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Posted: 11/2/2022 12:58:34 PM EDT
 Belgian Gendarmerie FAL Parts Kits from FN America FN Kits incoming via lottery on FN America |
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Posted: 11/2/2022 1:39:15 PM EDT
[#1]
Put my name in the hat, seems pretty cool.
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Posted: 11/2/2022 1:42:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: YaBoyKGTho]
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By billytehbob: Put my name in the hat, seems pretty cool. As did I. Apparently the demand at FN has been very strong. |
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Posted: 11/2/2022 2:26:21 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By billytehbob: Put my name in the hat, seems pretty cool. |
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Posted: 11/2/2022 6:31:08 PM EDT
[#4]
What's lame is that Californians are excluded from participating in either sweepstake, so I'm out, even though I want to participate. No legal basis for not being able to participate in the parts kit one, and very little for the rifle one if FN America is willing to give even a tiny bit of effort as I'm sure they do for other FN rifles sold to Californians. Ironically, our ban may be a thing of the past before the entry period ends.
A few of the missing parts are a bit odd (the only ones that can't be imported are the barrel and receiver). |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 11/2/2022 7:04:39 PM EDT
[#5]
Anyone know who makes the receiver in the rifle they're giving away? It just lists it as "FN/Aftermarket receiver."
Very curious. |
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Posted: 11/2/2022 7:11:01 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Michigan_Man: Anyone know who makes the receiver in the rifle they're giving away? It just lists it as "FN/Aftermarket receiver." Very curious. I'm guessing DSA rec and bbl. Anyone have a price on the kit if you win the chance to buy? |
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Posted: 11/2/2022 7:44:58 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MisterPX: I'm guessing DSA rec and bbl. Anyone have a price on the kit if you win the chance to buy? $900 |
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Posted: 11/2/2022 7:45:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bigstick61]
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MisterPX: I'm guessing DSA rec and bbl. Anyone have a price on the kit if you win the chance to buy? $900. A little high but not totally out of line considering how high parts kit prices have jumped in the last few years. These rifles either had 21" bipod-cut barrels with a combo device, 21" barrels with a cup discharger for canister type grenades, or barrels that were cut down as short as possible originally 21", though). I think some were issued with bipods, but I can't recall for sure. They were also issued with ten-round mags, supposedly. |
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Posted: 11/3/2022 11:03:37 AM EDT
[#9]
Sofa King!
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Posted: 11/3/2022 2:19:25 PM EDT
[#10]
Mao put his name in the hat
 Ian mentioned in the video that something was being worked on regarding barrels and receivers. I'm guessing DSA may do a run of Type I receivers with Belgian/French language markings? I honestly know zip squat about the FAL, namely because DSA's never interested me much and I didn't have the money way back when to buy a preban Belgian FAL when I came across one. I see DSA now sells chrome lined 18 and 21" barrels which is a plus. A new FN CHF blank would be sweeter though. Not sure why I care because I'm an AK/SCAR guy
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Posted: 11/3/2022 6:27:44 PM EDT
[#11]
The Fal kit shown in the pics is a type 3 lower which means the upper would have been a late production CAST TYPE III NOT A TYPE I
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USA
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Posted: 11/3/2022 6:50:23 PM EDT
[#12]
To be fair Ian calls them "Fals" and not "Ef Ay Ells" and has missed some other details in the past. I immediately caught the lower cut when he said that, but it's ok.
I tossed my name in as well. |
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Posted: 11/3/2022 7:07:47 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThatGuy01: To be fair Ian calls them "Fals" and not "Ef Ay Ells" and has missed some other details in the past. I immediately caught the lower cut when he said that, but it's ok. I tossed my name in as well. From what I recall, the Belgian pronunciation is close to that of the word "fall", which is how I saw it. Some folks here say the letters or pronounce the acronym in a way that rhymes with the word "pal", which I find the oddest. |
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Posted: 11/3/2022 7:08:59 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DSArms_FAL: The Fal kit shown in the pics is a type 3 lower which means the upper would have been a late production CAST TYPE III NOT A TYPE I Type 4. The Type 3s were forged, although my dad's 1980s FN has a Type 4 upper and Type 2 lower. |
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Posted: 11/5/2022 7:23:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigstick61: Type 4. The Type 3s were forged, although my dad's 1980s FN has a Type 4 upper and Type 2 lower. I can see why someone with consider a cast type 3 to be a type 4 but I see the Argentine late production type 3ish to be the type 4 receiver. The late Argentine type 3/4 has many different contours and cuts compared to type 3s. When I was down in Argentina doing FAL upgrades I discovered just how different they were when a extended scope mount would not fit correctly due to the contour change. I have to remachine the front of the mount to get it to fit the receiver. |
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Posted: 11/5/2022 10:44:43 AM EDT
[#16]
I've been on the FALfiles since 2002 and I never knew there was a Type 4.
