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Well when you decide to put it up an advanced warning to keep an eye pointed to the mil-spec gear section would be appreciated.
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Got a little bit of woodland gear left. Sometime I would like to build myself a Smersh type rig in woodland. <a href="http://s87.photobucket.com/user/CDALY05/media/IMG_0504_zps886e357f.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k140/CDALY05/IMG_0504_zps886e357f.jpg</a> <a href="http://s87.photobucket.com/user/CDALY05/media/IMG_0394_zpse5d4242e.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k140/CDALY05/IMG_0394_zpse5d4242e.jpg</a> <a href="http://s87.photobucket.com/user/CDALY05/media/IMG_0393_zpsc5bcc629.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k140/CDALY05/IMG_0393_zpsc5bcc629.jpg</a> View Quote What pack is that...where can I get one...?... |
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Most of what I run is Woodland. I still think it is all around the best camo for most greened up environments. The black tones especially help you fade into shadows which is important. View Quote It's that black tone that makes Woodland stick out in most environments short of deep, dark forest. As much as I enjoy the nostalgia of Woodland, it is not that good of a camo pattern. Remove the black and it would work quite well. Take a look at any natural setting and tell me how much black you actually see. Even shadows are rarely that dark and defined. |
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It's that black tone that makes Woodland stick out in most environments short of deep, dark forest. As much as I enjoy the nostalgia of Woodland, it is not that good of a camo pattern. Remove the black and it would work quite well. Take a look at any natural setting and tell me how much black you actually see. Even shadows are rarely that dark and defined. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Most of what I run is Woodland. I still think it is all around the best camo for most greened up environments. The black tones especially help you fade into shadows which is important. It's that black tone that makes Woodland stick out in most environments short of deep, dark forest. As much as I enjoy the nostalgia of Woodland, it is not that good of a camo pattern. Remove the black and it would work quite well. Take a look at any natural setting and tell me how much black you actually see. Even shadows are rarely that dark and defined. IME woodland works pretty well here in the southeast. In a lot of places during spring/summer it's much better than multicam |
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It's that black tone that makes Woodland stick out in most environments short of deep, dark forest. As much as I enjoy the nostalgia of Woodland, it is not that good of a camo pattern. Remove the black and it would work quite well. Take a look at any natural setting and tell me how much black you actually see. Even shadows are rarely that dark and defined. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Most of what I run is Woodland. I still think it is all around the best camo for most greened up environments. The black tones especially help you fade into shadows which is important. It's that black tone that makes Woodland stick out in most environments short of deep, dark forest. As much as I enjoy the nostalgia of Woodland, it is not that good of a camo pattern. Remove the black and it would work quite well. Take a look at any natural setting and tell me how much black you actually see. Even shadows are rarely that dark and defined. Depending on one's AO, a bit of paint, applied with an inexpensive airbrush, can mitigate the black. If you are practiced, one can apply paint onto fabric using a conventional spray can, although this is not for novices. Hobby shops (model shops) sell expensive multi-use airbrushes, but some have access to simple, inexpensive airbrush-equivalents that will do. In a pinch, take a natural sponge, with various sized holes, lightly daub it in suitable paint, and daub the black areas of the woodland camo with a suitable colored paint. It might wear off after a while, and certainly should not be run through a washer or dryer, but you will know how to re-apply when such is called-for. Craft stores sell daubing applicators, IIRC, for applying dye and paint to fabric. One could also apply dark(er) fabric dye to the tan areas, if needed. Woodland camo is pretty good for a lot of AOs, but it can be improved, if the user's AO requires it. The advantage of Woodland that it is in every surplus store and internet vendor, and is still pretty cheap, although that will change as it runs out. |
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What kind of pouches are those that you have the nalgeen bottles in? I have heard good things about those condor suspenders, why are you replacing them? have they been holding up to any hard use?
Quoted: Piss poor picture but you can get the idea. Mostly surplus items; USGI Molle warbelt that I setup in a more traditional LBE style, works great in the hills of East TN/West NC. IFAK is S.O. Tech, suspenders are Condor and are surprisingly more comfortable and robust than expected - I'll be replacing them with a padded harness from Beez Combat Systems soon. Emdom USA is now offering Woodland as a custom color option, no idea what the extra cost is like, I intend to eventually take advantage of that as well. I'll try to get some better pics later this week. http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p202/SwiftFox14/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-02/76029B52-F2FB-4E78-B7C9-2E569BBB3258_zpswn9omnvy.jpg View Quote |
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Sweet helmet, what's the story on the cover? I wouldn't mind getting a hold of something like that.
