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Posted: 7/31/2016 3:00:35 PM EDT
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Why does the 1% want to disarm the 99%? 
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Posted: 7/31/2016 3:01:57 PM EDT
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Fuck those progressive elite assholes. Those progressives are the biggest enemies to our way of life. They sit back in their make believe luxury world, insulated from reality and think they know what is good for you and me.
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Posted: 7/31/2016 3:11:38 PM EDT
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It is representative of about 5% of billionaires. It is representative of about 1 millionth% of the 1%. When someone says "why does the 1% what to...." This is not the place where such a statement has any meaning. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why does the 1% want to disarm the 99%? In the U.S, there are over 3 million people in the 1% and over 500 billionaires. 28 turds in the punch bowl is not representative of the 1%. That's a lot of fucking turds in one punch bowl. Isn't it pretty much punch in the turd bowl at that point? Is there even any room left for punch? It is representative of about 5% of billionaires. It is representative of about 1 millionth% of the 1%. When someone says "why does the 1% what to...." This is not the place where such a statement has any meaning. This article from Jews for the preservation of firearms stated there are 397 billionaires in 2011. http://jpfo.org/kirby/kirby-billionaires.htm |
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Posted: 7/31/2016 3:17:09 PM EDT
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According to another thread, we're not allowed to question folks that have a higher net worth than us. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I am not questioning them becuase I couldn't possibly care less about what they have to say. They can all kiss my well armed ass. |
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Posted: 7/31/2016 3:17:24 PM EDT
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Why does the 1% want to disarm the 99%? LOL, study history. They always have. Elites just being elites. We used to call them Lords n ladies now it's just billionaire. |
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Posted: 7/31/2016 3:27:23 PM EDT
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So does that article state that 28 billionaires want to provide a private security detail for each and every person in the United States?
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Posted: 7/31/2016 3:28:56 PM EDT
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I want all 28 of those billionaires to go visit the closest branch of my local bank to make a cash deposit or withdrawal, after dark (without their security detail).
Hell, I would settle for them going to the local Lowes and buying something any time of the day, or go wash their car. |
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Posted: 7/31/2016 3:37:29 PM EDT
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So does that article state that 28 billionaires want to provide a private security detail for each and every person in the United States? No but this article has an interesting quote from the owner of a security company that specializes in celebrities "I think we're in a dangerous time" http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/hollywoods-bodyguards-inside-world-celebrity-security-detail/story?id=18567443 |
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Posted: 7/31/2016 3:38:15 PM EDT
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I wonder why they want us disarmed so badly  So they can take what little we have. |
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Posted: 7/31/2016 3:40:19 PM EDT
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They got theirs and don't want you to be able to.
Trump got his and wants you to be able to do the same. |
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Posted: 7/31/2016 3:41:55 PM EDT
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I wonder why they want us disarmed so badly Aristocrats prefer unarmed peasants. Yup. Control, pure and simple. |
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Posted: 7/31/2016 3:46:04 PM EDT
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So they can take what little we have. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I wonder why they want us disarmed so badly So they can take what little we have. They'll have to get it from my ex-wife  Unless they want my  image upload no limit
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Posted: 7/31/2016 3:48:17 PM EDT
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He is simply pulling the ladder up behind him...........you peasants should all know better.
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Posted: 7/31/2016 3:58:50 PM EDT
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Mark Cuban thinking he is important and that the rich should dictate to the peasants.
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Posted: 7/31/2016 4:02:50 PM EDT
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Oh look, twenty eight people to whom the laws do not apply want new laws and for us to vote for the bitch who will let them keep manipulating the system.
