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A Shotgun and a Glock 19 are about to fight each other, who wins View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Niether. Cuz shotguns are gay. Glock 19 A Shotgun and a Glock 19 are about to fight each other, who wins Glock 19 wins in every battle unless it's against an AR, where it looses. |
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Glock 19. If there is a question, glock 19 is the answer. Fuckin '03ers View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Niether. Cuz shotguns are gay. Glock 19 A Shotgun and a Glock 19 are about to fight each other, who wins They're inanimate objects. Are you a liberal that thinks guns kill people on their own??? You know what I mean Glock 19. If there is a question, glock 19 is the answer. Fuckin '03ers You definitely have confidence in your choice of the G19. |
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Glock 19 wins in every battle unless it's against an AR, where it looses. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Niether. Cuz shotguns are gay. Glock 19 A Shotgun and a Glock 19 are about to fight each other, who wins Glock 19 wins in every battle unless it's against an AR, where it looses. Duh. This man gets it. |
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The shotgun goes in a case in the back of the vehicle.
The rifle goes up front "cruiser ready." |
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My next thing to get. |
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Your shotgun. Cruiser safe = Full mag tube, empty chamber, hammer cocked, safety on. Cruiser Ready = Full mag tube, empty chamber, hammer decocked, safety on. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/Bamashooter/Mossberg%20Rebuild%202014/20141014_165405_zps3c94019f.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/Bamashooter/Remington%20870%20Rebuild%202015/20151019_165655_zpsiqvjs7hl.jpg View Quote Cruiser safe ? = Full mag tube, empty chamber, hammer cocked, safety on OFF. All the safety does on a shotgun if keep the trigger from being pressed. Serves no other purpose, so I leave mine off if the chamber is empty. Once I rack the slide but I am off target, then the safety is on. I don't know what you call this condition but it makes the most sense to me. I prefer the hammer cocked so that the slide isn't sloppy. Once you "decoct" a shotgun (press the trigger) then the slide will walk especially on a well worn or oiled pump. Keeping the hammer cocked keeps the pump action locked. It can only be un;locked again by pressing the trigger or by hitting the release bar. I see this as a safety in itself. Anyone ignorant of how an 870 work can't just pick it up and shoot it... YMMV |
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Banzai Ready:
One in the chamber (dragons breath) Empty mag tube Safety off Bayonet affixed |
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Don't have to hit the release button when chambering a round. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Cruiser safe. Dropping the hammer never had even occurred to me.... what would the rationale behind that be? Don't have to hit the release button when chambering a round. Tracking. I do keep a 14" 870 loaded, but it's down pretty far on the "OH FUCK!!!!" depth chart. To be perfectly honest I couldn't tell you with any certainty of its exact "condition" right now without going to the safe and looking I'm positive there's at least a full 5-round tube of 000 buck though. |
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I hope you guys that keep chambered shotguns in your closets understand that they bump fire easily.
The safety doesn't do a damned thing but keep the trigger from being pressed... If a chambered shotgun falls on the ground it goes BOOM, safety or not. |
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I hope you guys that keep chambered shotguns in your closets understand that they bump fire easily. The safety doesn't do a damned thing but keep the trigger from being pressed... If a chambered shotgun falls on the ground it goes BOOM, safety or not. View Quote That's why I'd never store a long gun in a vehicle with a round in the chamber. I can't imagine a traffic accident sucking less with the addition of a rifle bullet or charge of buckshot thrown into the mix. Just on the floor leaning up against a corner in a closet or safe though... pretty darn safe. The "impact" won't be in the right direction to create an "inertia" fire. |
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That's why I'd never store a long gun in a vehicle with a round in the chamber. I can't imagine a traffic accident sucking less with the addition of a rifle bullet or charge of buckshot thrown into the mix. Just on the floor leaning up against a corner in a closet or safe though... pretty darn safe. The "impact" won't be in the right direction to create an "inertia" fire. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I hope you guys that keep chambered shotguns in your closets understand that they bump fire easily. The safety doesn't do a damned thing but keep the trigger from being pressed... If a chambered shotgun falls on the ground it goes BOOM, safety or not. That's why I'd never store a long gun in a vehicle with a round in the chamber. I can't imagine a traffic accident sucking less with the addition of a rifle bullet or charge of buckshot thrown into the mix. Just on the floor leaning up against a corner in a closet or safe though... pretty darn safe. The "impact" won't be in the right direction to create an "inertia" fire. I don't know... Have you tried it yet? |
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Cruiser ready, with a safety flag poking out of the action so, [DonCorleone] and I hope that day never comes [/Don Corleone] I won't forget there's nothing in the chamber and get a click instead of a bang.