I'll have to get my Argentine FAL out of the safe and look at it later today to see what it is. |
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Posted: 11/5/2022 11:43:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: DSArms_FAL]
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EMSflyer: I've been on the FALfiles since 2002 and I never knew there was a Type 4. I'll have to get my Argentine FAL out of the safe and look at it later today to see what it is. I doubt your Imported Argentine is a “type 4” because DGFM told me the guns I was worked on were very late production and they made changes on this last run FAL rifles. They were new in the box rifles I think they had like 10-12k of them. Also these contour and cut changes are very subtle and hard to notice. I didn’t see the difference till we started to install the mounts. I then looked closer extremely closer and saw radius, profile and contour changes. |
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Posted: 11/5/2022 11:53:31 AM EDT
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MO, USA
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Posted: 11/5/2022 12:21:24 PM EDT
[#19]
I have the books from Collector Grade, and been into FAL's for awhile.
There is no type 4. |
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Posted: 11/5/2022 1:37:57 PM EDT
[#20]
Maybe it's just an Argentine designation they use themselves?
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Posted: 11/5/2022 7:50:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bigstick61]
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EMSflyer: I've been on the FALfiles since 2002 and I never knew there was a Type 4. I'll have to get my Argentine FAL out of the safe and look at it later today to see what it is. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EMSflyer: I've been on the FALfiles since 2002 and I never knew there was a Type 4. I'll have to get my Argentine FAL out of the safe and look at it later today to see what it is. FAL Files is where I first heard the terminology. This was the post I saw that was the first I saw referring to them as such: In 1982 FNH went from a Forging to a Casting and they called a type 4. That lasted until 1988 when FN stopped production of all Fal's. Lack of total sales world wide killed the FAL. FN eliminated the radius cut on the front right of the magazine well and went with a more straight line for the investment casting to simplify manufacturing even further. Which meant that all GSI imported Fals from 1982 till the end were investment casting's unless there was older Fal's from former contracts that were canceled before payment was due on shipping. Parts that were cast were, Upper receiver Lower receiver and Para Type C bayonet and latch 22mm combo grenade launching muzzle brake Bi-Pod top leg swivel Cocking handle Selector lever Gas Block Trigger Sear Magazine release lever Safety sear Para Cocking handle Para release button Rotating sling swivel base Front sling swivel There is definitely a visible difference between these late receivers and the Type 3s. The switch from forged to cast is not the only difference between them. Paco over there also showed a lower from this generation which is also notably different from any Type 3 lower I've seen and I've seen members over there refer to this type as a Type 4 as well. The late IMBELs, while still forged, had the contours of the late FN receivers, while earlier rifles did not (and the center receiver sections that came in with the IMBEL kits contain the main difference). I've seen the terminology used by a number of members on the FAL Files including gunplumber, but I'm not certain of the original source for the terminology. Anyhow, the contours above the magazine well are what made me say it's not a Type 3. They are like the very late production receivers. |
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Posted: 11/6/2022 8:45:17 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EMSflyer: Maybe it's just an Argentine designation they use themselves? They didn’t have a different name for the last receiver. It’s not like the late FN cast and doesn’t mimic the radius of ether a type 3 or type 4 and it’s forged not cast. |
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Posted: 11/7/2022 4:47:57 PM EDT
[#23]
 I put my name in. Will keep my fingers crossed. |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 11/7/2022 6:13:45 PM EDT
[#24]
What the hell, I'll give it a shot.
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Posted: 11/7/2022 8:41:20 PM EDT
[#25]
I once made a damascus blade for a that style bayonet.
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Posted: 11/12/2022 11:05:51 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jos51700: I have the books from Collector Grade, and been into FAL's for awhile. There is no type 4. Read the Collector Grade book, "The Fabeled FAL" They talk about them in there. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 12/5/2022 8:38:26 PM EDT
[#27]
Did anyone on here purchase one of these kits? What would be the best resource for someone to look at for assembling one of these?
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Posted: 12/6/2022 12:03:13 PM EDT
[#28]
Send kit, new receiver and the required compliance parts to:
Mark Graham at Arizona Response Systems. |
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Posted: 12/6/2022 12:21:36 PM EDT
[#29]
Have any been sold yet?
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MO, USA
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Posted: 12/6/2022 3:02:43 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By prosecondman: Have any been sold yet? I got an email with a code to purchase one. I was just trying to see if anyone else had gotten one. I'm just kind of reading up on it now. Obviously I missed the hey day of FALs. |
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Posted: 12/6/2022 7:35:09 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Foog00: I got an email with a code to purchase one. I was just trying to see if anyone else had gotten one. I'm just kind of reading up on it now. Obviously I missed the hey day of FALs. Well darn. |
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Posted: 12/6/2022 7:49:04 PM EDT
[#32]
I would like the chance to buy one. Hopefully still a chance.
