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Posted: 9/7/2015 11:48:08 PM EDT
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You can ban people, but you can't ban safety. Safety science always finds a way. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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fun fact. If you join a group called ar-15 nation on the facebook. Then tell a transvestite that it needs to utilize its safety you will be banned. You can ban people, but you can't ban safety. Safety science always finds a way. 
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Posted: 9/11/2015 1:46:41 AM EDT
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Well, we can argue about what position for the selector all day, but it's fact that this is the only way to turn your weapon into the arms room...
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Posted: 9/11/2015 1:51:06 AM EDT
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Well, we can argue about what position for the selector all day, but it's fact that this is the only way to turn your weapon into the arms room... https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11071301_1127471813945482_6639993508043459374_n.jpg?oh=7ba4de55fb05bf0742436b1cc5434c24&oe=56779B8F On safe? 
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Posted: 9/11/2015 10:05:40 AM EDT
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Well, we can argue about what position for the selector all day, but it's fact that this is the only way to turn your weapon into the arms room... https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11071301_1127471813945482_6639993508043459374_n.jpg?oh=7ba4de55fb05bf0742436b1cc5434c24&oe=56779B8F On safe? 
Looks like we finally agree ETA- we have to turn in weapons on safe in my unit's armory as well.... |
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Posted: 9/15/2015 11:53:23 PM EDT
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Well, we can argue about what position for the selector all day, but it's fact that this is the only way to turn your weapon into the arms room... https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11071301_1127471813945482_6639993508043459374_n.jpg?oh=7ba4de55fb05bf0742436b1cc5434c24&oe=56779B8F One dollar? Lol. |
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Posted: 9/16/2015 1:12:20 AM EDT
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Well, that certainly put that issue to rest.
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Posted: 9/16/2015 10:44:01 PM EDT
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Well, that certainly put that issue to rest. The science has been settled, yet safety violators still exist. The weapons handling community needs to adopt a zero tolerance attitude toward safety violators. When safety violators emerge, the natural reaction should be an uncontrollable urge to ram the rock hard throbbing scientific truth of weapons safety down their safety violator throats. |
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Posted: 9/16/2015 11:47:51 PM EDT
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Alas there will be one more.
I feel a ripple in the force |
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Posted: 9/25/2015 10:34:57 PM EDT
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Spreading the word of safety science in music form:
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Posted: 9/26/2015 9:41:32 PM EDT
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I have a confession to make
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I applied my safety after each engagement at the range today. . . . I also applied my safety on a empty and cleared rifle when I put it into the safe. . . Mister H do you think spring science will keep my rifle in fighting condition? |
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Posted: 9/26/2015 9:54:01 PM EDT
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Well, we can argue about what position for the selector all day, but it's fact that this is the only way to turn your weapon into the arms room... https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11071301_1127471813945482_6639993508043459374_n.jpg?oh=7ba4de55fb05bf0742436b1cc5434c24&oe=56779B8F Should have stuffed a PT belt in the chamber to make it triple safe. |
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Posted: 9/26/2015 10:38:15 PM EDT
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Man I'm still laughing about how hard that picture backfired.
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Posted: 9/26/2015 10:42:58 PM EDT
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I have a confession to make I applied my safety after each engagement at the range today. I also applied my safety on a empty and cleared rifle when I put it into the safe. Mister H do you think spring science will keep my rifle in fighting condition? Science says compare the number of threads on Arfcom about hammer springs wearing out to the number of threads about having an ND. Then divide by 1. |
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Posted: 9/27/2015 12:34:42 AM EDT
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Science says compare the number of threads on Arfcom about hammer springs wearing out to the number of threads about having an ND. Then divide by 1. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have a confession to make I applied my safety after each engagement at the range today. I also applied my safety on a empty and cleared rifle when I put it into the safe. Mister H do you think spring science will keep my rifle in fighting condition? Science says compare the number of threads on Arfcom about hammer springs wearing out to the number of threads about having an ND. Then divide by 1. 
I can't say I'd ever thought of it that way. |
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Posted: 9/27/2015 12:46:54 AM EDT
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If I pick up my AR right now it has an empty chamber, full magazine, BCG forward, hammer dropped, and the safety is off. How else does one store an AR with a full magazine and an empty chamber? You know you can store it with an empty chamber, hammer back, safety on as well, correct? |
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Posted: 9/27/2015 12:47:31 AM EDT
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When the gun is hot I use the safety. When in truck and home mode it is as I described above. ETA: Empty chamber, full magazine, BCG forward, hammer dropped, and the safety is off. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Man- I'll try again - for science. What reL reason do you have for not using the safety. Not feels...but real data proving that not using that tiny lever is bad. I'm dying holding my breath. When the gun is hot I use the safety. When in truck and home mode it is as I described above. ETA: Empty chamber, full magazine, BCG forward, hammer dropped, and the safety is off. Treat all firearms as though they are loaded. You aren't doing it. |
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Posted: 9/27/2015 12:52:14 AM EDT
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That makes sense. I not trying to be sarcastic, and I know all about the "those who have and those who will club," but I have not had an ND with the hammer down and the safety off. However, I will start doing it with the hammer back, safety on, and an empty chamber. 
