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Posted: 9/30/2020 10:39:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ivan1: I ordered a esstac triple ar mag front flap. Wheres the best place to get female buckles? I was about to list an Esstac triple mag placard today when I find it! |
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Posted: 9/30/2020 3:45:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ivan1]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nutro: I was about to list an Esstac triple mag placard today when I find it! @nutro $? I do have 3 carriers. |
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Posted: 10/2/2020 10:36:24 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/2/2020 10:58:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ecgRN: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/21318/5f773a6b3a10d473656081_jpg-1616155.JPG  With the magpuls do we leave the dust covers on or off when inserting in the pouches? I would think take them off but if they are stored for a long time I like to keep the covers on. I want magpul to be my go to but debating lancer or even d&h for this reason. Just something I thought about I'm setting up my carrier today and already have some Gen 3 mags with Tap ready to go. |
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Posted: 10/2/2020 11:03:14 AM EDT
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I've got freezer bags full of dust covers.
Don't see the need. Ever. |
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Posted: 10/2/2020 11:03:49 AM EDT
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Yea, I just throw them away.
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Posted: 10/2/2020 11:42:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bcauz3y: Yea, I just throw them away. This. I have a few lying around but the rest are trash |
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Posted: 10/2/2020 1:18:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ecgRN: I've got freezer bags full of dust covers. Don't see the need. Ever. I thought they helped prevent damage to the feed lips for long term storage? I definitely see how they would be a liability in chest rig or carrier though. I will be rocking TAP in these that I plan on swapping out with training mags and ammo when I train so they might stay loaded for a long time so I was curious. |
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Posted: 10/2/2020 1:40:43 PM EDT
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I think that was the intent, but I've got mags loaded for years and buddies with them loaded a lot longer. Never been an issue that I'm aware of.
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Posted: 10/2/2020 1:51:56 PM EDT
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Usgi mags are better.
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Posted: 10/2/2020 2:11:09 PM EDT
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All my loaded mags in ammo cans use the covers.
Ones in go bags, PCs and belts have no covers |
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Posted: 10/2/2020 2:21:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ivan1: Usgi mags are better. And there's that. |
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Posted: 10/2/2020 2:34:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/2/2020 3:12:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner01: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/Jennifer-Lawrence-ok-thumbs-up_zps5c0357b9_GIF-103.gif thefutureisnowoldman.gif  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/3/2020 9:12:55 AM EDT
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Fully loaded USGI mags can have their feed lips bend when dropped on hard surfaces. I’ve never had that issue with PMags.
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Posted: 10/3/2020 3:36:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PFran42: Fully loaded USGI mags can have their feed lips bend when dropped on hard surfaces. I’ve never had that issue with PMags. And here's where the thread goes off the rails in typical arf fashion. |
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Posted: 10/3/2020 4:31:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ivan1: Originally Posted By stoner01: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/Jennifer-Lawrence-ok-thumbs-up_zps5c0357b9_GIF-103.gif thefutureisnowoldman.gif /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/deOINby-52.gif  |
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Posted: 10/3/2020 4:55:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42: Fully loaded USGI mags can have their feed lips bend when dropped on hard surfaces. I’ve never had that issue with PMags. I think if theres enough force to bend the feed lips, the magpul isn’t going to be any better. |
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Posted: 10/4/2020 1:00:53 AM EDT
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So I got in two new carriers, a Shellback Banshee and Chase Tactical LOPC. I'm using large ESAPI plates I got from a Ceradyne Rep way back in the day, and on either carrier they are about 1-1.5 inches too long for the retention flap to fully engage the velcro. Since the Chase carrier has the flap engaging inside the plate pocket, I went with it for now.