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Posted: 7/31/2016 4:05:10 PM EDT
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Bullshit!!! Primaries are one thing, but most orthodox Jews vote Democrat in the general elections, just like the non-orthodox Jews. It's a crazy paradox when you think about it, a lot like the Catholics who vote Democrat, even thought their religion says that abortion is a mortal sin (which should mean that voting for abortion is also a mortal sin). That just shows you how fucked up the Republicans are. You have one religion known for having wealthy businessmen for members, and another for being mostly conservative in views, and they manage to alienate large segments of both. And you aren't voting for abortion. That is fucking stupid as shit. Mortal sin doesn't work that way. Furthermore, why do we still have abortion if we had Regan, Bush I, Bush II in office? Oh wait, because the president CAN'T END ABORTION. You think Trump will do ANYTHING against abortion? HAHAHAHA. I bet $20 some offspring of his has been aborted in the past. Meanwhile, Jews, Catholics, and other Christians are voting Democrat because the Republicans have failed to put up a viable candidate. They are also turned off by the Republicans and their stances on social issues. They will hold their nose and vote HC and you have no one to blame but them. I hope they learn their lessons. Abandon all the Evangelical based BS, forget about the social causes and focus on important shit. But probably not. |
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Posted: 7/31/2016 4:06:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/31/2016 4:06:35 PM EDT
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You'd think after the IRS tried to rape him, he'd have some fucking common sense. Being and ally of the next PotUS is pretty fucking smart in my book. |
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Posted: 7/31/2016 4:16:25 PM EDT
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Why does the 1% want to disarm the 99%? Revolution chaos always culls some of the rich. |
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Posted: 7/31/2016 4:17:33 PM EDT
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How many of them have body guards / security?
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Posted: 7/31/2016 4:22:15 PM EDT
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That just shows you how fucked up the Republicans are. You have one religion known for having wealthy businessmen for members, and another for being mostly conservative in views, and they manage to alienate large segments of both. And you aren't voting for abortion. That is fucking stupid as shit. Mortal sin doesn't work that way. Furthermore, why do we still have abortion if we had Regan, Bush I, Bush II in office? Oh wait, because the president CAN'T END ABORTION. You think Trump will do ANYTHING against abortion? HAHAHAHA. I bet $20 some offspring of his has been aborted in the past. Meanwhile, Jews, Catholics, and other Christians are voting Democrat because the Republicans have failed to put up a viable candidate. They are also turned off by the Republicans and their stances on social issues. They will hold their nose and vote HC and you have no one to blame but them. I hope they learn their lessons. Abandon all the Evangelical based BS, forget about the social causes and focus on important shit. But probably not. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bullshit!!! Primaries are one thing, but most orthodox Jews vote Democrat in the general elections, just like the non-orthodox Jews. It's a crazy paradox when you think about it, a lot like the Catholics who vote Democrat, even thought their religion says that abortion is a mortal sin (which should mean that voting for abortion is also a mortal sin). That just shows you how fucked up the Republicans are. You have one religion known for having wealthy businessmen for members, and another for being mostly conservative in views, and they manage to alienate large segments of both. And you aren't voting for abortion. That is fucking stupid as shit. Mortal sin doesn't work that way. Furthermore, why do we still have abortion if we had Regan, Bush I, Bush II in office? Oh wait, because the president CAN'T END ABORTION. You think Trump will do ANYTHING against abortion? HAHAHAHA. I bet $20 some offspring of his has been aborted in the past. Meanwhile, Jews, Catholics, and other Christians are voting Democrat because the Republicans have failed to put up a viable candidate. They are also turned off by the Republicans and their stances on social issues. They will hold their nose and vote HC and you have no one to blame but them. I hope they learn their lessons. Abandon all the Evangelical based BS, forget about the social causes and focus on important shit. But probably not. WTF? Where did I say that the President can end abortion?  You seriously need help with your reading comprehension. Many Catholics voted for for the Democrats in Congress, even though those Dems support abortion rights (abortion is a mortal sin). Many Catholics voted for the Presidents who appointed the Supreme Court justices who ruled on abortion rights. And don't get me wrong, I'm not against abortion; there are too many stupid people on this planet already. I'm just pointing out their hypocrisy. You can't vote for someone who supports the right to murder unborn babies, and then claim that you aren't responsible for it.
But as defensive as you are, it sounds like you voted for some Democrats. Nice job; I hope you are proud of the mess you helped create. |
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Posted: 7/31/2016 4:27:11 PM EDT
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Why does the 1% want to disarm the 99%? Think about the reasons why the 2nd is important. None of those things apply to them. |
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Posted: 7/31/2016 4:31:54 PM EDT
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Probably in Clinton's pockets.
