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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/9/2014 4:30:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By helogene:
My LGS went to their distributor's website when I asked about the weapon.... And, they ordered 3 of them, right then and there.... ONE for me, and two for the guy's working in the shop!!!! I'm holding my breath....... I think all of us that preordered are. Hoping for the best outcome on the stock discussion! |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 12/10/2014 1:56:44 AM EDT
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Any place I could order one?
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WA, USA
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Posted: 12/10/2014 3:47:04 AM EDT
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I got two coming from the LGS for $750 plus tax. :)
This was after sending my check to Only The Best. |
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Posted: 12/10/2014 6:51:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rtran:
I don't think you followed the initial release/preorder of this gun at all or else you would of known OTB was the first to post availability and listed at $995. For me, I got in line as soon as I could so I got a spot for one and beat any other potential mark up. I wanted to get one for sure and don't mind paying the $150 premium. I am also confident I could sell it for at least what I paid if not more since the initial batch of guns is already gone going by what CZ-USA said on their facebook. I also took a gamble on being able to SBR it as it's unclear at this point but I'm hoping it will come through and we will be able to form 1 these pistols. I can assure you the demand for these pistols will jump once everyone finds out we can, in fact, SBR them. If not, then you'll see this pistol posted for sale, simple as that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rtran:
Originally Posted By c7aea15:
No thanks. $1,000 for a gun with a MSRP of $850 when others have said they got it for less than $800 isn't bad? I don't think you followed the initial release/preorder of this gun at all or else you would of known OTB was the first to post availability and listed at $995. For me, I got in line as soon as I could so I got a spot for one and beat any other potential mark up. I wanted to get one for sure and don't mind paying the $150 premium. I am also confident I could sell it for at least what I paid if not more since the initial batch of guns is already gone going by what CZ-USA said on their facebook. I also took a gamble on being able to SBR it as it's unclear at this point but I'm hoping it will come through and we will be able to form 1 these pistols. I can assure you the demand for these pistols will jump once everyone finds out we can, in fact, SBR them. If not, then you'll see this pistol posted for sale, simple as that. Seems like you're not the one following preorders. People are saying they are getting them from low $700 to MSRP. So it's more than just a $150 premium. It could be over 25% which is pretty substantial. But it's your money. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/10/2014 7:58:56 AM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By c7aea15:
Seems like you're not the one following preorders. People are saying they are getting them from low $700 to MSRP. So it's more than just a $150 premium. It could be over 25% which is pretty substantial. But it's your money. This discussion is over, you can find the ORIGINAL CZ thread in GD about preorders. |
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Posted: 12/10/2014 8:23:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rtran:
This discussion is over, you can find the ORIGINAL CZ thread in GD about preorders. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rtran:
Originally Posted By c7aea15:
Seems like you're not the one following preorders. People are saying they are getting them from low $700 to MSRP. So it's more than just a $150 premium. It could be over 25% which is pretty substantial. But it's your money. This discussion is over, you can find the ORIGINAL CZ thread in GD about preorders.  ....
... lol Like he said, it's your money. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/10/2014 9:03:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: rtran]
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bruins:
....
... lol Like he said, it's your money. weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!! skorpion By the sounds of it, CZ needs to manufacture the stock in the US or offer enough US parts to be compliant for the guys who want to SBR. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/10/2014 10:55:20 AM EDT
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I may have to sell my CX4 and get this........
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Posted: 12/10/2014 7:06:26 PM EDT
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Fantastic timing! I have an Octane 9mm suppressor that I just bought and needed something to pair it to. An Evo plus SBR tax and stock for around a grand? Yep, think we have a winner, just wish the threads were standard.