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MO, USA
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Posted: 12/6/2022 8:21:21 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By prosecondman: I would like the chance to buy one. Hopefully still a chance. I think I read there were three drawings and the giveaway rifle isn't announced until February. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 12/6/2022 8:22:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Foog00]
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EMSflyer: Send kit, new receiver and the required compliance parts to: Mark Graham at Arizona Response Systems. Thanks for the recommendation info. I think I have seen his name referenced elsewhere. |
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USA
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Posted: 12/6/2022 8:24:52 PM EDT
[#35]
I got my purchase code for one yesterday and it is on its way. They told me to call FNH USA directly (not the Estore) for deets on what the kits are/where they were/ possible configuration.
I'm tempted to get a DSA receiver, 16" or 18" barrel, and a para conversion kit and make it some semblance of a para. |
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Posted: 12/6/2022 11:12:36 PM EDT
[#36]
Got my code this evening, so I just ordered. Be interesting to see what shows up!
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Posted: 12/6/2022 11:30:06 PM EDT
[#37]
I got my code...was gonna order......then stopped by the pawn shop and saw a SAR48 for 1499. It has problems like no rear sight, it has a cheesy scope mount and leupold rifle scope and it's missing the flash hider and has some muzzle brake on it.
No magazine.....Got it for $1350....all of the stuff can be fixed. Fuck that shit waiting for a DSA receiver and barrel..... $1350 for a pre ban SAR48 made by an FN licensed factory...... |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 11:40:59 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jozsi: I got my code...was gonna order......then stopped by the pawn shop and saw a SAR48 for 1499. It has problems like no rear sight, it has a cheesy scope mount and leupold rifle scope and it's missing the flash hider and has some muzzle brake on it. No magazine.....Got it for $1350....all of the stuff can be fixed. Fuck that shit waiting for a DSA receiver and barrel..... $1350 for a pre ban SAR48 made by an FN licensed factory...... Nice score !! Return her to her former glory !! SAR48s are soooo nice. |
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Posted: 12/8/2022 8:19:43 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jozsi: I got my code...was gonna order......then stopped by the pawn shop and saw a SAR48 for 1499. It has problems like no rear sight, it has a cheesy scope mount and leupold rifle scope and it's missing the flash hider and has some muzzle brake on it. No magazine.....Got it for $1350....all of the stuff can be fixed. Fuck that shit waiting for a DSA receiver and barrel..... $1350 for a pre ban SAR48 made by an FN licensed factory...... Yep!! Would've gotten that also at that price! Good score!! |
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JPN
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Posted: 12/12/2022 3:47:57 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jozsi: $1350 for a pre ban SAR48 made by an FN licensed factory...... Nice catch! If I was back in the US I would send you a rear sight just for the cost of shipping. I have a couple lying around from Para FAL builds I did in the past. They came off of Chilean parts kits so technically they would be the correct pedigree for a SAR 48. If a business trip unexpectedly pops up in my schedule anytime soon I will let you know. |
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Posted: 12/22/2022 12:19:17 AM EDT
[#41]
Idk if the unique codes are tied to an email address. But I got one and I am not going to order. PM me for it and I'll send it in the reply.
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Posted: 12/22/2022 9:45:54 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K1rodeoboater: Idk if the unique codes are tied to an email address. But I got one and I am not going to order. PM me for it and I'll send it in the reply. @Canoeguy |
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Posted: 12/22/2022 10:20:05 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The-White-Dog: @Canoeguy Thanks |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 12/31/2022 3:12:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Foog00]
[#44]
I emailed them for info.
'"Kits will start shipping in January once we have received them from FN America." |
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Posted: 12/31/2022 5:50:22 AM EDT
[#45]
anyone else get a code they wont be using?
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LA, USA
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Posted: 12/31/2022 4:21:13 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jwc179: anyone else get a code they wont be using? I was just on their website and loaded one into cart and it allows checkout. Not sure what’s up with that but maybe just place the order? |
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Posted: 12/31/2022 6:38:34 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SapperSCLA2: I was just on their website and loaded one into cart and it allows checkout. Not sure what’s up with that but maybe just place the order? Link? |
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USA
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Posted: 12/31/2022 10:07:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stimpsonjcat: Link? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stimpsonjcat: Originally Posted By SapperSCLA2: I was just on their website and loaded one into cart and it allows checkout. Not sure what’s up with that but maybe just place the order? Link? https://fnestore.com/fn-fal-kit tried to check out, but I get an error message "There are 1 or more items in your cart that are not legally allowed to ship to your selected destination. If you believe this to be an error, please contact Customer Service at (844) 897-0675." |
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Posted: 12/31/2022 10:34:53 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Izhevsk54r: https://fnestore.com/fn-fal-kit tried to check out, but I get an error message "There are 1 or more items in your cart that are not legally allowed to ship to your selected destination. If you believe this to be an error, please contact Customer Service at (844) 897-0675." Thank you. |
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Posted: 1/1/2023 4:48:51 AM EDT
[#50]
I probably won't be lucky enough to get a code so if anyone gets one and decide they don't want to use it i'd love to take it off your hands.
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