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Posted: 9/7/2012 8:07:00 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/16/2012 5:34:54 PM EDT
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Just read the entire thread. I am impressed with the marpat, surpat and the a-tacs fg.
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 10/17/2012 12:57:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 0uTkAsT]
[#3]
Originally Posted By smaddox:
Just read the entire thread. I am impressed with the marpat, surpat and the a-tacs fg. Same here. This is an EXCELLENT thread and I'm sub'd. I'd be really curious how well urban MARPAT or Propper Urban Digital does in various environments. I have a set of Propper Urban Digital (like this) and haven't had the chance to really use it. I picked it up because I live in a very urbanized area, but I'm thinking it may also blend in to thick vegetation and other areas with lots of shadows well, perhaps better than ACU or old school Woodland? Is this something anyone would be willing to test for us? Please? 
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PA, USA
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Posted: 10/20/2012 12:19:35 PM EDT
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If one was pretty much starting from scratch, what would you get for the northeast that is nir compliant?
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Posted: 10/23/2012 8:31:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Caeser2001:
If one was pretty much starting from scratch, what would you get for the northeast that is nir compliant? Something in 50/50 NYCO. Old school woodland, or maybe multicam. Tru-Spec's new All Terrain Tiger may be viable. Its 50/50 NYCO but I dont know whether its NIR compliant or not. |
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Posted: 10/23/2012 8:32:05 PM EDT
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Something cool this way comes....
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Posted: 10/23/2012 9:37:59 PM EDT
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Is that the atacs fg?
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Posted: 10/24/2012 9:07:52 AM EDT
[#8]
Nope.... Pencott Greenzone.....
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Posted: 10/24/2012 9:42:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: smaddox]
[#9]
That is the best so far for this time of year.
Where did you get it?
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USA
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Posted: 10/24/2012 2:45:04 PM EDT
[#10]
wish they would get rid of the huge velcro patches
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Posted: 10/24/2012 3:08:49 PM EDT
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That might be the SOD Gear combat shirt. I have the Sabre Defence (German company) Smock, Jacket, and trousers, myself. It's an awesome pattern for the UK.  |
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Posted: 10/24/2012 3:21:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ImpacTT: wish they would get rid of the huge velcro patches My Sabre Smock and Shirt came with Pencott GreenZone velcro patches to cover them up when not being used. Well, apart from the two thin velcro strips above the breast pockets on the combat shirt. The shirt only has covers for the arm ones. |
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USA
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Posted: 10/24/2012 4:28:21 PM EDT
[#13]
yep, same on my SORD uniforms. I like the idea.
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Posted: 10/24/2012 8:49:25 PM EDT
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They arent SOD, SORD, etc.... These arent available yet, but should be in the next 3-4 months hopefully.
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Posted: 10/25/2012 11:35:37 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hawkeye: Cool. Post more pics when you know more, please. They arent SOD, SORD, etc.... These arent available yet, but should be in the next 3-4 months hopefully.  |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 10/26/2012 11:21:18 AM EDT
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I am thinking about buying a set of BDU's. Who do you guys think is higher quality, Tru-Spec or Genuine Gear? Which is more comfortable? Which is more functional? Thanks.
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AK, USA
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Posted: 10/26/2012 11:24:31 AM EDT
[#17]
That greenzone works great.
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Posted: 11/6/2012 7:22:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/22/2013 9:01:48 AM EDT
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Pencott Badlands.
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Posted: 1/22/2013 7:55:19 PM EDT
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Is it just me or do the tan/green boots really show up more than a black/brown pair? Something about them that draw my eye there in most of these pics.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/22/2013 8:54:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Red_Six]
[#21]
I love the Pencott stuff it all works great but to me the Greenzone looks like German WW2 SS oak leaf camo scaled down in size.
Still want the Greenzone set none the less!
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Posted: 1/22/2013 10:14:01 PM EDT
[#22]
That looks great in your AO. I really enjoy your videos!
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PA, USA
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Posted: 2/9/2013 10:11:31 AM EDT
[#23]
Bump to the 1st page.
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 2/9/2013 12:40:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Caeser2001:
Bump to the 1st page. x2, this is a great thread. I'm hoping others in different AOs will chime in and compare patterns in different environments (desert, high desert, urban, etc.) |
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Posted: 3/14/2013 3:32:13 PM EDT
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Any updates?