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Posted: 7/31/2016 4:45:44 PM EDT
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Think about the reasons why the 2nd is important. None of those things apply to them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why does the 1% want to disarm the 99%? Think about the reasons why the 2nd is important. None of those things apply to them. And the left can't see a problem with it. Have they ever considered they may not always be in control ? Payback could be an awful shock to them....as the worm turns. |
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Posted: 7/31/2016 5:12:17 PM EDT
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WTF? Where did I say that the President can end abortion? You seriously need help with your reading comprehension. Many Catholics voted for for the Democrats in Congress, even though those Dems support abortion rights (abortion is a mortal sin). Many Catholics voted for the Presidents who appointed the Supreme Court justices who ruled on abortion rights. And don't get me wrong, I'm not against abortion; there are too many stupid people on this planet already. I'm just pointing out their hypocrisy. You can't vote for someone who supports the right to murder unborn babies, and then claim that you aren't responsible for it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bullshit!!! Primaries are one thing, but most orthodox Jews vote Democrat in the general elections, just like the non-orthodox Jews. It's a crazy paradox when you think about it, a lot like the Catholics who vote Democrat, even thought their religion says that abortion is a mortal sin (which should mean that voting for abortion is also a mortal sin). That just shows you how fucked up the Republicans are. You have one religion known for having wealthy businessmen for members, and another for being mostly conservative in views, and they manage to alienate large segments of both. And you aren't voting for abortion. That is fucking stupid as shit. Mortal sin doesn't work that way. Furthermore, why do we still have abortion if we had Regan, Bush I, Bush II in office? Oh wait, because the president CAN'T END ABORTION. You think Trump will do ANYTHING against abortion? HAHAHAHA. I bet $20 some offspring of his has been aborted in the past. Meanwhile, Jews, Catholics, and other Christians are voting Democrat because the Republicans have failed to put up a viable candidate. They are also turned off by the Republicans and their stances on social issues. They will hold their nose and vote HC and you have no one to blame but them. I hope they learn their lessons. Abandon all the Evangelical based BS, forget about the social causes and focus on important shit. But probably not. WTF? Where did I say that the President can end abortion? You seriously need help with your reading comprehension. Many Catholics voted for for the Democrats in Congress, even though those Dems support abortion rights (abortion is a mortal sin). Many Catholics voted for the Presidents who appointed the Supreme Court justices who ruled on abortion rights. And don't get me wrong, I'm not against abortion; there are too many stupid people on this planet already. I'm just pointing out their hypocrisy. You can't vote for someone who supports the right to murder unborn babies, and then claim that you aren't responsible for it. We are talking about the presidential election, so sorry if I focused on that. And thanks for backing up my point that the President can't end abortion. Congress could maybe end it - but how many years in the last 20 years have the Republicans been in control and still not managed to pass a bill banning it? They won't. They can't. So don't be voting based just on Abortion unless you just want to be let down. And based on your logic, since the Republicans have failed to stop abortion, aren't you just as responsible for abortion then? All evil needs to succeed is for good men to do nothing, right? Also, you are ignoring the 1001 other issues out there. Maybe Catholics and Christians see more good with some of the Democrat social programs, such as health care, caring for those kids that weren't aborted, and empathy with illegals just trying to make it instead of being demonized (most of whom are Catholic Christians). So it isn't as black and white as you see it. Want to win elections, put up winnable candidates with winnable platforms based on factual data and not feels. Quoted:
But as defensive as you are, it sounds like you voted for some Democrats. Nice job; I hope you are proud of the mess you helped create. WTF? Where did I say that? You seriously need help with your reading comprehension.