Badfish - The pouches are just USGI MOLLE II Canteen Pouches, nothing special, but they do fit the Nalgenes pretty well. As for the suspenders, they've been holding up pretty good. As I said before, they are more comfortable and robust than I originally anticipated. I just want something that's actually in the woodland pattern; might try a Safariland SPEAR rig instead of spending the money on new suspenders from Beez. We'll see, I'm too indecisive sometimes. |
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I kept a set of BDUs and ABDUs, a field jacket, and a few Alice compatible items like 2quart canteens and a CLS bag. I might still have a JSLIST in woodland in the wrap, haven't gone through that bin for about 10 years...
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Woodland is still plentiful. It just takes a little perseverance in searching. I frequent yard sales, Craigslist, thrift stores, flea markets, ebay, the EE here, other message boards, and USRO for my stuff.
I'll try to get pics up of the woodland pile in my man cave, but recently I've picked up a number of Safariland SPEAR pieces, a LBT 10 pocket mountain ruck, a large Molle 2/10th mountain ruck, a TT 2 piece MAV, a Camelbak MULE, and various other pouches and BDUs. I roll my eyes at the "woodland is not effective cuz it has black in it" argument. I'm not a camo snob. I have OD, Marpat, Coyote, DPM and multicam stuff and like it too. I personally like to mix it up; camo pants with an OD shirt, etc. Any earth tone or woodsy pattern is gonna be ok for me here in the SE USA. I've played wargames and gone out and played with camera angles and different camo in the bushes. It all works just fine. It all gets wet and dirty and blends together in short order. Better to learn how to hide and move through the woods then rely on a magic camo pattern to disappear. Just my .02 Speaking of woodland gear, if anyone has a TT X harness, I need one to go with my new 2 piece MAV. =) |
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Sweet helmet, what's the story on the cover? I wouldn't mind getting a hold of something like that. Badfish - The pouches are just USGI MOLLE II Canteen Pouches, nothing special, but they do fit the Nalgenes pretty well. As for the suspenders, they've been holding up pretty good. As I said before, they are more comfortable and robust than I originally anticipated. I just want something that's actually in the woodland pattern; might try a Safariland SPEAR rig instead of spending the money on new suspenders from Beez. We'll see, I'm too indecisive sometimes. View Quote I was looking for a helmet for a high cut (TC2001) ACH. The only cover, in existence it seems, is a airsoft woodland one sold by Evike.com http://www.evike.com/products/33759/ Seems they also have a mesh/multicam one but its out of stock. |
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Yeah stick with ALICE for a pack. I never issued a MOLLE pack that wasn't held together with zipties and duct tape.
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This just in, so I'm sure you've all heard the Army just chose the Scorpion pattern to replace UCP. Well, they've also just announced that they will be testing bookend patterns in the fall and woodland is back in the running to be readopted for use. It is still being issued at the Army jungle warfare school in Hawaii and apparently doing very well there. This coupled with MARSOCs continued use of the pattern makes me think that Woodland just may get it's second renaissance.
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LBT PC this time <a href="http://s176.photobucket.com/user/DefConNC/media/forum%20pictures/19151535-7E1C-4359-89AD-42DF29009636_zpsw1ndyd7z.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/DefConNC/forum%20pictures/19151535-7E1C-4359-89AD-42DF29009636_zpsw1ndyd7z.jpg</a> View Quote I never go on Ebay and a buddy of mine sent me a link to those PC's but I wasnt able to get one before the seller sold out. |
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Woodland is still plentiful. It just takes a little perseverance in searching. I frequent yard sales, Craigslist, thrift stores, flea markets, ebay, the EE here, other message boards, and USRO for my stuff. I'll try to get pics up of the woodland pile in my man cave, but recently I've picked up a number of Safariland SPEAR pieces, a LBT 10 pocket mountain ruck, a large Molle 2/10th mountain ruck, a TT 2 piece MAV, a Camelbak MULE, and various other pouches and BDUs. I roll my eyes at the "woodland is not effective cuz it has black in it" argument. I'm not a camo snob. I have OD, Marpat, Coyote, DPM and multicam stuff and like it too. I personally like to mix it up; camo pants with an OD shirt, etc. Any earth tone or woodsy pattern is gonna be ok for me here in the SE USA. I've played wargames and gone out and played with camera angles and different camo in the bushes. It all works just fine. It all gets wet and dirty and blends together in short order. Better to learn how to hide and move through the woods then rely on a magic camo pattern to disappear. Just my .02 Speaking of woodland gear, if anyone has a TT X harness, I need one to go with my new 2 piece MAV. =) View Quote Often that is only an issue under NV, at which point it can be VERY apparent. |
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Not gonna lie: I popped a bit of a chub with all that woodland awesomness. |
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hello WC!!! |
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Fair bit of "Old-School Woodland" in that shot ETA: Do I spy some UW Gear products? Some of those mag pouches' flaps look awful familiar |
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bump, let's keep this going, I now there is more WC out there.
