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Posted: 1/30/2024 12:16:26 PM EDT
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My dealer went and spoke to Century about the 33s. The game isn't over yet. But it certainly has been delayed beyond what they expected. Not much info was relayed other than it is still a very real thing.
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Posted: 1/30/2024 3:42:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: agb104983]
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Ironically, I think the one thing preventing somebody from stepping in and making us HK33/93/53’s…. Is the fact that MKE MIGHT eventually give us 33/93/53’s. I think a lot of companies that would otherwise bring us those guns like PTR or Zenith know that they can’t compete with a Turkish rollerlock on price and saw their own market share get stolen by MKE on the MP5 front. You can see they both moved into the 223/556 space but steered clear of directly making a 33/93/53 that could be directly competed against by MKE imports.
For Zenith, they decided to make a new designed roller lock 556 gun and price it to compete or with the HK416/SCAR16 crowd. PTR basically decided to make a HK33, but decided to go with the G41 variation to differentiate it. I think making an actual HK33/93/53 will be radioactive for almost any company while there is still the possibility that MKE will actually start selling those guns |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:18:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By agb104983: Ironically, I think the one thing preventing somebody from stepping in and making us HK33/93/53’s…. Is the fact that MKE MIGHT eventually give us 33/93/53’s. I think a lot of companies that would otherwise bring us those guns like PTR or Zenith know that they can’t compete with a Turkish rollerlock on price and saw their own market share get stolen by MKE on the MP5 front. You can see they both moved into the 223/556 space but steered clear of directly making a 33/93/53 that could be directly competed against by MKE imports. For Zenith, they decided to make a new designed roller lock 556 gun and price it to compete or with the HK416/SCAR16 crowd. PTR basically decided to make a HK33, but decided to go with the G41 variation to differentiate it. I think making an actual HK33/93/53 will be radioactive for almost any company while there is still the possibility that MKE will actually start selling those guns I'd say there is a lot of truth to what you just wrote. I'm holding out hope for the 33k and will for sure buy two, or more. If it ends up being just the 33 or 53....I'll probably get a 33, and just one. I stocked up on mags, parts, and an A3 stock a while back so I'm invested and ready. 
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FL, USA
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:41:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HKocher: I much prefer the classic look on my HKs, I wish they’d ship these rifles with the wide hard guards instead of mlok. Indeed. When I bought my MKE AP5, the first thing I did was swap out the hand guard for the proper HK type wide one. 
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Posted: 1/30/2024 7:39:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMC_JA: My dealer went and spoke to Century about the 33s. The game isn't over yet. But it certainly has been delayed beyond what they expected. Not much info was relayed other than it is still a very real thing. Hearsay but take it for what it's worth. PSA kept giving updated release quarters for their MP5. Many times they said it was going to be released. I mean anything is possible. If it comes it comes. I'm not "Waiting" on anything. |
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Posted: 1/31/2024 11:50:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lil_Sig: PSA kept giving updated release quarters for their MP5. Many times they said it was going to be released. I mean anything is possible. If it comes it comes. I'm not "Waiting" on anything. I think, to agb's point, PSA saw what MKE was selling their guns for and thought maybe it'd be a waste of time to try competing with them. They showed an MP5 looking PCC at shot, but I think if I remember right it was based on the Jackl. MKE is cleaning house with their MP5s at the price point they're at. I remember for years people wanted MP5s but didn't want to pay crazy money for a stamped sheet metal PCC, even if it is a great gun and nostalgic. Now the average enthusiast who isn't made of money can afford a good quality MP5 for around $1,000 made on HK tooling with a cold hammer forged barrel. |
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ND, USA
