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Link Posted: 4/10/2009 10:19:04 AM EDT
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http://www.navy.mil/moh/mpmurphy/images/image005.jpg









From left to right, Sonar Technician (Surface) 2nd Class Matthew G. Axelson; Senior Chief Information Systems Technician Daniel R. Healy, Quartermaster 2nd Class James Suh, Hospital Corpsman 2nd Class Marcus Luttrell, Machinist’s Mate 2nd Class Eric S. Patton, and Lt. Michael P. Murphy. With the exception of Luttrell, all were killed June 28, 2005, by enemy forces while supporting Operation Red Wing.

That's 3 Navy Crosses a Medal of Honor and 5 of our greates modern Heroes plus some Mighty fine facial fur


Can someone explain the Navy MOS's listed there?

If they are SEALS, isnt that their MOS? Why both? Is that their prior?

Im genuinely curious.


being SEAL is an additional MOS you still retain your primary!



SEALs and SWCCs now have their own rate.

I think it is like Special Warfare or something like that...
Link Posted: 4/10/2009 10:21:16 AM EDT
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Seems like from those pics the ultimate combo of badassness is beard, no sleeves on shirt, and backwards hat
Link Posted: 4/10/2009 10:27:23 AM EDT
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Spelling error.

You obviously typed "Special FECES cowboy".


Link Posted: 4/10/2009 10:31:23 AM EDT
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Man those pics are great. You know that facial hair has just got to piss off the Lifers in a Leg unit.
Link Posted: 4/10/2009 11:33:14 AM EDT
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Did anyone watch that special on the Military channel called  Americas Secret Soldiers? It aired a few years ago, but it had alot of bearded bad-asses in it.


Was that the one kind of like COPS for SF guys? It didn't last long.


No...it was a one time production. It wasnt real high speed but it should the daily lives of a SF unit while in Afghanistan.. One of the commanders was a guy from Texas that was a UT grad.

This is it. Sorry...its a myspace link but its the first one I could find when googled.


Was it the one where the Afghanis wouldn't let the SF guys into some compound, then of them says "I'm going to go gain entrance to this compound" and wonders off.  Next thing you see is all of them inside?


YEA!!!   Thats it.
Link Posted: 4/10/2009 3:37:28 PM EDT
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Great pics guys, that is what I was looking for.

We had a discussion at work about facial hair in the .mil.

I was explaining to them that some guys in the specwar outfits are allowed/required to grow a beard. Of course they didn't believe me.

Thanks again,


Gene
Link Posted: 4/10/2009 3:53:46 PM EDT
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I believe this guy's name is 'Bones". If so, Rest In Peace!

Link Posted: 4/10/2009 4:27:41 PM EDT
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I believe this guy's name is 'Bones". If so, Rest In Peace!



I hope not

Link Posted: 4/10/2009 4:53:25 PM EDT
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i thought the whole reason for the bears is to HIDE their identity b/c they get into some shitty shitt...   wtf are their names posted on that pic?  






I do not beleive the beards are to hide their identity, rather it helps them blend in as most muslim men have facial hair. I think that was a taliban rule that men had facial hair as a sign of faith like women wearing Burkas.


Sorry, but you ain't trying to "blend in" when you got Oakley sunglasses on, sleaves cut off your t-shirt, an M4 rifle, baseball cap, etc. that is obviously American.  It's for the coolness factor and maybe because of a beard being a status/cultural deal.

Now if they were decked out totally in native clothing and carrying AK's then I would agree that they're trying to blend in.

Link Posted: 4/10/2009 4:57:34 PM EDT
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http://www.navy.mil/moh/mpmurphy/images/image005.jpg







From left to right, Sonar Technician (Surface) 2nd Class Matthew G. Axelson; Senior Chief Information Systems Technician Daniel R. Healy, Quartermaster 2nd Class James Suh, Hospital Corpsman 2nd Class Marcus Luttrell, Machinist’s Mate 2nd Class Eric S. Patton, and Lt. Michael P. Murphy. With the exception of Luttrell, all were killed June 28, 2005, by enemy forces while supporting Operation Red Wing.

That's 3 Navy Crosses a Medal of Honor and 5 of our greates modern Heroes plus some Mighty fine facial fur


Can someone explain the Navy MOS's listed there?

If they are SEALS, isnt that their MOS? Why both? Is that their prior?

Im genuinely curious.


