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Posted: 10/16/2014 9:12:13 AM EDT
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This ebola episode has given us a fascinating view into how a large-scale mass hysteria episode can sweep through a whole fucking country.
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Posted: 10/16/2014 9:16:19 AM EDT
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Slightly off topic:
What is the percentage of the population is NOT contracting the disease? As poor as sanitation is in the African effected areas, how many are surviving without becoming infected? |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 9:20:26 AM EDT
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This ebola episode has given us a fascinating view into how a large-scale mass hysteria episode can sweep through a whole fucking country. Well we saw that with the whole Obongo "change" campaign. |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 9:31:27 AM EDT
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They had 20 cases total, and 8 deaths. If we stop our current outbreak at 2 then we're doing pretty well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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my only question is how did Nigeria contain it with just 8? They had 20 cases total, and 8 deaths. If we stop our current outbreak at 2 then we're doing pretty well. edit. |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 9:32:57 AM EDT
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Slightly off topic: What is the percentage of the population is NOT contracting the disease? As poor as sanitation is in the African effected areas, how many are surviving without becoming infected? perhaps there can be something said for living in a toilet when an epidemic arrives. |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 10:13:20 AM EDT
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Slightly off topic: What is the percentage of the population is NOT contracting the disease? As poor as sanitation is in the African effected areas, how many are surviving without becoming infected? 99.9% 4,249 reported cases in Liberia, with a total population of 4,294,000 CDC went on to assume a 2.5x under reporting factor in some of their projections. Using this more conservative value, 99.75% is uninfected. |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 11:56:59 AM EDT
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99.9% 4,249 reported cases in Liberia, with a total population of 4,294,000 CDC went on to assume a 2.5x under reporting factor in some of their projections. Using this more conservative value, 99.75% is uninfected. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Slightly off topic: What is the percentage of the population is NOT contracting the disease? As poor as sanitation is in the African effected areas, how many are surviving without becoming infected? 99.9% 4,249 reported cases in Liberia, with a total population of 4,294,000 CDC went on to assume a 2.5x under reporting factor in some of their projections. Using this more conservative value, 99.75% is uninfected. I think he is asking, "how many have natural immunity" Answer is: "we don't know". |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 12:02:57 PM EDT
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Dutch government gives off a negative travel advise for travel to Ebola effected regions of West Africa.
If you travel anyway you wont be able to get travel Insurance and the Dutch government wont be spending money on you or helping you get back. |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 12:07:32 PM EDT
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Dutch government gives off a negative travel advise for travel to Ebola effected regions of West Africa. If you travel anyway you wont be able to get travel Insurance and the Dutch government wont be spending money on you or helping you get back. I am okay with that unless you are there for Dutch approved medical assistance. |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 12:09:52 PM EDT
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Mission creep, National Guard to Liberia.
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Posted: 10/16/2014 1:47:38 PM EDT
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This ebola episode has given us a fascinating view into how a large-scale mass hysteria episode can sweep through a whole fucking country. yep. that is why a few of us have been trying to stop the conspiracy BS. |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 2:08:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/16/2014 2:12:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/16/2014 2:16:32 PM EDT
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Liberia seems to be tapering off within the limits of the data accuracy. |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 6:34:08 PM EDT
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I built a model for Guinea. The CDC didn't have anything listed for Guinea in the report that listed their modeling assumptions, so I cobbled together some infection numbers and adjusted the parameters of the CDC model until I got a reasonable fit. There is some interesting stuff in their model. For instance, I couldn't simply start with 485 cases in August and get a good fit working forward. So, I had to go much further back to get a smaller initial infected number and work forward from there. But, the model set up to only cover 300 days, and I'd have to make a lot of modifications to it to extend the Guinea projections beyond 11/22.
The two flat spots in the trend correlate to 80% and 60% containment, and the infection rate ramps up when the containment rate drops to 40%. 
Comparing Guinea to Liberia and Sierra Leone: 
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Posted: 10/16/2014 6:52:18 PM EDT
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Well we hit the 10k mark. That's 7k of deaths coming up. So in the next 2 to 4 weeks we will have 20k. Stopping it on Christmas is a pipe dream because like I posted people are unwitting accomplice in the spread of the virus, inflected or not. There are riots and other stuff in West Africa right now to help the spread of the virus.
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Posted: 10/16/2014 8:14:56 PM EDT
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Most of those deaths have already happened. Based on reported cases, there are less than 2,000 active cases at the moment.
