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Link Posted: 8/24/2016 10:39:05 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/24/2016 10:42:41 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/24/2016 11:07:27 AM EDT
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Hammr and I were talking about this the other night, and either Planet Destiny or Crucible Radio borough this up and it makes sense - a lot of the Destiny PVP community on XBox are former sweaty ass competitive Halo players as well. Skill based matchmaking, combined with a player base that is inherently very competitive, can make for some miserable trips through the crucible.

I'm told that the matchmaking on PS4 is much more lax and forgiving overall.
 
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I played on xbone last year and have been on ps4 for this year.  In my matchmaking experiences it's not been that crazy different, but i'm just a medicore crucible guy.  Some games I come in and wreck shop, others I come in and feel like a newb.

For reference, it took me about the same time to finish my thorn and bad jujuj bounties on both systems, maybe one match difference.
Link Posted: 8/24/2016 11:29:39 AM EDT
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  I really want to focus on my 3v3 game next. I've done everything else basically there is to do in crucible. I really like elimination, I'm just terrible at it. The pacing of the game itself is so different than 6v6.
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Hammer you think that's SBMM working? Getting matched with better and better players?

I did the elimination portion of Mountaintop last night. Good lord I will never play it or Trials again. What a painful experience...

  I really want to focus on my 3v3 game next. I've done everything else basically there is to do in crucible. I really like elimination, I'm just terrible at it. The pacing of the game itself is so different than 6v6.

Yeah 3v3 is definitely a different animal from 6v6.

I stay away from Trials when IB is going on. I find the normal population will mostly be playing IB and the frequency of running into the try-hards in Trials increases.
Link Posted: 8/24/2016 2:33:09 PM EDT
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I look at it like this. Until private matches get here you won't have true fun because atleast half of the other team is always trying their hardest. I plan on having a ton of fun in private matches. Ban certain weapon types do side arms only, the skies the limit.
Link Posted: 8/25/2016 9:53:49 PM EDT
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Thoughts on the Suros DIS-47? I have one with near max stability and hidden hand that seems like it should be a god roll.  Took it into a control game on bannerfall and got destroyed. I don't think I had a single primary kill. I couldn't land shots for anything, and when I did I just got outgunned.
Link Posted: 8/25/2016 10:46:17 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/26/2016 7:14:21 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/26/2016 9:00:34 AM EDT
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In the tower in front of the big door by the Speaker.

Bellicose - could be fun for airborne nightfalls or heroics. Kinda blah otherwise.


Gravititon - do you like shadestep?  Then buy this. Do you not like shadestep?  Then you don't need it. It does a thing - how important that thing is to you, only you can decide.


Manacles - good stuff. Set your voidwalker up to emphasize energy drain, and your basically get catapult for free. You will never be without a grenade.


Universal Remote - oh boy. I hate dying to this thing in the crucible with a passion. That said, it's not the easiest weapon in the world to use. Strictly a PVP buy, and not a very good one at that.


Legacy chest, and I think just about all of the chest armors are in year two now.
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Link Posted: 8/26/2016 10:49:56 AM EDT
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In the tower in front of the big door by the Speaker.

Bellicose - could be fun for airborne nightfalls or heroics. Kinda blah otherwise.


Gravititon - do you like shadestep?  Then buy this. Do you not like shadestep?  Then you don't need it. It does a thing - how important that thing is to you, only you can decide.


Manacles - good stuff. Set your voidwalker up to emphasize energy drain, and your basically get catapult for free. You will never be without a grenade.


Universal Remote - oh boy. I hate dying to this thing in the crucible with a passion. That said, it's not the easiest weapon in the world to use. Strictly a PVP buy, and not a very good one at that.


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Bellicose is kinda crap but when there is an airborne modifier it is a beast. Crit hits with sleeper simulant and this helm are around the 94k mark and that's without a burn modifier.
Link Posted: 8/26/2016 10:56:53 AM EDT
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It's the 52/37 archetype scout, the very fast firing, low impact type, like Inward Lamp, NL Shadow 701X, B-Line Trauma, Deadshot Luna, etc.

