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Posted: 7/2/2015 1:37:23 AM EDT
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I am more in the "Complacency Kills" crowd regardless mechanical safety features of a given firearm. Some seem to have glanced over that but imho complacency is the actual problem. Not all firearms have a mechanical safety, treat all firearms as loaded. If a safety is available use it as appropriate. Always know the status of your firearm and never lose respect for it and become complacent. If the hammer is to be dropped, unload, verify an empty and clear chamber, safe direction, drop hammer. Dropping the hammer on an empty chamber fosters other complacent behaviors. There is no tangible benefit to dropping the hammer. If you want to keep a loaded magazine inserted with an empty chamber, the correct condition is this: Weapon on safe, bolt forward, chamber empty, magazine inserted, ejection port cover closed. If you have the hammer dropped on fire, with a loaded magazine inserted, you have to charge the weapon and load a round into the chamber with the weapon on fire. That is sloppy weapons handling. The weapon should be on safe when you charge it. It is common sense safety. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 1:40:47 AM EDT
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That's gross. I bet the guy smells worse than the whale carcass. I never knew whale killers were so unsafe. 
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http://i62.tinypic.com/fadhk8.jpg Use your safety, Billy. You'll have a WHALE of a time explaining your ND to the cops! That's gross. I bet the guy smells worse than the whale carcass. I never knew whale killers were so unsafe.
Safety is on in that picture. He's good. What is interesting though, is he must have caught that whale crossing that danger area without other whales in overwatch positions. Whales always travel using bounding overwatch, to cross danger areas. For some reason this whale didn't. Natural selection at its finest. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 1:54:53 AM EDT
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I bet H can find at least 3 more ND posts from dirty safety violators that criticize this thread before we hit 50 It's going to be difficult, but challenge accepted! |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 2:29:26 AM EDT
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Safety is on in that picture. He's good. What is interesting though, is he must have caught that whale crossing that danger area without other whales in overwatch positions. Whales always travel using bounding overwatch, to cross danger areas. For some reason this whale didn't. Natural selection at its finest. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://i62.tinypic.com/fadhk8.jpg Use your safety, Billy. You'll have a WHALE of a time explaining your ND to the cops! That's gross. I bet the guy smells worse than the whale carcass. I never knew whale killers were so unsafe.
Safety is on in that picture. He's good. What is interesting though, is he must have caught that whale crossing that danger area without other whales in overwatch positions. Whales always travel using bounding overwatch, to cross danger areas. For some reason this whale didn't. Natural selection at its finest. Maybe the whales sent a runner. I hope he was searched. Maybe he snuck out looking for a piece of tail. Whale tale. Whales always up to something. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 2:52:34 AM EDT
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JohnBurns is Noah's long lost evil twin. Instead of saving two of every animal, he as shot two of each.
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Posted: 7/2/2015 2:55:22 AM EDT
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ETA: And I have killed two posts!
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Posted: 7/2/2015 3:06:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: JohnBurns is Noah's long lost evil twin. Instead of saving two of every animal, he as shot two of each.  |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 3:55:12 AM EDT
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This has got to be the longest troll thread ever! Gotta love it. Not even a troll thread. Actually read the thread and learn about proper weapons handling procedures. Who knows, you might even learn about how springs work. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 7:04:57 AM EDT
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are we going to need a butcher board for the spring class? or a white board with markers?
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Posted: 7/2/2015 7:55:12 AM EDT
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Dropping the hammer on an empty chamber fosters other complacent behaviors. There is no tangible benefit to dropping the hammer. If you want to keep a loaded magazine inserted with an empty chamber, the correct condition is this: Weapon on safe, bolt forward, chamber empty, magazine inserted, ejection port cover closed. If you have the hammer dropped on fire, with a loaded magazine inserted, you have to charge the weapon and load a round into the chamber with the weapon on fire. That is sloppy weapons handling. The weapon should be on safe when you charge it. It is common sense safety. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am more in the "Complacency Kills" crowd regardless mechanical safety features of a given firearm. Some seem to have glanced over that but imho complacency is the actual problem. Not all firearms have a mechanical safety, treat all firearms as loaded. If a safety is available use it as appropriate. Always know the status of your firearm and never lose respect for it and become complacent. If the hammer is to be dropped, unload, verify an empty and clear chamber, safe direction, drop hammer. Dropping the hammer on an empty chamber fosters other complacent behaviors. There is no tangible benefit to dropping the hammer. If you want to keep a loaded magazine inserted with an empty chamber, the correct condition is this: Weapon on safe, bolt forward, chamber empty, magazine inserted, ejection port cover closed. If you have the hammer dropped on fire, with a loaded magazine inserted, you have to charge the weapon and load a round into the chamber with the weapon on fire. That is sloppy weapons handling. The weapon should be on safe when you charge it. It is common sense safety. He's got a point you know, be careful of those absolute statements. 
