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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/6/2022 10:21:16 AM EDT
I saw this on JR Machine Products’ site.
https://jrmachinepro.com/750-titanium-threaded-gas-block/ Seems pretty cool and a way to save weight for an OTB can. The only potential issue I can see arising is the back end of the can heating up quicker because it’s a part of the gas block. But cans get hot anyway so maybe a non-issue. Any drawbacks to this that anyone can see? Thinking about a 12.5 OTB build. |
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Posted: 10/6/2022 10:25:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Sinister]
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That's how they should be built. Only two or three outfits make them like that.
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Posted: 10/6/2022 10:45:53 AM EDT
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How are you going to fit inches of barrel after the gas block inside the suppressor? Seems you would need a mega long blast chamber and longer can offsetting weight savings.
Other concern would be concentrically. 
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WI, USA
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Posted: 10/6/2022 12:12:51 PM EDT
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/6/2022 3:22:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR_Dale: How are you going to fit inches of barrel after the gas block inside the suppressor? Seems you would need a mega long blast chamber and longer can offsetting weight savings. Other concern would be concentrically. https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-83dviv04v0/images/stencil/1200x1800/products/164/517/gasblock1__06627.1658861185.jpg?c=1 Yes it will have to have large blast chamber like other over the barrel set ups. I was thinking about a 9 or 10 inch long can. Using titanium for the last few baffles should help with weight. I suppose I’ll have to check alignment when it’s put together, but that has to be done anyway. |
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Posted: 10/6/2022 11:38:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Concentricity]
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I had read that a suppressor tube backset down the barrel doesn’t suppress as well as a tube that is more completely forward of the muzzle. However I don’t have a source to cite.
If I remember correctly the blast gasses are disinterested in moving backwards so it could therefore be reasoned that the muzzle should end as quickly as possible after the tube mount. The same tube mounted completely forward of the muzzle tested at a lower db rating than the same tube installed backset with the muzzle 1/3 into the tube length. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 10/7/2022 9:59:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Concentricity: I had read that a suppressor tube backset down the barrel doesn’t suppress as well as a tube that is more completely forward of the muzzle. However I don’t have a source to cite. If I remember correctly the blast gasses are disinterested in moving backwards so it could therefore be reasoned that the muzzle should end as quickly as possible after the tube mount. The same tube mounted completely forward of the muzzle tested at a lower db rating than the same tube installed backset with the muzzle 1/3 into the tube length. That's correct for the same length of can, but with a reflex style like this you can get more can length for the same overall length. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/7/2022 10:29:24 AM EDT
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Could anyone tell me if an aggressive muzzle brake in the blast chamber of a reflex can would help with suppression?
You would think it would help more than a bare muzzle. Especially if the brake had two or three baffles and had a rearward-facing blast pattern. Can anyone confirm? |
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Posted: 10/10/2022 8:42:40 PM EDT
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I don’t know but they do say to work the gas pulse hard as quick as you can straight off the muzzle.
A brake should hypothetically strip and delay some pressure off of the gas pulse before it even expands into the blast chamber baffle. I actually don’t even know what a reflex can is. I guess that you could say that I don’t know the difference between my ass and a hole in the ground. But we’re all here to learn right? |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 6/21/2023 3:21:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: withoutremorse42]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Concentricity: I actually don’t even know what a reflex can is. I guess that you could say that I don’t know the difference between my ass and a hole in the ground. But we’re all here to learn right? Reflex style can has a bunch of baffles tightly spaced near the business end, with a large empty volume behind it. As opposed to evenly spaced baffles that take up most of the suppressor @Concentricity |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 6/21/2023 3:23:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SubSonic1836: Could anyone tell me if an aggressive muzzle brake in the blast chamber of a reflex can would help with suppression? Helps a little with suppression, but helps more with longevity of the blast baffle. Does help reduced the amount of gas that's heading straight "down the pipe" by redirecting the gas and making it more turbulent |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 6/21/2023 3:24:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Concentricity: If I remember correctly the blast gasses are disinterested in moving backwards True, they do like to follow the path of inertia. Good design (clipped baffles, muzzle brake, dater holes etc) force the gas rearwards to fill the large chamber |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 12:52:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By withoutremorse42: Reflex style can has a bunch of baffles tightly spaced near the business end, with a large empty volume behind it. As opposed to evenly spaced baffles that take up most of the suppressor @Concentricity |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 2:45:38 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/1/2023 2:49:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By withoutremorse42: Reflex style can has a bunch of baffles tightly spaced near the business end, with a large empty volume behind it. As opposed to evenly spaced baffles that take up most of the suppressor @Concentricity Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By withoutremorse42: Originally Posted By Concentricity: I actually don't even know what a reflex can is. I guess that you could say that I don't know the difference between my ass and a hole in the ground. But we're all here to learn right? Reflex style can has a bunch of baffles tightly spaced near the business end, with a large empty volume behind it. As opposed to evenly spaced baffles that take up most of the suppressor @Concentricity |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 8/1/2023 8:10:09 AM EDT
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Wow, I sure wish this gas block would have been available in 2008 when I made my first Form 1 suppressor. It sure would have simplified the construction and saved weight. I made a copy of this Navy patent from the Viet Nam era: https://patents.google.com/patent/US3776093A/en It's a simple one baffle suppressor disposable suppressor. I found out many years later that the reason it was disposable was that it was supposed to be made out of aluminum, not steel. Dispite its simplicity, it does suppress quite well, but is gassy. Suppression from a 20" bbl was comparable to an AAC 762SD also fired on a 20" bbl.
