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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/22/2024 8:28:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: dmk0210]
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Just ordered my Turbo K RB. They are finally back in stock.
Now I get to see how quick these fast approvals go. 
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/22/2024 8:32:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By willi3d: Got two approvals this morning (one from a year ago and the other from 2 1/2 months ago) and digitally signed my 4473 tonight. Hoping only two more weeks before they show up on my door. I used my local sheriff as the CLEO from the dropdown list this time. That might have delayed things. Next time I'll fill in the state police commandant as I had been previously doing. I think that went faster. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/22/2024 8:45:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: dmk0210]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By koz4guns: I understand that the wait after the approval with CA is about the same as the wait on the front end for the form 3 with SS, but man its seems like a lot harder wait on the back side after you've already gotten that ATF approval email. Now with CA, purchase to F4 submitted goes quickly and when you get the form approved, the stress is over. No worries about maybe you made a mistake on the form, maybe the govt will shutdown again, maybe the ATF will get a bug up their butt about something new. You're approved, you have a signed copy of your F4 and you're good to go. It's just CA handling their business to get the can to you. |
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Posted: 3/22/2024 10:37:27 AM EDT
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I’ve done it multiple times with both places and had issues with both but most of the time not
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/22/2024 10:37:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Captain92]
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So, my contribution. Purchased a SurgeX on 2/23/24. eForm filed. I don't have time to put exact dates, but I'll say everything was signed and completed within a couple days via docusign. I had all my info on file already from a purchase last July 23 (paper form...still waiting). CA sent emails with updates every step of the way. Certification over the phone couldn't have been easier. Was notified of CLO notification as well as his acknowledgement. Got shipping/tracking info by email. That mo-fo arrived yesterday by UPS, signature.
So...from purchase to the X in my grubby mitts: 2/23/24---3/21/24. I absolutely cannot say enough about how seamless this process was. CA will ABSOLUTELY be getting more of my business. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/22/2024 10:40:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmk0210: I feel the opposite. With Silencer Shop it was always a hassle to get my form certified and submitted through my local dealer. I just wanted to get the process started. It was frustrating. Now with CA, purchase to F4 submitted goes quickly and when you get the form approved, the stress is over. No worries about maybe you made a mistake on the form, maybe the govt will shutdown again, maybe the ATF will get a bug up their butt about something new. You're approved, you have a signed copy of your F4 and you're good to go. It's just CA handling their business to get the can to you. All this right here. |
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Posted: 3/22/2024 10:44:49 AM EDT
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You guys are going to make me spend money
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Posted: 3/22/2024 2:42:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StarCityShooter: You guys are going to make me spend money Well, very little in stock right now so you have a chance! |
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Posted: 3/22/2024 3:18:48 PM EDT
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They just restocked some Surefire inventory yesterday and I snagged an SB2 in FDE as I needed a tan can in my life.
I got a Wolverine and RC3 from them and both took 3 business days but not batched, now just waiting on shipping. Im on day 8 of waiting for a naked stainless Wolfman from my LGS using the SS kiosk so hopefully that gets approved soon. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 3/22/2024 4:18:53 PM EDT
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Ordered 2 cans in October. One was approved a few weeks ago. Still waiting on the other. Webpage tells me to wait on the 4473 until the 2nd is approved. Wondering how long that is going to take.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/22/2024 5:04:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By P229SAS: They just restocked some Surefire inventory yesterday and I snagged an SB2 in FDE as I needed a tan can in my life. I got a Wolverine and RC3 from them and both took 3 business days but not batched, now just waiting on shipping. Im on day 8 of waiting for a naked stainless Wolfman from my LGS using the SS kiosk so hopefully that gets approved soon. He said 'Naked' All these fast approvals makes me wanna git neekid and roll around in my pile of cans here! Lol |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/22/2024 7:56:18 PM EDT
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Question about next steps. Ordered supressor from griffin week ago, got emails from capitol about creating profile and needing fingerprints and set that up.