Guys from any rate can try out for SEALs.  SEAL was just a qualification, not a rating.  There is now a Special Operations (SO) and Special Warfare Boat Operator (SB) ratings and too.
Link Posted: 4/10/2009 5:02:31 PM EDT
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That looks like it would be hot to me.  OTOH it would protect you from sunburn and being sandblasted by high winds in the desert.
Link Posted: 4/10/2009 5:08:25 PM EDT
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This feller has a pretty smazzy beard also.

http://osdir.com/ml/recreation.humor.sidesplitters/2006-06/jpgxdmmyWDBnY.jpg


The grenade on his belt.
Link Posted: 4/10/2009 6:52:19 PM EDT
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Is a grenade that impressive in a combat zone?   I had a case of them about 6 claymores and several at4's with me in 91 does that make me a black ninja.
Link Posted: 4/10/2009 6:52:22 PM EDT
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Good job.



 
Link Posted: 4/10/2009 7:06:19 PM EDT
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Can someone explain the Navy MOS's listed there?





If they are SEALS, isnt that their MOS? Why both? Is that their prior?





Im genuinely curious.






being SEAL is an additional MOS you still retain your primary!











But why are they not listed as Navy Special Warfare Operator (SO)?  Why use the their prior? OPSEC?



The consolidation of SEALS to the SO rating, and SWCC to the SB rating was a while after Operation Redwing, I believe.
 
Link Posted: 4/10/2009 7:08:38 PM EDT
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I think Afghans have no respect for men without facial hair


I agree with them.
Link Posted: 4/10/2009 7:18:34 PM EDT
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I think Afghans have no respect for men without facial hair


I agree with them.



Didn't we have a "Show me your beard" thread a while back?
Link Posted: 4/10/2009 7:25:17 PM EDT
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i thought the whole reason for the bears is to HIDE their identity b/c they get into some shitty shitt...   wtf are their names posted on that pic?  






I do not beleive the beards are to hide their identity, rather it helps them blend in as most muslim men have facial hair. I think that was a taliban rule that men had facial hair as a sign of faith like women wearing Burkas.


And besides, the 3 ODA's who are named in that picture were KIA when a JDAM hit their location.
Link Posted: 4/10/2009 7:27:16 PM EDT
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I think Afghans have no respect for men without facial hair


I agree with them.



Didn't we have a "Show me your beard" thread a while back?


I dont remember.

Link Posted: 4/10/2009 7:28:54 PM EDT
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i thought the whole reason for the bears is to HIDE their identity b/c they get into some shitty shitt...   wtf are their names posted on that pic?  






I do not beleive the beards are to hide their identity, rather it helps them blend in as most muslim men have facial hair. I think that was a taliban rule that men had facial hair as a sign of faith like women wearing Burkas.


Sorry, but you ain't trying to "blend in" when you got Oakley sunglasses on, sleaves cut off your t-shirt, an M4 rifle, baseball cap, etc. that is obviously American.  It's for the coolness factor and maybe because of a beard being a status/cultural deal.

Now if they were decked out totally in native clothing and carrying AK's then I would agree that they're trying to blend in.



It looks like he's pulling security for that helicopter at the moment.  

He can change his uniform, take off his hat, swap rifles and ditch the glasses when it's time to blend, but it's a lot harder to grow a beard on the spot.  
Link Posted: 4/10/2009 7:33:18 PM EDT
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Nice pics, I am grateful for their service to our country.
Link Posted: 4/10/2009 7:41:27 PM EDT
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Nice pics, I am grateful for their service to our country.


And reminding the world that we aren't a nation of clean shaven slackjawed women.
Link Posted: 4/10/2009 7:45:00 PM EDT
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Thats my wifes uncle

He retired 3 years ago after doing 28 years as a Green Beret.

I emailed him this picture last summer.

Swears its not him but wanted to know where I found this picture at
Link Posted: 4/10/2009 8:00:36 PM EDT
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Thats my wifes uncle



He retired 3 years ago after doing 28 years as a Green Beret.



I emailed him this picture last summer.



Swears its not him but wanted to know where I found this picture at


That would not be your wife's uncle if he was US Army Special Forces.



That guy is Navy DEVGRU and was wounded in the assassination attempt against Karzai. His shirt is tied around his head from a wound he sustained.



Not a "Green Beret".

Link Posted: 4/10/2009 8:05:31 PM EDT
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being SEAL is an additional MOS you still retain your primary!



So if you are a Ship's Cook and become a SEAL... you can honestly call yourself a Combat Chef?


Hey, it worked for Steven Seagal... LOL

Link Posted: 4/10/2009 8:06:11 PM EDT
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for bein bad ass'age he aint doin a whole lot on the preecher



that's his 993rd rep



nah, that's how he sleeps...