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UT, USA
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Posted: 3/15/2013 10:31:25 AM EDT
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As a camo nerd, i also am wondering if there is anything new to report
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Posted: 3/16/2013 11:02:21 PM EDT
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Sorry, no updates at the moment. Trying to wrap up moving and getting resettled. Work has also been crazy busy.......
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/16/2013 11:58:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hawkeye: Sorry, no updates at the moment. Trying to wrap up moving and getting resettled. Work has also been crazy busy....... Well, let's keep this thread alive - lot's of good info here |
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Posted: 3/17/2013 3:27:30 AM EDT
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Love the thread btw.
I have a test I'm hoping to do this summer up here in AK. I have some ATACS fabric, and am hoping to get a sample of ATACS FG to compare it to. I just need to figure out where to get it lol. Any recommendations? Once I lose some weight I'll buy an actual set of gear from propper and do an actual test. I just dont want to buy until I'm not a size fatass. 
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PA, USA
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Posted: 4/13/2013 3:15:42 PM EDT
[#30]
Free bump.
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Posted: 5/18/2013 1:51:45 PM EDT
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Hawkeye, are there mfrs whose camo is known to be IR-suppressive/non-reflective, or, are there mfrs whose camo is known to not suppress and/or reflect IR?
IOW, which mfrs camo cloth meets GI specs for IR, and which mfrs clothing does not meet same specs? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/19/2013 7:32:50 PM EDT
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has anyone ever made something in Urban MARPAT? the USMC patented it but never put it into use
 maybe after the MARPAT patent expires in 2015 someone will put it into production... |
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Posted: 5/20/2013 12:46:24 AM EDT
[#33]
Originally Posted By mcantu:
has anyone ever made something in Urban MARPAT? the USMC patented it but never put it into use http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e289/jv444/urban_MARPAT.jpg maybe after the MARPAT patent expires in 2015 someone will put it into production... wouldn't mind having some of that around for future projects |
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Posted: 5/20/2013 10:04:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By raf:
Hawkeye, are there mfrs whose camo is known to be IR-suppressive/non-reflective, or, are there mfrs whose camo is known to not suppress and/or reflect IR? IOW, which mfrs camo cloth meets GI specs for IR, and which mfrs clothing does not meet same specs? To my knowledge, most 50/50 NYCO material is NIR compliant and most Poly/Cotton material isn't. I cant say that for 100% certainty across the spectrum though. Maybe Uniformguy will chime in with something more concrete. I do know that (in my own experience) in regards to Poly/Cotton materials, just looking at them with a -14, some do significantly better than others. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 5/20/2013 11:37:25 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Originally Posted By mcantu:
has anyone ever made something in Urban MARPAT? the USMC patented it but never put it into use http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e289/jv444/urban_MARPAT.jpg maybe after the MARPAT patent expires in 2015 someone will put it into production... wouldn't mind having some of that around for future projects +1
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TN, USA
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Posted: 5/20/2013 10:39:42 PM EDT
[#36]
Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Originally Posted By mcantu:
has anyone ever made something in Urban MARPAT? the USMC patented it but never put it into use http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e289/jv444/urban_MARPAT.jpg maybe after the MARPAT patent expires in 2015 someone will put it into production... wouldn't mind having some of that around for future projects It really is beautiful...
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/22/2013 1:27:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 0uTkAsT]
[#37]
I do a lot of hunting in military camouflage and I was curious about Urban MARPAT for some time. I like the MARPAT quite a bit on paper but I wasn't able to find any to try when I was looking for it. That's when I found Propper's Subdued Urban Digital, which is similar but darker overall and contains no green. I got a full set of the Propper "SUD" a while back but I haven't had the time to do a write-up and I usually go out alone so I can't get pictures worthy of posting in this thread.
