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Posted: 8/28/2014 10:58:29 PM EDT
I acquired this beaut today. I won't tell you what I paid for it until you tell me what it's worth. I know it's 1954ish. Serial number is 7 digits. I can't find a mark, ding, scratch on this thing.
I'm going to be for the night. I will have to read the responses in the AM. Sorry for abandoning you 
UPDATE 
YESSSSS. Now I need to head to the CMP forums and ask EXACTLY what I have..... |
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Posted: 8/28/2014 11:01:37 PM EDT
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It that rifle was In Canada, I would pay $2500 for it. It's beautiful. You did very, very well. |
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Posted: 8/28/2014 11:05:01 PM EDT
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If it is worth half if what you offered, I came out way on top.
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Posted: 8/28/2014 11:09:46 PM EDT
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Looks like a beauty!
Good "shooter" garands with mis-matched parts are $600-$700. If that thing is all matching and as good as it looks in the picture probably worth $1000+. Being post war hurts it a little, since the earlier rifles seem to be what is all the craze these days, but say you have you a nice piece there for sure! |
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Posted: 8/28/2014 11:20:24 PM EDT
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Nice arsenal rebuild mixmaster. 5.4 mil SA is a common serial block.
Worth about $900, better looking rifle than what is coming out of the CMP SG's these days.... |
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Posted: 8/28/2014 11:59:36 PM EDT
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She's a beauty.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 6:51:12 AM EDT
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Is it a CMP rifle? If so - is it a Springfield barrel? It looks like it would have been a Service Grade Special (stock looks new) or a Special. SGS we're $950 and Specials are $1000. Does it look like it was re parked?
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Posted: 8/29/2014 7:18:05 AM EDT
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Is it a CMP rifle? If so - is it a Springfield barrel? It looks like it would have been a Service Grade Special (stock looks new) or a Special. SGS we're $950 and Specials are $1000. Does it look like it was re parked? I don't have the rifle in front of me. How would I tell that's its CMP/Springfield barrel? I can't find any evidence that it has been reparked. But then again, I find it hard to believe that this rifle is 99%+ condition. |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 7:22:25 AM EDT
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Well I was just wondering if who ever you got it from said it was a CMP rifle or not. No real way to "tell" without calling them and paying to run the serial.
Pull back the op rod and look at the now exposed barrel and post what it is marked. For reference, I have a CMP Special which came with a Criterion barrel. It is marked CBI 6535448 1-10 01/14 4P My rifles finish and stock look very similar to yours. |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 9:38:35 AM EDT
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Well I was just wondering if who ever you got it from said it was a CMP rifle or not. No real way to "tell" without calling them and paying to run the serial. Pull back the op rod and look at the now exposed barrel and post what it is marked. For reference, I have a CMP Special which came with a Criterion barrel. It is marked CBI 6535448 1-10 01/14 4P My rifles finish and stock look very similar to yours. I will look at the barrel later. How many different locations will the serial number be? The person that I got it from does not know if it was a CMP rifle or not. |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 9:59:27 AM EDT
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The serial number will only be in one place. The bolt, trigger, trigger housing, op rod, barrel, etc will all have part numbers that will show if it is a "correct" rifle or not. But to be honest, I wouldn't worry about it. Buy some Greek HXP from the CMP and get shooting.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 10:01:01 AM EDT
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She's a beauty but there is not enough info, are there cartouches on the stock? Have you verified part numbers? As others have mentioned. the barrel info will tell us a lot.
It looks like a CMP Special which would put it at the $995 price |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 10:12:18 AM EDT
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Op, if you want a better estimate on price we'll need many more pics. It does LOOK like a SG Special or CMP Special as others have said. Please take detailed pics of the following (at a minimum) with special attention on the drawing numbers:
Op-rod Trigger housing and components Barrel Gas lock |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 11:10:35 AM EDT
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Op, if you want a better estimate on price we'll need many more pics. It does LOOK like a SG Special or CMP Special as others have said. Please take detailed pics of the following (at a minimum) with special attention on the drawing numbers: Op-rod Trigger housing and components Barrel Gas lock I will take more detailed pictured when I have a chance. Maybe tonight. Thank you everyone for you input. I've never owned a garand, so I'm a bit new with them. |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 6:18:20 PM EDT
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If its a mixmaster with a barrel with low muzzle/throat wear with no rare parts its approx $800 $850 rifle on the Street
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Posted: 8/29/2014 9:00:13 PM EDT
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Pics inbound
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Posted: 8/29/2014 9:03:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/29/2014 9:05:20 PM EDT
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So you just been stringing us along all along? I suppose the stock is bedded? How about pics of the rear sight
Hard to tell for sure but looks like a repark. |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 9:13:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/29/2014 9:15:54 PM EDT
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So much want...