Link Posted: 4/10/2009 8:11:05 PM EDT
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Thats my wifes uncle

He retired 3 years ago after doing 28 years as a Green Beret.

I emailed him this picture last summer.

Swears its not him but wanted to know where I found this picture at

That would not be your wife's uncle if he was US Army Special Forces.

That guy is Navy DEVGRU and was wounded in the assassination attempt against Karzai. His shirt is tied around his head from a wound he sustained.

Not a "Green Beret".


No, Im sure that's him

Do you have article about the picture.

I know he did at least 2 deployments to Afghanistan
Link Posted: 4/10/2009 8:11:17 PM EDT
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Thats my wifes uncle

He retired 3 years ago after doing 28 years as a Green Beret.

I emailed him this picture last summer.

Swears its not him but wanted to know where I found this picture at

That would not be your wife's uncle if he was US Army Special Forces.

That guy is Navy DEVGRU and was wounded in the assassination attempt against Karzai. His shirt is tied around his head from a wound he sustained.

Not a "Green Beret".


You are correct, sir.
Link Posted: 4/10/2009 8:12:39 PM EDT
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Thats my wifes uncle

He retired 3 years ago after doing 28 years as a Green Beret.

I emailed him this picture last summer.

Swears its not him but wanted to know where I found this picture at

That would not be your wife's uncle if he was US Army Special Forces.

That guy is Navy DEVGRU and was wounded in the assassination attempt against Karzai. His shirt is tied around his head from a wound he sustained.

Not a "Green Beret".


No, Im sure that's him

Do you have article about the picture.

I know he did at least 2 deployments to Afghanistan


Look at the pistol.

Green berets dont get the leniency in that arena that other groups do.
Link Posted: 4/10/2009 8:16:48 PM EDT
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Look at the pistol.

Green berets dont get the leniency in that arena that other groups do.


Well that settles it then

Link Posted: 4/10/2009 8:18:27 PM EDT
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Look at the pistol.

Green berets dont get the leniency in that arena that other groups do.


Well that settles it then



Just sayin.....

I had a coworker who was a green beret or at least claimed to be one and said they were stuck with the m9. An older army guy confirmed it.

That is too sexy to be a shitty m9
Link Posted: 4/10/2009 8:21:59 PM EDT
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Is a grenade that impressive in a combat zone?   I had a case of them about 6 claymores and several at4's with me in 91 does that make me a black ninja.


No, but the fact that he is in plain clothes on a security detail, it is kind of bizarre/awesome.
Link Posted: 4/10/2009 8:22:02 PM EDT
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Look at the pistol.

Green berets dont get the leniency in that arena that other groups do.


Well that settles it then



Just sayin.....

I had a coworker who was a green beret or at least claimed to be one and said they were stuck with the m9. An older army guy confirmed it.

That is too sexy to be a shitty m9



Ive know the guy for going on 9 years. Drank countless beers with him.
Went down to Fayetteville, NC in january to visit him.
I'm pretty sure thats him


Link Posted: 4/10/2009 8:23:33 PM EDT
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Thats my wifes uncle



He retired 3 years ago after doing 28 years as a Green Beret.



I emailed him this picture last summer.



Swears its not him but wanted to know where I found this picture at


That would not be your wife's uncle if he was US Army Special Forces.



That guy is Navy DEVGRU and was wounded in the assassination attempt against Karzai. His shirt is tied around his head from a wound he sustained.



Not a "Green Beret".





No, Im sure that's him



Do you have article about the picture.



I know he did at least 2 deployments to Afghanistan



Google "DEVGRU Karzai Assassination Attempt", there are plenty of articles.



Navy, not Army.

Link Posted: 4/10/2009 8:24:14 PM EDT
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Look at the pistol.

Green berets dont get the leniency in that arena that other groups do.


Well that settles it then



Looks like a SIG P226 to me.
Link Posted: 4/10/2009 8:24:47 PM EDT
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Thats my wifes uncle



He retired 3 years ago after doing 28 years as a Green Beret.



I emailed him this picture last summer.



Swears its not him but wanted to know where I found this picture at


That would not be your wife's uncle if he was US Army Special Forces.



That guy is Navy DEVGRU and was wounded in the assassination attempt against Karzai. His shirt is tied around his head from a wound he sustained.



Not a "Green Beret".





You are correct, sir.



That's "ma'am"  


Link Posted: 4/10/2009 8:24:53 PM EDT
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I LOL'd HARD at this
Link Posted: 4/10/2009 8:26:12 PM EDT
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Look at the pistol.

Green berets dont get the leniency in that arena that other groups do.


