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Well the dual recoil springs and that it's a short stroke gas piston with a shortened bolt carrier. It also accepts AR triggers, grips, and stocks. Controls and feel are like that of an AR, and seems to use a similar gas system as the AR18. I'm speaking about the MCX of course, but I do want the MPX as well because like I said, I've always wanted an MP5. But also with the MCX http://i.gyazo.com/ccd381d1dbd6762fc45bd0bd0b314e75.png View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Besides the dual springs what else gets you excited here? Well the dual recoil springs and that it's a short stroke gas piston with a shortened bolt carrier. It also accepts AR triggers, grips, and stocks. Controls and feel are like that of an AR, and seems to use a similar gas system as the AR18. I'm speaking about the MCX of course, but I do want the MPX as well because like I said, I've always wanted an MP5. But also with the MCX http://i.gyazo.com/ccd381d1dbd6762fc45bd0bd0b314e75.png I'll be honest, I was planning on buying a DD M4V7 when I'm back on my feet and working again. The MPX and MCX are probably going on my list instead. The design is just freaking sexy. |
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I'll be honest, I was planning on buying a DD M4V7 when I'm back on my feet and working again. The MPX and MCX are probably going on my list instead. The design is just freaking sexy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Besides the dual springs what else gets you excited here? Well the dual recoil springs and that it's a short stroke gas piston with a shortened bolt carrier. It also accepts AR triggers, grips, and stocks. Controls and feel are like that of an AR, and seems to use a similar gas system as the AR18. I'm speaking about the MCX of course, but I do want the MPX as well because like I said, I've always wanted an MP5. But also with the MCX http://i.gyazo.com/ccd381d1dbd6762fc45bd0bd0b314e75.png I'll be honest, I was planning on buying a DD M4V7 when I'm back on my feet and working again. The MPX and MCX are probably going on my list instead. The design is just freaking sexy. Yeah, I was planning on getting the 556xi and an MPX, but then I found out about the MCX. I'll probably get pistol versions of each so I can change between rifle and pistol and use the sig arm brace for the pistol version on both. |
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Well the dual recoil springs and that it's a short stroke gas piston with a shortened bolt carrier. It also accepts AR triggers, grips, and stocks. Controls and feel are like that of an AR, and seems to use a similar gas system as the AR18. I'm speaking about the MCX of course, but I do want the MPX as well because like I said, I've always wanted an MP5. But also with the MCX http://i.gyazo.com/ccd381d1dbd6762fc45bd0bd0b314e75.png View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Besides the dual springs what else gets you excited here? Well the dual recoil springs and that it's a short stroke gas piston with a shortened bolt carrier. It also accepts AR triggers, grips, and stocks. Controls and feel are like that of an AR, and seems to use a similar gas system as the AR18. I'm speaking about the MCX of course, but I do want the MPX as well because like I said, I've always wanted an MP5. But also with the MCX http://i.gyazo.com/ccd381d1dbd6762fc45bd0bd0b314e75.png Ok forgive me but I'm coming into this way late. I've been considering a number of sig firearms and purchased the X5 tactical. The rifle was going to be the new XI but then I saw the pic of the rifle above! What is that rifle? I just don't recognize it. |
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Ok forgive me but I'm coming into this way late. I've been considering a number of sig firearms and purchased the X5 tactical. The rifle was going to be the new XI but then I saw the pic of the rifle above! What is that rifle? I just don't recognize it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Besides the dual springs what else gets you excited here? Well the dual recoil springs and that it's a short stroke gas piston with a shortened bolt carrier. It also accepts AR triggers, grips, and stocks. Controls and feel are like that of an AR, and seems to use a similar gas system as the AR18. I'm speaking about the MCX of course, but I do want the MPX as well because like I said, I've always wanted an MP5. But also with the MCX http://i.gyazo.com/ccd381d1dbd6762fc45bd0bd0b314e75.png Ok forgive me but I'm coming into this way late. I've been considering a number of sig firearms and purchased the X5 tactical. The rifle was going to be the new XI but then I saw the pic of the rifle above! What is that rifle? I just don't recognize it. The one pictured? It is the MCX 5.56 SBR |
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For the gamers, the MPX is coming in the next expansion pack for BF4
Link http://bf4central.com/2014/05/battlefield-4-dragons-teeth-weapons-revealed/ |
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Already asked and answered regarding the mpx, but does anyone know if the mcx takes a standard ar charging handle?
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Can we please keep this thread related to the MPX? Maybe start another thread for the MCX. Thank you.
