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Posted: 11/2/2014 9:58:34 AM EDT
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OMG SHOULD WE HAVE THE SHOTGUN VS AR FOR HOME DEFENSE ARGUMENT AGAIN?!?!?!?! *fingers crossed* 
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Posted: 11/2/2014 10:14:02 AM EDT
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I'd like to see how it does through denim. In terms of penetration, I can tell you that in the case of coyote hunting, you are at a disadvantage if you're not using plated #4 buck. I'm sure plated buck performs better through denim also. |
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Posted: 11/2/2014 8:51:13 PM EDT
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I'd like to see how it does through denim. With almost anything else I'd say it wouldn't matter but heavy clothing might just make a difference in this case. I may retest with four layers of denim. |
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Posted: 11/2/2014 8:54:37 PM EDT
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Cloudy out this morning, wasn't it?
Edited to mention awesome video. Keep 'em coming. |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 4:01:01 PM EDT
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Cloudy out this morning, wasn't it?
Edited to mention awesome video. Keep 'em coming. This video was taken last week. I'll be posting another video tonight or tomorrow that was taken Sat. But yeah, beautiful weather lately. Thank you for the compliment. |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 4:15:12 PM EDT
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I have 4 buck in my shotgun with a Paradigm Gator Spreader muzzle brake and choke system.
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Posted: 11/3/2014 4:37:34 PM EDT
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It is my favorite deer load. 3" even better. If they made it, 3-1/2"  . Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It has been a proven deer load. Shot shells kill by multiple wound paths, not by lucky golden BBs hitting critical areas. This means pattern density is crucial, a few blue whistlers in an open pattern is far from ideal. Does this mean you would favor #4 buck or prefer something heavier? . 
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Posted: 11/3/2014 9:09:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It has been a proven deer load. Shot shells kill by multiple wound paths, not by lucky golden BBs hitting critical areas. This means pattern density is crucial, a few blue whistlers in an open pattern is far from ideal. Does this mean you would favor #4 buck or prefer something heavier? . http://simage1.sportsmansguide.com/adimgs/l/9/95688_ts.jpg |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 9:20:58 PM EDT
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Holy shit! 54 pellets is insane! What's the velocity?
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Posted: 11/3/2014 10:23:20 PM EDT
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I've said it before. If you don't think a shotgun is a viable and effective home defense weapon, than you don't know shit about shotguns. If you think your shotgun is superior to your AR for home defense, than you don't know shit about ARs. Shotgun threads around here always turn into TardCon. Well said. |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 10:33:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Holy shit! 54 pellets is insane! What's the velocity? |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 10:36:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've said it before. If you don't think a shotgun is a viable and effective home defense weapon, than you don't know shit about shotguns. If you think your shotgun is superior to your AR for home defense, than you don't know shit about ARs. Shotgun threads around here always turn into TardCon. I know a AR is better for humans,but history has shown living were I do I am far far more likely to use my HD gun on vermin than humans .A shotgun with #1 splits the difference nicely and makes hitting small scurrying creatures much easier than a rifle , and will work on a meth head burgler in a pinch |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 10:44:05 PM EDT
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+1 I know a AR is better for human,but history has shown living were I do I am far far more likely to use my HD gun on vermin than humans .A shotgun with #1 splits the difference nicely and makes hitting small scurrying creatures much easier than a rifle , and will work on a meth head burgler in a pinch Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've said it before. If you don't think a shotgun is a viable and effective home defense weapon, than you don't know shit about shotguns. If you think your shotgun is superior to your AR for home defense, than you don't know shit about ARs. Shotgun threads around here always turn into TardCon. Hence the OP made mention of those of us that grew up shooting and hunting with a shotgun is the reason a lot of us are very comfortable using one. And using one very well.
On the other hand it's very hard to argue about a lightweight short carbine with far less recoil loaded with 30 rounds of very fast moving 55 grain projectiles called bullets coming your way with a reload effort of just a mere movement away. Personally I would be very happy to have either if the shit hit the fan. |
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