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Posted: 9/13/2023 9:48:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ProvenArmsOutfitters: Taking Pre orders now  Inventory scheduled for December arrival MCX-SURG Suppressed Upper Receiver Group ------------------------------------------------------------------------- https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/484674/Poven-Arms-Outfitters_Logo_RGB_AR15Avata-1416724.png Store Address: 9796 Aberdeen Rd, Aberdeen, NC 28315 Store Hours: Tuesday - Friday 11AM- 4PM Phone: 910.637.0500 Email: [email protected] LE/MIL Program Firearm Sales for Sig Sauer, IWI, Beretta, Smith & Wesson, Springfield Armory. MCX-SURG Suppressed Upper Receiver Group Friendly reminder that Pre-orders close 9/15 for December delivery. We are only requiring a 10% deposit to reserve yours since these are NFA items. Please let us know if you and any questions or can help in anyway. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 9/27/2023 9:12:05 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon: Correct. @coregon Since this is contract overrun will it have the auto parts installed in the upper to run auto on a transferable lower? |
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Posted: 11/28/2023 11:25:02 PM EDT
[#3]
I've heard they have been pushed back to late Jan, is that true?
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GA, USA
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Posted: 1/18/2024 7:28:22 PM EDT
[#4]
Orders should be arriving by the end of the month.
Anyone got more photos of the SURG in the wild? |
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Posted: 3/2/2024 7:14:05 PM EDT
[#5]
Any update on a shipping date?
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GA, USA
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Posted: 3/4/2024 3:14:23 AM EDT
[#6]
My dealer mentioned they may be arriving this week. I tried contacting Sig directly, but no dice.
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Posted: 3/7/2024 1:30:34 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Miredmire: My dealer mentioned they may be arriving this week. I tried contacting Sig directly, but no dice. im on the borderline of just canceling it. |
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Posted: 3/7/2024 7:17:14 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Mine says Sig has been radio silent on them. im on the borderline of just canceling it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Originally Posted By Miredmire: My dealer mentioned they may be arriving this week. I tried contacting Sig directly, but no dice. im on the borderline of just canceling it. Theyre coming. Late? Absolutely. Been a few things going on that caused some delays... |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 3/13/2024 10:03:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Miredmire]
[#9]
Do you know if they have the same QR code markings as the military uppers?
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Posted: 3/23/2024 11:18:04 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Miredmire: Do you know if they have the same QR code markings as the military uppers? for 4k+ they better be 100 percent identical lol |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 11:53:45 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MGYSGT8541: If you price the whole thing out then the price makes sense. It's a very rare set up obviously. If you are an MCX "whore" as someone said then you should be use to these prices. Price of fame. Can you break it down? Still seems like a gnarly premium. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 4/2/2024 10:53:46 AM EDT
[#12]
Bauer just updated their ETA to May.
I really don't get why it's taking so long to fulfill SURG pre-orders when Sig has been releasing a metric ton of new products over the past 5 months. My dealer mentioned his Sig rep has been saying they're submitting the form 3s for the past 3 months now lol. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2024 3:26:01 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon: Theyre coming. Late? Absolutely. Been a few things going on that caused some delays... When can we expect them to start shipping? Almost half a year overdue is kind of insane. |
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Posted: 5/15/2024 5:00:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LsuJon]
[#14]
Disregard
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Posted: 5/16/2024 8:40:02 PM EDT
[#15]
 First units were delivered to dealers today. |
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Posted: 5/16/2024 11:51:10 PM EDT
[#16]
Is the cage on the can just for heat protection??
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Posted: 5/17/2024 10:54:29 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Is the cage on the can just for heat protection?? Yeah, that was the plan from the initial solicitation. The cage can be removed (three screws in the front). -D |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 5/22/2024 7:04:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: xldrvr]
[#18]
Mine is en route to my FFL. Big question is, do I attach it to my Colt lower as intended, or get a Sig FDE anodized MCX lower?