 Attached FileCanted mag/radio pouch on the left, Esstac double mag kywi, ESEE 3 laced in behind, coyote pouch is a TQ and shears, QD tube adapter, and a GP pouch on the right for gloves, optics, etc. Source Rasor on the back. Weighs in 24lbs w/o water. Damn those old plates are heavy... I'm not too keen on the mesh cummerbund, but I haven't worn it much yet at all. I'll probably pick up the Chase cummerbund with the sewn in tubes here soon. I am looking for a pouch to replace the coyote one that I can at least fit some Quick Clot in as well. I only have 2 rows of webbing, so it needs to be narrow, like 3". |
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Posted: 10/4/2020 1:08:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Tomac]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MCR: So I got in two new carriers, a Shellback Banshee and Chase Tactical LOPC. I'm using large ESAPI plates I got from a Ceradyne Rep way back in the day, and on either carrier they are about 1-1.5 inches too long for the retention flap to fully engage the velcro. Since the Chase carrier has the flap engaging inside the plate pocket, I went with it for now. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/98686/20201003_214310_jpg-1619248.JPG Canted mag/radio pouch on the left, Esstac double mag kywi, ESEE 3 laced in behind, coyote pouch is a TQ and shears, QD tube adapter, and a GP pouch on the right for gloves, optics, etc. Source Rasor on the back. Weighs in 24lbs w/o water. Damn those old plates are heavy... I'm not too keen on the mesh cummerbund, but I haven't worn it much yet at all. I'll probably pick up the Chase cummerbund with the sewn in tubes here soon. I am looking for a pouch to replace the coyote one that I can at least fit some Quick Clot in as well. I only have 2 rows of webbing, so it needs to be narrow, like 3". Black or tan 4" wide acceptable?: Tomac |
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Posted: 10/4/2020 1:24:19 AM EDT
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Tomac,
Thanks, but any wider than 3" will get in the way of the QD. I may just have to settle for a TQ and shears since I have a full IFAK on my belt... |
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Posted: 10/4/2020 1:58:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Alien]
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tomac: Originally Posted By MCR: So I got in two new carriers, a Shellback Banshee and Chase Tactical LOPC. I'm using large ESAPI plates I got from a Ceradyne Rep way back in the day, and on either carrier they are about 1-1.5 inches too long for the retention flap to fully engage the velcro. Since the Chase carrier has the flap engaging inside the plate pocket, I went with it for now. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/98686/20201003_214310_jpg-1619248.JPG Canted mag/radio pouch on the left, Esstac double mag kywi, ESEE 3 laced in behind, coyote pouch is a TQ and shears, QD tube adapter, and a GP pouch on the right for gloves, optics, etc. Source Rasor on the back. Weighs in 24lbs w/o water. Damn those old plates are heavy... I'm not too keen on the mesh cummerbund, but I haven't worn it much yet at all. I'll probably pick up the Chase cummerbund with the sewn in tubes here soon. I am looking for a pouch to replace the coyote one that I can at least fit some Quick Clot in as well. I only have 2 rows of webbing, so it needs to be narrow, like 3". Black or tan 4" wide acceptable?: www.amazon.com/dp/B08BNJHD44 Tomac Originally Posted By MCR: Tomac, Thanks, but any wider than 3" will get in the way of the QD. I may just have to settle for a TQ and shears since I have a full IFAK on my belt... I removed the external tourniquet pouch by carefully cutting the threads and slicing off the bottom. It stuck out too far for my tastes with the dedicated TQ pouch, especially where I had it on my plate carrier (I didn't like my arm rubbing on it). I opted instead to put a TQ inside the pouch and I have another one in a mag pouch built into the cummerbund. I removed the tubes quick release adapter on that side of my carrier and was able to move the IFAK closer to the plate pouch though, so now so it wouldn't be as big a deal. I probably still wouldn't like it sticking out that far though. I have the following items in it: Shears Quickclot bandage Israeli bandage Recon Medical Tourniquet Chest seals Heavy duty nitrile gloves I'm probably forgetting something. I took the extra stuff that came with it and put it in my Camelbak Ambush as part of a secondary IFAK. I also superglued some velcro on it and threw on a subdued first aid patch. For what it's worth, the color is more of a "khaki" and is not coyote brown/tan. I plan to eventually replace it with an ITS Tallboy.  |
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Posted: 10/4/2020 5:39:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jkitchen: With the magpuls do we leave the dust covers on or off when inserting in the pouches? Have you tried it? I tested it out once and almost couldn't get the magazine back out of the pouch. |
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Posted: 10/4/2020 6:12:50 PM EDT
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Yeah. No covers while in mag pouches.
