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Posted: 1/22/2014 3:36:23 PM EDT
[#1]
Got another Form 4 approved today
Submitted 10/21/2013 Approved 01/22/2014 Kimberly Ramsburg 90 days +/- a few days seems to be the sweet spot, for efile at least. |
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Posted: 1/22/2014 3:42:05 PM EDT
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Got a form 1 filed on 11/21. Just received notification of form 3 approved and arrived yesterday (took 40 days total). Starting 2 form 4's today when I get off from work....can I borrow a time machine anyone?  Specwar 762 and in stock Octane 45.My Specwar 762 got approved today, Octane 45 HD, Spectre II and Sparrow got approved yesterday. Have another month or so for a Form 1 M92 SBR and an Octane 9 HD 2. Get er done, 90 days will fly by 
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Posted: 1/22/2014 8:55:57 PM EDT
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I just had mine approved as well!
Form 1 submitted 10/23/2013 approved today. Control No: 201412xxx I have a Form 4 from the same date that has not been approved.... |
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Posted: 1/22/2014 9:21:42 PM EDT
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they are still cranking them out in 90 days
 Form 4 on 10/22/2013 Stamp notification 01/22/2104
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Posted: 1/23/2014 12:45:47 AM EDT
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I wish I had submitted back in October
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Posted: 1/23/2014 1:04:28 PM EDT
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Come on 10/31s!
I need my first can! Too bad my other two cans were snail mailed over the summer. 
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Posted: 1/23/2014 1:11:06 PM EDT
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Only 1 approval today reported on NFA tracker, and none reported on here yet.
Another slow day 
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Posted: 1/23/2014 1:34:13 PM EDT
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NFA tracker reports are interesting.
Sharp rise, gap, then back to 90 day times. 
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Posted: 1/23/2014 1:38:08 PM EDT
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NFA tracker reports are interesting. Sharp rise, gap, then back to 90 day times. http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj307/Magicman710/ScreenShot2014-01-23at13131PM_zps723f1818.png They were higher than 90 days, then the period of the gov shutdown in October has allowed them to get back within the 90 day window. |
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Posted: 1/23/2014 3:09:44 PM EDT
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The rise is from those submissions having minor approval delays around the Christmas & New Years holiday season. Those were the late Sept submissions, then the gap in early October. So excluding holdiay season, they are holding the 90 day window pretty good although my machinegun did take a few extra days. I'm still waiting on 2 other Form 4 machineguns submitted on 10-22 so I'm in the window now. Let's see if they take the few extra days compared to the suppressors and SBRs again.
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Posted: 1/23/2014 3:16:16 PM EDT
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I expect the 90 days to increase to 4-5 months over the next 2 months.
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Posted: 1/23/2014 3:24:28 PM EDT
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I expect the 90 days to increase to 4-5 months over the next 2 months. I agree. It was trending that way before they caught this 2 week reprieve because of the October '13 shutdown. Once they come out of it, forms will be back to trending at 110+ days and continue to climb. |
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Posted: 1/23/2014 5:07:54 PM EDT
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I agree. It was trending that way before they caught this 2 week reprieve because of the October '13 shutdown. Once they come out of it, forms will be back to trending at 110+ days and continue to climb. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I expect the 90 days to increase to 4-5 months over the next 2 months. I agree. It was trending that way before they caught this 2 week reprieve because of the October '13 shutdown. Once they come out of it, forms will be back to trending at 110+ days and continue to climb. I have a 11/26 that I'm hoping I'll see before Feburary is out. I just submitted another one today so my fingers are crossed for before June. (4 months) |
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Posted: 1/24/2014 8:30:11 AM EDT
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Well, the first Jan 24th approval is up on NFA Tracker, on pace with 90 days (submitted Oct 24). Hopefully they finish the week out strong and we see a bunch of approvals.
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Posted: 1/24/2014 9:05:58 AM EDT
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This thread has done nothing but tempt me to cancel my two paper Form 1s (filed just as EFORMS was made available before anybody knew anything about them) and refile electronically. They didn't go pending until November, so with at least a 9 month wait, I'm fairly certain I'd get the eFiled ones back sooner.
Oh well...probably just wait it out. Have 3 other ones I eFiled in the last 6 weeks, so I'll just play with those until the paper ones arrive. |
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Posted: 1/24/2014 11:56:57 AM EDT
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That email that just came in from the ATF about eform issues might explain the drought of approvals the past two days.
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Posted: 1/24/2014 11:58:28 AM EDT
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That email that just came in from the ATF about eform issues might explain the drought of approvals the past two days. Cant access my personal email from work. Synopsis? Or a gracious copy-paste?