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Posted: 8/29/2014 9:16:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/29/2014 9:16:44 PM EDT
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Okay, if you can, tell me what I have
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Posted: 8/29/2014 9:17:47 PM EDT
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So you just been stringing us along all along? I suppose the stock is bedded? How about pics of the rear sight Hard to tell for sure but looks like a repark. Bedded? Help me just a bit with that. Anything else I need to take a picture of? |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 9:22:58 PM EDT
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Possible Original NM Garand . I am not a expert on Type I and Type II NM rifles so I wont comment further.
It appears there may be glass bedding material under reciver heel |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 9:25:09 PM EDT
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Possible Original NM Garand . I am not a expert on Type I and Type II NM rifles so I wont comment further. It appears there may be glass bedding material under reciver heel NM= National Match? If so, does that improve the standing? (obviously, yes. but Im not any kind of subject matter expert) |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 9:40:15 PM EDT
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If NM, yes the value is increased significantly. Check under the trigger housing or receiver heel. What did you pay?
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Posted: 8/29/2014 9:47:27 PM EDT
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If NM, yes the value is increased significantly. Check under the trigger housing or receiver heel. What did you pay? $1000... I wanted it. How do I get to the trigger housing/reciever heel? Is it something that I want to delve into? |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 9:52:42 PM EDT
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Sorry to sound like a damn helpless noob. I am just not educated on such manliness.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 10:26:39 PM EDT
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It is from the CMP, the cartouche with the eagle. It May be a National Match, it has a number of NM parts at the very least. The barrel is a Springfield from 1955, not an aftermarket.
1954 – 1955 sn#5,278,246 to 5,488,246 1955 – 1957 sn#5,793,848 to 6,099,905 You got a very good deal . |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 10:32:26 PM EDT
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It is from the CMP, the cartouche with the eagle. It May be a National Match, it has a number of NM parts at the very least. The barrel is a Springfield from 1955, not an aftermarket. 1954 – 1955 sn#5,278,246 to 5,488,246 1955 – 1957 sn#5,793,848 to 6,099,905 You got a very good deal . Okay, so tell me what its worth, if you think its a repark..... I want to know everything about it lol ETA: Pretty sure there were a coupe of NM marks that I didnt take a picture of because I had plenty of pictures to show that. |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 10:38:36 PM EDT
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It is from the CMP, the cartouche with the eagle. It May be a National Match, it has a number of NM parts at the very least. The barrel is a Springfield from 1955, not an aftermarket. 1954 – 1955 sn#5,278,246 to 5,488,246 1955 – 1957 sn#5,793,848 to 6,099,905 You got a very good deal . That is a DAS stamp and doesn't mean anything in regards to the CMP. Unlatch the trigger by puling down on the rear of the trigger guard. If it is a NM rifle, you did VERY well. Click on this LINK for more information. |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 10:53:21 PM EDT
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That is a DAS stamp and doesn't mean anything in regards to the CMP. Unlatch the trigger by puling down on the rear of the trigger guard. If it is a NM rifle, you did VERY well. Click on this LINK for more information. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It is from the CMP, the cartouche with the eagle. It May be a National Match, it has a number of NM parts at the very least. The barrel is a Springfield from 1955, not an aftermarket. 1954 – 1955 sn#5,278,246 to 5,488,246 1955 – 1957 sn#5,793,848 to 6,099,905 You got a very good deal . That is a DAS stamp and doesn't mean anything in regards to the CMP. Unlatch the trigger by puling down on the rear of the trigger guard. If it is a NM rifle, you did VERY well. Click on this LINK for more information. You are right, I was having a senior moment. It is a Defense Acceptance Stamp. CMP Stamp is different. |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 10:56:37 PM EDT
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Alright, that was a bitch. Pics inbound of the trigger group/housing.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 10:59:56 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/29/2014 11:00:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/29/2014 11:01:07 PM EDT
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you scored....well done
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Posted: 8/29/2014 11:07:19 PM EDT
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Value? I would think that at least $2,000 would be reasonable. http://www.m1garand.com/m1-garand/m1-garand-rifle-sale/ "Match Grade. Genuine U.S.G.I. Receiver. Similar to our “Select Grade” but fitted with national match front sight and complete National Match rear sights capable of 1/2 minute windage and elevation adjustments. All hand selected parts for optimal fit. Trigger pulls adjusted to NM specs and all creep and excess travel removed for crisp trigger pull. Front hand-guard is unitized to lower band and the gas cylinder is modified to all NM specs. A highly accurate rifle for the serious competitor or shooter. Fully tested and targeted for reliability, safety, accuracy, and function. For shooters and M1 enthusiasts who require a high quality M1 rifle modified and tuned for superior accuracy. $2099.95 In Stock!" |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 11:11:47 PM EDT
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Value? I would think that at least $2,000 would be reasonable. http://www.m1garand.com/m1-garand/m1-garand-rifle-sale/ "Match Grade. Genuine U.S.G.I. Receiver. Similar to our “Select Grade” but fitted with national match front sight and complete National Match rear sights capable of 1/2 minute windage and elevation adjustments. All hand selected parts for optimal fit. Trigger pulls adjusted to NM specs and all creep and excess travel removed for crisp trigger pull. Front hand-guard is unitized to lower band and the gas cylinder is modified to all NM specs. A highly accurate rifle for the serious competitor or shooter. Fully tested and targeted for reliability, safety, accuracy, and function. For shooters and M1 enthusiasts who require a high quality M1 rifle modified and tuned for superior accuracy. $2099.95 In Stock!" Sp pretty much best case scenario, right? Wow well you can't beat that!!   
