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Posted: 11/10/2023 1:00:40 PM EDT
I have an M4-2k from back in the day that I want to convert to a different mounting system. Is there a legal way for me to do this?
I know Ecco is an option, but I would rather tinker with my own idea. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 2:11:37 PM EDT
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I'd say keep your mouth shut and just do it. But, you had to ask on a public forum infested with glowies. So no you can't.
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Posted: 11/10/2023 2:12:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wingsnthings: I'd say keep your mouth shut and just do it. But, you had to ask on a public forum infested with glowies. So no you can't. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 2:29:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AT-ST83]
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Ecco Machine knows what they are doing...why risk destroying a good suppressor by "tinkering" with it? Let the experts do it.
They converted an AAC 762SD for me a while back...they do amazing work. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 2:43:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AT-ST83: Ecco Machine knows what they are doing...why risk destroying a good suppressor by "tinkering" with it? Let the experts do it. They converted an AAC 762SD for me a while back...they do amazing work. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 3:10:31 PM EDT
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What's the crime you commit by working on your own can? It's always confused me because as far as I know that prohibition doesn't exist for any other class of firearm once you own it.
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Posted: 11/10/2023 3:14:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: What's the crime you commit by working on your own can? It's always confused me because as far as I know that prohibition doesn't exist for any other class of firearm once you own it. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 3:51:57 PM EDT
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How pray tell can one buy different end caps, quick detach adapters muzzle devices etc with no government intervention. Hell you don't even have to own a suppressor.
You are overthinking this. None of this crap is regulated. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 4:17:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ECCO_Machine]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: What's the crime you commit by working on your own can? It's always confused me because as far as I know that prohibition doesn't exist for any other class of firearm once you own it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: What's the crime you commit by working on your own can? It's always confused me because as far as I know that prohibition doesn't exist for any other class of firearm once you own it. Working on it is not illegal. Making new silencer parts without an approved Form 1 or being an SOT, however, is. Originally Posted By dusty3030: How pray tell can one buy different end caps, quick detach adapters muzzle devices etc with no government intervention. Hell you don't even have to own a suppressor. You are overthinking this. None of this crap is regulated. You'd be wrong. Interchangeable mounts & adapters are not silencer parts, and in some cases, neither are front caps (for example, if it was originally made/manufactured and filed F2 or approved F1 as having interchangeable caps, or or there is a non-NFA muzzle devices which uses the same caps). Tubes & baffles, however, are always silencer parts. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 4:20:13 PM EDT
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Do you can’t retread your own tube for a different adapter?
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Posted: 11/10/2023 4:21:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dusty3030: Do you can’t retread your own tube for a different adapter? You can, as long as you're able to get the job done without making new parts. |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 4:30:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ECCO_Machine: You can, as long as you're able to get the job done without making new parts. Plus, if you STFU about doing this, do it and stay outta trouble, no ones going to come sniff your tube for changes.... Not advocating you break any laws, we don't do that here, just saying. |
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Posted: 11/11/2023 12:59:09 PM EDT
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The problem with "Don't ask, don't tell" when dealing with this kind of thing is that on the very slim chance that you come under scrutiny for anything that may even tangentially involve the ATF is that if the ATF finds you did something against their rules and they believe that you knew it was against the rules and made efforts to conceal what you did they might decide to consider that some level of conspiracy or some other felonious activity
I'm not saying don't do it yourself, but in general I believe "if you don't tell anyone, what's the harm?" is terrible advise when dealing with the .gov in general and the ATF specifically Obligatory JMHO and YMMV 
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Posted: 11/11/2023 1:33:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VinnieBoomBahReborn: The problem with "Don't ask, don't tell" when dealing with this kind of thing is that on the very slim chance that you come under scrutiny for anything that may even tangentially involve the ATF is that if the ATF finds you did something against their rules and they believe that you knew it was against the rules and made efforts to conceal what you did they might decide to consider that some level of conspiracy or some other felonious activity I'm not saying don't do it yourself, but in general I believe "if you don't tell anyone, what's the harm?" is terrible advise when dealing with the .gov in general and the ATF specifically Obligatory JMHO and YMMV Its funny (or ironic) how we are supposed to follow all laws to a T, but the left can pick choose and rewrite to fit their narratives and agendas.... |
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