HAHAHA - man the irony so sweet I might get diabetes. No, I am trying to enlighten you on why people are voting Democrats. Life long Republicans are tired of the parody the party has become and frustrated they can't even make a party vote to oppose the lease electable Democrat in my memory. And for the record, I have never voted for a democrat. |
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Posted: 7/31/2016 6:52:18 PM EDT
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This article from Jews for the preservation of firearms stated there are 397 billionaires in 2011. http://jpfo.org/kirby/kirby-billionaires.htm Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why does the 1% want to disarm the 99%? In the U.S, there are over 3 million people in the 1% and over 500 billionaires. 28 turds in the punch bowl is not representative of the 1%. That's a lot of fucking turds in one punch bowl. Isn't it pretty much punch in the turd bowl at that point? Is there even any room left for punch? It is representative of about 5% of billionaires. It is representative of about 1 millionth% of the 1%. When someone says "why does the 1% what to...." This is not the place where such a statement has any meaning. This article from Jews for the preservation of firearms stated there are 397 billionaires in 2011. http://jpfo.org/kirby/kirby-billionaires.htm Forbes lists 540 current U.S. Billionaires. https://www.billionairemailinglist.com/billionaires-list.html It is a fair bet there are at least double that number. There are many people who's wealth is under the radar. The Forbes list is not gospel, it is just a best guess of who they know about. Anyways even using 397 instead of 500, it does not change the reality of my point by altering the % much. Which again, is, this is not a 1% vs the 99% issue. That is a flawed statement. This is a negligible % of the 1% and a very small % of billionaires. |
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Posted: 7/31/2016 6:57:27 PM EDT
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Today's Democratic party (and the Jews who support it) ARE Communists. They would implement full-blown Communism today if they thought they could get away with it. But they know that they need to do it incrementally, and Socialism is that stepping stone. I get that you believe that but it is an utterly false statement and you can not support it. You can find examples, even a disproportionate number of examples, but single data points against a count of millions does not prove your point. That is not how valid data sets work. |
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Posted: 7/31/2016 6:58:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: According to another thread, we're not allowed to question folks that have a higher net worth than us. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/31/2016 7:01:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/31/2016 7:06:28 PM EDT
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And I don't see that. The problem most of the right has with jews is their politics, not their faith. As a jew, I have rarely felt excluded by even the most far right groups, once they realize my politics are conservative. Reform judiasm is literally the green party at prayer. Conservative isn't much better. We are doing Numbers (as you know) and what does the female cantor (rabbi is gone) talk about? Feminism. I am reaching an existential point in my faith in that I either leave judiasm entirely or become orthodox which is not something my wife is comfortable with. Jews cannot lay blame upon western civilization for all its evils while absolving themselves for their open embrace of treasonous communism in the United States and western europe. Hitler found more support for his anti-jewish stance by focusing on their embracing of communism, not kosherut. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah, there are some answers for that. It is important to understand that Jews, even non orthodox Jews, are NOT a monolithic group. They are all over the political spectrum, even if most are somewhere on the left. First of all, the older ones do it out of habit. The progressive policies of the left from the first half of the 20th century are things many people agree with now and by today's standards would be more libertarian than what looks like today's left. Things like social freedom and keeping religion out of government is a pretty understandable position for Jews to take, especially in 1900-1960' America. There is also the concept of "I will pay the kings tax, because I will win anyways, as long as the king leaves me the hell alone." Jews are the wealthiest group in this country and one of the most educated. There is a belief that no matter what you are up against, you will rise up and still succeed. The point being, most would rather have silly economic policies, like the policies of the left (and many damned well know the folly of the lefts economic policies) if they can have freedom. The left has long been the party of social freedom. Another huge issue is the right is not welcoming at all. They have traditionally been flat out hostile and their membership reflects that. You dont have to believe that, but you do have to believe other people believe it. Again, the demographics of each party are pretty honest in terms of who is who. I personally feel that there is a slight trend away from the extreme left turn the left has taken by Jews but young Jews are eating the social justice stuff up. I dont have a great explanation for it. I have all the top Jewish credentials (ivy league, raised in liberal Jewish household, Jewish marriage....) but my folks walked away from it all and I was raised in a small redneck town and I have a lot of that in me. I also affiliate with the Orthodox. The non Orthodox see me as a kuckledragging backwards idiot. I am just fine with that. Unfortunately, much of the "right" insists on labeling me as well because I have some libertarian outliers and have the credentials of a liberal Jew. (really folks, the republican party sucks at welcoming people) I watch the Rubin report sometimes and he has made some interesting points about being a Democrat unhappy with the direction progressives have gone. I certainly see that in Jewish democrats over 40ish who are not in academia or government. Most Jews of that age or older have a