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Posted: 2/1/2024 2:10:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By agb104983: Ironically, I think the one thing preventing somebody from stepping in and making us HK33/93/53’s…. Is the fact that MKE MIGHT eventually give us 33/93/53’s. I think a lot of companies that would otherwise bring us those guns like PTR or Zenith know that they can’t compete with a Turkish rollerlock on price and saw their own market share get stolen by MKE on the MP5 front. You can see they both moved into the 223/556 space but steered clear of directly making a 33/93/53 that could be directly competed against by MKE imports. For Zenith, they decided to make a new designed roller lock 556 gun and price it to compete or with the HK416/SCAR16 crowd. PTR basically decided to make a HK33, but decided to go with the G41 variation to differentiate it. I think making an actual HK33/93/53 will be radioactive for almost any company while there is still the possibility that MKE will actually start selling those guns Good points. I don’t know how these decisions are made. But, MKE has really knocked it out of the park with price and gun with their MP5 guns. I’ve got a HK and the AP and compared the two. Other than the writing and the finish, they are identical. Welds and sight line up. So I hope the 33 series MKE guns are of the same quality. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 11:15:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: lil_Sig]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zeebz: I think, to agb's point, PSA saw what MKE was selling their guns for and thought maybe it'd be a waste of time to try competing with them. They showed an MP5 looking PCC at shot, but I think if I remember right it was based on the Jackl. MKE is cleaning house with their MP5s at the price point they're at. I remember for years people wanted MP5s but didn't want to pay crazy money for a stamped sheet metal PCC, even if it is a great gun and nostalgic. Now the average enthusiast who isn't made of money can afford a good quality MP5 for around $1,000 made on HK tooling with a cold hammer forged barrel. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zeebz: Originally Posted By lil_Sig: PSA kept giving updated release quarters for their MP5. Many times they said it was going to be released. I mean anything is possible. If it comes it comes. I'm not "Waiting" on anything. I think, to agb's point, PSA saw what MKE was selling their guns for and thought maybe it'd be a waste of time to try competing with them. They showed an MP5 looking PCC at shot, but I think if I remember right it was based on the Jackl. MKE is cleaning house with their MP5s at the price point they're at. I remember for years people wanted MP5s but didn't want to pay crazy money for a stamped sheet metal PCC, even if it is a great gun and nostalgic. Now the average enthusiast who isn't made of money can afford a good quality MP5 for around $1,000 made on HK tooling with a cold hammer forged barrel. Oh, there is no doubt it would be foolish for it now. With MKE's around $1100. However we were hearing back in 2018 that PSA said they were going to arrive in 2019. All before Covid supply chain issues. Keep in mind that the street price of the MKE AP5 was $2,600 in 2021. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 12:22:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lil_Sig: Oh, there is no doubt it would be foolish for it now. With MKE's around $1100. However we were hearing back in 2018 that PSA said they were going to arrive in 2019. All before Covid supply chain issues. Keep in mind that the street price of the MKE AP5 was $2,600 in 2021. Century trying to price gouge. They quickly learned the better way. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 12:26:45 PM EDT
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FYI , There has been increased resitance from ATF to approve new pistol imports like these MKE models. Some applicaitons are being flat out denied while others are just being left in a state of limbo. This could be the cause of the slowdown in seeing these released for sale.
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MN, USA
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Posted: 2/1/2024 1:23:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ATLANTIC-FIREARMS: FYI , There has been increased resitance from ATF to approve new pistol imports like these MKE models. Some applicaitons are being flat out denied while others are just being left in a state of limbo. This could be the cause of the slowdown in seeing these released for sale. This is what I expected from this administration. |
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ND, USA
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Posted: 2/1/2024 2:28:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ATLANTIC-FIREARMS: FYI , There has been increased resitance from ATF to approve new pistol imports like these MKE models. Some applicaitons are being flat out denied while others are just being left in a state of limbo. This could be the cause of the slowdown in seeing these released for sale. I hope this doesn’t affect the FNC and MP-1 clone imports by PINDAD. 