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Posted: 10/4/2020 7:15:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flpickupman: Yeah. No covers while in mag pouches. I've been running the same 6 pmags for several years in 2GUN without the covers. Never had an issue. |
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Posted: 10/4/2020 7:30:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alien: I got that same pouch and it's a good IFAK pouch. I believe it's only about 3-3.5 inches wide and only uses 2 columns of webbing. If you only have only 2 rows, you can still use the pouch. You just won't have it threaded through as many rows as normal (3). I'll dig out my plate carrier tomorrow and have a look. I removed the external tourniquet pouch by carefully cutting the threads and slicing off the bottom. It stuck out too far for my tastes with the dedicated TQ pouch, especially where I had it on my plate carrier (I didn't like my arm rubbing on it). I opted instead to put a TQ inside the pouch and I have another one in a mag pouch built into the cummerbund. I removed the tubes quick release adapter on that side of my carrier and was able to move the IFAK closer to the plate pouch though, so now so it wouldn't be as big a deal. I probably still wouldn't like it sticking out that far though. I have the following items in it: Shears Quickclot bandage Israeli bandage Recon Medical Tourniquet Chest seals Heavy duty nitrile gloves I'm probably forgetting something. I took the extra stuff that came with it and put it in my Camelbak Ambush as part of a secondary IFAK. I also superglued some velcro on it and threw on a subdued first aid patch. For what it's worth, the color is more of a "khaki" and is not coyote brown/tan. I plan to eventually replace it with an ITS Tallboy. https://i.imgur.com/wER4gcH.jpg?1 Columns vs. Rows, I should have been more specific. I have 2 columns of 3 rows available. Decided to go this route for now. I do like the rip away feature for med gear. My IFAK on my belt is an ITS tactical pouch with quick stix for a quick grab and go... |
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Posted: 10/4/2020 10:10:07 PM EDT
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If you can find room, this is a great pouch. Takes up about as much space as a mag pouch. Two webbing channels - 5" tall x 4" wide x 2.5" deep.
https://greyghostgear.com/collections/pouches/products/slim-medical-pouch   
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Posted: 10/4/2020 11:39:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CalGat]
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Anyone else see the new LA Police Gear plate carrier? JPC knock off, probably from China, but a good price for someone on a budget build.
https://lapolicegear.com/search-magic/?query=plate%20carrier |
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Posted: 10/5/2020 12:04:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CalGat: Anyone else see the new LA Police Gear plate carrier? JPC knock off, probably from China, but a good price for someone on a budget build. https://lapolicegear.com/search-magic/?query=plate%20carrier |
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Posted: 10/5/2020 9:43:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmateurLuthier: If you can find room, this is a great pouch. Takes up about as much space as a mag pouch. Two webbing channels - 5" tall x 4" wide x 2.5" deep. https://greyghostgear.com/collections/pouches/products/slim-medical-pouch https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1766/2543/products/slimmedical_1024x1024.jpg?v=1559664961 https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1766/2543/products/slimmedical6_1024x1024.jpg?v=1559664961 https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1766/2543/products/slimmedical1_1024x1024.jpg?v=1559664961 @AmateurLuthier I was looking at that one, but several reviews state that it is closer to 7" tall...just curious if you have hands on experience with it. I've got a direct line to GGG, so I may just snag one anyway... |
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Posted: 10/5/2020 9:54:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MCR: @AmateurLuthier I was looking at that one, but several reviews state that it is closer to 7" tall...just curious if you have hands on experience with it. I've got a direct line to GGG, so I may just snag one anyway... Actually, yes it is taller than 5" (I cut and pasted the dimensions without thinking). 7" is probably about right. I am very happy with mine. |
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Posted: 10/5/2020 4:21:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Tomac]
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Wasn't entirely happy w/my previous IFAK setup, it protruded too far off the front of my PC and I didn't feel the TQ was secure enough (not surprising for a radio pouch modded into an IFAK pouch).