pretty strong dislike for communism or totalitarianism . Most of them knew their grandparents or great grandparents that fled it. (the majority of Jews in the U.S. come from Tsarist Russia, the later Soviet Union and/or eastern block countries) They see some factions of the party moving toward that. There is also a distaste for the liberalism of blacks, which does not resemble the more libertarian liberalism of older Jews. BUT, younger Jews are really into the social justice stuff. I think it is understandable in the sense they were raised by liberals and this is where liberals are now. It is their cause. Having said that, while Jews may participate in such lunacy at a higher rate, for every Jew, there are 10 non Jews. It is today's counterculture and far from being exclusively Jewish. Again, as unpopular as it is to say in a place like this, one of the problems is the right is not very welcoming. Jews, and whole lot of other people, are not interested in social conservatism and the right can get pretty hostile against people with that stance. And I don't see that. The problem most of the right has with jews is their politics, not their faith. As a jew, I have rarely felt excluded by even the most far right groups, once they realize my politics are conservative. Reform judiasm is literally the green party at prayer. Conservative isn't much better. We are doing Numbers (as you know) and what does the female cantor (rabbi is gone) talk about? Feminism. I am reaching an existential point in my faith in that I either leave judiasm entirely or become orthodox which is not something my wife is comfortable with. Jews cannot lay blame upon western civilization for all its evils while absolving themselves for their open embrace of treasonous communism in the United States and western europe. Hitler found more support for his anti-jewish stance by focusing on their embracing of communism, not kosherut. You are from the Kansas City area? That is a rather Jew friendly area. (I have great grandparents OBM at buried Sheffield Cemetery) People in larger metros are going to have a different experience being a demographic outlier than someone like me who has a lot of experience in the rural south. I am not in any way doubting your experience. I am pointing out my experiences are different and I believe it is location based. I utterly agree with you about the reformed movement. It has evolved into the soap box for feminism. I cant take it. I have a hard time going to a simcha at such places. As for orthodoxy, you do not have to be orthodox to affiliate with orthodoxy. Chabad is partially dedicated to filling that role. They have all the good booze and parties as well. I also find those affiliated tend to be very liberty minded and often pro gun. I also maintain, that while Jewish factions historically embraced communism, most did not and few do today. Communism was worse to Jews than the Tsar and most Jews over say 40ish, realize that. I do worry about the generation coming up though. |
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Posted: 7/31/2016 7:08:15 PM EDT
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Forbes lists 540 current U.S. Billionaires. https://www.billionairemailinglist.com/billionaires-list.html It is a fair bet there are at least double that number. There are many people who's wealth is under the radar. The Forbes list is not gospel, it is just a best guess of who they know about. Anyways even using 397 instead of 500, it does not change the reality of my point by altering the % much. Which again, is, this is not a 1% vs the 99% issue. That is a flawed statement. This is a negligible % of the 1% and a very small % of billionaires. Wasn't dismissing your point, just trying to pin down the reason for the difference in numbers. The JPFO article was concerned about the remaining billionaires gun control positions being vague and hard for them to pin down. Warren Buffet got knocked down this year from his #3 spot and I know he supports Democrats but I don't know who the new #3 Amazon's Jeff Bezos supports or if he donates to gun control like Paul Allen or Bill Gates do. Hillary seems to have a tremendous amount of $ for her campaign and commercials at her disposal and she's scheduled to return to Hollywood next month to fundraise even more. |
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Posted: 7/31/2016 7:12:05 PM EDT
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Wasn't dismissing your point, just trying to pin down the reason for the difference in numbers. The JPFO article was concerned about the remaining billionaires gun control positions being vague and hard for them to pin down. Warren Buffet got knocked down this year from his #3 spot and I know he supports Democrats but I don't know who the new #3 Amazon's Jeff Bezos supports or if he donates to gun control like Paul Allen or Bill Gates do. Hillary seems to have a tremendous amount of $ for her campaign and commercials at her disposal and she's scheduled to return to Hollywood next month to fundraise even more. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Forbes lists 540 current U.S. Billionaires. https://www.billionairemailinglist.com/billionaires-list.html It is a fair bet there are at least double that number. There are many people who's wealth is under the radar. The Forbes list is not gospel, it is just a best guess of who they know about. Anyways even using 397 instead of 500, it does not change the reality of my point by altering the % much. Which again, is, this is not a 1% vs the 99% issue. That is a flawed statement. This is a negligible % of the 1% and a very small % of billionaires. Wasn't dismissing your point, just trying to pin down the reason for the difference in numbers. The JPFO article was concerned about the remaining billionaires gun control positions being vague and hard for them to pin down. Warren Buffet got knocked down this year from his #3 spot and I know he supports Democrats but I don't know who the new #3 Amazon's Jeff Bezos supports or if he donates to gun control like Paul Allen or Bill Gates do. Hillary seems to have a tremendous amount of $ for her campaign and commercials at her disposal and she's scheduled to return to Hollywood next month to fundraise even more. Warren Buffet will be a conservative if one gets elected. Some on each side are committed, no doubt but again, most have elastic public personas when it comes to their politics. |