Decided to go get digital prints today since I was off and uploaded EFT file to my capitol profile this morning. Next step is to wait on email to fill out eform 4? |
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Posted: 3/22/2024 8:01:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KeepTheChnge: Question about next steps. Ordered supressor from griffin week ago, got emails from capitol about creating profile and needing fingerprints and set that up. Decided to go get digital prints today since I was off and uploaded EFT file to my capitol profile this morning. Next step is to wait on email to fill out eform 4? https://www.capitolarmory.com/support/how-to-buy-a-suppressor-online.html |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/22/2024 9:09:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cardboardkiller: https://www.capitolarmory.com/support/how-to-buy-a-suppressor-online.html Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cardboardkiller: Originally Posted By KeepTheChnge: Question about next steps. Ordered supressor from griffin week ago, got emails from capitol about creating profile and needing fingerprints and set that up. Decided to go get digital prints today since I was off and uploaded EFT file to my capitol profile this morning. Next step is to wait on email to fill out eform 4? https://www.capitolarmory.com/support/how-to-buy-a-suppressor-online.html Thanks. Guess should have been little more specific, is eform email from them or ATF? |
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Posted: 3/22/2024 9:39:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KeepTheChnge: Thanks. Guess should have been little more specific, is eform email from them or ATF? CA handles all the filing paperwork. You’ll get an email from CA leading you through every step. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/25/2024 4:15:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Captain92]
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Got email yesterday that my paper form Polonium was approved. Filed 7/22/23. Completed the 4473 and returned. Looking forward to it. CA rocks.
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Posted: 3/25/2024 5:31:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: rmdye]
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I certified another this morning. painless as always a little longer wait but I was # 19 in line. I told the employee they need more inventory. so got 2 more setting out there waiting for the form to come back maybe tommarow one of them will be 7 days then. the other one I did at the same times was less than 48 hours.
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Posted: 3/25/2024 5:40:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FDC: Welp, order in for a Rugged Oculus. One week in, and going smoothly so far from a new customer's POV. Certified and and CA submitted the form 4 today. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/25/2024 6:18:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: KeepTheChnge]
[#19]
Bought (from Griffin): 3/15
EFT prints uploaded: 3/22 Signed: 3/23 Certified: 3/25 Submitted: 3/25 |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/25/2024 7:07:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rmdye: I certified another this morning. painless as always a little longer wait but I was # 19 in line. I told the employee they need more inventory. so got 2 more setting out there waiting for the form to come back maybe tommarow one of them will be 7 days then. the other one I did at the same times was less than 48 hours. LOL, I started at #20 this morning. Think I was waiting for about 45 minutes. Apparently bought one of the last Flow 556Ks yesterday because they were sold out by this morning. |
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Posted: 3/26/2024 2:49:54 AM EDT
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Well between being a longtime Capitol Armory fan, and these crazy NFA Form 4 return times, I just fired off the credit card.
First time using the new “to your door” option.
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Posted: 3/26/2024 4:00:37 AM EDT
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Yeah, CA has a very efficient process, IME. Easy to work with and streamlined flow.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/26/2024 1:16:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jodan1776: Yeah, CA has a very efficient process, IME. Easy to work with and streamlined flow.  |
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Posted: 3/26/2024 1:26:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmk0210: Definitely. I just got two cans delivered last week and another two cans certified today. What was the time between certified and delivered |
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Posted: 3/26/2024 1:45:24 PM EDT
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They make it way too easy, just ordered another from them. Once your docs are file, it's add to cart, buy, docu-sign, and certify the next business day. I always ship UPS because you can upgrade UPS service for $20 a year, which lets you hold the package at the depot or re-schedule if you can't be home on delivery day to sign for it.
My local SS dealer isn't real responsive on NFA stuff, expensive for everything else, and I'd rather avoid dealing with them. So it's CA for in-stock stuff and another friendly non-SS local dealer for everything else. I was #3 in queue yesterday and they were in-call training another specialist to certify. Didn't take much extra time and I got to walk through their side of it as well. With current wait times, it'd be best to jump on whatever you want when it's in stock, CA is probably going to be slammed for the foreseeable future. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/26/2024 3:18:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dmk0210]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sierra5: What was the time between certified and delivered They were approved just a few days apart and shipped together so about 22 days from approval to delivery. |
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Posted: 3/26/2024 6:17:32 PM EDT
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My CA experience (already have an account with ATF and have done submissions through it).