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you cannot go through the boonies in the Midwest and not find any
I did find some of my very small size surplus stuff that my kids could grow into. |
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A little OSW and DPM working together..... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Hawkeye1/Helms%20Deep/ea2521be-fcf3-463b-81f3-94558d4ffce8_zps63ef536d.jpg View Quote Very similar rifle set ups. Interesting. |
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Just traded-off a complete woodland MOLLE Medic's set bought stupid cheap during TSSI's legendary Christmas sale fiasco a few years back, plus two Woodland MOLLE I Patrol packs for a very nice Multicam USGI MOLLE II Assault pack., which is vastly better than the MOLLE I Patrol Pack.
The woodland items were bought dirt cheap, as in $50 all told, so why not? If I were to sell the WL items on the EE here, instead of using them as trading wampum, I would have lost out on the Assault pack. I might have made out better money-wise had I sold them here, but the trader was not willing to wait, and I still made out all right. I think I still have a NIB Medic's kit and Ranger RACK kit in their poly bags. I really have to buckle-down and inventory all this WL stuff, and put it on sale here in the EE. Please don't ask for a head's up, because that would be advertising on my part, and is forbidden to me by the CoC. Sorry. Anyways, it will be a little while yet. I have to sort out rigs for my different long firearms (one rig each), and then sell-off the rest. Time-consuming. |
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A little OSW and DPM working together..... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Hawkeye1/Helms%20Deep/ea2521be-fcf3-463b-81f3-94558d4ffce8_zps63ef536d.jpg View Quote Notice how the middle guy, and the right-hand guy have very nice center-of-mass markers by virtue if their different camo gear? OD pack straps would be much better, as would be an OD chest pouch for the middle guy.. |
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Notice how the middle guy, and the right-hand guy have very nice center-of-mass markers by virtue if their different camo gear? OD pack straps would be much better, as would be an OD chest pouch for the middle guy.. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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A little OSW and DPM working together..... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Hawkeye1/Helms%20Deep/ea2521be-fcf3-463b-81f3-94558d4ffce8_zps63ef536d.jpg Notice how the middle guy, and the right-hand guy have very nice center-of-mass markers by virtue if their different camo gear? OD pack straps would be much better, as would be an OD chest pouch for the middle guy.. On viewing a static photo in the open you could possibly make that argument. However, it's been our experience when in the bush that it's not an issue. |
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Let's keep this going with photo's. Raf would like to you see your stash of wc. Like a fool, I traded and sold some of my wc gear. Great set-up Hawkeye and I thank you for your contribution.
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On viewing a static photo in the open you could possibly make that argument. However, it's been our experience when in the bush that it's not an issue. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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A little OSW and DPM working together..... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Hawkeye1/Helms%20Deep/ea2521be-fcf3-463b-81f3-94558d4ffce8_zps63ef536d.jpg Notice how the middle guy, and the right-hand guy have very nice center-of-mass markers by virtue if their different camo gear? OD pack straps would be much better, as would be an OD chest pouch for the middle guy.. On viewing a static photo in the open you could possibly make that argument. However, it's been our experience when in the bush that it's not an issue. |
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A little OSW and DPM working together..... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Hawkeye1/Helms%20Deep/ea2521be-fcf3-463b-81f3-94558d4ffce8_zps63ef536d.jpg View Quote I'd wonder about some of the rigs being available with OD or brown webbing, vice Coyote, personally. Then again, since I live in a perpetually semi-arid zone, a more Coyote-leaning camouflage scheme would probably work better anyway. But it does look, in this one picture, that the lighter Coyote webbing would stick out against the overall darker Woodland and Temperate DPM camo. Even more so for the Multicam plate carrier in the middle. As an aside, I'm guessing you're the Hawkeye of UW Gear? Any word on the belt rig you hinted at earlier this year? |
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Got entire MOLLE Rifleman kit in Woodland. The ruck, assault pack, pouches, FLC, everything. Picked it up still in the box.