The thing is, IME, most of the scouts of that archetype have very low aim assist regardless of the optics used.  I have a full auto Inward Lamp, it's basically the same thing as the DIS-47, and the sights don't feel as "sticky" as other weapons, like they don't drift and gravitate towards the target.  Especially if you've been using something like Mida Multitool for a while, which basically points itself at the target's head for you, going to a 52/37 scout can feel a little off for the first few games.  

It's a pretty good weapon though.  I think it crits for 45 and body shots for low 30s in non-light enabled crucible.  It's just overshadowed because most everyone who uses a scout rifle in PVP uses Mida, and Mida has a ton of aim assist which makes it feel like easy mode.
 
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Thoughts on the Suros DIS-47? I have one with near max stability and hidden hand that seems like it should be a god roll.  Took it into a control game on bannerfall and got destroyed. I don't think I had a single primary kill. I couldn't land shots for anything, and when I did I just got outgunned.

It's the 52/37 archetype scout, the very fast firing, low impact type, like Inward Lamp, NL Shadow 701X, B-Line Trauma, Deadshot Luna, etc.

The thing is, IME, most of the scouts of that archetype have very low aim assist regardless of the optics used.  I have a full auto Inward Lamp, it's basically the same thing as the DIS-47, and the sights don't feel as "sticky" as other weapons, like they don't drift and gravitate towards the target.  Especially if you've been using something like Mida Multitool for a while, which basically points itself at the target's head for you, going to a 52/37 scout can feel a little off for the first few games.  

It's a pretty good weapon though.  I think it crits for 45 and body shots for low 30s in non-light enabled crucible.  It's just overshadowed because most everyone who uses a scout rifle in PVP uses Mida, and Mida has a ton of aim assist which makes it feel like easy mode.
 

I'll have to mess around in patrols or something to get a feel for the aim assist with hidden hand vs. a MIDA.  Maybe that's why I had such a hard time with it.  Seems like the time to kill should be great with that high rate of fire, but because I missed so many shots I was having a really bad time.

Also, yay Nothing Manacles!
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 10:16:51 AM EDT
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Good nightfall this week. If there is anyone who needs to do a nightfall on the dreadnaught for the calcified fragment this is a good one to do.

Sunless cell with chaff, small arms, ironclad and exposure.

The weekly heroic is void burn, specialist and exposure.
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 6:51:38 PM EDT
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Good nightfall this week. If there is anyone who needs to do a nightfall on the dreadnaught for the calcified fragment this is a good one to do.



Sunless cell with chaff, small arms, ironclad and exposure.



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I'd like to run Touch of Malice with some BOL bubble Titans.
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 10:39:03 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/31/2016 10:16:42 AM EDT
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HM raid through LFG has been the worse the past couple of weeks. Last night I joined a group....all were 330+ and only two of us had completed the raid before. Gaze grabber taking it from back left instead of top of box, titan not knowing about setting bubble up in tunnel, people running outside of the aura at totems and it not transferring, ect.

I'm assuming the others got their ll through challenge of elders and iron banner. We did end up making it to daughters before getting off for the night, and surprisingly did the challenge, but it took us almost 3 hours to get there. I know with the group we've ran through here, we couple probably be close to having three full runs in during that time.

I think I might steer clear of lfg for the next three weeks, and just run nm with some of my friends that recently picked the game back up, or at least people I've ran the raid with before. I can only assume people are trying to finish MOT and are just not being honest on their lfg posts.
Link Posted: 8/31/2016 10:52:11 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/31/2016 11:04:13 AM EDT
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I'm not to worried about it, I was just running through for some infusion fodder, but at this point everything I use or wear is pretty much as high as it's going to get, minus a ll or 2. Here lately I've just been farming heroic strikes. I'm still trying to get the grasp to drop, but no dice so far.