So all about the same time, I bought a can from CA, from my LGS and from SS. SS: Still waiting. I believe that it's still waiting on the Form3 transfer. LGS: 2 day approval, picked up the next day so 3 days total. CA: Delivered today, about a month from purchase date. CA's process is simple, straightforward and friendly. Wish the turn around was better, especially with the new approval times. Purchased: 2/24/2024 (mailed in prints) eForm-4 certified: 3/6/2024 Approved: 3/12/2024 Notice of sent to CLEO: 3/13/2024 Notice of CLEO accepted: 3/21/2024 Notice of shipped: 3/25/2024 Delivered: 3/26/2024 |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 7:44:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmk0210: 70 days from cert to approval for my Tirant and 54 days for the Sonus They were approved just a few days apart and shipped together so about 22 days from approval to delivery. Noice, thank you |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 9:50:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: bad2006z71]
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Process has been pretty fast. Now waiting on the CLEO notification and wait. That part sucks, but oh well.
Got the CA email saying sent to CLEO on 3/19, not sure when they actually mail it and how long it would take to get from Tx to Va. If I understand correctly, whenever they get notification then it's another 7 days before they can ship it to me? |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 10:02:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bad2006z71: If I understand correctly, whenever they get notification then it's another 7 days before they can ship it to me? |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 4:55:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmk0210: That's correct. The ATF requires the waiting period. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmk0210: Originally Posted By bad2006z71: If I understand correctly, whenever they get notification then it's another 7 days before they can ship it to me? It’s more like two weeks after approval. GA has to fill out a 4473, send it to your for review, then the 4473 gets sent to the CLEO via certified US mail, and AFTER CA gets notified that the 4473 was received, then the 7 day clock starts. After 7 days pass, then they send the can to you via whatever shipping you picked. CA is pretty quick about sending you the 4473 for approval, but that plus mailing time through the US mail, adds to the 7 days. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 5:26:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bad2006z71: Process has been pretty fast. Now waiting on the CLEO notification and wait. That part sucks, but oh well. Got the CA email saying sent to CLEO on 3/19, not sure when they actually mail it and how long it would take to get from Tx to Va. If I understand correctly, whenever they get notification then it's another 7 days before they can ship it to me? My last bunch from CA. 4473 for all 3 signed 11/6/2023 4473 Sent to CLEO 11/9/2023 CLEO notification accepted 11/13/2023 Order shipped (All 3) 11/17/2023 Order received 11/21/2023 My dealer is on the opposite side of the state from me. I just filled another 4473 out this morning. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 5:30:07 PM EDT
[#33]
Just got my Form 4 approval this morning (submitted 03/18). Waiting for the 4473, I’d assume tomorrow or the next day.
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Posted: 3/27/2024 8:17:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmk0210: That's correct. The ATF requires the waiting period. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmk0210: Originally Posted By bad2006z71: If I understand correctly, whenever they get notification then it's another 7 days before they can ship it to me? |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 8:30:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bad2006z71: And they send an email stating cleo acceptance to right? Post 27 and post 32 on this page both contain your answer. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 9:03:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cardboardkiller: My last bunch from CA. 4473 for all 3 signed 11/6/2023 4473 Sent to CLEO 11/9/2023 CLEO notification accepted 11/13/2023 Order shipped (All 3) 11/17/2023 Order received 11/21/2023 My dealer is on the opposite side of the state from me. I just filled another 4473 out this morning. That doesn’t sound right if the CLEO got the 4473 on 11/13. The 7 days aren’t over until 11/20. I can’t believe that they shipped the cans to you before the 7 days were up. Even if you didn’t actually get them until 11/21, I’m very surprised they shipped them “at risk”. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 9:14:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By willi3d: That doesn’t sound right if the CLEO got the 4473 on 11/13. The 7 days aren’t over until 11/20. I can’t believe that they shipped the cans to you before the 7 days were up. Even if you didn’t actually get them until 11/21, I’m very surprised they shipped them “at risk”. It may not sound right, but that’s what happened. 
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KY, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:20:13 AM EDT
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Had CA special order a GSL Phoenix for me. GSL are 8-10 weeks out. Hopefully that’s fairly spot on.