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Posted: 2/1/2024 3:28:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bulletboy5150]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shadyman: I hope this doesn’t affect the FNC and MP-1 clone imports by PINDAD. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shadyman: Originally Posted By ATLANTIC-FIREARMS: FYI , There has been increased resitance from ATF to approve new pistol imports like these MKE models. Some applicaitons are being flat out denied while others are just being left in a state of limbo. This could be the cause of the slowdown in seeing these released for sale. I hope this doesn’t affect the FNC and MP-1 clone imports by PINDAD. This is what I am also concerned about. The Pindad guys seem real sure about them being imported but I can't find any info on possible importer or status of them with ATF. I have also been long awaiting MKE 33s as well so it almost feels like the same situation. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 4:14:06 PM EDT
[#14]
Importers should be suing the TAF when permits are not approved.
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Posted: 2/1/2024 4:53:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMC_JA: Century trying to price gouge. They quickly learned the better way. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMC_JA: Originally Posted By lil_Sig: Oh, there is no doubt it would be foolish for it now. With MKE's around $1100. However we were hearing back in 2018 that PSA said they were going to arrive in 2019. All before Covid supply chain issues. Keep in mind that the street price of the MKE AP5 was $2,600 in 2021. Century trying to price gouge. They quickly learned the better way. It is the Dealers that set the "Street Price". Century Sets the MSRP. Several Dealers are now selling AP5's below MSRP.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 4:57:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bulletboy5150: This is what I am also concerned about. The Pindad guys seem real sure about them being imported but I can't find any info on possible importer or status of them with ATF. I have also been long awaiting MKE 33s as well so it almost feels like the same situation. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bulletboy5150: This is what I am also concerned about. The Pindad guys seem real sure about them being imported but I can't find any info on possible importer or status of them with ATF. I have also been long awaiting MKE 33s as well so it almost feels like the same situation. I don't think ATF makes those public. Isn't it just a letter they send back to the applicant? (Or maybe several if ATF's FATD thinks it needs revisions prior to granting importation.) So it'd be up to the applicant (or their business partner) to leak that info onto the net, right? Originally Posted By EagleArmsHBAR: Importers should be suing the TAF when permits are not approved. It's all administrative by design. But yeah it would sure be nice to grab an HK33k and the gun from Heat. |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 5:34:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KitBuilder: How would you? I don't think ATF makes those public. Isn't it just a letter they send back to the applicant? (Or maybe several if ATF's FATD thinks it needs revisions prior to granting importation.) So it'd be up to the applicant (or their business partner) to leak that info onto the net, right? I don't think they're allowed to. It's all administrative by design. But yeah it would sure be nice to grab an HK33k and the gun from Heat. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KitBuilder: Originally Posted By bulletboy5150: This is what I am also concerned about. The Pindad guys seem real sure about them being imported but I can't find any info on possible importer or status of them with ATF. I have also been long awaiting MKE 33s as well so it almost feels like the same situation. I don't think ATF makes those public. Isn't it just a letter they send back to the applicant? (Or maybe several if ATF's FATD thinks it needs revisions prior to granting importation.) So it'd be up to the applicant (or their business partner) to leak that info onto the net, right? Originally Posted By EagleArmsHBAR: Importers should be suing the TAF when permits are not approved. It's all administrative by design. But yeah it would sure be nice to grab an HK33k and the gun from Heat. I guess my wording made it seem like I have some back channels, which I absolutely do not as AR15.com is my back channel I was only saying I have not seen an importer named yet and just assuming there is not currently one yet? |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 7:27:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ATLANTIC-FIREARMS]
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When we spoke with the Pindad crew, it did not sound like they had approval yet for the importation .