I will say that for the most part I like it and I think it works better in some wilderness areas than in urban areas around me. To the human eye, the subdued urban digital conceals much better in barren, open, rocky places than Sitka's camo, which is what I used to hunt the high country in (and as a side note, I think Air Force Digital Tiger Stripe works very well in rocky country too, especially where it remains moist and blue/green moss is present). The SUD is also very good in areas with a predominance of volcanic rock, in low light conditions (perfect for night time coyote and pig hunts) and I think it would do just fine in almost any heavily shadowed environment regardless of ambient coloring. It is too dark to use in snow unless there is just a light dusting with lots of exposed spots. With all that said, I mentioned it works better outside of town than it does in the urban areas around me. I live in central AZ where even very heavily developed inner city environments are dusty and brownish, so a bit of tan undertone would make it much more versatile as a tactical uniform. I may get a second set and dye some light tan color in to it for that reason. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/22/2013 8:17:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: albatrossarmament]
[#38]
Is this it? Way too dark to work well in most environments if you ask me....I would like to see pics of it in your AO
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UT, USA
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Posted: 5/22/2013 10:49:42 AM EDT
[#39]
Originally Posted By albatrossarmament:
Is this it? Way too dark to work well in most environments if you ask me....I would like to see pics of it in your AO http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2859/8777899083_a928612ddb_b.jpg that looks like the navy version to me, and i think they use it as a work uniform, as opposed to actual camo |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/22/2013 12:14:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 0uTkAsT]
[#40]
Originally Posted By chris1845:
Originally Posted By albatrossarmament:
Is this it? Way too dark to work well in most environments if you ask me....I would like to see pics of it in your AO http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2859/8777899083_a928612ddb_b.jpg that looks like the navy version to me, and i think they use it as a work uniform, as opposed to actual camo No, I think that is some form of urban digital, not the NWU digital. But I will say that my Propper SUD does not look that dark. Maybe its just from repeat washings or something though, because the pattern is definitely very similar. When I Googled Subdued Urban Digital, I came up with a lot of results but the truest representation I can find color-wise is of this Rothco t-shirt. 
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Posted: 5/22/2013 3:13:00 PM EDT
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Has anyone started trying out the effectiveness of Kryptec's line?
This is Travis Haley wearing their black "Typhoon" and their woodland camo. 
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UT, USA
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Posted: 5/22/2013 3:57:43 PM EDT
[#42]
Originally Posted By PFC_Dustin:
Has anyone started trying out the effectiveness of Kryptec's line? This is Travis Haley wearing their black "Typhoon" and their woodland camo. http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n506/DDustin5/892468_518356398201685_1155026845_o_zps35a0cb20.jpg http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n506/DDustin5/466257_518355204868471_1857985164_o_zps061aaf44.jpg http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n506/DDustin5/465854_518354878201837_644611521_o_zps9b8c5cd1.jpg http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n506/DDustin5/904873_518354871535171_775741587_o_zps9039e3d3.jpg I got a pack from Grey Ghost in Kryptec Mandrake and it disappears out here, especially right now.... |
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Posted: 5/22/2013 7:58:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TaskForce]
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TN, USA
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Posted: 5/22/2013 8:28:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Blacktide:
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w72/enderwood/kryptek_zps17b14317.jpg Meh. I imagine MC would be more effective, but it looks cool.
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Posted: 5/22/2013 8:30:23 PM EDT
[#45]
Originally Posted By MP0117:
Originally Posted By Blacktide:
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w72/enderwood/kryptek_zps17b14317.jpg Meh. I imagine MC would be more effective, but it looks cool. Yeah multicam is still superior as a practical camo for most places. Kryptek is slightly better in some environments. |
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Posted: 5/25/2013 10:34:27 PM EDT
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Kryptek mandrake, pic from BCM.
Highlander, pic from HSP: 
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Posted: 5/31/2013 9:35:45 AM EDT
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I'm liking this Kryptek.
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Posted: 5/31/2013 10:28:59 AM EDT
[#48]
Originally Posted By Blacktide:
Originally Posted By MP0117:
Originally Posted By Blacktide:
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w72/enderwood/kryptek_zps17b14317.jpg Meh. I imagine MC would be more effective, but it looks cool. Yeah multicam is still superior as a practical camo for most places. Kryptek is slightly better in some environments. Classic woodlands camo was better after a 2-3 washings once you got the deep back and greens slightly faded. I can't help but wonder if Kryptek will be the same and have a longer service life than MC with more washings before fade-out. 
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Posted: 5/31/2013 10:34:46 AM EDT
[#49]
ost
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OR, USA
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Posted: 6/1/2013 3:49:00 PM EDT
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I bought all multicam gear and was convinced it worked great in all environments, but a friend took a picture of me working on somthing in multicam (in the pacific nw forest). There was a woodland jacket in the same picture. I was shocked how well i stood out in multicam and how well the woodland jacket worked.
I think the multicam still works very well in arid enviroments, but i am thinking of getting more woodland or marpat gear for the forest. |
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