Can anyone name a chest rig or some such that should work well with Evo mags? Thing would be a blast to take to a class. |
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Posted: 12/10/2014 8:18:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GatMo:
Fantastic timing! I have an Octane 9mm suppressor that I just bought and needed something to pair it to. An Evo plus SBR tax and stock for around a grand? Yep, think we have a winner, just wish the threads were standard. Can anyone name a chest rig or some such that should work well with Evo mags? Thing would be a blast to take to a class. Mags look roughly MP7 dimensions, so anything that fits those mags should work fine. Not much bigger around than MP5 mags. |
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Posted: 12/11/2014 1:23:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Bruins]
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RDTCU:
Mags look roughly MP7 dimensions, so anything that fits those mags should work fine. Not much bigger around than MP5 mags. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RDTCU:
Originally Posted By GatMo:
Fantastic timing! I have an Octane 9mm suppressor that I just bought and needed something to pair it to. An Evo plus SBR tax and stock for around a grand? Yep, think we have a winner, just wish the threads were standard. Can anyone name a chest rig or some such that should work well with Evo mags? Thing would be a blast to take to a class. Mags look roughly MP7 dimensions, so anything that fits those mags should work fine. Not much bigger around than MP5 mags. This. I was thinking the MP route as well. 
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Posted: 12/11/2014 9:20:17 PM EDT
[#12]
This one looks pretty cool.
Guy in the product review says it works well with MP5 and 10/22 mags so this should work no problem. |
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Posted: 12/11/2014 9:31:03 PM EDT
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I got another PC today, i guess I'm need some tacos.
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Posted: 12/12/2014 2:19:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GatMo:
This one looks pretty cool. https://www.blueforcegear.com/image/cache/data/TSP-CHESTRIG-MP7/TSP-CHESTRIG-MP7-Front-wf-600x400.jpg Guy in the product review says it works well with MP5 and 10/22 mags so this should work no problem. Nice. I like it. May have to spend some money. Thanks  ... 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/16/2014 9:36:40 AM EDT
[#15]
i wonder if the cz would look good with current ar15 stocks if the cz factory stock cant be obtained.
any photoshop guys in here? lol |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 2:04:22 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rtran:
i wonder if the cz would look good with current ar15 stocks if the cz factory stock cant be obtained. any photoshop guys in here? lol 
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Posted: 12/16/2014 4:54:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rtran:
i wonder if the cz would look good with current ar15 stocks if the cz factory stock cant be obtained. any photoshop guys in here? lol CZ-USA has already confirmed they'd be importing stocks. Now to SBR it and be in 922(r) compliance may be another thing. Time will tell. Ideally, Magpul would make US made mags for it and CGW would come out with an enhanced trigger pack, and 922(r) would be a moot point. 
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SD, USA
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Posted: 12/16/2014 5:50:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rtran:
i wonder if the cz would look good with current ar15 stocks if the cz factory stock cant be obtained. any photoshop guys in here? lol What are you, some kind of fucking animal? Have some decency. |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 5:55:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gazorpazorp:
What are you, some kind of fucking animal? Have some decency. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gazorpazorp:
Originally Posted By rtran:
i wonder if the cz would look good with current ar15 stocks if the cz factory stock cant be obtained. any photoshop guys in here? lol What are you, some kind of fucking animal? Have some decency. I think the MFT Minimalist is an aesthetically a great option for AR stock adapter where you might not want an AR looking stock. |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 6:10:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rtran:
i wonder if the cz would look good with current ar15 stocks if the cz factory stock cant be obtained. any photoshop guys in here? lol People have been called to the pit for less. |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 12/16/2014 6:37:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gazorpazorp:
What are you, some kind of fucking animal? Have some decency. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gazorpazorp:
Originally Posted By rtran:
i wonder if the cz would look good with current ar15 stocks if the cz factory stock cant be obtained. any photoshop guys in here? lol What are you, some kind of fucking animal? Have some decency. Thank you, my thoughts exactly. |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 9:13:17 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rtran:
i wonder if the cz would look good with current ar15 stocks if the cz factory stock cant be obtained. any photoshop guys in here? lol Blaspheme!!!!! 