After much experimentation, finally located a dedicated med pouch that suits my needs (except for being in black instead of OD  ).When finished, my minimalist PC has a multicurve III+ plate in front and a single-curve III+ plate in rear (both Battle Steel, go be rich somewhere else...  )With two Lancers loaded w/75gr OTM, total weight as shown is 14lbs 13oz. Tomac ETA: This pouch isn't available in my preferred OD, any suggestions for changing the pouch's color so there isn't quite so much contrast? (Rit dye? Rattle can? Something else?...) TIA!...  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/5/2020 8:35:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eagle34: Stoner01 covered most of it. The Esstac shingle attaches with ITW Nexus clips and has Velcro on the back. @Eagle34 Not to sound obtuse but I'm a total noob when it comes to this stuff. I was able to score a Slickster, plates are on order and the Esstac looks like what I need to hold mags. I googled ITW Nexus and they seem to have a lot of different products, Is this what your talking about?? Also, when ordering the Esstac do I leave the attachment type as "None" Thanks! |
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Posted: 10/5/2020 9:11:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joe_sun: @Eagle34 Not to sound obtuse but I'm a total noob when it comes to this stuff. I was able to score a Slickster, plates are on order and the Esstac looks like what I need to hold mags. I googled ITW Nexus and they seem to have a lot of different products, Is this what your talking about?? Also, when ordering the Esstac do I leave the attachment type as "None" Thanks! Where are you seeing an attachment option. The front panel section doesn't show that. If you are ordering individual mag pouches, don't, just order the front panel. |
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Posted: 10/5/2020 9:21:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner01: Where are you seeing an attachment option. The front panel section doesn't show that. If you are ordering individual mag pouches, don't, just order the front panel. Oh man, thank you. Yeah I was looking at the wrong thing. This is what I want? I see the buckles and it makes sense now. |
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Posted: 10/5/2020 10:10:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joe_sun: Oh man, thank you. Yeah I was looking at the wrong thing. This is what I want? I see the buckles and it makes sense now. Yup. |
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Posted: 10/6/2020 12:37:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tomac: Wasn't entirely happy w/my previous IFAK setup, it protruded too far off the front of my PC and I didn't feel the TQ was secure enough (not surprising for a radio pouch modded into an IFAK pouch). After much experimentation, finally located a dedicated med pouch that suits my needs (except for being in black instead of OD ).When finished, my minimalist PC has a multicurve III+ plate in front and a single-curve III+ plate in rear (both Battle Steel, go be rich somewhere else... )With two Lancers loaded w/75gr OTM, total weight as shown is 14lbs 13oz. Tomac ETA: This pouch isn't available in my preferred OD, any suggestions for changing the pouch's color so there isn't quite so much contrast? (Rit dye? Rattle can? Something else?...) TIA!... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1593/PA050002_JPG-1621447.JPG |
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Posted: 10/6/2020 10:03:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Firefighter503: Just hit it/dust it with some OD rattle can. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Firefighter503: Originally Posted By Tomac: Wasn't entirely happy w/my previous IFAK setup, it protruded too far off the front of my PC and I didn't feel the TQ was secure enough (not surprising for a radio pouch modded into an IFAK pouch). After much experimentation, finally located a dedicated med pouch that suits my needs (except for being in black instead of OD ).When finished, my minimalist PC has a multicurve III+ plate in front and a single-curve III+ plate in rear (both Battle Steel, go be rich somewhere else... )With two Lancers loaded w/75gr OTM, total weight as shown is 14lbs 13oz. Tomac ETA: This pouch isn't available in my preferred OD, any suggestions for changing the pouch's color so there isn't quite so much contrast? (Rit dye? Rattle can? Something else?...) TIA!... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1593/PA050002_JPG-1621447.JPG I’ve spray painted so many black pouches and holsters. |
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Posted: 10/7/2020 2:54:38 AM EDT
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For those of you who snagged the LBX-0300 in Caiman camo: the $30 Amazon tube conversion in Ranger Green is a perfect match.
Also, the mag carriers and blowout bag are available on eBay for $10-$12 each. Haven't messed with the bag but the mag pouches are quality. No hard liner, but they are stiff enough to retain the mag shape when you pull it out. That retention system is quick and secure. On the tube kit: do it! Makes removing the pc amazingly fast, easy, and at least 987% quieter. If nothing else, grab the amazon kit to make sure you like the system before investing in First Spear.. Cant speak to the longevity of the amazon stuff but the clips appear identical in design and function. 
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Posted: 10/7/2020 11:31:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigGulp: For those of you who snagged the LBX-0300 in Caiman camo: the $30 Amazon tube conversion in Ranger Green is a perfect match. Also, the mag carriers and blowout bag are available on eBay for $10-$12 each. Haven't messed with the bag but the mag pouches are quality. No hard liner, but they are stiff enough to retain the mag shape when you pull it out. That retention system is quick and secure. On the tube kit: do it! Makes removing the pc amazingly fast, easy, and at least 987% quieter. If nothing else, grab the amazon kit to make sure you like the system before investing in First Spear.. Cant speak to the longevity of the amazon stuff but the clips appear identical in design and function. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/158531/Screenshot_20201007-023203_Photo_Editor-1624310.jpg Thank you. 