I thought about deleting a character so I could go back through and pick up the first rifle and throw it in the vault for next dlc, but don't know what I would even delete. Warlock more than likely, as I could never delete my hunter (1st character) and titan because of bubble.
Link Posted: 8/31/2016 11:12:44 AM EDT
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I did 1 raid with a group from the100.  It took 3-4 hours to get up to Oryx in normal mode.  Everyone claimed they had done the raid before except for me, but I knew more about the encounters from watching a couple youtube vids than most of the team so I'm skeptical.  The only other time I've done KF was with an arfcom group.  Full hard mode clear in less than 2 hours IIRC, and I really drug it out taking forever to get through the 2nd jumping puzzle.  I think the100 is great for finding groups for 3-person PvE activities and IB (unless you're looking for a super sweaty try-hard team), but I'd rather not raid than wipe on the totems 20 times with randoms.
Link Posted: 8/31/2016 2:40:39 PM EDT
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Try wiping on totems 20 times with a mainly arfcom group.
Link Posted: 8/31/2016 4:08:54 PM EDT
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that was miserable.
I don't think I've played since.
Link Posted: 8/31/2016 5:21:19 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/31/2016 6:34:56 PM EDT
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Yeah, it made me kinda sad when you quit. That random that spike brought in was freaking terrible. I hadn't raided in months and I wasn't as bad as him.
Link Posted: 8/31/2016 8:56:25 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/31/2016 10:38:32 PM EDT
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Sorry guys, I know I keep saying that I'm hopping on and I don't.  Life has just been insane lately.    I get to play RoI for a week before I fly south for doc visits so that's going to suck.

I'll be trying to be on this weekend to rock stuff though.  No plans and I need to stay home to pack apartment stuff.
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 9:52:52 AM EDT
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I felt kinda shitty about it afterwards, but on the other hand if we couldn't open the fucking door to Warpriest, I wasn't optimistic about the rest of the raid.

The game itself was doing some weird stuff too.  The aura just disappearing on the left side at random was really starting to frustrate me.  I was about to start screaming why are people dying over there until I experienced it myself - the timers were fine, I was standing on the totem counting down, and with like 10 seconds left to spare the aura vanished.  I dunno if it was connection or lag or what.
 
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Yeah, it made me kinda sad when you quit. That random that spike brought in was freaking terrible. I hadn't raided in months and I wasn't as bad as him.

I felt kinda shitty about it afterwards, but on the other hand if we couldn't open the fucking door to Warpriest, I wasn't optimistic about the rest of the raid.

The game itself was doing some weird stuff too.  The aura just disappearing on the left side at random was really starting to frustrate me.  I was about to start screaming why are people dying over there until I experienced it myself - the timers were fine, I was standing on the totem counting down, and with like 10 seconds left to spare the aura vanished.  I dunno if it was connection or lag or what.
 


That room has been wonky lately. The other night a player was teleported from the left room to the right room, causing the aura to disappear. I wouldn't have believed it if someone told me, but I did witness it first hand.
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 10:16:11 AM EDT
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That room has been wonky lately. The other night a player was teleported from the left room to the right room, causing the aura to disappear. I wouldn't have believed it if someone told me, but I did witness it first hand.
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Yeah, it made me kinda sad when you quit. That random that spike brought in was freaking terrible. I hadn't raided in months and I wasn't as bad as him.

I felt kinda shitty about it afterwards, but on the other hand if we couldn't open the fucking door to Warpriest, I wasn't optimistic about the rest of the raid.

The game itself was doing some weird stuff too.  The aura just disappearing on the left side at random was really starting to frustrate me.  I was about to start screaming why are people dying over there until I experienced it myself - the timers were fine, I was standing on the totem counting down, and with like 10 seconds left to spare the aura vanished.  I dunno if it was connection or lag or what.
 


That room has been wonky lately. The other night a player was teleported from the left room to the right room, causing the aura to disappear. I wouldn't have believed it if someone told me, but I did witness it first hand.