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Posted: 8/29/2014 11:14:29 PM EDT
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Now you need to try to get an SRS check and also see if it was sold through the CMP at some point. This will cost a little, but is worth it.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 11:18:21 PM EDT
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Now you need to try to get an SRS check and also see if it was sold through the CMP at some point. This will cost a little, but is worth it. Would that increase the value if verified? |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 11:30:50 PM EDT
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It's like having a full blood dog w/o papers. I am not a NM expert, but do love me some Garands. Maybe a little too much! You did good, papers or no papers. It may have come from DCM or later through the CMP. I may not have come through either, who knows. If it were mine, I would be more than willing to spend a little just to see.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 11:52:23 PM EDT
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Don't the "P" stamps signify the proof testing of the barrel, for each rebuild? That would make it a many modified type 2 I think. I see so little wear and so many stamps I imagine either a rifle never used much and rebuilt a lot. Maybe that barrel just wouldn't shoot.
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Posted: 8/30/2014 4:42:01 AM EDT
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Value is depending if it is a civialian built NM or a Arsenal built NM. Again, I am not a expert on them so am not going to comment other than it looks to have been reparked
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Posted: 8/30/2014 11:08:38 AM EDT
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Thats awesome guys. So what about the trigger housing/group gave it away?
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Posted: 8/30/2014 11:43:27 AM EDT
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Thats awesome guys. So what about the trigger housing/group gave it away? Nothing, the parts marked NM gave it away. Pull the trigger group is the glass bedding under it? Type I USGI rifles are not bedded and have non hooded apertures , Type II are bedded and I "think" all had hooded apertures. Run your aperture up, it should be stamped either NM .595 or NM .520 on the front "Probably" arsenal built but need someone who is a expert on USGI NM rifles to know for sure. I would post pics of the rifle on the CMP forum, there are guys there who are knowledgeable on NM rifles. |
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Posted: 8/30/2014 11:44:30 AM EDT
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Thats awesome guys. So what about the trigger housing/group gave it away? Nothing, I wanted to see if there was bedding under the trigger group. It should also have bedding under the receiver heel. You really need to start trying to see if there is any paper trail for this SN. |
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Posted: 8/30/2014 12:43:59 PM EDT
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Took it to a LDS today who is VERY knowledgeable on the M1 family and he stated "This has NEVER been shot" and "$1500 cash right now for it"
I said not just no, but HELL NO! I might have to get just a little more for it than that. THANK YOU EXPERTS! Im going to get a paper trail done and see what I can find out. |
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Posted: 8/30/2014 1:02:35 PM EDT
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I would be completely stunned if "it's never been shot". Go over to the CMP forums and set up an account. Then post pics like you have here and wait for the knowledge to roll in. There are some there that may be able to run an SRS check for you. See you over there!
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Posted: 8/30/2014 1:34:40 PM EDT
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Took it to a LDS today who is VERY knowledgeable on the M1 family and he stated "This has NEVER been shot" and "$1500 cash right now for it" I said not just no, but HELL NO! I might have to get just a little more for it than that. THANK YOU EXPERTS! Im going to get a paper trail done and see what I can find out. Very doudbtful, post a clear ,close up pic of the end of the bolt face. Where the brass and primer sets against the bolt If its a truely original NM Garand the guy was cheating you big tiem with a $1500 offer |
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Posted: 8/30/2014 2:03:57 PM EDT
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Very doudbtful, post a clear ,close up pic of the end of the bolt face. Where the brass and primer sets against the bolt If its a truely original NM Garand the guy was cheating you big tiem with a $1500 offer Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Took it to a LDS today who is VERY knowledgeable on the M1 family and he stated "This has NEVER been shot" and "$1500 cash right now for it" I said not just no, but HELL NO! I might have to get just a little more for it than that. THANK YOU EXPERTS! Im going to get a paper trail done and see what I can find out. Very doudbtful, post a clear ,close up pic of the end of the bolt face. Where the brass and primer sets against the bolt If its a truely original NM Garand the guy was cheating you big tiem with a $1500 offer He used a bore diameter guage on it. The gauge went to the first mark. Which means probably test fired only, MAYBE fired a couple of times ther than that. I'll see if I have a picture of the bolt face |
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Posted: 8/30/2014 2:14:37 PM EDT
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That is great with the ME/TE gauges, but that still doesn't tell the whole story. It takes approximately 1000 for the barrel to wear to the next line. It sounds like it is in great shape, but who knows where that rifle has been and what parts have been replaced. It is pretty easy and common for barrels to get replaced. I would still recommend getting on the CMP forums and seeing if someone that is knowledgeable in NM Garands can tell you exactly what it is and a value.
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