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So you can rack the slide and load the shotgun.. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Cruiser safe. Dropping the hammer never had even occurred to me.... what would the rationale behind that be? So you can rack the slide and load the shotgun.. without having to hit the action bar... |
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I hope you guys that keep chambered shotguns in your closets understand that they bump fire easily. The safety doesn't do a damned thing but keep the trigger from being pressed... If a chambered shotgun falls on the ground it goes BOOM, safety or not. View Quote I'm gonna cry foul on that unless you have some evidence that doesnt include, "my uncle heard it from a guy" |
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I'm gonna cry foul on that unless you have some evidence that doesnt include, "my uncle heard it from a guy" View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I hope you guys that keep chambered shotguns in your closets understand that they bump fire easily. The safety doesn't do a damned thing but keep the trigger from being pressed... If a chambered shotgun falls on the ground it goes BOOM, safety or not. I'm gonna cry foul on that unless you have some evidence that doesnt include, "my uncle heard it from a guy" Try it for yourself... |
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I hope you guys that keep chambered shotguns in your closets understand that they bump fire easily. The safety doesn't do a damned thing but keep the trigger from being pressed... If a chambered shotgun falls on the ground it goes BOOM, safety or not. I'm gonna cry foul on that unless you have some evidence that doesnt include, "my uncle heard it from a guy" Try it for yourself... Falling muzzle-first.... probably going to go off. Falling butt-first... might go off. Falling pretty much any other way... almost certainly not going to go off. |
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I do keep a 14" 870 loaded, but it's down pretty far on the "OH FUCK!!!!" depth chart. To be perfectly honest I couldn't tell you with any certainty of its exact "condition" right now without going to the safe and looking I'm positive there's at least a full 5-round tube of 000 buck though. View Quote I left my 11-87 with the chamber empty but the magazine tube loaded with 3 1/2" shells for a month or two in the closet. Went to chamber it one day and the shells had swollen up a little from being under spring pressure - absolutely would not chamber (these were standard plastic hull shells). Don't know if it could happen with 2 3/4 or 3" shells but that sure was an eye-opener for me. |
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Cruiser safe for HH6's 500. Standard drill is to hit the bolt release, cycle the action and drop the safety when you're engaging a target.
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Falling muzzle-first.... probably going to go off. Falling butt-first... might go off. Falling pretty much any other way... almost certainly not going to go off. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I hope you guys that keep chambered shotguns in your closets understand that they bump fire easily. The safety doesn't do a damned thing but keep the trigger from being pressed... If a chambered shotgun falls on the ground it goes BOOM, safety or not. I'm gonna cry foul on that unless you have some evidence that doesnt include, "my uncle heard it from a guy" Try it for yourself... Falling muzzle-first.... probably going to go off. Falling butt-first... might go off. Falling pretty much any other way... almost certainly not going to go off. As in you have scientific proof of this or its just possible under certain conditions. Certainly heard a tale or two of "it just went off" but yet to seen it proven on video so just looking for some sort of documented evidence of this happening of a stock out the box mass produced shotgun on a regular basis as to substantiate "Probably" If i drop my AR on its muzzle is it probably going to go off? im not saying they wont. Ive just never heard of such a thing so if im doing something insanely dangerous i would like to find out. Cause i got a bunch of shotguns all loaded in this manner. |
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You can rack the slide and go. Don't have to push the slide release button before you rack it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Cruiser safe. Dropping the hammer never had even occurred to me.... what would the rationale behind that be? You can rack the slide and go. Don't have to push the slide release button before you rack it. I am not an LEO, nor do I play one on TV. But would that be a bad thing? Assuming you train to hit the slide release to rack the shotty, wouldn't that perhaps foul up some hoodlum/yokel/wanker/jackass that grabbed the shotgun from the cruiser and tried to blast you with it? I mean, his fumbling with a gun he might not know much about might buy you enough time to draw and fight your way back to your longarm in such a situation, yet not cost you much time if you train for it. |
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Practically all modern handguns have firing pin safeties, while most long guns don't. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Full tube, chambered, safety on. I carry a handgun with a round in the chamber, why wouldn't I store my long guns the same way? Practically all modern handguns have firing pin safeties, while most long guns don't. Yup. My long guns do not get one in the chamber until and unless I believe the need to fire is imminent. Cruiser ready for me in all long guns, tube-fed and otherwise. Handguns are carried Condition One. |
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My shotgun is kept just like my rifles, and all other defensive tools. Fully loaded, one in the chamber. safety on. Most of my pistols have no safeties, so they're just cocked and ready to rock.
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The 930, has a full tube, chamber empty, safety on. Pretty sure the hammer is cocked as it never occurred to me to do otherwise. Granted its a semi, so just rack the bolt and ready to go. Makes sense in a pump though.
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Another "ready" vote. My Mossberg sits next to the dresser, full tube, empty chamber/hammer down.
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Cruiser ready for shotguns. Chamber loaded safety on for rifles.
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