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Posted: 5/22/2024 7:59:48 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ikickhippies: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/106661/IMG_8870-3216036.jpg First units were delivered to dealers today. I'm on the fence with getting one of these. Its a cool piece of history, legitimate socom issue and will only go up in value unless Sig decides to release more. Just a tough price to swallow. You have to pay to play I guess though. Do we know how many Sig made available for civilian sales and shipped out to dealers? |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 5/22/2024 9:21:49 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xldrvr: Mine is en route to my FFL. Big question is, do I attach it to my Colt lower as intended, or get a Sig FDE anodized MCX lower? You'll have to swap out the recoil spring buffer plate if you want to put it on a MCX lower. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 4:42:13 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Miredmire: You'll have to swap out the recoil spring buffer plate if you want to put it on a MCX lower. Correct. As these were contracted to run on M4 lowers the plate is just a touch too long to fit into an MCX lower. but fits an M4 style lower perfectly. This is the part that you need in order to get it to run on an MCX: https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/kit-mcx-ops-spring |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 5/23/2024 6:35:35 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mindfull: I'm on the fence with getting one of these. Its a cool piece of history, legitimate socom issue and will only go up in value unless Sig decides to release more. Just a tough price to swallow. You have to pay to play I guess though. Do we know how many Sig made available for civilian sales and shipped out to dealers? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mindfull: Originally Posted By ikickhippies: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/106661/IMG_8870-3216036.jpg First units were delivered to dealers today. I'm on the fence with getting one of these. Its a cool piece of history, legitimate socom issue and will only go up in value unless Sig decides to release more. Just a tough price to swallow. You have to pay to play I guess though. Do we know how many Sig made available for civilian sales and shipped out to dealers? From what I understand, these are a one batch deal, of military overruns. I know for a fact Proven Outfitters has one unclaimed upper kit, that someone back out on. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 5/23/2024 6:39:18 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ikickhippies: Correct. As these were contracted to run on M4 lowers the plate is just a touch too long to fit into an MCX lower. but fits an M4 style lower perfectly. This is the part that you need in order to get it to run on an MCX: https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/kit-mcx-ops-spring Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ikickhippies: Originally Posted By Miredmire: You'll have to swap out the recoil spring buffer plate if you want to put it on a MCX lower. Correct. As these were contracted to run on M4 lowers the plate is just a touch too long to fit into an MCX lower. but fits an M4 style lower perfectly. This is the part that you need in order to get it to run on an MCX: https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/kit-mcx-ops-spring Thanks for the heads up and link. I'll configure as it was intended, plus the two tone looks great! |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 7:02:34 PM EDT
[#24]
will it fit on 1st gen mcx?
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Posted: 5/24/2024 7:48:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ProvenArmsOutfitters]
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pogmothoin: will it fit on 1st gen mcx? It should work on all MCX models and has the adapter for standard AR lowers too! We have a couple in stock! We don't believe these will be offered again, so once they're gone they're gone. MCX-SURG Suppressed Upper Receiver Group  |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 10:32:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: brazos609]
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ProvenArmsOutfitters: It should work on all MCX models and has the adapter for standard AR lowers too! We have a couple in stock! We don't believe these will be offered again, so once they're gone they're gone. Is the top layer on the upper anodized or ceracoated, there are photos showing it both ways? |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 3:36:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ProvenArmsOutfitters]
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brazos609: Is the top layer on the upper anodized or ceracoated, there are photos showing it both ways? Not sure what you mean by "top layer", but the upper appears to be anodized on the outside and black on the inside. Please feel free to email us at [email protected] and we can provide some pictures if you would like. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 5/24/2024 4:53:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: xldrvr]
