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Posted: 3/23/2024 5:27:30 PM EDT
I just filed an eForm 1 for a .22lr SBR. The lower is engraved 5.56mm from the manufacturer. The barrel will be fully covered by the handguard. Is this laser engraving on the upper good enough, or do I need to engrave .22lr on the lower along with my name and location? There isn't much depth to it.
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MT, USA
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Posted: 3/23/2024 6:10:35 PM EDT
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You don't need to engrave anything but name/trust and city/state.
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 3/23/2024 6:35:23 PM EDT
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Just name city and state.My lower is multi thats all that was put on form.
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Posted: 3/23/2024 6:36:57 PM EDT
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Book states that the serial# needs to be on the receiver.
Model, caliber and maker info it can be on the barrel, frame receiver or slide. I'd say your good to go with the markings on the upper for caliber. I assume the model info is already on the lower so you just need to add your maker info, I prefer the lower for location myself. Can the caliber markings on the barrel be seen at all thru the HG or are they totally obscured to the point you'd have to remove the HG to see them? If they can be seen without disassembly that's good enough as well. |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 6:45:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ar15robert: Just name city and state.My lower is multi thats all that was put on form. Unless something changed recently, the examiner done F'd up... |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 6:46:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shultz: Book states that the serial# needs to be on the receiver. Model, caliber and maker info it can be on the barrel, frame receiver or slide. I'd say your good to go with the markings on the upper for caliber. I assume the model info is already on the lower so you just need to add your maker info, I prefer the lower for location myself. Can the caliber markings on the barrel be seen at all thru the HG or are they totally obscured to the point you'd have to remove the HG to see them? If they can be seen without disassembly that's good enough as well. There's no caliber marking on the barrel. That's a good idea though. I'll bring the barrel when I get the lower engraved and have him put 22lr in a spot where it can be seen through one of the cutouts in the handguard. Thanks. I can barely feel the engraving on the upper when dragging a fingernail across it so I don't think it's .003 deep. |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 6:47:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JBecker_72]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shultz: You got an approval with "multi" listed as caliber? Unless something changed recently, the examiner done F'd up... From what I understood the caliber needed to be on the form. |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 6:48:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JBecker_72: My lower has multi printed on it. The paperwork says 5.56. Only place the caliber is listed is on the barrel under the handguard. From what I understood the caliber needed to be on the form. |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 6:52:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: shultz]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eric496: There's no caliber marking on the barrel. That's a good idea though. I'll bring the barrel when I get the lower engraved and have him put 22lr in a spot where it can be seen through one of the cutouts in the handguard. Thanks. I can barely feel the engraving on the upper when dragging a fingernail across it so I don't think it's .003 deep. Edit: Since your having the barrel engraved, does any portion stick outside the HG? If yes, have it done there. CMMG for instance engraved the caliber right behind the muzzle threads so in most cases its easily visible. |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 7:09:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shultz: Ah, yeah if that engraving dosen't meet the requirement then it's a nogo sadly. Edit: Since your having the barrel engraved, does any portion stick outside the HG? If yes, have it done there. CMMG for instance engraved the caliber right behind the muzzle threads so in most cases its easily visible. Nope, 6" barrel and 7" handguard. There's some large cutouts in the handguard though. The barrel should work. My 12.5" 6.8 has the engraving right behind the the muzzle threads for that reason too. |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 7:17:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JBecker_72]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eric496: Nope, 6" barrel and 7" handguard. There's some large cutouts in the handguard though. The barrel should work. My 12.5" 6.8 has the engraving right behind the the muzzle threads for that reason too. Their lowers are marked multi. Edit: same for BCM. |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 7:26:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: shultz]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eric496: Nope, 6" barrel and 7" handguard. There's some large cutouts in the handguard though. The barrel should work. My 12.5" 6.8 has the engraving right behind the the muzzle threads for that reason too. |
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DE, USA
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Posted: 3/23/2024 10:01:12 PM EDT
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479.102(a)(2)
By engraving, casting, stamping (impressing), or otherwise conspicuously placing or causing to be engraved, cast, stamped (impressed) or placed on the frame or receiver, or barrel or pistol slide (if applicable) thereof certain additional information. This information must be placed in a manner not susceptible of being readily obliterated, altered, or removed. The additional information shall include: i.The model, if such designation has been made; ii.The caliber or gauge; |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 11:00:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By muniti: 479.102(a)(2) By engraving, casting, stamping (impressing), or otherwise conspicuously placing or causing to be engraved, cast, stamped (impressed) or placed on the frame or receiver, or barrel or pistol slide (if applicable) thereof certain additional information. This information must be placed in a manner not susceptible of being readily obliterated, altered, or removed. The additional information shall include: i.The model, if such designation has been made; ii.The caliber or gauge; This Doesn't hurt to put on receiver One of mine is marked "multi" but paper work is 22 caliber And that's what's engraved |
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Posted: 3/24/2024 4:08:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shultz: Book states that the serial# needs to be on the receiver. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shultz: Book states that the serial# needs to be on the receiver. "Book"? If referring to the NFA Handbook you shouldn't be because it was last updated in 2009 and the information is incorrect. Model, caliber and maker info it can be on the barrel, frame receiver or slide. Not any longer. "Maker" must be marked on the firearm frame or receiver. Barrel or slide is not acceptable. See § 479.102 Identification of firearms. I'd say your good to go with the markings on the upper for caliber. I assume the model info is already on the lower so you just need to add your maker info, I prefer the lower for location myself. Model, caliber or gauge, foreign manufacturer, country of manufacture markings may be placed on the frame, receiver, barrel or slide. |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 11:09:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spyderboy03: You don't need to engrave anything but name/trust and city/state. NFA Firearms are required to have a caliber. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 3/25/2024 11:56:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shultz: You got an approval with "multi" listed as caliber? Unless something changed recently, the examiner done F'd up... I just checked mine did have 5.56 listed on form. I know lower is marked multi though. |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 2:03:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RenegadeX: NFA Firearms are required to have a caliber. |
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