Each manufacturer and importer and anyone making a firearm shall identify each firearm, other than a destructive device, manufactured, imported, or made by a serial number which may not be readily removed, obliterated, or altered, the name of the manufacturer, importer, or maker, and such other identification as the Secretary may by regulations prescribe.

You, as a manufacturer, importer, or maker of a firearm, must legibly identify the firearm as follows:

(2) By engraving, casting, stamping (impressing), or otherwise conspicuously placing or causing to be engraved, cast, stamped (impressed), or placed on the frame, receiver, or barrel thereof certain additional information. This information must be placed in a manner not susceptible of being readily obliterated, altered or removed. For firearms manufactured, imported, or made on and after January 30, 2002, the engraving, casting, or stamping (impressing) of this information must be to a minimum depth of .003 inch. The additional information includes:

(i) The model, if such designation has been made;

(ii) The caliber or gauge;

(iii) Your name (or recognized abbreviation) and also, when applicable, the name of the foreign manufacturer or maker;

(iv) In the case of a domestically made firearm, the city and State (or recognized abbreviation thereof) where you as the manufacturer maintain your place of business, or where you, as the maker, made the firearm; and

(v) In the case of an imported firearm, the name of the country in which it was manufactured and the city and State (or recognized abbreviation thereof) where you as the importer maintain your place of business. For additional requirements relating to imported firearms, see Customs regulations at 19 CFR part 134.

Originally Posted By Deny_Everything:
I'm no expert,  but if you filed a form 1, and are converting a regular firearm to an an NFA item,  then I don't see how it is different from doing the same with, say, an AR15 lower, and therefore it would need to be engraved.

Originally Posted By sgtgeo:
I did a Tac-14 SBS

It was not approved because I chose "Tac-14" from the drop down for "model"

The correct answer was "870"

Trying to make sense of the ATF is futile.

They do ask for pics of the markings or something which they didn't in the past.

Mine was engraved. Just like the SBRs I've done.

Originally Posted By TNRonin:

This is a discussion that has been going in for a while. I just SBS'd my tac-14. Did I shorten the BBL? Did I alter any permanent part of the gun? It came, with the exception of the stock, in it's current configuration FROM THE MANUFACTURER/MAKER. I didn't make the gun. Now if I had shortened the BBL myself, that's another matter.

I realize there will be some that will STRENUOUSLY disagree, usually with a veiled threat that the AFT will be coming for me. Which lends itself to noticing the number of prosecutions for failing to "properly" engrave the gun. We sqeal as a community when we hear about something the AFT is doing so that ain't happening.

Not only that but from what I read above even Wilson a WELL KNOWN manufacturer doesn't mess with it because.... they engrave their info because they are the maker.

It tickles me sometimes when people state that a professional business is wrong. Huh?

Originally Posted By TNRonin:

This is a discussion that has been going in for a while. I just SBS'd my tac-14. Did I shorten the BBL? Did I alter any permanent part of the gun? It came, with the exception of the stock, in it's current configuration FROM THE MANUFACTURER/MAKER. I didn't make the gun. Now if I had shortened the BBL myself, that's another matter.

I realize there will be some that will STRENUOUSLY disagree, usually with a veiled threat that the AFT will be coming for me. Which lends itself to noticing the number of prosecutions for failing to "properly" engrave the gun. We sqeal as a community when we hear about something the AFT is doing so that ain't happening.

Not only that but from what I read above even Wilson a WELL KNOWN manufacturer doesn't mess with it because.... they engrave their info because they are the maker.

It tickles me sometimes when people state that a professional business is wrong. Huh?

Originally Posted By dntama:
I don't think engraving a barrel is acceptable for a new SBS/SBR. I think the regulations changed in 2023.

Originally Posted By TNRonin:

This is a discussion that has been going in for a while. I just SBS'd my tac-14. Did I shorten the BBL? Did I alter any permanent part of the gun? It came, with the exception of the stock, in it's current configuration FROM THE MANUFACTURER/MAKER. I didn't make the gun. Now if I had shortened the BBL myself, that's another matter.

I realize there will be some that will STRENUOUSLY disagree, usually with a veiled threat that the AFT will be coming for me. Which lends itself to noticing the number of prosecutions for failing to "properly" engrave the gun. We sqeal as a community when we hear about something the AFT is doing so that ain't happening.

Not only that but from what I read above even Wilson a WELL KNOWN manufacturer doesn't mess with it because.... they engrave their info because they are the maker.

It tickles me sometimes when people state that a professional business is wrong. Huh?

Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:

It tickles me when people are willfully ignorant and think that a business telling them something is better than the actual law which hasn't changed in a long time. You made a SBS. Federal law is clear on what a maker need to do when making a firearm. You filled out a form the title of which is "Application to Make and Register a Firearm"

Seems pretty clear to me. Just because you get away with something or they don't enforce doesn't mean it's legal.