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Posted: 9/23/2023 3:19:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: OlacAttack]
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MO, USA
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Posted: 9/23/2023 3:34:52 PM EDT
[#1]
I hope this is true — I have been delaying buying an RC2 for far too long but if these will be available “relatively soon” I don’t have a problem waiting much longer!
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Posted: 9/23/2023 3:55:37 PM EDT
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I bought an RC2 2 days ago.
 Considering asking SS to switch it. 
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USA
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Posted: 9/23/2023 3:59:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: OlacAttack]
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MyLittlePony: I hope this is true — I have been delaying buying an RC2 for far too long but if these will be available “relatively soon” I don’t have a problem waiting much longer! SS dealers are taking pre-orders |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 5:07:47 PM EDT
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It would be interesting to know more about it. The points they discuss on the images linked don’t cover sound, so this may be another louder suppressor with more flow.
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TN, USA
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Posted: 9/23/2023 5:25:51 PM EDT
[#5]
Take my money
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USA
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Posted: 9/23/2023 6:07:48 PM EDT
[#6]
MSRP of $1709. Ouch.
That’s KAC prices |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 6:17:42 PM EDT
[#7]
And still 17oz...
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Posted: 9/23/2023 6:19:30 PM EDT
[#8]
maybe the remaining RC2's will be super discounted and I can grab one for 7-8 hundo.
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Posted: 9/23/2023 6:19:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StrikeEagle15: MSRP of $1709. Ouch. That’s KAC prices Where'd you see the price? |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 6:38:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoody2shoez: Where'd you see the price? Maybe he got the dealer email? |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 7:30:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MRTEX: maybe the remaining RC2's will be super discounted and I can grab one for 7-8 hundo. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/23/2023 8:17:11 PM EDT
[#12]
Socom MD compatible
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Posted: 9/23/2023 8:58:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoody2shoez: And still 17oz... First thing I looked for. Uninspiring. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 9:40:29 PM EDT
[#14]
Let the speculation begin. Sounds like they are going the 3D route as well.
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:24:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LuckyDucky]
[#15]
There was a dealer somewhere that had a page up for $1385. I saw it on r/NFA
I'm interested in this. But between the Ventum, this, and ODB/WB, I'll just wait awhile. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:33:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1168RGR]
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Green0: It would be interesting to know more about it. The points they discuss on the images linked don’t cover sound, so this may be another louder suppressor with more flow. I think I remember seeing a patent drawing and it looking like a high flow design. Edit: Link |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:52:01 PM EDT
[#17]
SEVENTEEN OUNCES
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Posted: 9/23/2023 11:00:08 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By voodochild: Let the speculation begin. Sounds like they are going the 3D route as well. They are using some 3D parts and some conventionally manufactured parts to comprise the suppressor. |
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USA
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Posted: 9/23/2023 11:10:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brahmzy: SEVENTEEN OUNCES Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brahmzy: SEVENTEEN OUNCES Same as the RC2. Here is KAC's equivalent product: 5.56mm QDC/CRS-PRT Addition to Bare Muzzle: 5.67″ (14.41cm) Addition to QDC 3-prong FH: 4.15″ (10.55cm) Overall Length: 6.25″ (15.88cm) Weight: 19.2oz (545g) |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 11:22:05 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SSeric02: First thing I looked for. Uninspiring. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SSeric02: Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: And still 17oz... First thing I looked for. Uninspiring. |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 12:12:42 AM EDT
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For something that is most likely bomb proof I’d expect 17 ounces. The new Daniel defense offering is 22 for Pete sake.
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 9/24/2023 2:04:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By walldj45: I bought an RC2 2 days ago. Considering asking SS to switch it. LOL bought a 7.62 RC2 Mini this morning a couple hours before I read about RC3 on reddit... |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 7:29:05 AM EDT
[#23]
Seent these on reddit from the patent allegedly:
  
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Posted: 9/24/2023 7:31:00 AM EDT
[#24]
That baffle stack doesn’t look so different.