My Nomad L I ordered, the noticed was sent to my sheriff and welt this week. Hopefully that process is quick. Not sure exactly how that works. If the sheriff has to sign something and send back or not. My sheriff is a lazy, ego headed ass. What can you expect from a democrat tho… |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:55:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Xerith: Had CA special order a GSL Phoenix for me. GSL are 8-10 weeks out. Hopefully that’s fairly spot on. My Nomad L I ordered, the noticed was sent to my sheriff and welt this week. Hopefully that process is quick. Not sure exactly how that works. If the sheriff has to sign something and send back or not. My sheriff is a lazy, ego headed ass. What can you expect from a democrat tho… nope they just have to have the he received it from the certified mail. Look at it this way...I think mine lets out a cuss word every time he gets one knowing he cant stop it. it brings a little warmth to my heart in the process. I was hoping for another 2 day on my other 2 cans setting out there but I am now at 10 days. I went head and did the 4473 for the ones that were approved, got me email this morning off to the 14day weight to ship was really hoping I would have the last two cans before the 13th since I was going to a shoot but no luck it will seem. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:59:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By willi3d: That doesn’t sound right if the CLEO got the 4473 on 11/13. The 7 days aren’t over until 11/20. I can’t believe that they shipped the cans to you before the 7 days were up. Even if you didn’t actually get them until 11/21, I’m very surprised they shipped them “at risk”. The date that Capitol Armory notifies you that the CLEO received the 4473 is not necessarily the date that the CLEO received the 4473. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 4:23:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rmdye: nope they just have to have the he received it from the certified mail. Look at it this way...I think mine lets out a cuss word every time he gets one knowing he cant stop it. it brings a little warmth to my heart in the process. I was hoping for another 2 day on my other 2 cans setting out there but I am now at 10 days. I went head and did the 4473 for the ones that were approved, got me email this morning off to the 14day weight to ship was really hoping I would have the last two cans before the 13th since I was going to a shoot but no luck it will seem. I waited for 3 cans bought at 3 different times to be approved last year before I filled out the 4473. I was out of town for work, so it wasn’t a big deal. You still get whacked with the shipping costs for each individual purchase, even if they ship together to you. I’m not waiting anymore for multiple stamps to come in, unless I’m out of town. If I’m paying the shipping anyway, I might as well fill out the 4473 as soon as I can. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/29/2024 10:07:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: dmk0210]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cardboardkiller: You still get whacked with the shipping costs for each individual purchase, even if they ship together to you. I'm not waiting anymore for multiple stamps to come in, unless I'm out of town. If I'm paying the shipping anyway, I might as well fill out the 4473 as soon as I can. After buying those two, I ordered three more cans in three separate orders. That totaled up to $75 in shipping charges. I just got one of those F4s approved. I went to sign the 4473 and CA gave me a notice that I should wait 7 days in case one of the other cans gets approved. They said if I continue, I might get charged an additional $39 if they have to send the cans separately. WTF? I continued anyway hoping this is a canned alert and the system assumes these are all in the same order. I'm going to be pissed if I get dinged for $114 in total shipping. @Joshua_CapitolArmory can you comment on this? |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:10:18 AM EDT
[#43]
It's been 4 days and not approved yet
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Posted: 3/29/2024 12:14:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmk0210: @Joshua_CapitolArmory can you comment on this? I can. The quick synopsis is a lot of folks have a misunderstanding of what and why this is the case. If you order one item at once and pay $30 for shipping, that doesn't even cover the hard costs of shipping for one package. Two to three items on one shipment, not much more cost on our end... so no problem there. We eat a bit, but no big deal. The issue involves multiple items on one order that get approved in quick succession, but folks choose not to wait even a few minutes, hours, or days. Now, instead of one 4473, one CLEO notice, and one shipment, it doubles everything, in turn costing us substantially more in both hard costs and employee time. It's also a labor-intensive process and significantly slows down everything. We just ask that folks expecting another approval in the very near future exercise just a bit of patience because it saves everyone involved substantial time and money. We aren't asking people to wait six months, or demanding they pay extra for arbitrary reasons. The ATF also does screwy things, and we aren't trying to profit off of random delays... but if they want to have expedited service and double the labor and costs, we simply ask they help cover that. (Again, we're talking about approvals that are expected to happen all about the same time... many times the notifications are within minutes or hours apart.) |
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MS, USA