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Posted: 2/2/2024 8:56:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: bulletboy5150]
[#19]
Looking for more info I came across this thread that has who appears to be Apex Gun Parts basically saying the imports are not gonna happen.
https://www.uzitalk.com/forums/index.php?threads/pindad-at-shot-show-2024-indonesian-fnc-imports.99855/ And further in that thread he posts this letter from a lawfirm discussing ATF reclassifying what they consider to be importable pistols, which seems to follow their attempted brace ban wording. https://comms.wiley.law/8/3583/october-2020/alert--atf-interpretive-change-restricts-handgun-imports-and-may-require-nfa-registration(2).asp Although this is about the FNC import I feel it's related to MKE 33 and 91 imports and possibly why we have not seen them yet. |
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Posted: 2/2/2024 9:09:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bulletboy5150: Looking for more info I came across this thread that has who appears to be Apex Gun Parts basically saying the imports are not gonna happen. https://www.uzitalk.com/forums/index.php?threads/pindad-at-shot-show-2024-indonesian-fnc-imports.99855/ And further in that thread he posts this letter from a lawfirm discussing ATF reclassifying what they consider to be importable pistols, which seems to follow their attempted brace ban wording. https://comms.wiley.law/8/3583/october-2020/alert--atf-interpretive-change-restricts-handgun-imports-and-may-require-nfa-registration(2).asp Although this is about the FNC import I feel it's related to MKE 33 and 91 imports and possibly why we have not seen them yet. The laws defined how small a rifle can be, but never set limits on how big a pistol can be. Those adhering to the rule of law see this as we can import large pistols to the letter of the law. The ATF would appear to be leveraging interpretations which has been challenged time and time again, yet they keep doing it. The Sporting purposes aspect of GCA 68 and consequent importing to sporting standards should be challenged as it is rather obvious that the recent comprehensive interpretation of 2A is not the right to sport. I'm so glad the same agency isn't reviewing importing medical devices and medicines with the same malleable legal boundaries. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 2/2/2024 11:02:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: SnprPSG1]
[#21]
WE need more of these from ZENITH or PTR or Someone out there BUT AT A BETTER PRICE than the CRAZY PRICE LISTED.
Zenith Arms MKE Z43P Hk93 HK43 HK53 Clone https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1032407157 |
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Posted: 2/2/2024 11:29:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: USMC_JA]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cherenkov: The laws defined how small a rifle can be, but never set limits on how big a pistol can be. Those adhering to the rule of law see this as we can import large pistols to the letter of the law. The ATF would appear to be leveraging interpretations which has been challenged time and time again, yet they keep doing it. The Sporting purposes aspect of GCA 68 and consequent importing to sporting standards should be challenged as it is rather obvious that the recent comprehensive interpretation of 2A is not the right to sport. I'm so glad the same agency isn't reviewing importing medical devices and medicines with the same malleable legal boundaries. This. If the ATF can be legally be challenged on their interpretation of bump stocks, FRT triggers, and braces, they damn sure can be for interpretations on what is a legal for importation. It just takes the will to do so....and MONEY. |
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Posted: 2/2/2024 12:03:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bulletboy5150: Looking for more info I came across this thread that has who appears to be Apex Gun Parts basically saying the imports are not gonna happen. https://www.uzitalk.com/forums/index.php?threads/pindad-at-shot-show-2024-indonesian-fnc-imports.99855/ And further in that thread he posts this letter from a lawfirm discussing ATF reclassifying what they consider to be importable pistols, which seems to follow their attempted brace ban wording. https://comms.wiley.law/8/3583/october-2020/alert--atf-interpretive-change-restricts-handgun-imports-and-may-require-nfa-registration(2).asp Although this is about the FNC import I feel it's related to MKE 33 and 91 imports and possibly why we have not seen them yet. This would also explain why my dealer friend who was making inquires on the pistol told me they were pushing parts harder than guns. |