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I emailed Sig Law Enforcement rep and he told me he did not have a firm date when the MPX will hit dealers. He said hopefully by the end of the year which was very vague UGH!
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I emailed Sig Law Enforcement rep and he told me he did not have a firm date when the MPX will hit dealers. He said hopefully by the end of the year which was very vague UGH! View Quote I don't know why people keep calling reps and dealers when sig doesn't even know when these are shipping. Without fail they will come the day after someone was quoted 3 months. Be patient people. |
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I did hear from a reliable source that Sig is releasing 500 MPX pistols to dealers that have been on the wait list. Let's hope they are finally coming.
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I don't know why people keep calling reps and dealers when sig doesn't even know when these are shipping. . View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I emailed Sig Law Enforcement rep and he told me he did not have a firm date when the MPX will hit dealers. He said hopefully by the end of the year which was very vague UGH! I don't know why people keep calling reps and dealers when sig doesn't even know when these are shipping. . Because we can? This a SIG thread about the MPX. I was just relaying what I was told and thought some may be interested. Your obviously not so why even respond to my comment? |
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Because we can? This a SIG thread about the MPX. I was just relaying what I was told and thought some may be interested. Your obviously not so why even respond to my comment? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I emailed Sig Law Enforcement rep and he told me he did not have a firm date when the MPX will hit dealers. He said hopefully by the end of the year which was very vague UGH! I don't know why people keep calling reps and dealers when sig doesn't even know when these are shipping. . Because we can? This a SIG thread about the MPX. I was just relaying what I was told and thought some may be interested. Your obviously not so why even respond to my comment? I am extremely interested in these guns. I just find it funny that if you read all of these threads from the beginning they are all full of people with sources who list at least half a dozen release dates and every time one passed a new source is found. Eventually someone will be right I suppose Lather, rinse, repeat. |
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I did hear from a reliable source that Sig is releasing 500 MPX pistols to dealers that have been on the wait list. Let's hope they are finally coming. Any insight as to which dealers those might be? No clue on which dealers. |
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I am extremely interested in these guns. I just find it funny that if you read all of these threads from the beginning they are all full of people with sources who list at least half a dozen release dates and every time one passed a new source is found. Eventually someone will be right I suppose Lather, rinse, repeat. View Quote I kind of figured the rep I spoke with was referring to shipping the guns out to distributors first within the week or so after the show, which of course takes time to work into their systems(assuming they did ship on time). I forget what the initial number shipped would be but I want to say they anticipated moving around 1500-2000 per month after the shipments started. Factory SBRs would come a couple months after the pistols started shipping. |
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Why just 45ACP? Get the right 9mm ammo in either +P or +P+ will be just as effective as 45ACP. There is a reason most sub machine guns are in 9mm and not 45ACP. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Come get me when they have it in .45acp Why just 45ACP? Get the right 9mm ammo in either +P or +P+ will be just as effective as 45ACP. There is a reason most sub machine guns are in 9mm and not 45ACP. Well, the "reason" is the 9mm is internationally used, whereas the .45 (while, yes used internationally) is really an American affair. The market for 9mm subguns is just substantially greater than it ever will be for .45. In fact, internationally I'd be a.380 would sell better than the .45. |
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Well, the "reason" is the 9mm is internationally used, whereas the .45 (while, yes used internationally) is really an American affair. The market for 9mm subguns is just substantially greater than it ever will be for .45. In fact, internationally I'd be a.380 would sell better than the .45. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Come get me when they have it in .45acp Why just 45ACP? Get the right 9mm ammo in either +P or +P+ will be just as effective as 45ACP. There is a reason most sub machine guns are in 9mm and not 45ACP. Well, the "reason" is the 9mm is internationally used, whereas the .45 (while, yes used internationally) is really an American affair. The market for 9mm subguns is just substantially greater than it ever will be for .45. In fact, internationally I'd be a.380 would sell better than the .45. I don't understand why Kriss still hasn't come out with a 9mm Vector that took 33rd Glock mags. That thing would sell way better than the .45 version. |