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WA, USA
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Posted: 12/17/2014 1:14:29 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tifosi:
CZ-USA has already confirmed they'd be importing stocks. Now to SBR it and be in 922(r) compliance may be another thing. Time will tell. Ideally, Magpul would make US made mags for it and CGW would come out with an enhanced trigger pack, and 922(r) would be a moot point. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tifosi:
Originally Posted By rtran:
i wonder if the cz would look good with current ar15 stocks if the cz factory stock cant be obtained. any photoshop guys in here? lol CZ-USA has already confirmed they'd be importing stocks. Now to SBR it and be in 922(r) compliance may be another thing. Time will tell. Ideally, Magpul would make US made mags for it and CGW would come out with an enhanced trigger pack, and 922(r) would be a moot point. I started a thread on their page about them adopting the gun and producing USA made parts for the Evo, but they didnt seem super excited... although, nowadays they kind of keep quiet until stuff is concrete. Oh well, fingers still crossed 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/17/2014 8:16:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: rtran]
[#24]
hahaha struck a nerve with that one. I'm staying optimistic about the stock.
Regardless, if the stock is available I will SBR since I can machine whatever I need to replace parts on the evo. |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 12/24/2014 9:40:51 PM EDT
[#25]
Any new info on 922r compliance?
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Posted: 12/25/2014 9:44:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Osborne:
Any new info on 922r compliance? Not yet, the ATF is never in a hurry with these things... |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 12/25/2014 1:08:07 PM EDT
[#27]
I'm gonna wait till some decent reviews are out, and stock is state-side before making a purchase.
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Posted: 12/25/2014 2:30:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Osborne]
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RDTCU:
Not yet, the ATF is never in a hurry with these things... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RDTCU:
Originally Posted By Osborne:
Any new info on 922r compliance? Not yet, the ATF is never in a hurry with these things... Darn maybe that's a good sign. I bet if it was a no they would answer real quick haha. |
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Posted: 12/25/2014 6:18:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Osborne:
Darn maybe that's a good sign. I bet if it was a no they would answer real quick haha. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Osborne:
Originally Posted By RDTCU:
Originally Posted By Osborne:
Any new info on 922r compliance? Not yet, the ATF is never in a hurry with these things... Darn maybe that's a good sign. I bet if it was a no they would answer real quick haha. Nah, slow is normal. |
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Posted: 12/25/2014 10:40:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dan_Gray:
Nah, slow is normal. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dan_Gray:
Originally Posted By Osborne:
Originally Posted By RDTCU:
Originally Posted By Osborne:
Any new info on 922r compliance? Not yet, the ATF is never in a hurry with these things... Darn maybe that's a good sign. I bet if it was a no they would answer real quick haha. Nah, slow is normal. Ah, ok. |
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Posted: 12/26/2014 12:20:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LeonC:
I'm gonna wait till some decent reviews are out, and stock is state-side before making a purchase. Same here, I really like it, but I'm not in a rush to get it. Probably have a better chance at getting a good price on it by waiting until the supply/demand has settled down. That is unless the ATF has some bad news regarding 41P after the first of the year, then I will be in a hurry to buy it and get my Form 1 submitted. |
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Posted: 12/26/2014 5:43:53 AM EDT
[#32]
Looking at the handguard, and it sticks out at the bottom end... would I even be able to mount my Osprey9 if we figure out the thread issue?
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Posted: 12/26/2014 9:08:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RDTCU]
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Burnsy87:
Looking at the handguard, and it sticks out at the bottom end... would I even be able to mount my Osprey9 if we figure out the thread issue? By the time you add the thread adapter, you should be fine. If not, run it upside down 
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Posted: 12/26/2014 10:37:00 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Burnsy87:
Looking at the handguard, and it sticks out at the bottom end... would I even be able to mount my Osprey9 if we figure out the thread issue? CZ apparently has no problem mounting suppressors to it, but the Osprey is kind of a weird shape. But like was said, a simple adapter should provide plenty of clearance. 