You should have stated "There is no tangible benefit to dropping the hammer on an AR-15" Decocker bro, use it. The science is sound. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 8:33:14 AM EDT
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He's got a point you know, be careful of those absolute statements.
http://www.armoryblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/sig-sauer-p226-mk25-1024x825.jpg You should have stated "There is no tangible benefit to dropping the hammer on an AR-15" Decocker bro, use it. The science is sound. Decocking and dropping the hammer are two different functions. Read a science book. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 9:23:18 AM EDT
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Decocking and dropping the hammer are two different functions. Read a science book. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He's got a point you know, be careful of those absolute statements.
http://www.armoryblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/sig-sauer-p226-mk25-1024x825.jpg You should have stated "There is no tangible benefit to dropping the hammer on an AR-15" Decocker bro, use it. The science is sound. Decocking and dropping the hammer are two different functions. Read a science book. Devil always in the details.  
I stand corrected. Many revolvers then. Not that you'd cock the hammer willy nilly, but stuff happens. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 9:27:06 AM EDT
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This thread has changed how I store my weapons.
I pulled the trigger on my glocks and ARs before storage. Never had an ND, but Mister H is correct and I was wrong. thank you for the thread. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 9:55:34 AM EDT
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This thread has changed how I store my weapons. I pulled the trigger on my glocks and ARs before storage. Never had an ND, but Mister H is correct and I was wrong. thank you for the thread. Its kinda funny that I didn't notice before that Army clearing and storage standards equal an ND. Thank you semper guy, thank you. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 9:56:23 AM EDT
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This thread has changed how I store my weapons. I pulled the trigger on my glocks and ARs before storage. Never had an ND, but Mister H is correct and I was wrong. thank you for the thread. here here |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 10:01:23 AM EDT
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Its kinda funny that I didn't notice before that Army clearing and storage standards equal an ND. Thank you semper guy, thank you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This thread has changed how I store my weapons. I pulled the trigger on my glocks and ARs before storage. Never had an ND, but Mister H is correct and I was wrong. thank you for the thread. Its kinda funny that I didn't notice before that Army clearing and storage standards equal an ND. Thank you semper guy, thank you. It obviously doesn't equal an ND. But how many times did you hear a "bang" at the clearing barrel? "I don't know what happened sarge, I charged my weapon and pulled the trigger and it went bang" "art 15 dirt bag. you should know better." When I was deployed I never cleared my weapon except to clean it. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 10:19:20 AM EDT
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It obviously doesn't equal an ND. But how many times did you hear a "bang" at the clearing barrel? "I don't know what happened sarge, I charged my weapon and pulled the trigger and it went bang" "art 15 dirt bag. you should know better." When I was deployed I never cleared my weapon except to clean it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This thread has changed how I store my weapons. I pulled the trigger on my glocks and ARs before storage. Never had an ND, but Mister H is correct and I was wrong. thank you for the thread. Its kinda funny that I didn't notice before that Army clearing and storage standards equal an ND. Thank you semper guy, thank you. It obviously doesn't equal an ND. But how many times did you hear a "bang" at the clearing barrel? "I don't know what happened sarge, I charged my weapon and pulled the trigger and it went bang" "art 15 dirt bag. you should know better." When I was deployed I never cleared my weapon except to clean it. It equals an ND when you mix in ammo and stupid. I'm in the same boat. Clear for cleaning and then load it back up, but Im exempted from the clearing bbl rules. I have seen many clearing barrel pops. With MI people you always get two for one. After they shoot the dirt bucket they look shocked, then drop the magazine and pull the trigger again, or rack the slide, drop the magazine and pull the trigger again. However at home I also clear glocks and AR's and store them hammer/trigger down in the safe. My girl does it too. I decided to change this as a result of this thread. No reason not to use the mechanical safeties built into the weapon with the express purpose of preventing ND's. My last two company armorers demanded the weapons hammer down and I never really thought about it. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 10:37:07 AM EDT
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My last two company armorers demanded the weapons hammer down and I never really thought about it. Apparently they didn't think about it, either... I can only remember 5 NDs during my time in the Marines. 3 were with open bolt weapons where non 0331s ND'ed the M2, one was an army female who ND'ed right into a clearing barrel at Abu Ghraib prison's chow hall, the other was from a Marine who SWEARS he had a slam fire at the clearing berm when coming off of a patrol. I knew better, but since I was "the gun guy" I basically told the CO it was plausible so that he wouldn't get NJP'ed. We were far enough away from the flag pole that people were willing to let it slide. Basically, he said that his gun slam fired when he went to make condition 4... After basically lying through my teeth for him, we had a nice chat... Basically, he kept the lie up with me, but he couldn't explain to me why someone would be shutting the bolt on a live round when they are CLEARING a weapon. I had a look at his extractor, and it was fine. Though he swears it isn't true, I know he racked the bolt on a gun with a mag still inserted and then pulled the trigger. Dropping the hammer should only be done when it is absolutely necessary, or you are ready to take the heat for an ND. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 11:13:44 AM EDT
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Its kinda funny that I didn't notice before that Army clearing and storage standards equal an ND. Thank you semper guy, thank you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This thread has changed how I store my weapons. I pulled the trigger on my glocks and ARs before storage. Never had an ND, but Mister H is correct and I was wrong. thank you for the thread. Its kinda funny that I didn't notice before that Army clearing and storage standards equal an ND. Thank you semper guy, thank you. 