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Posted: 10/16/2014 8:48:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Most of those deaths have already happened. Based on reported cases, there are less than 2,000 active cases at the moment. And that is where the real question comes in: Just how accurate are the WHO's figures? If you're an optimist, and assume that the official case/death totals are within 90% and they're only missing a few hundred cases in Liberia, then the epidemic is hitting a peak. It's still increasing, but the rate of increase is slowing based on the current numbers. If you're a pessimist, and assume there are thousands of uncounted cases and deaths in Liberia, then the epidemic is still expanding at an exponential rate and is completely out of control. Right now the news from the front lines seems to support the pessimists. Sierra Leone's rapid rise in confirmed cases over the past four weeks is especially worrisome. |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 9:11:05 PM EDT
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I was just pointing out a math problem.
If the odometer just rolled over the 10,000 total case mark, with an average of 12 days from the time of symptoms to death, you don't have 7,000 people who are about to die. ETA: Specifically with Sierra Leone, it could be an uptick in new cases, or it could be a controlled situation that's now accounting for a previous 33% under reporting, or it could be an uptick in new cases with xy% under reporting. |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 9:47:57 PM EDT
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If someone catches ebola, and survives. What is the expected quality of life. What are some examples of permanent changes/impairments/resulting effects for survivors?
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Posted: 10/16/2014 10:56:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/17/2014 12:26:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThe answer is yes. |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 12:42:23 AM EDT
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http://s21.postimg.org/z2qed5jqf/Capture.jpg Liberia seems to be tapering off within the limits of the data accuracy. a linear plot on logarithmic axes is still exponential. 
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Posted: 10/17/2014 12:43:52 AM EDT
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a linear plot on logarithmic axes is still exponential. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://s21.postimg.org/z2qed5jqf/Capture.jpg Liberia seems to be tapering off within the limits of the data accuracy. a linear plot on logarithmic axes is still exponential. I wouldn't know where to start . . . 
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Posted: 10/17/2014 2:11:13 AM EDT
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I wouldn't know where to start . . . Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://s21.postimg.org/z2qed5jqf/Capture.jpg Liberia seems to be tapering off within the limits of the data accuracy. a linear plot on logarithmic axes is still exponential. I wouldn't know where to start . . . thanks for the helpful comment. my mistake, but am pretty sure that a plot w/ a logarithmic y axis is still exponential, when rescaled to a linear y-axis. looked too quick @ the graph initially before posting. let me know if i am wrong, as math wasn't my undergrad major. 
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Posted: 10/17/2014 8:28:05 AM EDT
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Latest WHO update comes out later today. It will be interesting to see the numbers for the past week. If they are significantly above 1,000, then that's not good news. |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 8:42:39 AM EDT
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Latest WHO update comes out later today. It will be interesting to see the numbers for the past week. If they are significantly above 1,000, then that's not good news. Do you really expect anything other than "not good news"? Based on what? |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 10:22:13 AM EDT
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for the numbers guys, an interesting animated GIF. note the tipping point at 10/1. no wonder Twitter/FBook are used by advertisers & intelligence agencies.
A Month of #Ebola geotagged tweets: 
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Posted: 10/17/2014 11:25:24 AM EDT
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With no dispatcher, no police escort, and rudimentary protective gear, Mr. Kamara shunts his secondhand ambulance through the chaos of Monrovia, Liberia in a desperate effort stifle the ebola epidemic at its source. But the odds are only getting longer.