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Posted: 2/2/2024 1:03:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MikeMilligan]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SnprPSG1: WE need more of these from ZENITH or PTR or Someone out there. Zenith Arms MKE Z43P Hk93 HK43 HK53 Clone https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1032407157 That price is insane. One of these small outfits that can properly bend weld and finish could make a mint out of doing so with RCM parts and selling stripped “builders” guns without the stock, handguard, or trigger/grip frame. Hk pattern accessories are common now and people are only buying Turk stuff because it’s cheap and GuD Enuf, sometimes. I know all the American manufacturers are in love with MLOK rails but they don’t have to provide a rail at all-just the bones at a price point that would lead buyers to buy a stripped US made version over Turk stuff. Even if it’s at a slight premium. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 2/2/2024 1:57:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SnprPSG1]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeMilligan: That price is insane. One of these small outfits that can properly bend weld and finish could make a mint out of doing so with RCM parts and selling stripped “builders” guns without the stock, handguard, or trigger/grip frame. Hk pattern accessories are common now and people are only buying Turk stuff because it’s cheap and GuD Enuf, sometimes. I know all the American manufacturers are in love with MLOK rails but they don’t have to provide a rail at all-just the bones at a price point that would lead buyers to buy a stripped US made version over Turk stuff. Even if it’s at a slight premium. AGREED the PRICE is Crazy and I would NOT Pay that. I was NOT talking about the PRICE. I am talking about is more of THOSE TYPE'S of Rifle's/Pistol's but at Reasonable Price Point from someone like PTR or another Manufacture here in the States. |
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ND, USA
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Posted: 2/2/2024 6:56:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bulletboy5150: Looking for more info I came across this thread that has who appears to be Apex Gun Parts basically saying the imports are not gonna happen. https://www.uzitalk.com/forums/index.php?threads/pindad-at-shot-show-2024-indonesian-fnc-imports.99855/ And further in that thread he posts this letter from a lawfirm discussing ATF reclassifying what they consider to be importable pistols, which seems to follow their attempted brace ban wording. https://comms.wiley.law/8/3583/october-2020/alert--atf-interpretive-change-restricts-handgun-imports-and-may-require-nfa-registration(2).asp Although this is about the FNC import I feel it's related to MKE 33 and 91 imports and possibly why we have not seen them yet. Has anyone or an importer or distributor approached all these so called “pro Second Amendment” politicians we hear so much about to heel in the ATF? Or are they scared of the ATF? Or are the so called “pro Second Amendment” politicians just a bunch of liars and gun owners stupid? |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 2/22/2024 5:04:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bulletboy5150: Looking for more info I came across this thread that has who appears to be Apex Gun Parts basically saying the imports are not gonna happen. https://www.uzitalk.com/forums/index.php?threads/pindad-at-shot-show-2024-indonesian-fnc-imports.99855/ And further in that thread he posts this letter from a lawfirm discussing ATF reclassifying what they consider to be importable pistols, which seems to follow their attempted brace ban wording. https://comms.wiley.law/8/3583/october-2020/alert--atf-interpretive-change-restricts-handgun-imports-and-may-require-nfa-registration(2).asp Although this is about the FNC import I feel it's related to MKE 33 and 91 imports and possibly why we have not seen them yet. That law firm article is from 2020. It is old news and it did actually cause a panic over imports 4 years ago - when the brace rule was being worked on, while the "brace points" worksheet would have disqualified many pistols. It is not particularly relevant today and the ATF has always found arbitrary reasons to deny imports. Apex is a known agitator trying to get attention and appear somewhat relevant to sell some overpriced parts kits. |
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Posted: 2/28/2024 6:49:57 PM EDT
[#28]
Looks like Zenith is making an interest list for their 33
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Posted: 2/28/2024 7:08:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WaMag: Looks like Zenith is making an interest list for their 33 Saw that, signed up but hopefully it’s not like their stock that takes forever and then is priced like an HK |
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Posted: 3/2/2024 9:13:47 PM EDT
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Somewhat related. MKE is working on importing these so maybe we'll see some 43's imported also.