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I don't understand why Kriss still hasn't come out with a 9mm Vector that took 33rd Glock mags. That thing would sell way better than the .45 version. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Come get me when they have it in .45acp Why just 45ACP? Get the right 9mm ammo in either +P or +P+ will be just as effective as 45ACP. There is a reason most sub machine guns are in 9mm and not 45ACP. Well, the "reason" is the 9mm is internationally used, whereas the .45 (while, yes used internationally) is really an American affair. The market for 9mm subguns is just substantially greater than it ever will be for .45. In fact, internationally I'd be a.380 would sell better than the .45. I don't understand why Kriss still hasn't come out with a 9mm Vector that took 33rd Glock mags. That thing would sell way better than the .45 version. I agree. But I can't believe they've actually sold enough to stay in business in the first place. |
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Come get me when they have it in .45acp Why just 45ACP? Get the right 9mm ammo in either +P or +P+ will be just as effective as 45ACP. There is a reason most sub machine guns are in 9mm and not 45ACP. Well, the "reason" is the 9mm is internationally used, whereas the .45 (while, yes used internationally) is really an American affair. The market for 9mm subguns is just substantially greater than it ever will be for .45. In fact, internationally I'd be a.380 would sell better than the .45. I don't understand why Kriss still hasn't come out with a 9mm Vector that took 33rd Glock mags. That thing would sell way better than the .45 version. I agree. But I can't believe they've actually sold enough to stay in business in the first place. They got bought by Sphinx or some foreign company a few years back. |
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Well, the "reason" is the 9mm is internationally used, whereas the .45 (while, yes used internationally) is really an American affair. The market for 9mm subguns is just substantially greater than it ever will be for .45. In fact, internationally I'd be a.380 would sell better than the .45. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Come get me when they have it in .45acp Why just 45ACP? Get the right 9mm ammo in either +P or +P+ will be just as effective as 45ACP. There is a reason most sub machine guns are in 9mm and not 45ACP. Well, the "reason" is the 9mm is internationally used, whereas the .45 (while, yes used internationally) is really an American affair. The market for 9mm subguns is just substantially greater than it ever will be for .45. In fact, internationally I'd be a.380 would sell better than the .45. That's exactly why 9mm is a better option. 9mm does the job and it's more readily available around the the globe when the SHTF. |
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Does anyone gave any real idea what forend these beasts are coming with? Are the forends easy enough to change that there will be an aftermarket for forends like we see with ARs?
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From what I was told, the aluminum and carbon fiber hand guards are the only options presently. At the 2013 Shot Show they had a hand guard with a built in laser and rotating flashlight, but I was told that was just a prototype and unknown if that will be released or not.
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It was bound to happen. Keymod has assimilated the MPX http://i834.photobucket.com/albums/zz267/edmateo50/1401059896_zpsda482c62.jpg Pretty nice article by defrev. View Quote Works for me |
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Just my opinion, but those rails are ugly and I sure hope that they are just an option. The other style looks much better to me.
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Just my opinion, but those rails are ugly and I sure hope that they are just an option. The other style looks much better to me. View Quote Knowing the guys who designed it, they don't particularly care what you think of how it looks. They are trying to design the most useable handguard they can. I also doubt they'll be using the "old style". Its a Sig proprietary rail-less design that was originally designed before Keymod became a real thing. The guy who designed it no longer works for them either from what I understand. They Keymod design is better than the Sig design hands-down. As for M-LOK, no idea. |
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http://2323862zru3v2q2fq331fqh87fk.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/SIG_SAUER_SIG_MPX_Machine_Pistol_Submachine_Gun_SBR_Carbine_Multi-Caliber_PDW_Personal_Defense_Weapon_NDIA_SOFIC_2014_David_Crane_DefenseReview.com_DR_24.jpg Glad to see the keymod handguard on the other pistol. I hope they sell the MPX-K pistols(since that's the barrel length I want) http://2323862zru3v2q2fq331fqh87fk.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/SIG_SAUER_SIG_MPX_Machine_Pistol_Submachine_Gun_SBR_Carbine_Multi-Caliber_PDW_Personal_Defense_Weapon_NDIA_SOFIC_2014_David_Crane_DefenseReview.com_DR_29.jpg Looks like they might be going to a takedown style can design which is a welcome change. View Quote Lancer mags? That's the same dot pattern texture on the AMW5 mags. |
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http://2323862zru3v2q2fq331fqh87fk.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/SIG_SAUER_SIG_MPX_Machine_Pistol_Submachine_Gun_SBR_Carbine_Multi-Caliber_PDW_Personal_Defense_Weapon_NDIA_SOFIC_2014_David_Crane_DefenseReview.com_DR_24.jpg Glad to see the keymod handguard on the other pistol. I hope they sell the MPX-K pistols(since that's the barrel length I want) http://2323862zru3v2q2fq331fqh87fk.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/SIG_SAUER_SIG_MPX_Machine_Pistol_Submachine_Gun_SBR_Carbine_Multi-Caliber_PDW_Personal_Defense_Weapon_NDIA_SOFIC_2014_David_Crane_DefenseReview.com_DR_29.jpg Looks like they might be going to a takedown style can design which is a welcome change. Lancer mags? That's the same dot pattern texture on the AMW5 mags. Yup, Lancer is the OEM for the MPX mags. Going to have the steel lips, etc. Supposedly $50-60 street price on mags last I heard though. |