NYT Videographer Ben C. Solomon spent time with Kamara and shot this incredibly harrowing short about what it means to be a first responder in a third-world country at the center of a health disaster. Warning: The story and visuals will give you an incredible perspective on the ebola situation you probably haven't seen, but it's also emotionally disturbing and graphic. link for Information Control. |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 11:29:27 AM EDT
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for the numbers guys, an interesting animated GIF. note the tipping point at 10/1. no wonder Twitter/FBook are used by advertisers & intelligence agencies. A Month of #Ebola geotagged tweets: https://i.imgur.com/9rEZVhJ.gif does that mean that twitder has the 'bola? |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 11:49:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: With no dispatcher, no police escort, and rudimentary protective gear, Mr. Kamara shunts his secondhand ambulance through the chaos of Monrovia, Liberia in a desperate effort stifle the ebola epidemic at its source. But the odds are only getting longer. NYT Videographer Ben C. Solomon spent time with Kamara and shot this incredibly harrowing short about what it means to be a first responder in a third-world country at the center of a health disaster. Warning: The story and visuals will give you an incredible perspective on the ebola situation you probably haven't seen, but it's also emotionally disturbing and graphic. link for Information Control. |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 1:50:38 PM EDT
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Latest WHO report is up: However, it's pretty much useless as Liberia isn't reporting current data anymore. Which means they are so overwhelmed they can't even compile reports. Or, knowing the generally corrupt nature of the typical African kleptocracy, they are pretending the epidemic doesn't exist because it makes them look bad. |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 1:57:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you really expect anything other than "not good news"? Based on what? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Latest WHO update comes out later today. It will be interesting to see the numbers for the past week. If they are significantly above 1,000, then that's not good news. Do you really expect anything other than "not good news"? Based on what? For the past four weeks the number of new cases has hovered around 1,000 each week. While that is huge in context of other Ebola outbreaks it suggests the epidemic is starting to slow down -- assuming that number is accurate; Liberia isn't reporting complete case totals to the UN anymore. If the number was waaay above 1,000 even without Liberia's numbers, that means the epidemic is still racing along and doubling every month or so. Which is not good news. The totals for the past week came in at 840 new cases and 531 new deaths. But virtually all of those are from Sierra Leone and Guinea; the only way that number is accurate is if you assume Liberia truly has gone from reporting several hundred cases every week to almost nothing in less than a month. The real number is probably double that, meaning the epidemic is still expanding. |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 2:19:45 PM EDT
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Latest WHO report is up: http://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/10665/136645/1/roadmapupdate17Oct14_eng.pdf?ua=1 However, it's pretty much useless as Liberia isn't reporting current data anymore. Which means they are so overwhelmed they can't even compile reports. Or, knowing the generally corrupt nature of the typical African kleptocracy, they are pretending the epidemic doesn't exist because it makes them look bad. Liberia not reporting? Wheeeeeeeeee! |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 2:22:18 PM EDT
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does that mean that twitder has the 'bola? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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for the numbers guys, an interesting animated GIF. note the tipping point at 10/1. no wonder Twitter/FBook are used by advertisers & intelligence agencies. A Month of #Ebola geotagged tweets: https://i.imgur.com/9rEZVhJ.gif does that mean that twitder has the 'bola? If they find some correlation then WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!!!!! |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 2:26:16 PM EDT
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Latest WHO report is up: http://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/10665/136645/1/roadmapupdate17Oct14_eng.pdf?ua=1 However, it's pretty much useless as Liberia isn't reporting current data anymore. Which means they are so overwhelmed they can't even compile reports. Or, knowing the generally corrupt nature of the typical African kleptocracy, they are pretending the epidemic doesn't exist because it makes them look bad. Attrition rate for the healthcare workers? |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 2:27:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This ebola episode has given us a fascinating view into how a large-scale mass hysteria episode can sweep through a whole fucking country. Sigh, not really. Everyone knows more people die from the flu each year than will die from ebola. Everyone knows how it is transmitted and that the chances of anybody you know getting it is approaching 0% at the speed of light. I don't really see how hard it is to believe that people don't want blood gushing out of their assholes.