 Turkey's Official Battle Rifle: The MPT 76 (f. Kaya of Classic Firearms) |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/3/2024 3:00:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: N4KVE]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By osprey21: MKE USA Guess who else is in the 561 area code? Century Arms, Congress Ave, Delray Beach, Florida. I’m sure MKE, & Century Arms share the same address. GARY |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 11:13:10 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/5/2024 1:16:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shadyman: Has anyone or an importer or distributor approached all these so called "pro Second Amendment" politicians we hear so much about to heel in the ATF? Or are they scared of the ATF? Or are the so called "pro Second Amendment" politicians just a bunch of liars and gun owners stupid? |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 3/5/2024 1:57:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SnprPSG1]
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Where are the T-94 SD's & T-43 H's listed on MKE USA's site at?
Century?? Bueller? Bueller? Bueller? |
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Posted: 3/6/2024 10:31:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ATLANTIC-FIREARMS: FYI , There has been increased resitance from ATF to approve new pistol imports like these MKE models. Some applicaitons are being flat out denied while others are just being left in a state of limbo. This could be the cause of the slowdown in seeing these released for sale. Could you add some more detail here? Say, reasons for the denial? |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 3/21/2024 3:43:32 PM EDT
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Anyone hear any update in regards to the Surplus Portugese FMP G3 rifles built by PTR for Century hitting the market?
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Posted: 4/19/2024 1:48:32 PM EDT
[#38]
Any update on these?
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Posted: 4/20/2024 8:45:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ATLANTIC-FIREARMS]
[#39]
Anyone hear any update in regards to the Surplus Portugese FMP G3 rifles built by PTR for Century hitting the market?
We are testing a few and so far they look and work great. The only thing we could see is each stock set could vary a bit in color or condition due to being surplus. |
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Posted: 4/20/2024 8:53:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ATLANTIC-FIREARMS: Anyone hear any update in regards to the Surplus Portugese FMP G3 rifles built by PTR for Century hitting the market? We are testing a few and so far they look and work great. The only thing we could see is each stock set could vary a bit in color or condition due to being surplus. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 2:35:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ATLANTIC-FIREARMS: Anyone hear any update in regards to the Surplus Portugese FMP G3 rifles built by PTR for Century hitting the market? We are testing a few and so far they look and work great. The only thing we could see is each stock set could vary a bit in color or condition due to being surplus. That's good news! Any estimate when they will hit the market? |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 6:47:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bmwguy: Anyone hear any update in regards to the Surplus Portugese FMP G3 rifles built by PTR for Century hitting the market? These sounds like used "parts kit" builds, using U.S. made receivers and barrels, so not really an "import" per se. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 10:50:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stahlgewehr762: These sounds like used "parts kit" builds, using U.S. made receivers and barrels, so not really an "import" per se. Yep. Still waiting on MKE -33 clone updates. Looking less and less like its going to happen I fear. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 4/23/2024 2:34:21 PM EDT
[#44]
Just received the email from Atlantic Firearms about the CA-3.
The website listed the CA-3 for sale. Go get them guys. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 7:25:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: EagleArmsHBAR]
[#45]
When they said it was going to be cheap, I was thinking $699.
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Posted: 4/24/2024 11:44:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EagleArmsHBAR: When they said it was going to be cheap, I was thinking $699. Its 2024. $699 cheap for a quality rifle really does not exist any longer. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 11:45:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EagleArmsHBAR: When they said it was going to be cheap, I was thinking $699. Maybe it could’ve been if we didn’t have 20%+ inflation |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 7:03:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bmwguy: Just received the email from Atlantic Firearms about the CA-3. The website listed the CA-3 for sale. Go get them guys. Got a link because I can't seem to find them |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 7:42:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By awd_xtc: Got a link because I can't seem to find them https://atlanticfirearms.com/century-arms-ca3-rifle |
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By awd_xtc: Got a link because I can't seem to find them https://atlanticfirearms.com/century-arms-ca3-rifle Thread: https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/CA3-Rifle/9-551491/? |
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