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FL, USA
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Posted: 12/26/2014 2:54:25 PM EDT
[#35]
Oh man I really wanna SBR one.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 12/26/2014 6:55:49 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LeonC:
Oh man I really wanna SBR one. +1 |
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Posted: 12/26/2014 7:13:19 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LeonC:
Oh man I really wanna SBR one. You and me both. |
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Posted: 12/26/2014 7:17:49 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 5StarGeneral:
+1 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 5StarGeneral:
Originally Posted By LeonC:
Oh man I really wanna SBR one. +1 Same here, but I'm also waiting on the Sig MPX. I might end up with the one that actually becomes available first & can be sbr'd. For price, you cant beat the CZ, but I like the MPX looks better. Not too sure it's worth twice the price of the CZ tho... |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 12/26/2014 11:58:17 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MidMichHunter:
Same here, but I'm also waiting on the Sig MPX. I might end up with the one that actually becomes available first & can be sbr'd. For price, you cant beat the CZ, but I like the MPX looks better. Not too sure it's worth twice the price of the CZ tho... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MidMichHunter:
Originally Posted By 5StarGeneral:
Originally Posted By LeonC:
Oh man I really wanna SBR one. +1 Same here, but I'm also waiting on the Sig MPX. I might end up with the one that actually becomes available first & can be sbr'd. For price, you cant beat the CZ, but I like the MPX looks better. Not too sure it's worth twice the price of the CZ tho... I want an MPX too, but I can't justify the price. $1600 will get me an SBR Scorpion and a 9mm AAC can. |
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Posted: 12/27/2014 12:05:24 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LeonC:
I want an MPX too, but I can't justify the price. $1600 will get me an SBR Scorpion and a 9mm AAC can. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LeonC:
Originally Posted By MidMichHunter:
Originally Posted By 5StarGeneral:
Originally Posted By LeonC:
Oh man I really wanna SBR one. +1 Same here, but I'm also waiting on the Sig MPX. I might end up with the one that actually becomes available first & can be sbr'd. For price, you cant beat the CZ, but I like the MPX looks better. Not too sure it's worth twice the price of the CZ tho... I want an MPX too, but I can't justify the price. $1600 will get me an SBR Scorpion and a 9mm AAC can. And 8 or so extra 30 round mags |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 12/27/2014 2:27:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: LeonC]
[#41]
Anyone know the ETA for these hitting the market?
Also anyone know if an AAC Tirant would work? |
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NE, USA
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Posted: 12/27/2014 1:24:25 PM EDT
[#42]
CZ says Jan. Anything with an adapter should work.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 12/27/2014 1:54:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LeonC]
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Escotch:
CZ says Jan. Anything with an adapter should work. AAC tirant is thread mounted. Which leads me to my next question? What kind of threads does the Scorpion have? Can you mount a can on the threads of the Scorpion? |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 12/27/2014 4:19:50 PM EDT
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Here's the manual for it.
It has the length of it with stock, which should help with SBRing purposes. http://www.czub.cz/zbrojovka/cz-manual/Instruction-Manual-Scorpion-EVO-3-A1_en.pdf |
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Posted: 12/27/2014 5:27:36 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LeonC:
AAC tirant is thread mounted. Which leads me to my next question? What kind of threads does the Scorpion have? Can you mount a can on the threads of the Scorpion? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LeonC:
Originally Posted By Escotch:
CZ says Jan. Anything with an adapter should work. AAC tirant is thread mounted. Which leads me to my next question? What kind of threads does the Scorpion have? Can you mount a can on the threads of the Scorpion? They are saying 18mmx1 thread pitch. Nothing on the suppressor market domestically (that I know of) that has that thread pitch. Having said that, an 18x1 to 1/2-28 adapter should be small work for any garage shop machinist.
