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How have you resisted the urge to squeeze the hell out of it to see what comes out? I would have done that along time ago. There's probably some larva in there eating away. View Quote Maybe Navydoc or someone can weigh in, but I'm pretty sure you're really not supposed to squeeze MRSA. Like you'll encourage the infection to go deeper or spread? Just in case it is MRSA or something like it, not saying it is. |
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As an aside: the MD at the urgent care suggested I keep it uncovered. I decided today that I'll put a band-aid over it while out in public, to avoid odd glances and awkward questions.
Anyway, I'm off to pop an antibiotic and slather some ointment on it, and then head to bed. Hopefully I'll still have my leg in the morning. |
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Why in the blue fuck are you still taking pics and talking about this shit on a gun board??? You've been fucking with this thing for over a week now and growing and JUST NOW you are talking about the doc? GO! NOW! Dont answer this post or any other post until you have a doctor's note to come back here. FUCK MAN!! THIS IS YOUR LIFE AND YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT THAT SHIT IS! HOPEFULLY it is nothing but if it isn't getting smaller, I'd worry... SEE YA! Talk to you later with good news RIGHT? RIGHT??? Take a deep breath. He's been to a doc-in-the-box. What they've given him isn't clearing it up, but he still has his leg. (so far) Another trip might be in the offing. Let's all just calm down, and start calling "dibs", ok? http://i62.tinypic.com/igywyd.jpg http://i61.tinypic.com/28tvz8z.jpg Surprising that they sewed it back up if it was an infection. I suppose. I had a surgical site that wouldn't heal because they used glue when stitches were necessary, anyway, doc wouldn't sew it up to avoid trapping possible infection. |
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Fuck calling a dermatologist ..... who knows when they will have an opening for a new patient. Hospital Emergency Room ...... let them call in a dermatologist if needed. I'll never understand people who sit at home with an undiagnosed medical condition trying to get a diagnosis from an internet forum. I see it often on motorcycle, photography, and even welding sites. . View Quote LOL. There are no derm emergencies. Know how many times I've actually seen a derm consult done in the ER? Maybe twice in 20 years. It's an outpatient follow-up no matter how you slice it... And that is not MRSA. MRSA hurts... And it hurts like a motherf*cker (there are actually virulence factors in CA-MRSA that increase the amount of pain the infection causes). I'm betting on some kind of bug-bite. It could actually be a bonafide spider bite, with a little necrosis. Most of those will granulate just fine, and heal up. No grafts to plastic surgery required in the OVERWHELMING majority of cases. OP should neither sweat it, nor worry unnecessarily. And just for everybody's edification, there ARE skin cancers that grow that rapidly. Google "keratoacanthoma" if you want to see an example. Those are typically a "volcano lesion," and I would not put the OP's lesion in the same category... KA's are much more heaped-up around the edges, with a central debris plug. |
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LOL. There are no derm emergencies. Know how many times I've actually seen a derm consult done in the ER? Maybe twice in 20 years. It's an outpatient follow-up no matter how you slice it... And that is not MRSA. MRSA hurts... And it hurts like a motherf*cker (there are actually virulence factors in CA-MRSA that increase the amount of pain the infection causes). I'm betting on some kind of bug-bite. It could actually be a bonafide spider bite, with a little necrosis. Most of those will granulate just fine, and heal up. No grafts to plastic surgery required in the OVERWHELMING majority of cases. OP should neither sweat it, nor worry unnecessarily. And just for everybody's edification, there ARE skin cancers that grow that rapidly. Google "keratoacanthoma" if you want to see an example. Those are typically a "volcano lesion," and I would not put the OP's lesion in the same category... KA's are much more heaped-up around the edges, with a central debris plug. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Fuck calling a dermatologist ..... who knows when they will have an opening for a new patient. Hospital Emergency Room ...... let them call in a dermatologist if needed. I'll never understand people who sit at home with an undiagnosed medical condition trying to get a diagnosis from an internet forum. I see it often on motorcycle, photography, and even welding sites. . LOL. There are no derm emergencies. Know how many times I've actually seen a derm consult done in the ER? Maybe twice in 20 years. It's an outpatient follow-up no matter how you slice it... And that is not MRSA. MRSA hurts... And it hurts like a motherf*cker (there are actually virulence factors in CA-MRSA that increase the amount of pain the infection causes). I'm betting on some kind of bug-bite. It could actually be a bonafide spider bite, with a little necrosis. Most of those will granulate just fine, and heal up. No grafts to plastic surgery required in the OVERWHELMING majority of cases. OP should neither sweat it, nor worry unnecessarily. And just for everybody's edification, there ARE skin cancers that grow that rapidly. Google "keratoacanthoma" if you want to see an example. Those are typically a "volcano lesion," and I would not put the OP's lesion in the same category... KA's are much more heaped-up around the edges, with a central debris plug. Thank you for your input, sir. And good gracious, keratoacanthoma looks terrifying. With zero medical knowledge whatsoever, after looking over pictures of that and comparing them to my leg, I'm going to agree with you. The photos I'm seeing online are much more volcano-ish…if that's a word. |
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Thank you for your input, sir. And good gracious, keratoacanthoma looks terrifying. With zero medical knowledge whatsoever, after looking over pictures of that and comparing them to my leg, I'm going to agree with you. The photos I'm seeing online are much more volcano-ish…if that's a word. View Quote Yes... and they grow quickly, sometimes within a week or two. They're considered a squamous cell carcinoma/cancer, and are aggressively excised. I've seen one in the ER (about five years ago), and I wasn't sure what it was at first, so I texted the pic of it to a derm buddy of mine. The immediate reply was "umm... that's a squamous cell cancer, and that needs to come off. Send her directly to my office." I did exactly that. And there was much rejoicing. |
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View Quote Not to hijack too much, but if someone were slowly growing a small, flat angioma, could it be something other than a harmless angioma? Is there anything that looks like one but is actually a horrible, super deadly cancer that a paranoid hypochondriac should know about? |
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Spider bite. The spider was trying to digest you but likely will fall far short.
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OP, ditto. Get to the docs ASAP. Google "Melanoma Images" and you'll see why. People die from this. Really. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'd go see a dermatologist NOW. That could be a melanoma. Seriously. OP, ditto. Get to the docs ASAP. Google "Melanoma Images" and you'll see why. People die from this. Really. THIS! If anyone here ever finds a "weird mole", especially that turns black, go to the best dermatologist you can find, and pay them to biopsy it. Don't screw around with skin cancer. |
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Not to hijack too much, but if someone were slowly growing a small, flat angioma, could it be something other than a harmless angioma? Is there anything that looks like one but is actually a horrible, super deadly cancer that a paranoid hypochondriac should know about? Well, it COULD be anything. Is it likely to be? No. Not by a long shot. |
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i have the same thing going on right now myself.
I had contracted MRSA about 8 years ago, and had a half dozen of those same sores on my legs. a few of them were pretty large, and after they cleared up with anti-biotics, there was scar tissue left. well, about 2 weeks ago, i had one of the areas of scar tissue "puss up" and open up, to look exactly like it did years ago. Went to the doctor, they said it was not MRSA, but treated it with an anti-biotic. They did recommend keeping it covered and moist at all times. I am still waiting for it to heal. It has not gotten worse, just hasn't gone away. if i don't see an improvement by this week, i'm going back to the doctor again. |
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Quoted: LOL. There are no derm emergencies. Know how many times I've actually seen a derm consult done in the ER? Maybe twice in 20 years. It's an outpatient follow-up no matter how you slice it... And that is not MRSA. MRSA hurts... And it hurts like a motherf*cker (there are actually virulence factors in CA-MRSA that increase the amount of pain the infection causes). I'm betting on some kind of bug-bite. It could actually be a bonafide spider bite, with a little necrosis. Most of those will granulate just fine, and heal up. No grafts to plastic surgery required in the OVERWHELMING majority of cases. OP should neither sweat it, nor worry unnecessarily. And just for everybody's edification, there ARE skin cancers that grow that rapidly. Google "keratoacanthoma" if you want to see an example. Those are typically a "volcano lesion," and I would not put the OP's lesion in the same category... KA's are much more heaped-up around the edges, with a central debris plug. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Fuck calling a dermatologist ..... who knows when they will have an opening for a new patient. Hospital Emergency Room ...... let them call in a dermatologist if needed. I'll never understand people who sit at home with an undiagnosed medical condition trying to get a diagnosis from an internet forum. I see it often on motorcycle, photography, and even welding sites. . LOL. There are no derm emergencies. Know how many times I've actually seen a derm consult done in the ER? Maybe twice in 20 years. It's an outpatient follow-up no matter how you slice it... And that is not MRSA. MRSA hurts... And it hurts like a motherf*cker (there are actually virulence factors in CA-MRSA that increase the amount of pain the infection causes). I'm betting on some kind of bug-bite. It could actually be a bonafide spider bite, with a little necrosis. Most of those will granulate just fine, and heal up. No grafts to plastic surgery required in the OVERWHELMING majority of cases. OP should neither sweat it, nor worry unnecessarily. And just for everybody's edification, there ARE skin cancers that grow that rapidly. Google "keratoacanthoma" if you want to see an example. Those are typically a "volcano lesion," and I would not put the OP's lesion in the same category... KA's are much more heaped-up around the edges, with a central debris plug. looks like SOMEBODY stayed at a Holiday Inn last night. Doc, I am too much of a hypochondriac always worrying about melanomas... I DID NOT need to see that keratoacanthoma |
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necorotizing fasciitis? except that MRSA usually involves pain, so the lack thereof kinda indicates venom, could be a recluse, or hobo spider.
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Quoted: 2 updates: 1: After speaking with a few docs on here and on another forum, I've decided to not go to a dermatologist unless it continues to expand despite good wound care. The consensus from multiple docs so far is that it is not MRSA and likely just some kind of bug bite that will eventually heal. The idea of a foreign object like a thorn being embedded in my skin has also been mentioned several times as well…but at this point there's likely no way we'll ever know. 2: After wearing a band-aid over it for several hours yesterday evening, it is starting to look better. Just a small change, nothing huge. It looks less "angry" if that makes any sense. I was recommended to keep it moist and covered with the mupriocin ointment, to give the epithelial cells trying to come in from the sides to heal the wound a good environment in which to prosper. I've got it covered with a band-aid right now and will take a look at it later tonight. Honestly the worst part so far: pulling my leg hair while taking the band-aid off. I was under the impression that necrotizing fasciitis spreads rapidly in a matter of hours, whereas this has been roughly 2 weeks +/- a few days. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: 2 updates: 1: After speaking with a few docs on here and on another forum, I've decided to not go to a dermatologist unless it continues to expand despite good wound care. The consensus from multiple docs so far is that it is not MRSA and likely just some kind of bug bite that will eventually heal. The idea of a foreign object like a thorn being embedded in my skin has also been mentioned several times as well…but at this point there's likely no way we'll ever know. 2: After wearing a band-aid over it for several hours yesterday evening, it is starting to look better. Just a small change, nothing huge. It looks less "angry" if that makes any sense. I was recommended to keep it moist and covered with the mupriocin ointment, to give the epithelial cells trying to come in from the sides to heal the wound a good environment in which to prosper. I've got it covered with a band-aid right now and will take a look at it later tonight. Honestly the worst part so far: pulling my leg hair while taking the band-aid off. Quoted: necorotizing fasciitis? except that MRSA usually involves pain, so the lack thereof kinda indicates venom, could be a recluse, or hobo spider. I was under the impression that necrotizing fasciitis spreads rapidly in a matter of hours, whereas this has been roughly 2 weeks +/- a few days. |
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ok, with continued refusal to see a doc, I call dibs on SCUBA gear.
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OP, have you had a discussion with your doctor yet about having your leg replaced with some kind of bionic mechanical version when they have to amputate it? It could be kind of awesome being able to do a single-leg 500lb. leg press! The only drawback is that you may end up running in circles from then on..