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Posted: 7/2/2015 11:23:33 AM EDT
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Not sure if this has been posted, I haven't read the whole thread.
TM 9-1005-319-10 is the operating manual for the AR series of weapons. Here is what it says. It completely supports MisterH's position. There is NOTHING in the TM which indicates dry firing the weapon is required for storage. PM Magazine should be written. And bonnie should be bathed and brought to my cubicle. Clearing Weapon WARNING The weapon MUST be cleared to be considered SAFE before disassembly, cleaning transporting or storing. 1. Point weapon in safe direction. Place selector lever on SAFE. If weapon is not cocked, lever can’t be pointed toward safe. 2. Remove cartridge magazine by depressing magazine catch button pulling cartridge magazine 3. To lock bolt open, pull charging handle rearward. Press bottom of bolt catch and allow bolt to move forward until it engages bolt catch. Return charging handle to f forward position. Check receiver and chamber to ensure these areas ammo. 4. With selector lever pointing towards SAFE, allow bolt to go forward by pressing upper portion of bolt catch. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 11:34:01 AM EDT
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Technical manual?
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Posted: 7/2/2015 11:35:45 AM EDT
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Technical Manual.
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Posted: 7/2/2015 11:44:48 AM EDT
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Not sure if this has been posted, I haven't read the whole thread. TM 9-1005-319-10 is the operating manual for the AR series of weapons. Here is what it says. It completely supports MisterH's position. There is NOTHING in the TM which indicates dry firing the weapon is required for storage. PM Magazine should be written. And bonnie should be bathed and brought to my cubicle. Clearing Weapon WARNING The weapon MUST be cleared to be considered SAFE before disassembly, cleaning transporting or storing. 1. Point weapon in safe direction. Place selector lever on SAFE. If weapon is not cocked, lever can’t be pointed toward safe. 2. Remove cartridge magazine by depressing magazine catch button pulling cartridge magazine 3. To lock bolt open, pull charging handle rearward. Press bottom of bolt catch and allow bolt to move forward until it engages bolt catch. Return charging handle to f forward position. Check receiver and chamber to ensure these areas ammo. 4. With selector lever pointing towards SAFE, allow bolt to go forward by pressing upper portion of bolt catch. Interesting. I wonder why so many armorers always want to store hammer down. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 11:50:14 AM EDT
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Interesting. I wonder why so many armorers always want to store hammer down. No idea. I have had rifles in storage for over a decade that show absolutely no degradation in the performance of the trigger assembly. It's like the entire "how do you store a 1911 with the hammer cocked or not" argument... it's making assumptions of metallurgy that play out over a few decades not a few weeks/months. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 11:58:20 AM EDT
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Technical Manual. technically speaking. Good fact. I have edited my post to reflect the accurate truths of sciencing. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 11:59:17 AM EDT
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Interesting. I wonder why so many armorers always want to store hammer down. Maybe they don't know how springs work? |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 12:30:00 PM EDT
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Interesting. I wonder why so many armorers always want to store hammer down. Maybe they don't know how springs work? PM magazine had a blurb in it a few years ago about storing hammer down to save the springs
I always wondered why the operators manual for the M2HB said to press the trigger as the last step in clearing. Never liked it. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 12:32:38 PM EDT
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Technical Manual. technically speaking. Good fact. I have edited my post to reflect the accurate truths of sciencing. 