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brazos609: Is the top layer on the upper anodized or ceracoated, there are photos showing it both ways? It's anodized, mine came in today and had the Form 4 submitted. The barrel, charging handle, forward assist, and dust cover are anodized or painted in Coyote. Another interesting feature, there's a heat shield installed on the bottom of the hand guard, also in Coyote. The suppressor is torqued on tight, I wasn't able to remove it, and take home the upper separately. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 12:14:02 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pogmothoin: will it fit on 1st gen mcx? Yes, but again- in order to function on ANY MCX you need the part below. https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/kit-mcx-ops-spring https://www.sigsauer.com/sig-mcx-operating-springs-assembly.html https://osagecountyguns.com/firearm-accessories/pistol-rifle-parts-kits/firearm-parts/sig-sauer-mcx-opearting-spring-assembly-kit.html  It's an easy swap. The one that is in the upper will only fit when using an M4 style lower. It's slightly too long for an MCX. That all makes since because SURG was developed for SOCOM to run on M4 lowers, not MCX's. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 12:16:01 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xldrvr: It's anodized, mine came in today and had the Form 4 submitted. The barrel, charging handle, forward assist, and dust cover are anodized or painted in Coyote. Another interesting feature, there's a heat shield installed on the bottom of the hand guard, also in Coyote. The suppressor is torqued on tight, I wasn't able to remove it, and take home the upper separately. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xldrvr: Originally Posted By brazos609: Is the top layer on the upper anodized or ceracoated, there are photos showing it both ways? It's anodized, mine came in today and had the Form 4 submitted. The barrel, charging handle, forward assist, and dust cover are anodized or painted in Coyote. Another interesting feature, there's a heat shield installed on the bottom of the hand guard, also in Coyote. The suppressor is torqued on tight, I wasn't able to remove it, and take home the upper separately. Only items I noticed that were ceracoated on mine were the silencer and the barrel. And yeah, it was torqued on pretty good. I blamed the tapered barrel/ silencer. There was no rocksett or threadlocker. I locked in in a set of soft jaws and put a breaker bar on it and it popped right off. |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 5:18:20 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ikickhippies: Only items I noticed that were ceracoated on mine were the silencer and the barrel. And yeah, it was torqued on pretty good. I blamed the tapered barrel/ silencer. There was no rocksett or threadlocker. I locked in in a set of soft jaws and put a breaker bar on it and it popped right off. Can you confirm if if left hand thread? Someone just told me it was. Wouldnt really make sense to do that now when its been right hand for mcx up to now. |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 10:34:47 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8: Can you confirm if if left hand thread? Someone just told me it was. Wouldnt really make sense to do that now when its been right hand for mcx up to now. Just confirmed with SIG that these are indeed the same as all of the MCX SPEAR LT models and threaded 1/2x28 RH. |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 3:43:11 PM EDT
[#33]
How about the auto parts, sear trip etc?
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Posted: 5/28/2024 5:44:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Mindfull]
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By red6actual: How about the auto parts, sear trip etc? He explains what you need to do for full auto.  SIG Sauer MCX SURG 5.56 |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 6:07:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: red6actual]
[#35]
Why do we have to modify for full auto? Wasn't this upper supposed to fit right on an M4A1 lower, with the lower adapter ofcourse?
I didn't see if it had the auto sear trip in the upper as delivered either, have to assume it was or one was installed. |
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Posted: 5/29/2024 10:17:55 AM EDT
[#36]
I was tempted by the SURG kit the EuroOptic had on sale for ~$3500 this weekend. It looks like they raised it back up to ~$4100 again this morning.
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OH, USA
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Posted: 6/2/2024 10:03:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: skidmarklucy]
[#37]
Well was looking at higher end AR builds and stumbled onto a SURG local shop had an extra. Waiting on lots of paperwork now for lots of SIG projects it seems.
That is a Wilson Lower but really thinking about picking up another one or if I pull apart my old M4 roll mark LE Colt 6920 and use that for the Form 1. Tossed on another thread protector (36M) and the other handguard. 