That would really piss me off. I'm starting an extra long weekend in about 5 hours so I should be on some thins weekend. I'd be up to raid or just run strikes or whatever.
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 11:20:58 AM EDT
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I'll be down for just about anything. I know I'll be running strikes a bunch. Maybe some pvp until I get pissed off at that which lately only takes about 3 games. I gotta finish up the story stuff on my fresh Titan. Gonna try and get all the subclasses ranked up again. Mostly just prepping for rise in a couple weeks. Between exotics and legendary engrams I think I have a combined 40+ right now. The old exotic engrams should decode into higher light but the legendaries will only go into the current levels but it will rank up cryptarc quickly and get fresh drops from him.
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 11:39:50 AM EDT
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That would really piss me off. I'm starting an extra long weekend in about 5 hours so I should be on some thins weekend. I'd be up to raid or just run strikes or whatever.
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Yeah, it made me kinda sad when you quit. That random that spike brought in was freaking terrible. I hadn't raided in months and I wasn't as bad as him.

I felt kinda shitty about it afterwards, but on the other hand if we couldn't open the fucking door to Warpriest, I wasn't optimistic about the rest of the raid.

The game itself was doing some weird stuff too.  The aura just disappearing on the left side at random was really starting to frustrate me.  I was about to start screaming why are people dying over there until I experienced it myself - the timers were fine, I was standing on the totem counting down, and with like 10 seconds left to spare the aura vanished.  I dunno if it was connection or lag or what.
 


That room has been wonky lately. The other night a player was teleported from the left room to the right room, causing the aura to disappear. I wouldn't have believed it if someone told me, but I did witness it first hand.


That would really piss me off. I'm starting an extra long weekend in about 5 hours so I should be on some thins weekend. I'd be up to raid or just run strikes or whatever.


The past few times i've done that part of the raid, it's done some weird stuff with the aura.
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 12:14:27 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/1/2016 12:46:57 PM EDT
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I've been playing hard the last few weeks and took my warlock from a level 309 to 312 -not much reward for a lot of effort.

I don't have anyone to Raid with and I suck at jumping which tends to piss people off really fast.

Other than the RAID what's the best way to level up?
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 1:13:47 PM EDT
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I've been playing hard the last few weeks and took my warlock from a level 309 to 312 -not much reward for a lot of effort.



I don't have anyone to Raid with and I suck at jumping which tends to piss people off really fast.



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Vanguard and Crucible packages can rank you up and you can play solo. Challenge of Elders will drop a weapon and armor at 30K and 90K points respectively. I've gone from 319 to 327 the past few weeks with these activities. I could be higher but I'm more interested in marks than getting to 335 before ROI.
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 1:15:19 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/1/2016 2:04:58 PM EDT
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I've been playing hard the last few weeks and took my warlock from a level 309 to 312 -not much reward for a lot of effort.

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PvP, ranking up your vanguard and crucible rep and if you haven't joined a faction you should do so. All of these combined will have the ability to get you 330 light. You can do the prison of elders. Lvl 40 has matchmaking and if you can get 2 others you can run challenge of elders. That will be able to get you 335 gear. Do you have a specific time you get on?  I'm down to run some challenge of elders with you if you get on this weekend.
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 2:08:27 PM EDT
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Rep packages will get you stuff up to 330.  Challenge of the Elders and Trials are the only ways to get to 335 between now and RoI I think.

I should be on late Saturday night (after the UA/USC game) and a good bit on Sunday.  Grandparents keeping the kid this weekend.
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 2:22:10 PM EDT
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  PVP.  Crucible rank up packages gradually increase as you level up and will drop weapons and armor up to 330 light.


Trials and Iron Banner will drop items up to 335 light.


I did most of my leveling after the April update with crucible, TBH. I've only completed maybe three or four raids since.


Also consider in a few more weeks, it won't really matter anyways since our current light levels are gonna thrown out.
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I've been playing hard the last few weeks and took my warlock from a level 309 to 312 -not much reward for a lot of effort.