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Posted: 7/31/2016 7:18:15 PM EDT
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Warren Buffet will be a conservative if one gets elected. Some on each side are committed, no doubt but again, most have elastic public personas when it comes to their politics. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Forbes lists 540 current U.S. Billionaires. https://www.billionairemailinglist.com/billionaires-list.html It is a fair bet there are at least double that number. There are many people who's wealth is under the radar. The Forbes list is not gospel, it is just a best guess of who they know about. Anyways even using 397 instead of 500, it does not change the reality of my point by altering the % much. Which again, is, this is not a 1% vs the 99% issue. That is a flawed statement. This is a negligible % of the 1% and a very small % of billionaires. Wasn't dismissing your point, just trying to pin down the reason for the difference in numbers. The JPFO article was concerned about the remaining billionaires gun control positions being vague and hard for them to pin down. Warren Buffet got knocked down this year from his #3 spot and I know he supports Democrats but I don't know who the new #3 Amazon's Jeff Bezos supports or if he donates to gun control like Paul Allen or Bill Gates do. Hillary seems to have a tremendous amount of $ for her campaign and commercials at her disposal and she's scheduled to return to Hollywood next month to fundraise even more. Warren Buffet will be a conservative if one gets elected. Some on each side are committed, no doubt but again, most have elastic public personas when it comes to their politics. So many billionaires are indifferent to the Second Amendment or politics in general but their primary concern is maintaining a good relationship with whoever holds power in government to protect their industry or finances? Also, do you know if Adelson holds a position on gun control? My understanding is he's a big financial supporter of conservatives. |
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Posted: 7/31/2016 7:31:26 PM EDT
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So many billionaires are indifferent to the Second Amendment or politics in general but their primary concern is maintaining a good relationship with whoever holds power in government to protect their industry or finances? Also, do you know if Adelson holds a position on gun control? My understanding is he's a big financial supporter of conservatives. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Forbes lists 540 current U.S. Billionaires. https://www.billionairemailinglist.com/billionaires-list.html It is a fair bet there are at least double that number. There are many people who's wealth is under the radar. The Forbes list is not gospel, it is just a best guess of who they know about. Anyways even using 397 instead of 500, it does not change the reality of my point by altering the % much. Which again, is, this is not a 1% vs the 99% issue. That is a flawed statement. This is a negligible % of the 1% and a very small % of billionaires. Wasn't dismissing your point, just trying to pin down the reason for the difference in numbers. The JPFO article was concerned about the remaining billionaires gun control positions being vague and hard for them to pin down. Warren Buffet got knocked down this year from his #3 spot and I know he supports Democrats but I don't know who the new #3 Amazon's Jeff Bezos supports or if he donates to gun control like Paul Allen or Bill Gates do. Hillary seems to have a tremendous amount of $ for her campaign and commercials at her disposal and she's scheduled to return to Hollywood next month to fundraise even more. Warren Buffet will be a conservative if one gets elected. Some on each side are committed, no doubt but again, most have elastic public personas when it comes to their politics. So many billionaires are indifferent to the Second Amendment or politics in general but their primary concern is maintaining a good relationship with whoever holds power in government to protect their industry or finances? Also, do you know if Adelson holds a position on gun control? My understanding is he's a big financial supporter of conservatives. I agree. They protect their interests and whims just like everyone else. I have no idea about Adelson's gun politics. He certainly has a history of being a republican. |
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Posted: 7/31/2016 7:47:50 PM EDT
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I don't see anything in that article about gun control, but it wouldn't surprise me. That guy is all over the place. He was willing to be VP for either Hillary or Don? However, politically, he's "fiercely independent", but would like to be a Republican if not for them being wrong on so many social issues?
He was happy about Trump entering the race even if he said the wrong things? Now, he's all in for Clinton. Sounds like he's bipolar over the stretch of a few months.
My wife and I were watching an old Shark Tank yesterday and there was a company that specialized in getting people out of parking tickets via a phone app. Cuban liked the idea because he likes "sticking it to the government." However, he'd like to be VP now. The only credit I'll give him is that he didn't immediately jump on the NBA forcing the sale of the LA Clippers when the old man started his racist comments. But, not to much credit, because he went silent when questioned about it. I agree the old man was racist, but I don't see how anyone can be forced to divest of any property based on something like that. |
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Posted: 7/31/2016 8:00:28 PM EDT
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Why does the 1% want to disarm the 99%? Revolution chaos always culls some of the rich. Sometime within the last couple years I read a story about wealthy people building hidden underground shelters. I believe the basic premise was that if the economy ever has a major collapse, people will blame the wealthy and I guess flood their neighborhoods with pitchforks and torches. |
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Posted: 7/31/2016 8:02:39 PM EDT
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Rich people suck.