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Posted: 10/17/2014 2:32:07 PM EDT
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Latest WHO report is up: http://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/10665/136645/1/roadmapupdate17Oct14_eng.pdf?ua=1 However, it's pretty much useless as Liberia isn't reporting current data anymore. Which means they are so overwhelmed they can't even compile reports. Or, knowing the generally corrupt nature of the typical African kleptocracy, they are pretending the epidemic doesn't exist because it makes them look bad. Frustrating. That doesn't even begin to describe it. I don't think Liberia is anywhere near a number of new cases that renders them incapable of reporting. That they would just gave up on reporting is infuriating, given the US's huge commitment with troops. I doubt we ever came to an understanding of "standards for cooperation" with Liberia, which is a shame. It should have been made perfectly clear to them, crystal clear (if I may borrow the phrasing), that if they didn't adhere to expectations that we would yank our support and divert it to a country worth a damn. I guess POTUS just wants to be "perfectly clear" and "crystal clear" when he's talking down to us here in the US. Does Liberia have any clue what's in store for them? If they think this is bad, do they not realize what's around the corner? I hate to believe that they may think they can just deny this thing away. [/rant] |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 2:52:42 PM EDT
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Frustrating. That doesn't even begin to describe it. I don't think Liberia is anywhere near a number of new cases that renders them incapable of reporting. That they would just gave up on reporting is infuriating, given the US's huge commitment with troops. I doubt we ever came to an understanding of "standards for cooperation" with Liberia, which is a shame. It should have been made perfectly clear to them, crystal clear (if I may borrow the phrasing), that if they didn't adhere to expectations that we would yank our support and divert it to a country worth a damn. I guess POTUS just wants to be "perfectly clear" and "crystal clear" when he's talking down to us here in the US. Does Liberia have any clue what's in store for them? If they think this is bad, do they not realize what's around the corner? I hate to believe that they may think they can just deny this thing away. [/rant] Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Latest WHO report is up: http://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/10665/136645/1/roadmapupdate17Oct14_eng.pdf?ua=1 However, it's pretty much useless as Liberia isn't reporting current data anymore. Which means they are so overwhelmed they can't even compile reports. Or, knowing the generally corrupt nature of the typical African kleptocracy, they are pretending the epidemic doesn't exist because it makes them look bad. Frustrating. That doesn't even begin to describe it. I don't think Liberia is anywhere near a number of new cases that renders them incapable of reporting. That they would just gave up on reporting is infuriating, given the US's huge commitment with troops. I doubt we ever came to an understanding of "standards for cooperation" with Liberia, which is a shame. It should have been made perfectly clear to them, crystal clear (if I may borrow the phrasing), that if they didn't adhere to expectations that we would yank our support and divert it to a country worth a damn. I guess POTUS just wants to be "perfectly clear" and "crystal clear" when he's talking down to us here in the US. Does Liberia have any clue what's in store for them? If they think this is bad, do they not realize what's around the corner? I hate to believe that they may think they can just deny this thing away. [/rant] Wonder if they stopped reporting because they know help's coming and we want(need) to monitor it? |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 2:56:12 PM EDT
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If they find some correlation then WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!!!!! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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for the numbers guys, an interesting animated GIF. note the tipping point at 10/1. no wonder Twitter/FBook are used by advertisers & intelligence agencies. A Month of #Ebola geotagged tweets: https://i.imgur.com/9rEZVhJ.gif does that mean that twitder has the 'bola? If they find some correlation then WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!!!!! they'll call it the bloody crappening... |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 2:57:08 PM EDT
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they'll call it the bloody crappening... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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for the numbers guys, an interesting animated GIF. note the tipping point at 10/1. no wonder Twitter/FBook are used by advertisers & intelligence agencies. A Month of #Ebola geotagged tweets: https://i.imgur.com/9rEZVhJ.gif does that mean that twitder has the 'bola? If they find some correlation then WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!!!!! they'll call it the bloody crappening... ...a leak nobody wants. |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 3:01:04 PM EDT
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for the numbers guys, an interesting animated GIF. note the tipping point at 10/1. no wonder Twitter/FBook are used by advertisers & intelligence agencies. A Month of #Ebola geotagged tweets: https://i.imgur.com/9rEZVhJ.gif Alaska doesn't care about Ebola. |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 7:16:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Attrition rate for the healthcare workers? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Latest WHO report is up: http://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/10665/136645/1/roadmapupdate17Oct14_eng.pdf?ua=1 However, it's pretty much useless as Liberia isn't reporting current data anymore. Which means they are so overwhelmed they can't even compile reports. Or, knowing the generally corrupt nature of the typical African kleptocracy, they are pretending the epidemic doesn't exist because it makes them look bad. Attrition rate for the healthcare workers? That's probably a big factor, too. If so, then we might be looking at a complete collapse of the healthcare system in Liberia. |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 10:15:03 PM EDT
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This is Vandy, a 7 year old boy from Sierra Leon. He survived Ebola while living in a shithole, with little to no medical treatment... http://unsierraleone.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/vandy1.jpg?w=300&h=225 When you think Ebola might kill you here in America, think of little Vandy. The problem is little Vandy likely has some genetic immune memory of Ebola or similar virus whereas all the white folk in the U.S. do not. 
Vandy is fortunate that he can bathe in Ebola blood, eat Ebola blood sausage made from monkey blood, etc and not have a care in the world. 