I don't have anyone to Raid with and I suck at jumping which tends to piss people off really fast.

Other than the RAID what's the best way to level up?

  PVP.  Crucible rank up packages gradually increase as you level up and will drop weapons and armor up to 330 light.


Trials and Iron Banner will drop items up to 335 light.


I did most of my leveling after the April update with crucible, TBH. I've only completed maybe three or four raids since.


Also consider in a few more weeks, it won't really matter anyways since our current light levels are gonna thrown out.



Thrown out or are they raising them higher?
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 2:23:33 PM EDT
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PvP, ranking up your vanguard and crucible rep and if you haven't joined a faction you should do so. All of these combined will have the ability to get you 330 light. You can do the prison of elders. Lvl 40 has matchmaking and if you can get 2 others you can run challenge of elders. That will be able to get you 335 gear. Do you have a specific time you get on?  I'm down to run some challenge of elders with you if you get on this weekend.
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I've been playing hard the last few weeks and took my warlock from a level 309 to 312 -not much reward for a lot of effort.

I don't have anyone to Raid with and I suck at jumping which tends to piss people off really fast.

Other than the RAID what's the best way to level up?


PvP, ranking up your vanguard and crucible rep and if you haven't joined a faction you should do so. All of these combined will have the ability to get you 330 light. You can do the prison of elders. Lvl 40 has matchmaking and if you can get 2 others you can run challenge of elders. That will be able to get you 335 gear. Do you have a specific time you get on?  I'm down to run some challenge of elders with you if you get on this weekend.


Wife likes to watch a movie so typically not until after 11pm or I like to get non early from 9 to around noon. All EST.
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 2:28:31 PM EDT
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I've been playing hard the last few weeks and took my warlock from a level 309 to 312 -not much reward for a lot of effort.

I don't have anyone to Raid with and I suck at jumping which tends to piss people off really fast.

Other than the RAID what's the best way to level up?

  PVP.  Crucible rank up packages gradually increase as you level up and will drop weapons and armor up to 330 light.


Trials and Iron Banner will drop items up to 335 light.


I did most of my leveling after the April update with crucible, TBH. I've only completed maybe three or four raids since.


Also consider in a few more weeks, it won't really matter anyways since our current light levels are gonna thrown out.



Thrown out or are they raising them higher?

When RoI drops max light will be 385.  When the hard mode raid is released it will be 400.
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 3:20:58 PM EDT
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Ok guys, don't let me down and bullshit me here, but is the game worth coming back to for RoI? I blew through all the taken king content within a couple weeks then didn't pick it up again since. I've logged a lot of hours in the game but got sick of it right after TTK. I keep seeing everywhere that they've made a lot of changes for the better, is this true or is it rabid fan boy talk?
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Wife likes to watch a movie so typically not until after 11pm or I like to get non early from 9 to around noon. All EST.
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I've been playing hard the last few weeks and took my warlock from a level 309 to 312 -not much reward for a lot of effort.

I don't have anyone to Raid with and I suck at jumping which tends to piss people off really fast.

Other than the RAID what's the best way to level up?


PvP, ranking up your vanguard and crucible rep and if you haven't joined a faction you should do so. All of these combined will have the ability to get you 330 light. You can do the prison of elders. Lvl 40 has matchmaking and if you can get 2 others you can run challenge of elders. That will be able to get you 335 gear. Do you have a specific time you get on?  I'm down to run some challenge of elders with you if you get on this weekend.


Wife likes to watch a movie so typically not until after 11pm or I like to get non early from 9 to around noon. All EST.


What's your GT?

My daughter started school this week so I'll be on in the mornings as long as I'm not working or have something else going on.