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WI, USA
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Posted: 8/1/2023 1:12:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jreinke: https://isteam.wsimg.com/ip/914a2677-4912-11e6-a937-14feb5d39f6a/ols/589_original/:/rs=w:600,h:600 So who makes this one? https://shop.saternbarrels.net/products/low-profile-gas-block-750-threaded |
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Posted: 8/3/2023 12:29:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jreinke: https://shop.saternbarrels.net/products/low-profile-gas-block-750-threaded Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jreinke: Originally Posted By jreinke: https://isteam.wsimg.com/ip/914a2677-4912-11e6-a937-14feb5d39f6a/ols/589_original/:/rs=w:600,h:600 So who makes this one? https://shop.saternbarrels.net/products/low-profile-gas-block-750-threaded Dang, it’d be really cool if it were HUB/ 1.375 threaded |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 8/3/2023 12:45:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By born2lose76: Dang, it’d be really cool if it were HUB/ 1.375 threaded Maybe better? An "adapter" could be made to turn a silencer with those threads into both a standard and reflex modular application. |
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Posted: 8/3/2023 12:52:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By born2lose76: Dang, it'd be really cool if it were HUB/ 1.375 threaded Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By born2lose76: Originally Posted By jreinke: Originally Posted By jreinke: https://isteam.wsimg.com/ip/914a2677-4912-11e6-a937-14feb5d39f6a/ols/589_original/:/rs=w:600,h:600 So who makes this one? https://shop.saternbarrels.net/products/low-profile-gas-block-750-threaded Dang, it'd be really cool if it were HUB/ 1.375 threaded |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 8/3/2023 9:01:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By November5: The Satern isn't what I'd call quality. True that, I know someone that bought one of the Satern blocks. It wasn’t even threaded to the spec they advertised on their site. |
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Posted: 8/3/2023 9:34:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VinnieBoomBahReborn: True that, I know someone that bought one of the Satern blocks. It wasn't even threaded to the spec they advertised on their site. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VinnieBoomBahReborn: Originally Posted By November5: The Satern isn't what I'd call quality. True that, I know someone that bought one of the Satern blocks. It wasn't even threaded to the spec they advertised on their site. |
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Posted: 8/3/2023 11:34:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sinister: That's how they should be built. Only two or three outfits make them like that. https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-83dviv04v0/images/stencil/900x1800/products/164/517/gasblock1__06627.1658861185.jpg?c=1 https://isteam.wsimg.com/ip/914a2677-4912-11e6-a937-14feb5d39f6a/ols/589_original/:/rs=w:600,h:600 https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/attachments/screenshot_20211230-080511_samsung-internet-jpg.7781525/ I have one for the SR25, now if I can find one for an AR15 |
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Posted: 8/3/2023 11:48:49 PM EDT
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FRP?
How ya gonna get a bayonet on there? 
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Posted: 8/4/2023 12:02:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: ... How ya gonna get a bayonet on there? |
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Posted: 8/14/2023 7:33:36 PM EDT
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I’ve decided my next one is going to be a shorty for my 10.3’s. I had it mostly figured out until I read this.
I really like the looks of these. I wonder if an inch or two of barrel to reflex over would benefit a turbo k type can. It wouldn’t really add much weight. Or maybe I’m just trying too hard to come up with a reason to put this on a rifle. |
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Posted: 8/20/2023 1:23:41 PM EDT
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The older Barrett M468 6.8 rifles had a nice gas block/suppressor mount . The muzzle brake also acted as a forward boss to keep the bore alignment straight.
Worked really well. |
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