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Love how it's already becoming a favorite with the aftermarket companies (ala KM hand guards) but Sig still hasn't given a date on when they actually plan on releasing it....Magpul Masada 2.0
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Knowing the guys who designed it, they don't particularly care what you think of how it looks. They are trying to design the most useable handguard they can. I also doubt they'll be using the "old style". Its a Sig proprietary rail-less design that was originally designed before Keymod became a real thing. The guy who designed it no longer works for them either from what I understand. They Keymod design is better than the Sig design hands-down. As for M-LOK, no idea. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Just my opinion, but those rails are ugly and I sure hope that they are just an option. The other style looks much better to me. Knowing the guys who designed it, they don't particularly care what you think of how it looks. They are trying to design the most useable handguard they can. I also doubt they'll be using the "old style". Its a Sig proprietary rail-less design that was originally designed before Keymod became a real thing. The guy who designed it no longer works for them either from what I understand. They Keymod design is better than the Sig design hands-down. As for M-LOK, no idea. Well I am glad they don't care what I think, as I said it was just my opinion and good for you that you know the guy personally. The article says that the keymod is an option and I just prefer the original design better, but I am willing to try out the keymod, just don't have any experience with that type of handguard. |
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Love how it's already becoming a favorite with the aftermarket companies (ala KM hand guards) but Sig still hasn't given a date on when they actually plan on releasing it....Magpul Masada 2.0 View Quote How is this anything like the Masada? Because it's not out fast enough for you? There is no farming out the manufacture or any such silliness. It cracks me up that we basically hound manufacturers to release info before they're ready and then chastise them for not having it out fast enough. There is a reason magpul handles press releases they way they do. Don't have to deal with this bullshit. |
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^^^^totally agree, at least Sig is making sure it's right before the release. You see what Remington did on the R51, total POS.
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Haven't they been showcasing this for well over a year now? I mean it's been at at least two SHOT SHOWs. Yes I know, they ran into trouble with the ATF. And yes keymod is aftermarket in the grand scheme of things. 1913 is the industrial standard until the military decides it wants keymod. So if you don't want to call the keymod on the MPX "aftermarket" perhaps a better term is revision 58. Sure kudos to Sig for sticking it to the man (ATF) and great, they're refining and modernizing the weapon. W/ that said I really think they should go ahead and probably start releasing soon. We didn't hear near this much about the 556xi rifles and those are out.
Sig owes me and others nothing, but I just keep seeing them make changes like an artist that is striving for that perfect masterpiece. It will never be perfect, nor should it expect to be.
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Honestly, I was looking at the POF MP5 clones but if the MPX gets good reviews I'll probably just go that way. Especially if they put out the model with the "muzzle break" now that the BATFE got their winkie slapped in court.
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Honestly, I was looking at the POF MP5 clones but if the MPX gets good reviews I'll probably just go that way. Especially if they put out the model with the "muzzle break" now that the BATFE got their winkie slapped in court. The version with the brace is appealing as well. I just don't like the side folder bit. I can live with it though. After shooting a real MP5SD (pre86) I'm kind of hooked on pistol caliber carbines with wire stocks. View Quote Where are you getting this info from? So you are saying that the lawsuit case Sig vs BATFE has already been heard in court? Seems kind of fast as it was just filed in April which was not to long ago. Cases in Federal Court could take years to be heard. |
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Where are you getting this info from? So you are saying that the lawsuit case Sig vs BATFE has already been heard in court? Seems kind of fast as it was just filed in April which was not to long ago. Cases in Federal Court could take years to be heard. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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MP5 or MPX, MP5 or MPX??????????
It's a very hard decision for me. Might just go ahead with the MP5 since we don't have a clue when these are going to hit the market. I sure would like a integral suppressed MPX. The one stamp non-sbr version would be nice(if it ever makes it to production). |
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View Quote I did see that one awhile back but it's not related to Sig Sauers lawsuit and I did not see "Sig Sauer" listed anywhere in that article. When this finally does go to court, hopefully it's the same Federal Court Judge that hears the case. It could still take some time before this happens. |
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Oops! Sorry, that's not the right article. I'll try to find the right one...
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