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Ok guys, don't let me down and bullshit me here, but is the game worth coming back to for RoI? I blew through all the taken king content within a couple weeks then didn't pick it up again since. I've logged a lot of hours in the game but got sick of it right after TTK. I keep seeing everywhere that they've made a lot of changes for the better, is this true or is it rabid fan boy talk?
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This is a smaller DLC than TTK. If you blew through that quickly I wouldn't expect RoI to hold you any longer as it is smaller in size. The April update dos help everything overall with 1:1 infusion and multiple ways of getting higher level gear.
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 4:44:29 PM EDT
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Also challenge of elders has really good modifiers this week
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  Only you can answer that. Destiny and its DLCs are kind of a love/hate thing.


I can say that with the April update, you can now make steady progression with loot drops, as opposed to being stuck at forever 319 light or whatever. That was a lot of my personal beef with the game.
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Ok guys, don't let me down and bullshit me here, but is the game worth coming back to for RoI? I blew through all the taken king content within a couple weeks then didn't pick it up again since. I've logged a lot of hours in the game but got sick of it right after TTK. I keep seeing everywhere that they've made a lot of changes for the better, is this true or is it rabid fan boy talk?

  Only you can answer that. Destiny and its DLCs are kind of a love/hate thing.


I can say that with the April update, you can now make steady progression with loot drops, as opposed to being stuck at forever 319 light or whatever. That was a lot of my personal beef with the game.

Sounds like I should probably check it out. It wasn't the length of the actual content that got to me, since I'm used to a lot of loot based shooters/aRPGs, but it was the progression. Only one way to get certain gear that was usually locked behind ToO or a raid, and it just seemed like everybody had the same 1 or 2 sets of armor running the same abilities doing the same stuff. If there are at least multiple paths to end game loot I can get on board with that.
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 7:17:28 PM EDT
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I would say hop on play a bit and check it out. A lot has changed with the April and June updates. There are basically 6 ways to earn end game material. Raid, trials, iron banner, challenge of elders, nightfall and the pvp nightfall equivalent.
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 10:38:27 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/2/2016 7:01:54 AM EDT
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Tower hanger, to the right as you go down the stairs.

Eternal Warrior - eh, meh. I guess if you like using Unstoppable and Shoulder Charge or Jugg, sure. I normally just use Unstoppable and call it a day, as with most titan exotics, Armamentarium is arguably more useful for PVP, and Ruin Wings for PVE.


Knucklehead Radar - gives you third eye. Again, meh. There will be an artifact that does this in Rise of Iron, and you can get primaries that roll this anyways.


Obsidian Mind - this was the voidwalker exotic back during The Dark Below, now, not so much. It's exotic perk was nerfed a while back, and the current content doesn't really favor nova bomb like it did back in the day. But who knows what Rise of Iron will bring. I'd pick it up for that just in case.


TLW - oh boy. The bestest 1v1 primary in the game, hands down.  Not the easy to use facemelter it was on year one, but still very powerful up close. Not a thing in PVE, this is strictly a PVP weapon, and a good one at that. Buy it and try it if you mess around in the crucible any, and I hate any and all of you that use this thing. Not really, but still. This is a very hard weapon to fight against at close to mid range in a 1v1.


Legacy heavy, in case you wanted an old school Gjallarhorn or something.
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A friend of mine has exactly one exotic shard. I told him to go buy this so he could hopefully unlock something from year 2 to be able to start gaining more. I wish they would just sell shards for strange coins again for people like that.
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Link Posted: 9/2/2016 10:03:59 AM EDT
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The struggle is real.  Pretty much all of my exotics are the same light level as when I got them.  I've only upgraded Ruin Wings, MIDA, Tlaloc, Ace of Spades, and my first Thunderlord (later dismantled for 2 shards and replaced with a higher LL drop).  I don't play a ton and have not gotten very many duplicate exotics, and even if something sucks I've been holding on to stuff in the event Bungie decides to give random exotic X that no one uses a huge buff.  I think I only have 10 or so shards, and some of those are from dismantling upgraded exotics and getting 2 shards.

Quintin is right about getting shards though...best use of strange coins is buying three of coins and grinding strikes.  I also pop a three of coins and help out with the taken zealots if I see someone doing that while I'm on a patrol.
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