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Posted: 7/31/2016 8:05:56 PM EDT
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Why does the 1% want to disarm the 99%? In the U.S, there are over 3 million people in the 1% and over 500 billionaires. 28 turds in the punch bowl is not representative of the 1%. 
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Posted: 7/31/2016 8:10:03 PM EDT
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Rich people suck. How about some rich people suck, just like every other social class produces ass holes. |
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Posted: 7/31/2016 8:12:14 PM EDT
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fuck them, fuck hrc and fuck that mark Cuban douche too
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Posted: 7/31/2016 8:13:52 PM EDT
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little known fact, Hitler had Germany's major industrialists, entrepreneurs, and millionaires on his side too. They actually thought that once he got to power they could control him. We all know how that turned out. Hillary is a progressive, Hillary is the flip side of a Fascist. Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky (for awhile at least), Mussolini, Hitler, the Perons, Pol Pot, Mao, etc. all lived like kings on the backs of the tyrannized proletariats.Such is the price of being a worker in a worker's paradise.
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Posted: 7/31/2016 8:22:43 PM EDT
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Mark Cuban also said this and I agree with it especially after the shit the GOPe pulled this year in fighting Trump and pushing their establishment candidates. "The Republican Party does everything possible to discourage leadership. They want dogma. They want conformity. They want to conserve their romanticized past. That's a shame. I wish they wanted to conserve the best of what America is today and find a leader that can take us to new places that make our future better." And after saying all that, he still votes for Hillary? He's full of shit. What he thinks is the "best of America", and what you do, are two very different things. That said, it's time for the right to shake off its adoration of the wealthy. Just because they have money, and you think hard work can vet you there too, doesn't mean they are "on your side". In fact, these days, most of the truely wealthy are flaming leftists who are intending to spend some portion of their spoils making sure you end up in prison. |
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Posted: 7/31/2016 8:25:17 PM EDT
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I bet all 28 have armed security.
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Posted: 7/31/2016 8:26:15 PM EDT
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Let me get this straight 28 billionaires want a known career criminal, known pathological liar, who sold technology to the Chinese that gave them the ability to shoot down our satellites, sold one fifth of the world's uranium to Russia, who runs a pay to play money laundering system for buying political favors under the guise of a charity that isn't the least bit charitable, who condemned American Citizens under her command to die while blaming a fraudulent video then denied it, who deliberately left State secrets on unsecure servers in a scheme to hide illegal activity from the public, and who stole her party's nomination to be POTUS?
I see 28 criminal billionaire ingrates that need to be investigated because only fellow criminal would possibly want her as POTUS! |
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Posted: 7/31/2016 8:26:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/31/2016 8:27:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/31/2016 8:30:03 PM EDT
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Mark Cuban - Born in Pittsburgh, owner Dallas Texas Mavericks.
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Posted: 7/31/2016 8:30:04 PM EDT
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It's because of 28 billionaires that support gun control that there are 300+ million firearms in the hands of the unwashed peasantry.