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Posted: 12/27/2014 6:26:02 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MidMichHunter:
Same here, but I'm also waiting on the Sig MPX. I might end up with the one that actually becomes available first & can be sbr'd. For price, you cant beat the CZ, but I like the MPX looks better. Not too sure it's worth twice the price of the CZ tho... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MidMichHunter:
Originally Posted By 5StarGeneral:
Originally Posted By LeonC:
Oh man I really wanna SBR one. +1 Same here, but I'm also waiting on the Sig MPX. I might end up with the one that actually becomes available first & can be sbr'd. For price, you cant beat the CZ, but I like the MPX looks better. Not too sure it's worth twice the price of the CZ tho... Same. Once the CZ was announced it was hard to ignore given the price point, especially compared to the MPX, but I like the MPX because it carries the same lines of the classic MP5 and I find it hard to enjoy the clunky look of the EVO. I guess aesthetics really shouldn't matter that much but I can't help but see a Nerf blaster instead of a serious firearm when looking at the CZ. Kind of kills it for me. |
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Posted: 12/27/2014 6:54:50 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GatMo:
Same. Once the CZ was announced it was hard to ignore given the price point, especially compared to the MPX, but I like the MPX because it carries the same lines of the classic MP5 and I find it hard to enjoy the clunky look of the EVO. I guess aesthetics really shouldn't matter that much but I can't help but see a Nerf blaster instead of a serious firearm when looking at the CZ. Kind of kills it for me. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GatMo:
Originally Posted By MidMichHunter:
Originally Posted By 5StarGeneral:
Originally Posted By LeonC:
Oh man I really wanna SBR one. +1 Same here, but I'm also waiting on the Sig MPX. I might end up with the one that actually becomes available first & can be sbr'd. For price, you cant beat the CZ, but I like the MPX looks better. Not too sure it's worth twice the price of the CZ tho... Same. Once the CZ was announced it was hard to ignore given the price point, especially compared to the MPX, but I like the MPX because it carries the same lines of the classic MP5 and I find it hard to enjoy the clunky look of the EVO. I guess aesthetics really shouldn't matter that much but I can't help but see a Nerf blaster instead of a serious firearm when looking at the CZ. Kind of kills it for me. The CZ does look clunky doesn't it? I think Battlestar Galactica when I look at it. The cost of mags is also going to be factored into my decision; $20 for the CZ and $60-$70 for the MPX??? Did I see that right? I wonder if there is going to be availability issues on either once they launch. |
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Posted: 12/27/2014 6:58:41 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MidMichHunter:
The CZ does look clunky doesn't it? I think Battlestar Galactica when I look at it. The cost of mags is also going to be factored into my decision; $20 for the CZ and $60-$70 for the MPX??? Did I see that right? I wonder if there is going to be availability issues on either once they launch. I see a gun that's actually been proven to be an effective tool in gunfights. That's what matters to me. |
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Posted: 12/27/2014 7:08:27 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dan_Gray:
I see a gun that's actually been proven to be an effective tool in gunfights. That's what matters to me. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dan_Gray:
Originally Posted By MidMichHunter:
The CZ does look clunky doesn't it? I think Battlestar Galactica when I look at it. The cost of mags is also going to be factored into my decision; $20 for the CZ and $60-$70 for the MPX??? Did I see that right? I wonder if there is going to be availability issues on either once they launch. I see a gun that's actually been proven to be an effective tool in gunfights. That's what matters to me. Can't argue with that. Just glad I don't find myself in a lot of gun fights, if I did, I'd want my 556 SBR, |
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Posted: 12/27/2014 7:19:57 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MidMichHunter:
Can't argue with that. Just glad I don't find myself in a lot of gun fights, if I did, I'd want my 556 SBR, Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MidMichHunter:
Originally Posted By Dan_Gray:
Originally Posted By MidMichHunter:
The CZ does look clunky doesn't it? I think Battlestar Galactica when I look at it. The cost of mags is also going to be factored into my decision; $20 for the CZ and $60-$70 for the MPX??? Did I see that right? I wonder if there is going to be availability issues on either once they launch. I see a gun that's actually been proven to be an effective tool in gunfights. That's what matters to me. Can't argue with that. Just glad I don't find myself in a lot of gun fights, if I did, I'd want my 556 SBR, It's a standard of reliability I want in every gun I own. This may very well become my wife's HD gun, once the stamp is back and the piston is made for my TiRant 9. My machinist is going to start on it next week. |
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