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Posted: 9/24/2023 8:03:10 AM EDT
[#25]
Guess I'll wait to revamp my suppressor lineup. Work is also looking for new cans, so maybe these will be considered
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Posted: 9/24/2023 8:52:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: That baffle stack doesn’t look so different. An effective ( both flash/sound signature and back pressure reduction wise ) flow through suppressor does not need to be very complicated to do both. |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 9:15:50 AM EDT
[#27]
The RC2 I tried was heavy, gassy and loud as fuck.
Looks like the RC3 is still heavy, will be less gassy and probably even louder. Meh… |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 9:36:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By triburst1: The RC2 I tried was heavy, gassy and loud as fuck. Looks like the RC3 is still heavy, will be less gassy and probably even louder. Meh… The host must have been grossly overgassed 
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LA, USA
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Posted: 9/24/2023 9:45:35 AM EDT
[#29]
I'll stick to huxwrx FLOW suppressors...
coming from someone who owns a RC2. It seems to me like huxwrx has the best flow-through design and everyone else is trying to get around the patent with inferior designs. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 9/24/2023 9:55:22 AM EDT
[#30]
“60% lower back pressure”
Yes! “Unmatched flash reduction” YES! “Extreme durability” YESSSS!!!!!!!! “SOCOM muzzle device compatible”
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USA
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Posted: 9/24/2023 9:58:46 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By triburst1: The RC2 I tried was heavy, gassy and loud as fuck. Looks like the RC3 is still heavy, will be less gassy and probably even louder. Meh… Was it using a Warcomp? That makes a tremendous difference. |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:14:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Subpar: Seent these on reddit from the patent allegedly: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/147863/51543D1D-87DA-4BA9-8BA9-156DD96A741D-2964488.jpghttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/147863/73FF4124-9A12-406B-99D0-094373602929-2964489.jpghttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/147863/C80E0532-2643-485D-87B6-ADCD86D67491-2964490.jpg Yeah, they added some accents, but the base images are from the patent drawings. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 9/24/2023 12:55:21 PM EDT
[#33]
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20230288162A1/en?assignee=SUREFIRE%2c+LLC&sort=new
Link to the 2nd patent associated with RC3. |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 1:22:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Green0]
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Evintos: https://patents.google.com/patent/US20230288162A1/en?assignee=SUREFIRE%2c+LLC&sort=new Link to the 2nd patent associated with RC3. The flash suppressor cap. They essentially add an annular groove, with tapered ID and OD walls, and use it to attemp to mitigate flash through the round drilled holes in the ring shaped groove. They do talk about supersonic gas exiting the cap. That implies some potentially loud muzzle exhaust gas. The flow through cans that achieve +-5% bolt speed have to evacuate gas about 4 times as fast as gas trap suppressors on bolt guns, and somewhere between two and four times gas evacuation speed, the noise generally seems to increase 4-8DB which is a significant amount. |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 3:29:42 PM EDT
[#35]
What’s wrong with the socom mount? I see lots of complaints about it. Is it because it’s proprietary?
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IN, USA
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Posted: 9/24/2023 3:57:31 PM EDT
[#36]
Expensive, mounts are out of stock frequently and for long periods, carbon fouling can make it really stuck to the point where a strap wrench or rubber mallet won't work and it has to be shot off.
Routine cleaning and application of a little anti seize paste would prevent most peoples' issues with it. |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 4:22:33 PM EDT
[#37]
I picked up my RC2 from jail a few days ago. This looks interesting but probably won't go crazy until it is accepted by a mil contract and then the cloning will commence.