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TN, USA
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Posted: 6/11/2024 9:05:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BlueShirtGuy]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mindfull: He explains what you need to do for full auto.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY8lcWVFQ9Q@coregon So he's saying this comes with a Virtus BCG that won't run full auto and you have to use one of the new LT BCGs to get it full auto. That makes zero sense. If these are true overruns and they obviously installed the sear trip then why would they send a BCG that wasn't sent out in the mil guns? Is it they just won't run with the G SSF? Which is also confusing because are the SSF triggers also not in use w the lowers these could get installed on? |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/12/2024 5:33:17 PM EDT
[#39]
Also, if they are contract overruns they should have chrome lined barrels. Is that the case? Or are they unlined civilian barrels?
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OH, USA
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Posted: 6/13/2024 9:02:36 AM EDT
[#40]
Making progress one step at a time, now just awaiting the form 1 to ditch the brace.
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OH, USA
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Posted: 6/13/2024 9:12:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: skidmarklucy]
[#41]
Originally Posted By BlueShirtGuy: @coregon So he's saying this comes with a Virtus BCG that won't run full auto and you have to use one of the new LT BCGs to get it full auto. That makes zero sense. If these are true overruns and they obviously installed the sear trip then why would they send a BCG that wasn't sent out in the mil guns? Is it they just won't run with the G SSF? Which is also confusing because are the SSF triggers also not in use w the lowers these could get installed on? This is mostly in relation to the Trigger he is using and compatibility as far as I can tell if you run a standard Mil Spec trigger it doesn't matter but some of the match triggers can't move the Spear Firing Pin safety from what I understand, which is what he is running. He swaps out the bolt as the older one didn't have the firing pin safety. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 6/13/2024 7:08:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BlueShirtGuy]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By skidmarklucy: This is mostly in relation to the Trigger he is using and compatibility as far as I can tell if you run a standard Mil Spec trigger it doesn't matter but some of the match triggers can't move the Spear Firing Pin safety from what I understand, which is what he is running. He swaps out the bolt as the older one didn't have the firing pin safety. He said he was using the G SSF trigger with the BCG having the G latch, so why would a standard auto trigger work and the SSF not? I though the G latch allowed for any trigger to work while the S latch required the specific MCX trigger. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 6/16/2024 1:10:28 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlueShirtGuy: He said he was using the G SSF trigger with the BCG having the G latch, so why would a standard auto trigger work and the SSF not? I though the G latch allowed for any trigger to work while the S latch required the specific MCX trigger. This is what I was trying to figure out as well, but to be fair some info in Alex's video seemed really off. All SURG BCGs come with the 'A' marked full auto latch. 
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TN, USA
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Posted: 6/16/2024 11:06:49 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Miredmire: This is what I was trying to figure out as well, but to be fair some info in Alex's video seemed really off. All SURG BCGs come with the 'A' marked full auto latch. https://imgur.com/a/RrzgrAi Thanks! Then yes it seems like he did not try it on his auto lower or his lower is not setup to MIL Spec. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 7:09:05 PM EDT
[#45]
I am amazed with how quiet the SURG is and how you get zero gas to the face which is a huge plus as a lefty.
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Posted: 6/29/2024 1:52:51 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StampCollector87: I am amazed with how quiet the SURG is and how you get zero gas to the face which is a huge plus as a lefty. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/193723/8AE99C53-3969-4762-B1D4-27B36C2FC2C0_1_2-3248973.jpg Damn - that thing is hot. I have a Palmetto stripped M4A1 lower that has been collecting dust for the last several years - trying REALLY hard to resist buying a SURG kit to mate with it...yours isn't helping my resolve... |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 6:03:00 PM EDT
[#47]
I vote buy one while you can if anything they will appreciate in value.
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Posted: 7/16/2024 5:21:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: wayfaerer320]
[#48]
Anyone else get their SURG Form 4s approved and are rocking and rolling?
We need more pics! @LsuJon - anymore "in the wild" pics you've come across lately of SURG content? |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 7/17/2024 1:54:51 AM EDT
[#49]
Mine is getting delivered tomorrow, hoping my F4 goes quick
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Posted: 7/17/2024 12:35:01 PM EDT
[#50]
@Combat_Diver
See any of these Sig SURG kits floating around? Come across any yet at work? |
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