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Posted: 8/1/2016 7:55:05 AM EDT
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You are from the Kansas City area? That is a rather Jew friendly area. (I have great grandparents OBM at buried Sheffield Cemetery) People in larger metros are going to have a different experience being a demographic outlier than someone like me who has a lot of experience in the rural south. I am not in any way doubting your experience. I am pointing out my experiences are different and I believe it is location based. I utterly agree with you about the reformed movement. It has evolved into the soap box for feminism. I cant take it. I have a hard time going to a simcha at such places. As for orthodoxy, you do not have to be orthodox to affiliate with orthodoxy. Chabad is partially dedicated to filling that role. They have all the good booze and parties as well. I also find those affiliated tend to be very liberty minded and often pro gun. I also maintain, that while Jewish factions historically embraced communism, most did not and few do today. Communism was worse to Jews than the Tsar and most Jews over say 40ish, realize that. I do worry about the generation coming up though. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah, there are some answers for that. It is important to understand that Jews, even non orthodox Jews, are NOT a monolithic group. They are all over the political spectrum, even if most are somewhere on the left. First of all, the older ones do it out of habit. The progressive policies of the left from the first half of the 20th century are things many people agree with now and by today's standards would be more libertarian than what looks like today's left. Things like social freedom and keeping religion out of government is a pretty understandable position for Jews to take, especially in 1900-1960' America. There is also the concept of "I will pay the kings tax, because I will win anyways, as long as the king leaves me the hell alone." Jews are the wealthiest group in this country and one of the most educated. There is a belief that no matter what you are up against, you will rise up and still succeed. The point being, most would rather have silly economic policies, like the policies of the left (and many damned well know the folly of the lefts economic policies) if they can have freedom. The left has long been the party of social freedom. Another huge issue is the right is not welcoming at all. They have traditionally been flat out hostile and their membership reflects that. You dont have to believe that, but you do have to believe other people believe it. Again, the demographics of each party are pretty honest in terms of who is who. I personally feel that there is a slight trend away from the extreme left turn the left has taken by Jews but young Jews are eating the social justice stuff up. I dont have a great explanation for it. I have all the top Jewish credentials (ivy league, raised in liberal Jewish household, Jewish marriage....) but my folks walked away from it all and I was raised in a small redneck town and I have a lot of that in me. I also affiliate with the Orthodox. The non Orthodox see me as a kuckledragging backwards idiot. I am just fine with that. Unfortunately, much of the "right" insists on labeling me as well because I have some libertarian outliers and have the credentials of a liberal Jew. (really folks, the republican party sucks at welcoming people) I watch the Rubin report sometimes and he has made some interesting points about being a Democrat unhappy with the direction progressives have gone. I certainly see that in Jewish democrats over 40ish who are not in academia or government. Most Jews of that age or older have a pretty strong dislike for communism or totalitarianism . Most of them knew their grandparents or great grandparents that fled it. (the majority of Jews in the U.S. come from Tsarist Russia, the later Soviet Union and/or eastern block countries) They see some factions of the party moving toward that. There is also a distaste for the liberalism of blacks, which does not resemble the more libertarian liberalism of older Jews. BUT, younger Jews are really into the social justice stuff. I think it is understandable in the sense they were raised by liberals and this is where liberals are now. It is their cause. Having said that, while Jews may participate in such lunacy at a higher rate, for every Jew, there are 10 non Jews. It is today's counterculture and far from being exclusively Jewish. Again, as unpopular as it is to say in a place like this, one of the problems is the right is not very welcoming. Jews, and whole lot of other people, are not interested in social conservatism and the right can get pretty hostile against people with that stance. And I don't see that. The problem most of the right has with jews is their politics, not their faith. As a jew, I have rarely felt excluded by even the most far right groups, once they realize my politics are conservative. Reform judiasm is literally the green party at prayer. Conservative isn't much better. We are doing Numbers (as you know) and what does the female cantor (rabbi is gone) talk about? Feminism. I am reaching an existential point in my faith in that I either leave judiasm entirely or become orthodox which is not something my wife is comfortable with. Jews cannot lay blame upon western civilization for all its evils while absolving themselves for their open embrace of treasonous communism in the United States and western europe. Hitler found more support for his anti-jewish stance by focusing on their embracing of communism, not kosherut. You are from the Kansas City area? That is a rather Jew friendly area. (I have great grandparents OBM at buried Sheffield Cemetery) People in larger metros are going to have a different experience being a demographic outlier than someone like me who has a lot of experience in the rural south. I am not in any way doubting your experience. I am pointing out my experiences are different and I believe it is location based. I utterly agree with you about the reformed movement. It has evolved into the soap box for feminism. I cant take it. I have a hard time going to a simcha at such places. As for orthodoxy, you do not have to be orthodox to affiliate with orthodoxy. Chabad is partially dedicated to filling that role. They have all the good booze and parties as well. I also find those affiliated tend to be very liberty minded and often pro gun. I also maintain, that while Jewish factions historically embraced communism, most did not and few do today. Communism was worse to Jews than the Tsar and most Jews over say 40ish, realize that. I do worry about the generation coming up though. pick one. And yes, KC (Overland Park, but I am sure you assumed that) |
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Posted: 8/1/2016 7:59:01 AM EDT
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Why does the 1% want to disarm the 99%? Uh Because they have protection? walls, moats body guards ....mere serfs should ..well serf 
fuck him I vote he give 90% of his wealth to the cause 
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