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Posted: 1/10/2024 11:28:58 PM EDT
If I made a black powder muzzleloader with a ported barrel, and I permanently welded one end cap at the muzzle end past the ports, and welded the other end cap close to the fore end, and made the can body such that it was captured between both end caps but could come apart for cleaning (while still captured), would the resulting integral silencer require a stamp as it was captured on a non firearm?
I know there was a bp rifle with a silencer permanent attached a few years ago, and no stamp was needed, but I don't think the silencer broke down for cleaning. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 1/10/2024 11:36:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: NAM]
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Maxim 50 is what you're thinking. Internals are stainless, but not user serviceable/able to be taken apart. I've flushed tge shit out of mine, and used foaming BP cleaner and it seemed to work.
Not sure if they would want the entire device "permanently attached". User serviceable would be nice, but with their latest game of "everything is a suppressor", they may consider the parts not permanently attached to be able to be used on a different firearm, and thus, not exempt. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SilencerCo_Maxim_50 |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 1/10/2024 11:41:36 PM EDT
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Thinking more about your idea (if I understand correctly), if the outer sleeve could be unscrewed towards the breech...i.e. removed from the baffle stack, but still retained on the barrel like a delta ring on an AR....you might just be OK.
Again, this is not legal advice, I am not a lawyer. |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 12:16:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NAM: Thinking more about your idea (if I understand correctly), if the outer sleeve could be unscrewed towards the breech...i.e. removed from the baffle stack, but still retained on the barrel like a delta ring on an AR....you might just be OK. Again, this is not legal advice, I am not a lawyer. @NAM Yes, I was thinking captured but collapsible. NO SOLVENT TRAP PARTS lol |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 12:42:12 AM EDT
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Weld an internally threaded end cap to the baffle stack; weld that to the muzzle. Externally thread the outer tube, making it removable. This way, it couldn't be used on another gun as a suppressor and would be easily cleaned. You can weld the end cap or thread it.
Of course, a baffle strike would be a pain in the ass to replace. |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 2:37:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: jos51700]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FB41: Of course, a baffle strike would be a pain in the ass to replace. This is why I want to place the suppressor over the barrel, not off the end. |
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Posted: 1/25/2024 12:33:19 AM EDT
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I am going to go against the grain her3 and say any sound suppressor regardless of vintage of gun or how it attaches is still a supressor so would be subject to NFA regulations
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Posted: 1/25/2024 12:23:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By captain127: I am going to go against the grain her3 and say any sound suppressor regardless of vintage of gun or how it attaches is still a supressor so would be subject to NFA regulations You'd be incorrect in at least one commercially available case. Search for the "Maxim 50" and you'll find more or less what the OP is describing. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 12:28:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Third_Rail: You'd be incorrect in at least one commercially available case. Search for the "Maxim 50" and you'll find more or less what the OP is describing. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Third_Rail: Originally Posted By captain127: I am going to go against the grain her3 and say any sound suppressor regardless of vintage of gun or how it attaches is still a supressor so would be subject to NFA regulations You'd be incorrect in at least one commercially available case. Search for the "Maxim 50" and you'll find more or less what the OP is describing. Wow learned something new! Thanks |
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