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Posted: 7/2/2015 12:33:21 PM EDT
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Quoted: This is my face when I see a picture of an AR laying on the ground with the magazine inserted, selector on fire. http://i57.tinypic.com/16k4yol.jpg I created a safe space for safe people and safe guns. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 12:38:56 PM EDT
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This is my face when I see a picture of an AR laying on the ground with the magazine inserted, selector on fire. http://i57.tinypic.com/16k4yol.jpg I created a safe space for safe people and safe guns. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1764370_A_tribute_to_shortness_and_safety___Gun_porn_thread_.html Nice! Finally an AR picture thread that I can enjoy. Hopefully no safety violators show up. Although, I do fully expect GSL to show up and take a huge dump in the middle of it. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 12:42:45 PM EDT
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Interesting. I wonder why so many armorers always want to store hammer down. Maybe they don't know how springs work? Honestly I expect it's just a "this is how we've always done it" type of thing. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 12:54:28 PM EDT
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Interesting. I wonder why so many armorers always want to store hammer down. Maybe they don't know how springs work? Honestly I expect it's just a "this is how we've always done it" type of thing. It is never too late, when walking down the wrong path, to turn around and go back the right way. We need to start this discussion with armorers. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 12:57:04 PM EDT
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Interesting. I wonder why so many armorers always want to store hammer down. Maybe they don't know how springs work? RiflemanWI should know. Hes one of them |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 1:07:39 PM EDT
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RiflemanWI should know. Hes one of them 
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Posted: 7/2/2015 1:08:14 PM EDT
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Letter to PS magazine
The TM for the M16/M4 family of weapons, TM 9-1005-319-10, describes the clearing procedures for the weapon to be used prior to cleaning, disassembly, transport or storage. 1. Point weapon in safe direction. Place selector lever on SAFE. If weapon is not cocked, lever can’t be pointed toward safe. 2. Remove cartridge magazine by depressing magazine catch button pulling cartridge magazine out of the weapon 3. To lock bolt open, pull charging handle rearward. Press bottom of bolt catch and allow bolt to move forward until it engages bolt catch. Return charging handle to the forward position. Check receiver and chamber to ensure these areas are clear of ammo. 4. With selector lever pointing towards SAFE, allow bolt to go forward by pressing upper portion of bolt catch. That’s it. However many armorers and commanders demand the step of physically dry firing the weapon as part the clearing procedure going against the technical manual. Doing so is unnecessary and unsafe. The M16/M4 has an extremely effective safety mechanism. Deliberately moving to fire and pulling the trigger in the name of safety is oxymoronic. Furthermore, there is no metallurgical reason to do so. The hammer spring remains under tension in either the cocked or fired position with little difference and modern springs are in no way weakened by remaining under tension. If you want a safe weapon, keep it on safe and don't pull the trigger. This is basic gun safety and IAW with the TM. Everyone should be informed of the proper standard and leaders at every level should enforce it. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 1:12:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/2/2015 1:24:15 PM EDT
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Letter to PS magazine The TM for the M16/M4 family of weapons, TM 9-1005-319-10, describes the clearing procedures for the weapon to be used prior to cleaning, disassembly, transport or storage. 1. Point weapon in safe direction. Place selector lever on SAFE. If weapon is not cocked, lever can’t be pointed toward safe. 2. Remove cartridge magazine by depressing magazine catch button pulling cartridge magazine out of the weapon 3. To lock bolt open, pull charging handle rearward. Press bottom of bolt catch and allow bolt to move forward until it engages bolt catch. Return charging handle to the forward position. Check receiver and chamber to ensure these areas are clear of ammo. 4. With selector lever pointing towards SAFE, allow bolt to go forward by pressing upper portion of bolt catch. That’s it. However many armorers and commanders demand the step of physically dry firing the weapon as part the clearing procedure going against the technical manual. Doing so is unnecessary and unsafe. The M16/M4 has an extremely effective safety mechanism. Deliberately moving to fire and pulling the trigger in the name of safety is oxymoronic. Furthermore, there is no metallurgical reason to do so. The hammer spring remains under tension in either the cocked or fired position with little difference and modern springs are in no way weakened by remaining under tension. If you want a safe weapon, keep it on safe and don't pull the trigger. This is basic gun safety and IAW with the TM. Everyone should be informed of the proper standard and leaders at every level should enforce it. If you get published in PS magazine, you get a coin from MSG Halfmast.