PS: The safety is always on when the gun is hot or I am done shooting with a live chamber and a partially loaded magazine. 
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Posted: 9/27/2015 1:08:47 AM EDT
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So nice to see another person who came to the light.
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Posted: 11/8/2015 11:19:41 PM EDT
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Due to recent developments, the thread must go on.
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Posted: 11/8/2015 11:23:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryIt's like it just got in lol
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Posted: 11/9/2015 12:29:52 AM EDT
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When you're in the business of teaching stupid people how to properly handle their weapons, here on Arfcom business is good.
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Posted: 11/9/2015 12:31:25 AM EDT
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It lives!
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Posted: 11/9/2015 12:43:51 AM EDT
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It lives! A member quietly IM'd me thanking me for showing him the light, as he felt it had recently prevented him from possibly having an ND. He was obviously a physically fit, mentally capable, good smelling person, because he read the thread and made the logical decision to stop leaving his AR on fire, and stopped needlessly pulling the trigger. We must continue to teach Arfcom about professional weapons handling. Our very safety may depend on it. |
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Posted: 11/9/2015 1:13:47 AM EDT
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While the vocal minority squawk and peacock selfishly looking for attention by promoting safety violations, I feel good that people who have an open mind and understand logic are able to learn from the thread and prevent mishap.
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Posted: 11/9/2015 1:14:13 AM EDT
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What about dry-fire practice mister_H? How do you feel about that? Do you never dryfire and just will away bad trigger disipline? And as for snap caps, they cost more than live ammo around here. It's like $5 for a box of 10 snap caps. Not to mention there was a case around here where a man thought he had snap-caps in his firearm, and had a negligent discharge. Please tell me how professionals such as yourself proceed with dry-firing safely.
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Posted: 11/9/2015 1:38:52 AM EDT
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What about dry-fire practice mister_H? How do you feel about that? Do you never dryfire and just will away bad trigger disipline? And as for snap caps, they cost more than live ammo around here. It's like $5 for a box of 10 snap caps. Not to mention there was a case around here where a man thought he had snap-caps in his firearm, and had a negligent discharge. Please tell me how professionals such as yourself proceed with dry-firing safely. When dry firing use the same precautions as you would wet firing. You're welcome. |
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Posted: 11/9/2015 1:55:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When dry firing use the same precautions as you would wet firing. You're welcome. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What about dry-fire practice mister_H? How do you feel about that? Do you never dryfire and just will away bad trigger disipline? And as for snap caps, they cost more than live ammo around here. It's like $5 for a box of 10 snap caps. Not to mention there was a case around here where a man thought he had snap-caps in his firearm, and had a negligent discharge. Please tell me how professionals such as yourself proceed with dry-firing safely. When dry firing use the same precautions as you would wet firing. You're welcome. |
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Posted: 11/9/2015 2:16:57 AM EDT
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When dry firing use the same precautions as you would wet firing. You're welcome. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What about dry-fire practice mister_H? How do you feel about that? Do you never dryfire and just will away bad trigger disipline? And as for snap caps, they cost more than live ammo around here. It's like $5 for a box of 10 snap caps. Not to mention there was a case around here where a man thought he had snap-caps in his firearm, and had a negligent discharge. Please tell me how professionals such as yourself proceed with dry-firing safely. When dry firing use the same precautions as you would wet firing. You're welcome. I see what you did there, and I appreciate the humor, however I think you'd agree when I say safety science is no joking matter! |
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Posted: 11/9/2015 2:25:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I see what you did there, and I appreciate the humor, however I think you'd agree when I say safety science is no joking matter! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: What about dry-fire practice mister_H? How do you feel about that? Do you never dryfire and just will away bad trigger disipline? And as for snap caps, they cost more than live ammo around here. It's like $5 for a box of 10 snap caps. Not to mention there was a case around here where a man thought he had snap-caps in his firearm, and had a negligent discharge. Please tell me how professionals such as yourself proceed with dry-firing safely. When dry firing use the same precautions as you would wet firing. You're welcome. I see what you did there, and I appreciate the humor, however I think you'd agree when I say safety science is no joking matter! |
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Posted: 11/9/2015 2:38:54 AM EDT