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I'd wonder about some of the rigs being available with OD or brown webbing, vice Coyote, personally. Then again, since I live in a perpetually semi-arid zone, a more Coyote-leaning camouflage scheme would probably work better anyway. But it does look, in this one picture, that the lighter Coyote webbing would stick out against the overall darker Woodland and Temperate DPM camo. Even more so for the Multicam plate carrier in the middle. As an aside, I'm guessing you're the Hawkeye of UW Gear? Any word on the belt rig you hinted at earlier this year? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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A little OSW and DPM working together..... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Hawkeye1/Helms%20Deep/ea2521be-fcf3-463b-81f3-94558d4ffce8_zps63ef536d.jpg I'd wonder about some of the rigs being available with OD or brown webbing, vice Coyote, personally. Then again, since I live in a perpetually semi-arid zone, a more Coyote-leaning camouflage scheme would probably work better anyway. But it does look, in this one picture, that the lighter Coyote webbing would stick out against the overall darker Woodland and Temperate DPM camo. Even more so for the Multicam plate carrier in the middle. As an aside, I'm guessing you're the Hawkeye of UW Gear? Any word on the belt rig you hinted at earlier this year? Whitetail deer are a coyote-brownish color, and hide pretty good in the woods.....just sayin. And yeah, like I said, in a static picture, its easy to find contrasts, etc.... Belt rig? Never heard of such a thing. Nope. Utterly deceptive twaddle-speak, says I. |
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2011 pic of my then new Paraclete HPC in WC <a href="http://s176.photobucket.com/user/DefConNC/media/Oct%202011%20Carbine/DSC01488.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/DefConNC/Oct%202011%20Carbine/DSC01488.jpg</a> View Quote i called dibs on this long ago if you ever decide to sell it. |
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Whitetail deer are a coyote-brownish color, and hide pretty good in the woods.....just sayin. And yeah, like I said, in a static picture, its easy to find contrasts, etc.... Belt rig? Never heard of such a thing. Nope. Utterly deceptive twaddle-speak, says I. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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A little OSW and DPM working together..... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Hawkeye1/Helms%20Deep/ea2521be-fcf3-463b-81f3-94558d4ffce8_zps63ef536d.jpg I'd wonder about some of the rigs being available with OD or brown webbing, vice Coyote, personally. Then again, since I live in a perpetually semi-arid zone, a more Coyote-leaning camouflage scheme would probably work better anyway. But it does look, in this one picture, that the lighter Coyote webbing would stick out against the overall darker Woodland and Temperate DPM camo. Even more so for the Multicam plate carrier in the middle. As an aside, I'm guessing you're the Hawkeye of UW Gear? Any word on the belt rig you hinted at earlier this year? Whitetail deer are a coyote-brownish color, and hide pretty good in the woods.....just sayin. And yeah, like I said, in a static picture, its easy to find contrasts, etc.... Belt rig? Never heard of such a thing. Nope. Utterly deceptive twaddle-speak, says I. Yeah, that's why I added the caveat of "in this picture," having seen the color work pretty well in the Sierra Nevada mountains not far from me. I'll just keep an eye and ear open for more of that twaddle-speak |
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Got entire MOLLE Rifleman kit in Woodland. The ruck, assault pack, pouches, FLC, everything. Picked it up still in the box. View Quote Big box, isn't it? I bought two MOLLE I Rifleman's kits from TSSI during their epic Christmas sale some years ago. I got two 3'x2'x2' boxes of stuff for about $200, IIRC. That was the best sale evah. Basically, it looked like the guy setting up the prices didn't include the digits exceeding $9.99. IOW, if something like a MOLLE I rifleman's kit had a price of, say, $207.99,, the TSSI Xmas sale price was truncated down to $7.99. They had $600 state-of-the-art helmets going for less than $10. I missed out on those, although I tried. The 30 or so folks who plundered them (until TSSI realized their pricing mistake) really made out. We all got a mass e-mail a couple of days later from TSSI acknowledging their mistake, but, to their credit, TSSI honored the deal. |
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Got entire MOLLE Rifleman kit in Woodland. The ruck, assault pack, pouches, FLC, everything. Picked it up still in the box. You suck. What sucks is, they were throwing them away, years ago. IIRC, there were like 40-50 of them. |
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