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Posted: 10/7/2020 9:44:25 PM EDT
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Are level lll plates gtg for back plate?
Front is level lv. |
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Posted: 10/7/2020 10:05:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dogrobber13: Are level lll plates gtg for back plate? Front is level lv. Whatever threat you're protecting for on the front should be worn on your back too. |
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Posted: 10/8/2020 8:37:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Tomac]
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Firefighter503: Just hit it/dust it with some OD rattle can. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Firefighter503: Originally Posted By Tomac: Wasn't entirely happy w/my previous IFAK setup, it protruded too far off the front of my PC and I didn't feel the TQ was secure enough (not surprising for a radio pouch modded into an IFAK pouch). After much experimentation, finally located a dedicated med pouch that suits my needs (except for being in black instead of OD ).When finished, my minimalist PC has a multicurve III+ plate in front and a single-curve III+ plate in rear (both Battle Steel, go be rich somewhere else... )With two Lancers loaded w/75gr OTM, total weight as shown is 14lbs 13oz. Tomac ETA: This pouch isn't available in my preferred OD, any suggestions for changing the pouch's color so there isn't quite so much contrast? (Rit dye? Rattle can? Something else?...) TIA!... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1593/PA050002_JPG-1621447.JPG OCD finally paid off! Found an OD IFAK pouch that's functionally superior to any of the other pouches I've tried. ETA: New total weight as shown is 15lbs even. Tomac  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/8/2020 10:13:03 PM EDT
[#44]
Welp. You guys suck
I jumped on a JPC 2.0 MC Arid because I happened upon it and it was in stock... Then I had to get the front flap Now I just sprang for a set of 3810's. My current setup has Highcom 4sas7's in it and those suckers are like 8lbs each. A lighter weight carrier will be a great addition. Now that the major stuff is out of the way (I think), what do I need to round it out? I need an IFAK but I might put that on the belt setup. |
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Posted: 10/8/2020 10:31:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Notcalifornialegal]
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RJH1911: Welp. You guys suck I jumped on a JPC 2.0 MC Arid because I happened upon it and it was in stock... Then I had to get the front flap Now I just sprang for a set of 3810's. My current setup has Highcom 4sas7's in it and those suckers are like 8lbs each. A lighter weight carrier will be a great addition. Now that the major stuff is out of the way (I think), what do I need to round it out? I need an IFAK but I might put that on the belt setup. Comms should be at the top of your list with your IFAK, an extra flashlight, multitool, and mags. |
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Posted: 10/9/2020 2:02:54 PM EDT
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Does anyone have a link to the tube conversions mentioned on Amazon? I'm interested in trying them since they sound like they could be on the inexpensive/entry level side.
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Posted: 10/9/2020 2:20:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RJH1911: Welp. You guys suck I jumped on a JPC 2.0 MC Arid because I happened upon it and it was in stock... Then I had to get the front flap Now I just sprang for a set of 3810's. My current setup has Highcom 4sas7's in it and those suckers are like 8lbs each. A lighter weight carrier will be a great addition. Now that the major stuff is out of the way (I think), what do I need to round it out? I need an IFAK but I might put that on the belt setup. I have my carrier mostly slick aside from a mag in cummerbund - war belt has ifak, extra mags etc. What you need just depends on your intended use. I'd recommend as light, fast, and unencumbered as possible. |
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Posted: 10/9/2020 2:23:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArGyLe64: Does anyone have a link to the tube conversions mentioned on Amazon? I'm interested in trying them since they sound like they could be on the inexpensive/entry level side. Here ya go |
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Posted: 10/9/2020 4:28:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/9/2020 4:42:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309598/Q_RANGER_0000011_4_28_08_PM_png-1627951.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309598/Q_RANGER_0000011_4_28_08_PM_png-1627951.JPG I used these to convert my SKD PIG: https://shop.blazedefensesystems.com/shop/ols/products/bds-qr-tube-attachment-kit?olsFocus=false More pricey than Amazon, but appear well made & have good reviews. I haven’t had any issues but also haven’t really done anything major in my carrier. |
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