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Posted: 7/2/2015 1:26:22 PM EDT
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Letter to PS magazine The TM for the M16/M4 family of weapons, TM 9-1005-319-10, describes the clearing procedures for the weapon to be used prior to cleaning, disassembly, transport or storage. 1. Point weapon in safe direction. Place selector lever on SAFE. If weapon is not cocked, lever can’t be pointed toward safe. 2. Remove cartridge magazine by depressing magazine catch button pulling cartridge magazine out of the weapon 3. To lock bolt open, pull charging handle rearward. Press bottom of bolt catch and allow bolt to move forward until it engages bolt catch. Return charging handle to the forward position. Check receiver and chamber to ensure these areas are clear of ammo. 4. With selector lever pointing towards SAFE, allow bolt to go forward by pressing upper portion of bolt catch. That’s it. However many armorers and commanders demand the step of physically dry firing the weapon as part the clearing procedure going against the technical manual. Doing so is unnecessary and unsafe. The M16/M4 has an extremely effective safety mechanism. Deliberately moving to fire and pulling the trigger in the name of safety is oxymoronic. Furthermore, there is no metallurgical reason to do so. The hammer spring remains under tension in either the cocked or fired position with little difference and modern springs are in no way weakened by remaining under tension. If you want a safe weapon, keep it on safe and don't pull the trigger. This is basic gun safety and IAW with the TM. Everyone should be informed of the proper standard and leaders at every level should enforce it. If you get published in PS magazine, you get a coin from MSG Halfmast. I'll count that as my retirement award. You have been in, haven't you? |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 1:40:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/2/2015 1:41:06 PM EDT
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I'll count that as my retirement award. You have been in, haven't you? 
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Posted: 7/2/2015 1:44:19 PM EDT
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I typically like to leave all my weapons on fire with a round in the chamber. I also tie some string around the trigger so I know it is loaded.
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Posted: 7/2/2015 1:47:09 PM EDT
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Why is the hammer down? You should pull the bolt to the rear with the weapon on safe to ensure it is not loaded. People who store their ARs hammer down, don't understand how springs work. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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But what if the mag is empty or there is no round chambered?  On safe. What if the hammer is down? Why is the hammer down? You should pull the bolt to the rear with the weapon on safe to ensure it is not loaded. People who store their ARs hammer down, don't understand how springs work. You know there's no bullet in the chamber if the hammer hasnt been cocked professor. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 1:49:09 PM EDT
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But what if the mag is empty or there is no round chambered? On safe. What if the hammer is down? Why is the hammer down? You should pull the bolt to the rear with the weapon on safe to ensure it is not loaded. People who store their ARs hammer down, don't understand how springs work. You know there's no bullet in the chamber if the hammer hasnt been cocked professor. likewise if you look in the chamber, you'll know just as well without the foolishness of pulling the trigger. but getting in the habit of pulling the trigger when you don't want to fire the weapon might appear, prima facie, a bit silly. wouldn't it? |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 1:56:56 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/2/2015 2:09:56 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/2/2015 2:24:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Magnets. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You know there's no bullet in the chamber if the hammer hasnt been cocked professor. Magnets.
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Posted: 7/2/2015 7:34:18 PM EDT
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Bold- My BIL has a Remington 722 .243 bolt action. After hunting we went into the house. He actually broke a "house" rule right then. Clear weapons outdoors. His dad reminded him of that a couple of times later that night.  He dropped the magazine, cycled the bolt back, glanced at the chamber, closed the bolt, pointed at the top of a window and pulled the trigger.
BOOM!  It was so freakin' loud! He glanced at me and mouthed the words, "I looked." He probably said the words but all I was hearing was a high-pitched, "WEEEEEEE."  He pulled the bolt back and a newly-expended casing popped smartly out. It now sits on that window-sill.
I don't know if it was drilled into me from my old Army days but I always (unless the bore is scorching hot,) look & then feel the chamber with a pinkie. Might not be a "rule" but that's how I ensure that a weapon is 100% unloaded. If you don't employ this method PLEASE make sure you really look at the chamber and not just glance. 
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Posted: 7/2/2015 8:11:28 PM EDT
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I typically like to leave all my weapons on fire with a round in the chamber. I also tie some string around the trigger so I know it is loaded. I'm looking at the results from your urinalysis test, and it has came back positive for edginess. I would love to meet you in person, and inspect all of your weapons. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 8:13:36 PM EDT
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You know there's no bullet in the chamber if the hammer hasnt been cocked professor. "Knowing" the condition of a weapon's chamber without inspecting it is complacent behavior. Let's start handling our weapons safely and professionally from now on. You're welcome. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 8:25:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You know there's no bullet in the chamber if the hammer hasnt been cocked professor. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: But what if the mag is empty or there is no round chambered? On safe. What if the hammer is down? Why is the hammer down? You should pull the bolt to the rear with the weapon on safe to ensure it is not loaded. People who store their ARs hammer down, don't understand how springs work. You know there's no bullet in the chamber if the hammer hasnt been cocked professor. |
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