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Posted: 10/17/2014 10:16:32 PM EDT
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This looks like the appropriate Ebola thread for this. I pulled up the CDC transmission model, and base lined it for the reported cases in Liberia and Sierra Leone as of 8/28. From there, I modeled out to 1/20/15, and was in good agreement with their 9/26 publication. The CDC also had an intervention model estimate for Liberia, which I also incorporated. I then shoe horned this intervention estimate into the Sierra Leone model since they didn't list anything in their 9/26 paper. The point of this exercise is to see how well prediction [one prediction] agrees with future case trends. I'll try to update this graph on a weekly basis. http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z362/0471861731/EbolaWestAfrica20141014_zps1ec0c523.jpg That would be really cool and interesting. Tag. |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 10:17:59 PM EDT
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The problem is little Vandy likely has some genetic immune memory of Ebola or similar virus whereas all the white folk in the U.S. do not.
Vandy is fortunate that he can bathe in Ebola blood, eat Ebola blood sausage made from monkey blood, etc and not have a care in the world. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This is Vandy, a 7 year old boy from Sierra Leon. He survived Ebola while living in a shithole, with little to no medical treatment... http://unsierraleone.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/vandy1.jpg?w=300&h=225 When you think Ebola might kill you here in America, think of little Vandy. The problem is little Vandy likely has some genetic immune memory of Ebola or similar virus whereas all the white folk in the U.S. do not.
Vandy is fortunate that he can bathe in Ebola blood, eat Ebola blood sausage made from monkey blood, etc and not have a care in the world. See how happy Vandy is after Dallas TX sucks him dry getting transfusions |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 10:18:28 PM EDT
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So, what do we do? Quarantine Dallas? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dallas Mayor: "There are two things that I harken back to this. The only way that we are going to beat this is person by person, moment by moment, detail by detail. We have those protocols in place, the city and county, working closely with the CDC and the hospital. The second is we want to minimize rumors and maximize facts. We want to deal with facts, not fear. And I continue to believe that while Dallas is anxious about this and with this news this morning, the anxiety level goes up a level, we are not fearful and I'm pleased and proud of the citizens that I talk to day in and day out knowing that there is hope if we take care and do what is right in these details. It may get worse before it gets better. But it will get better." Um, he's wrong. The way to beat this is through quarantine by zone. So, what do we do? Quarantine Dallas? Doesn't Texas always want to declare itself its own country? Maybe we should let them secede and seal the border. (j/k )
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Posted: 10/17/2014 10:28:24 PM EDT
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This ebola episode has given us a fascinating view into how a large-scale mass hysteria episode can sweep through a whole fucking country. We are nowhere near mass hysteria . . . yet. I do think we could get there if this spreads to 3 or 4 states. The masses are still going to work as usual and they're not emptying shelves at the grocery store. |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 10:30:15 PM EDT
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This is Vandy, a 7 year old boy from Sierra Leon. He survived Ebola while living in a shithole, with little to no medical treatment... http://unsierraleone.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/vandy1.jpg?w=300&h=225 When you think Ebola might kill you here in America, think of little Vandy. The problem is little Vandy likely has some genetic immune memory of Ebola or similar virus whereas all the white folk in the U.S. do not.
Vandy is fortunate that he can bathe in Ebola blood, eat Ebola blood sausage made from monkey blood, etc and not have a care in the world. See how happy Vandy is after Dallas TX sucks him dry getting transfusions [snort] "Won't somebody think of the children?" "That's brilliant! Their little bodies constantly churn out new cells. It's like a renewable resource, and all it takes to maintain it are hot dogs, chicken nuggets, and Go-gurt!" |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 10:38:35 PM EDT
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99.9% 4,249 reported cases in Liberia, with a total population of 4,294,000 CDC went on to assume a 2.5x under reporting factor in some of their projections. Using this more conservative value, 99.75% is uninfected. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Slightly off topic: What is the percentage of the population is NOT contracting the disease? As poor as sanitation is in the African effected areas, how many are surviving without becoming infected? 99.9% 4,249 reported cases in Liberia, with a total population of 4,294,000 CDC went on to assume a 2.5x under reporting factor in some of their projections. Using this more conservative value, 99.75% is uninfected. The problem is we don't know how many are having sub-clinical infections ie. they get infected but show no symptoms, or those that are showing very little symptoms. The only way to determine that is to do antibody studies after the fact. Once the epidemic is over, test a sample of 1,000 people who were in the hot zone but who never developed symptoms, and see what percentage have antibodies against Ebola. There are many good studies out there with similarly lethal viruses such as rabies showing people who have antibodies to the rabies virus but have never been vaccinated. It's mostly people that have close contact with wild animals such as trappers. |
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