Well that settles it then



Looks like a SIG P226 to me.


Me too.

Ive got a couple of them and three of their sexy slimmer sister the p220.
Link Posted: 4/10/2009 8:27:10 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/10/2009 8:30:16 PM EDT
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the south will rise again

Link Posted: 4/10/2009 8:34:55 PM EDT
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Nice pics, I am grateful for their service to our country.


And reminding the world that we aren't a nation of clean shaven slackjawed women.


Fuckin A. There's just not enough love for those of us with big ass beards these days.....
Link Posted: 4/10/2009 8:36:26 PM EDT
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Say what you want, but Cowboy is one badass muthafucka
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Maybe the wife's uncle is a poser?


Ah, No

I could post pictures of him in uniform but I won't

I give its not him
Link Posted: 4/10/2009 8:38:18 PM EDT
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Here's a badass with a beard:

Link









Link Posted: 4/10/2009 8:39:45 PM EDT
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Look at the pistol.

Green berets dont get the leniency in that arena that other groups do.


Well that settles it then



Just sayin.....

I had a coworker who was a green beret or at least claimed to be one and said they were stuck with the m9. An older army guy confirmed it.

That is too sexy to be a shitty m9


Some of them carry 1911's as well.



Link Posted: 4/10/2009 8:40:36 PM EDT
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Thats my wifes uncle

He retired 3 years ago after doing 28 years as a Green Beret.

I emailed him this picture last summer.

Swears its not him but wanted to know where I found this picture at


Looks like the grenade is being carried in a badge holder. I thought Vice Cop the first time I saw that.

Link Posted: 4/10/2009 8:43:20 PM EDT
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Thats my wifes uncle

He retired 3 years ago after doing 28 years as a Green Beret.

I emailed him this picture last summer.

Swears its not him but wanted to know where I found this picture at


Looks like the grenade is being carried in a badge holder. I thought Vice Cop the first time I saw that.



You know how a vice cop might hold up his badge to ID himself as he asks someone to get out of a car...

That dude just holds up the hand grenade and says "get out of the fuckin' car".



Link Posted: 4/10/2009 8:44:07 PM EDT
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Look at the pistol.

Green berets dont get the leniency in that arena that other groups do.


Well that settles it then



Just sayin.....

I had a coworker who was a green beret or at least claimed to be one and said they were stuck with the m9. An older army guy confirmed it.

That is too sexy to be a shitty m9


Some of them carry 1911's as well.





ME too!

And i have a beard......i think im starting to make a connection.......
Link Posted: 4/10/2009 9:11:27 PM EDT
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Thats my wifes uncle

He retired 3 years ago after doing 28 years as a Green Beret.

I emailed him this picture last summer.

Swears its not him but wanted to know where I found this picture at

That would not be your wife's uncle if he was US Army Special Forces.

That guy is Navy DEVGRU and was wounded in the assassination attempt against Karzai. His shirt is tied around his head from a wound he sustained.

Not a "Green Beret".


No, Im sure that's him

Do you have article about the picture.

I know he did at least 2 deployments to Afghanistan


Look at the pistol.

Green berets dont get the leniency in that arena that other groups do.


You're pretty wrong on that.  U.S. Army Special Forces probably have THE most liberal policy on sidearms.  "Green Berets"  routinely carry the tried and true M-9, however, Sig M-11's, Glock 17/19's. stock/custom M-1911's, various H&K's and others are carried by certain A-teams.  The S.F. weapons sergeant MOS  will probably have more trigger time on handguns then most all other U.S. special operations units.
Pete
Link Posted: 4/10/2009 9:18:28 PM EDT
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Thats my wifes uncle

He retired 3 years ago after doing 28 years as a Green Beret.

I emailed him this picture last summer.

Swears its not him but wanted to know where I found this picture at

That would not be your wife's uncle if he was US Army Special Forces.

That guy is Navy DEVGRU and was wounded in the assassination attempt against Karzai. His shirt is tied around his head from a wound he sustained.

Not a "Green Beret".


No, Im sure that's him

Do you have article about the picture.

I know he did at least 2 deployments to Afghanistan


Look at the pistol.

Green berets dont get the leniency in that arena that other groups do.


You're pretty wrong on that.  U.S. Army Special Forces probably have THE most liberal policy on sidearms.  "Green Berets"  routinely carry the tried and true M-9, however, Sig M-11's, Glock 17/19's. stock/custom M-1911's, various H&K's and others are carried by certain A-teams.  The S.F. weapons sergeant MOS  will probably have more trigger time on handguns then most all other U.S. special operations units.
Pete


Not an M-11
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