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ok, with continued refusal to see a doc, I call dibs on SCUBA gear. Dibs on NFA and any Toyota vehicles. Also glocks, 9mm/5.56 ammo. And checking/savings/gold/silver/platinum. Damn, you lawyers are thorough! Dibs on what's left--the few pennies that fell behind the couch and an old Burger King coupon that may be only a year or so expired. And the dust bunnies. |
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Brown recluse spider bite. Did it have a small pimple like bump in the center at first. For your sake I hopes it's not, they can get prety nasty.
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ok, with continued refusal to see a doc, I call dibs on SCUBA gear. Dibs on NFA and any Toyota vehicles. Also glocks, 9mm/5.56 ammo. And checking/savings/gold/silver/platinum. Damn, you lawyers are thorough! Dibs on what's left--the few pennies that fell behind the couch and an old Burger King coupon that may be only a year or so expired. And the dust bunnies. |
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ok, with continued refusal to see a doc, I call dibs on SCUBA gear. Dibs on NFA and any Toyota vehicles. Also glocks, 9mm/5.56 ammo. And checking/savings/gold/silver/platinum. I've got a 2006 Corolla with 160k miles on it. |
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I see a lot of comments about honey being used in a situation like this to aid the skin in healing. Any truth to that?
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Amish Black Drawing Salve Recipe:
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Photo from this morning. As always -- right-click "view image" to see higher resolution, if you're really that interested. Area appears much less swollen today. Slightly interesting color, there in the middle. Greenish. Not sure if that's some sort of color issue from the camera or the actual color of the lesion. I will point out that it looks much larger in this photo than in the photo from 2 days ago, due to how close I took this photo, plus the difference in camera (D40 with 35mm f/1.8 for the photo 2 days ago, whereas this one was with my iPotato). This appears to be an illusion from the camera differences rather than the lesion being physically larger. http://i.imgur.com/sV1WbwK.jpg View Quote Dude, see a derm. |
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Photo from this morning. As always -- right-click "view image" to see higher resolution, if you're really that interested. Area appears much less swollen today. Slightly interesting color, there in the middle. Greenish. Not sure if that's some sort of color issue from the camera or the actual color of the lesion. I will point out that it looks much larger in this photo than in the photo from 2 days ago, due to how close I took this photo, plus the difference in camera (D40 with 35mm f/1.8 for the photo 2 days ago, whereas this one was with my iPotato). This appears to be an illusion from the camera differences rather than the lesion being physically larger. http://i.imgur.com/sV1WbwK.jpg Dude, see a derm. Ah come'on, it isn't that bad. …right? |
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It looks like it is scabbing over / drying out. You'll be picking at it in a few days. Looks like a spider bite to me. I have had a few that looked like that before.
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Have you ever injured that leg before? I broke my leg and ever since then, my circulation has been shitty and my leg will swell. Several years ago, I got a couple of sores that looked just like yours. Went to the dermatologist, and she said it was an ulcer caused by the collection of fluid. The remedy was to wear a compression stocking for the rest of my life to prevent the leg from swelling.
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Have you ever injured that leg before? I broke my leg and ever since then, my circulation has been shitty and my leg will swell. Several years ago, I got a couple of sores that looked just like yours. Went to the dermatologist, and she said it was an ulcer caused by the collection of fluid. The remedy was to wear a compression stocking for the rest of my life to prevent the leg from swelling. Just my $0.02 View Quote Nope -- no injuries. At least nothing that would qualify (mosquito bites, various scuffed knees when I was a kid -- the usual and expected stuff for your average person). |
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In maggot therapy, a number of small maggots are introduced to a wound in order to consume necrotic tissue, and do so far more precisely than is possible in a normal surgical operation. Larvae of the green bottle fly are used, which primarily feed on the necrotic (dead) tissue of the living host without attacking living tissue. Maggots can debride a wound in a day or two. The maggots derive nutrients through a process known as "extracorporeal digestion" by secreting a broad spectrum of proteolytic enzymes that liquefy necrotic tissue, and absorb the semi-liquid result within a few days. In an optimum wound environment maggots molt twice, increasing in length from 1–2 mm to 8–10 mm, and in girth, within a period of 3–4 days by ingesting necrotic tissue, leaving a clean wound free of necrotic tissue when they are removed. When they stay longer or too many are used, healthy tissue is removed as well.
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