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What humor? What about his response did you think was a joke? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What about dry-fire practice mister_H? How do you feel about that? Do you never dryfire and just will away bad trigger disipline? And as for snap caps, they cost more than live ammo around here. It's like $5 for a box of 10 snap caps. Not to mention there was a case around here where a man thought he had snap-caps in his firearm, and had a negligent discharge. Please tell me how professionals such as yourself proceed with dry-firing safely. When dry firing use the same precautions as you would wet firing. You're welcome. I see what you did there, and I appreciate the humor, however I think you'd agree when I say safety science is no joking matter! Wet firing. As we all should know that firing a weapon filled with water, or some type of liquid could lead to over pressure and a very unsafe firearm. |
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Posted: 11/9/2015 4:01:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wet firing. As we all should know that firing a weapon filled with water, or some type of liquid could lead to over pressure and a very unsafe firearm. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What about dry-fire practice mister_H? How do you feel about that? Do you never dryfire and just will away bad trigger disipline? And as for snap caps, they cost more than live ammo around here. It's like $5 for a box of 10 snap caps. Not to mention there was a case around here where a man thought he had snap-caps in his firearm, and had a negligent discharge. Please tell me how professionals such as yourself proceed with dry-firing safely. When dry firing use the same precautions as you would wet firing. You're welcome. I see what you did there, and I appreciate the humor, however I think you'd agree when I say safety science is no joking matter! Wet firing. As we all should know that firing a weapon filled with water, or some type of liquid could lead to over pressure and a very unsafe firearm. |
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Posted: 11/9/2015 7:55:23 AM EDT
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Quote Historywhere in the FUCK did you find that? |
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Posted: 11/9/2015 11:38:22 AM EDT
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don't end up like this guy, keep your selector on safe
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Posted: 11/9/2015 12:46:24 PM EDT
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where in the FUCK did you find that? Quote HistoryQuoted:
where in the FUCK did you find that? It found me, but it is basically the artistic representation of spreading safety science. |
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Posted: 11/9/2015 12:56:24 PM EDT
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don't end up like this guy, keep your selector on safe http://cdn2.mommyish.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/juggalo-with-baby-and-PBR.jpg Scientifically speaking, Juggalos are a step above safety violators and people who don't understand how springs work. In order to improve themselves, they should strive to be more like Juggalos as the next logical step in hierarchical progression. |
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Posted: 11/9/2015 12:57:48 PM EDT
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I'm glad to see this thread come back. it's an arfcom treasure. this thread is a priceless essential piece of ARFCOMs creed. If the site had a national archives. This thread would be it's central focus. A magna carta of safety if you will.
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Posted: 11/9/2015 1:12:14 PM EDT
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People who store their ARs hammer down, don't understand how springs work. People who store their AR's with the hammer down are emulating one of two behaviors: 1. they store their pistols decocked, so the rifle is done the same way 2. they are used to following competition rules such as USPSA, where the hammer is down on an empty chamber when the weapon is cleared and safe Only the military uses the condition of empty mag/chamber/cocked/safety-on. |
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Posted: 11/9/2015 1:13:44 PM EDT
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People who store their AR's with the hammer down are emulating one of two behaviors: 1. they store their pistols decocked, so the rifle is done the same way 2. they are used to following competition rules such as USPSA, where the hammer is down on an empty chamber when the weapon is cleared and safe Only the military uses the condition of empty mag/chamber/cocked/safety-on. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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People who store their ARs hammer down, don't understand how springs work. People who store their AR's with the hammer down are emulating one of two behaviors: 1. they store their pistols decocked, so the rifle is done the same way 2. they are used to following competition rules such as USPSA, where the hammer is down on an empty chamber when the weapon is cleared and safe Only the military uses the condition of empty mag/chamber/cocked/safety-on. Wat |
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Posted: 11/9/2015 1:19:46 PM EDT
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People who store their AR's with the hammer down are emulating one of two behaviors: 1. they store their pistols decocked, so the rifle is done the same way 2. they are used to following competition rules such as USPSA, where the hammer is down on an empty chamber when the weapon is cleared and safe Only the military uses the condition of empty mag/chamber/cocked/safety-on. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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People who store their ARs hammer down, don't understand how springs work. People who store their AR's with the hammer down are emulating one of two behaviors: 1. they store their pistols decocked, so the rifle is done the same way 2. they are used to following competition rules such as USPSA, where the hammer is down on an empty chamber when the weapon is cleared and safe Only the military uses the condition of empty mag/chamber/cocked/safety-on. I don't play gun games, can you explain how attempting to fire a pistol or rifle is part of clearing it and making it safe? |
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Posted: 11/9/2015 1:24:02 PM EDT