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Posted: 3/29/2024 1:33:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmk0210: Yeah that's a little annoying. I've never ordered more than one can on a single order. I just got two cans delivered together in the same box last week. Two separate orders and I paid $59 total shipping for that. OK. There's a lot of paperwork with the 4473 registered mail and they simplify the process. It's a bit steep, but whatever. After buying those two, I ordered three more cans in three separate orders. That totaled up to $75 in shipping charges. I just got one of those F4s approved. I went to sign the 4473 and CA gave me a notice that I should wait 7 days in case one of the other cans gets approved. They said if I continue, I might get charged an additional $39 if they have to send the cans separately. WTF? I continued anyway hoping this is a canned alert and the system assumes these are all in the same order. I'm going to be pissed if I get dinged for $114 in total shipping. @Joshua_CapitolArmory can you comment on this? I should be getting 3 delivered today from 3 separate orders today with 3 separate shipping charges. I paid X price and they’ll be delivered for that price. If Capitol can make a few extra bucks, or not lose money during the process, I don’t mind. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 1:39:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmk0210: Yeah that's a little annoying. I've never ordered more than one can on a single order. I just got two cans delivered together in the same box last week. Two separate orders and I paid $59 total shipping for that. OK. There's a lot of paperwork with the 4473 registered mail and they simplify the process. It's a bit steep, but whatever. After buying those two, I ordered three more cans in three separate orders. That totaled up to $75 in shipping charges. I just got one of those F4s approved. I went to sign the 4473 and CA gave me a notice that I should wait 7 days in case one of the other cans gets approved. They said if I continue, I might get charged an additional $39 if they have to send the cans separately. WTF? I continued anyway hoping this is a canned alert and the system assumes these are all in the same order. I'm going to be pissed if I get dinged for $114 in total shipping. @Joshua_CapitolArmory can you comment on this? I had four delivered at one time but the shipping lady at CA reached out to me beforehand to ask if it was okay if she held onto them and shipped them at one time. I was happy to go this route as it seemed simpler for CA and less of a headache for me in trying to be home to sign for four different packages. My local dealer held my shipment for whatever reason. CA was awesome and upgraded my shipping to overnight delivery without me even asking for this; I just wanted my local dealer to drop my order off to UPS. My experience with CA in the purchasing of 11 cans has been tremendous. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 4:21:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: rmdye]
[#47]
they way I look at I try to wait. to help keep the work load down. this time I waited 10 days since I figured the other 2 would be approved 3 different orders shipping paid on each one 3 days apart had to check to make sure I could get the other 2 cans, one back in 2 days. so I am like ok the others should be getting here, 10 days no others and I really needed the first can I order and approved for a shoot I have coming up the 15th so I was like ok I will do the 4473 for this one. I try keep them together, but if they ever charge me extra to shipping I will have no problem with it if they call me due to cheaper than transfer fee dealers around here charge. its also worth its weight in gold that I dont have to deal with SS. I went to 10 differnt SS dealers and could not stand any of the 10. found one that was 1.5 hours away I could work with them and bought stuff from there store. but I would much rather deal with CA
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MS, USA
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Posted: 3/29/2024 6:46:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Glocked]
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Glocked: Earlier this month. Approval 1 Approved 3/5 4473 completed 3/6 CLEO non over the counter notice mailed 3/8 Approvals 2 & 3 Approved 3/8 4473 completed 3/8 CLEO non over the counter notice mailed 3/11 Received all 3 today 3/29, about the same approval till delivered wait as all my other CA orders. Makes for a extra nice Good Friday! Had to contact customer service, they replied within 7 minutes.  |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/29/2024 7:38:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dmk0210]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Glocked: I should be getting 3 delivered today from 3 separate orders today with 3 separate shipping charges. I paid X price and they'll be delivered for that price. If Capitol can make a few extra bucks, or not lose money during the process, I don't mind. But did they give you a notice that they wanted to charge you an extra $39 when you logged in to fill out your 4473? I've purchased 9 suppressors from CA in the last two years. I find it hard to believe they are losing money from selling suppressors to me. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/29/2024 7:39:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WVUSIG: I had four delivered at one time but the shipping lady at CA reached out to me beforehand to ask if it was okay if she held onto them and shipped them at one time. I was happy to go this route as it seemed simpler for CA and less of a headache for me in trying to be home to sign for four different packages. I would do that as well. |
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