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AL, USA
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Posted: 9/24/2023 4:28:41 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By triburst1: The RC2 I tried was heavy, gassy and loud as fuck. Looks like the RC3 is still heavy, will be less gassy and probably even louder. Meh… Lol, 10 internets to this man! |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 4:57:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Evintos: Expensive, mounts are out of stock frequently and for long periods, carbon fouling can make it really stuck to the point where a strap wrench or rubber mallet won't work and it has to be shot off. Routine cleaning and application of a little anti seize paste would prevent most peoples' issues with it. I see. Thank you. I had seen the carbon lock issues. I wonder how the Mil handles That? |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 5:23:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bradpierson26]
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GutWrench: What’s wrong with the socom mount? I see lots of complaints about it. Is it because it’s proprietary? Yes And heavy and not cheap And they won’t update the SF3P so it doesnt ping And is prone to getting stuck and SF’s advice is to “shoot it off” |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 9/24/2023 6:27:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: Yes And heavy and not cheap And they won’t update the SF3P so it doesnt ping And is prone to getting stuck and SF’s advice is to “shoot it off” Surefire probably has the shittiest mount available of any major suppressor manufacturer. At least I can’t think of anything worse off the top of my head. |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 9:35:38 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By peachy: Surefire probably has the shittiest mount available of any major suppressor manufacturer. At least I can’t think of anything worse off the top of my head. I thought it was ok, but i do see that it pushes the mount from one side, so its like a rigidly secured locking gate mount in that two diameters are required to keep alignment decent (that ring being the forward one). The locking gate mounts move and that generally keeps them from carbon binding. I do find it a little slow due to the need to spin the can up to 360 to find the notch. |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 10:00:19 PM EDT
[#43]
The Surefire is the way it is because it was designed for military contracts. They are more worried about the fan staying in than coming off. I was told once that one battalion once lost more than a dozen cans (KAC) in one deployment.
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Posted: 9/24/2023 10:12:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Green0]
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: The Surefire is the way it is because it was designed for military contracts. They are more worried about the fan staying in than coming off. I was told once that one battalion once lost more than a dozen cans (KAC) in one deployment. I could see a SR25 or M110 can popping off after inadvertently unlocking it (a ball detent), but I don’t think an NT4 would come off inadvertently the redundancy latch is weighted such that gravity keeps it ~ half locked if it is totally loose and free spinning, so long as the rifle is right side up (irons to the sky). They did have an M4 snap on (half girdle M4QD predecessor) that used the same M110 ball detent gate, and those probably popped off on a semi-regular basis. |
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MP, USA
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:26:48 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GutWrench: What’s wrong with the socom mount? I see lots of complaints about it. Is it because it’s proprietary? It lacks a full gas seal. I wish they’d stuck with the 212 design. |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:29:43 PM EDT
[#46]
I was specifically told that most incidents involved helicopters, and those guys were doing six rides many nights, 90 days straight. They use SF now. They also lost some M203s. Kids these days.
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:33:00 PM EDT
[#47]
The RC3 is what I was waiting for. I love my Surefire cans. I don’t have issues with the muzzle devices as long as I clean then before I shoot and apply Geissele Go Juice (yes it works, it never locks up on me. I no longer use anti-seize).
Looks like Surefire did what KAC did with their QDC cans. They added ports. I’m sure the geometry is more complicated than what the patent drawings tell. Will be interesting to see how it performs. I’m interested to learn how they 3D printed Inconel. That alone is a huge achievement and should give better durability than any 3D printed titanium or stainless steel cans. I’m glad they kept the weight the same. Surefire’s RC2 cans are just the right weight and length IMHO. They are not stupid heavy like the new B&T cans. More important, they will not spark like the titanium cans do (why OSS didn’t weld a 17-4 baffle or end cap up front I will never know on the Flow 762K Ti). Sweet. Now I know what I want for Christmas. Hopefully they have a 762 can soon as well. |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:36:50 PM EDT
[#48]
I’m excited for this. I can compare it to my many RC and RC2s I have.
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:39:55 PM EDT
[#49]
Just wait til we get news on specific agencies or units buying them and the clients will keep them OOS
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USA
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:40:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoshNC: It lacks a full gas seal. I wish they’d stuck with the 212 design. Only the Warcomps lack the Labyrinth Seals, and have holes instead. |
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