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I don't play gun games, can you explain how attempting to fire a pistol or rifle is part of clearing it and making it safe? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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People who store their ARs hammer down, don't understand how springs work. People who store their AR's with the hammer down are emulating one of two behaviors: 1. they store their pistols decocked, so the rifle is done the same way 2. they are used to following competition rules such as USPSA, where the hammer is down on an empty chamber when the weapon is cleared and safe Only the military uses the condition of empty mag/chamber/cocked/safety-on. I don't play gun games, can you explain how attempting to fire a pistol or rifle is part of clearing it and making it safe? In gun games you are at a range, pointing the pistol in a safe direction (down-range). You are firing the pistol as part of clearing it because no one else at the range trusts you to have cleared it properly. It has no applicability to clearing your own firearms in a safe manner. |
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Posted: 11/9/2015 3:48:54 PM EDT
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In gun games you are at a range, pointing the pistol in a safe direction (down-range). You are firing the pistol as part of clearing it because no one else at the range trusts you to have cleared it properly. It has no applicability to clearing your own firearms in a safe manner. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't play gun games, can you explain how attempting to fire a pistol or rifle is part of clearing it and making it safe? In gun games you are at a range, pointing the pistol in a safe direction (down-range). You are firing the pistol as part of clearing it because no one else at the range trusts you to have cleared it properly. It has no applicability to clearing your own firearms in a safe manner. Oh, now I remember. There was a member here that had 4 NDs to his name utilizing that method. Seems legit. |
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Posted: 11/9/2015 4:06:49 PM EDT
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Let's bring this back:
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Posted: 11/9/2015 4:23:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryScience fact. It's common sense safety that we can all agree on. |
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Posted: 11/9/2015 6:34:20 PM EDT
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Well, what is the proper way to fire a weapon that has been filled with liquid then? What is the safety protocol in that situation? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I see what you did there, and I appreciate the humor, however I think you'd agree when I say safety science is no joking matter! Wet firing. As we all should know that firing a weapon filled with water, or some type of liquid could lead to over pressure and a very unsafe firearm. Trick question, you don't fire a weapon that's been filled with water. |
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Posted: 11/9/2015 6:51:20 PM EDT
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Trick question, you don't fire a weapon that's been filled with water. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I see what you did there, and I appreciate the humor, however I think you'd agree when I say safety science is no joking matter! Wet firing. As we all should know that firing a weapon filled with water, or some type of liquid could lead to over pressure and a very unsafe firearm. Trick question, you don't fire a weapon that's been filled with water. You may not be ready for safety science. I'd suggest you spend some time working on that, and would like to welcome you to apply back in a year. |
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Posted: 11/9/2015 7:20:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trick question, you don't fire a weapon that's been filled with water. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I see what you did there, and I appreciate the humor, however I think you'd agree when I say safety science is no joking matter! Wet firing. As we all should know that firing a weapon filled with water, or some type of liquid could lead to over pressure and a very unsafe firearm. Trick question, you don't fire a weapon that's been filled with water. It's no trick question, it's just beyond your skill level at this point. |
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Posted: 11/9/2015 7:31:51 PM EDT
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You know you can store it with an empty chamber, hammer back, safety on as well, correct? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If I pick up my AR right now it has an empty chamber, full magazine, BCG forward, hammer dropped, and the safety is off. How else does one store an AR with a full magazine and an empty chamber? You know you can store it with an empty chamber, hammer back, safety on as well, correct? If you don't have a chamber flag in it as well, you clearly don't give a fuck about safety. Thread is retarded. |
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Posted: 11/9/2015 8:06:23 PM EDT
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If you don't have a chamber flag in it as well, you clearly don't give a fuck about safety. Thread is retarded. 
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Posted: 11/9/2015 8:24:10 PM EDT
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If you don't have a chamber flag in it as well, you clearly don't give a fuck about safety. Thread is retarded. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If I pick up my AR right now it has an empty chamber, full magazine, BCG forward, hammer dropped, and the safety is off. How else does one store an AR with a full magazine and an empty chamber? You know you can store it with an empty chamber, hammer back, safety on as well, correct? If you don't have a chamber flag in it as well, you clearly don't give a fuck about safety. Thread is retarded. I'm sorry that you think treating every weapon as if it were loaded is retarded. Hopefully it doesn't come back to bite you or your loved ones. 
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Posted: 11/9/2015 8:39:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you don't have a chamber flag in it as well, you clearly don't give a fuck about safety. Thread is retarded. Try again. |
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