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Posted: 1/24/2014 12:03:28 PM EDT
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That email that just came in from the ATF about eform issues might explain the drought of approvals the past two days. I think that's more related to submissions then processing and approvals. More likely the last two days the examiners were probably working on paper forms and Form 2s, 3s, etc. |
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Posted: 1/24/2014 12:23:04 PM EDT
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I just got this email from the BATF regarding eForms:
Pardon this Interruption!!! ATF eForms has been experiencing some severe performance issues for the past week. Some of the symptoms the users are experiencing include slow response times, inability to finalize and submit forms, pay.gov screen not displaying, inability to view PDF’s, and the system abruptly returning the user back to the home screen. While some users report that they are able to successfully submit forms, others are reporting that they are not. While our technology staff has been actively engaged in trying to resolve the issues, up to this point our efforts have not been successful. We apologize for your inconvenience and your frustration. We are hoping that we will be able to bring the eForms system back to its full operating capacity soon. Once the operations have been restored and you find that you have form 1’s and form 4’s in your draft account that you cannot get submitted and you have paid your tax using pay.gov, please notify us using “Ask the Experts – NFA” and include the confirmation information that you received from pay.gov (that includes the Pay.gov Tracking ID). Refunds are normally processed within 10 business day. We are not taking this lightly. We assure you that we are doing all that can be done to come to resolve the issues. We request your patience and understanding while we work this out. Thank you. |
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Posted: 1/24/2014 2:33:48 PM EDT
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I just got this email from the BATF regarding eForms: Pardon this Interruption!!! ATF eForms has been experiencing some severe performance issues for the past week. Some of the symptoms the users are experiencing include slow response times, inability to finalize and submit forms, pay.gov screen not displaying, inability to view PDF’s, and the system abruptly returning the user back to the home screen. While some users report that they are able to successfully submit forms, others are reporting that they are not. While our technology staff has been actively engaged in trying to resolve the issues, up to this point our efforts have not been successful. We apologize for your inconvenience and your frustration. We are hoping that we will be able to bring the eForms system back to its full operating capacity soon. Once the operations have been restored and you find that you have form 1’s and form 4’s in your draft account that you cannot get submitted and you have paid your tax using pay.gov, please notify us using “Ask the Experts – NFA” and include the confirmation information that you received from pay.gov (that includes the Pay.gov Tracking ID). Refunds are normally processed within 10 business day. We are not taking this lightly. We assure you that we are doing all that can be done to come to resolve the issues. We request your patience and understanding while we work this out. Thank you. Yeah, I got that email too. I wonder if those issues will affect previously submitted forms? |
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Posted: 1/24/2014 3:41:23 PM EDT
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Probably more a connection/performance issue than a database one. The system is working, just so slow that it's unusable.
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Posted: 1/24/2014 5:45:39 PM EDT
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I submitted 10/24, was hoping to see an email today
nope |
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Posted: 1/24/2014 5:53:27 PM EDT
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I submitted 10/24, was hoping to see an email today
nope 4 on 10/23 for me, no cutting the line buddy
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Posted: 1/24/2014 11:16:48 PM EDT
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How do you submit a 100 page trust via Esubmission. Just attach as a PDF? Get another lawyer |
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Posted: 1/24/2014 11:35:29 PM EDT
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How do you submit a 100 page trust via Esubmission. Just attach as a PDF? Get another lawyer Seriously! 
But yes, you submit it as a PDF. There's a 3MB limit per file, and a max of 10 files allowed. No reason for a 100 page trust, but my 26 page is under 1MB. At that rate, you'd only have to split yours into 2 files. |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 9:35:47 AM EDT
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How do you submit a 100 page trust via Esubmission. Just attach as a PDF? Get another lawyer LOL..........
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Posted: 1/25/2014 10:46:51 AM EDT
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How do you submit a 100 page trust via Esubmission. Just attach as a PDF? Get another lawyer LOL.......... Haha this. Mine is 20 pgs, IIRC |
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Posted: 1/25/2014 11:23:22 AM EDT
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Mine is four pages plus three schedules. WTF are your lawyers doing?
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Posted: 1/25/2014 11:38:31 AM EDT
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Mine is 7 pages including schedule.
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Posted: 1/25/2014 2:20:51 PM EDT
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Mine is four pages plus three schedules. WTF are your lawyers doing? mine is around 16 pages or so. it all depends on how it is written and how in depth it goes. and i guess font, font size and margins come in to play too. we all know wingdings is a large font.
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Posted: 1/25/2014 6:36:40 PM EDT
[#31]
No recent approvals?
My trust is about 17 pages if I recall. |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 12:49:06 AM EDT
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Anyone here live around houston that could help me?
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Posted: 1/26/2014 1:45:21 AM EDT
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Anyone here live around houston that could help me? What are you needing help with??? Send me a PM, maybe I can help |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 6:52:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThere's a 3MB limit per file, and a max of 10 files allowed. No reason for a 100 page trust, but my 26 page is under 1MB. At that rate, you'd only have to split yours into 2 files. I thought the limit was 4MB? This is a problem as I did all the shrinking possible to get mine down to 3.5 mb.... My suppressors are still on Form 3, haven't filed yet so I'd really appreciate a solid answer to this |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 7:46:44 AM EDT
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so whats the problem split the 4 meg file in 1/2 and you then can up load it to 2 of the 10 3 mb slots available. heck you can upload it 5 times with all that room.
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Posted: 1/26/2014 10:07:32 AM EDT
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so whats the problem split the 4 meg file in 1/2 and you then can up load it to 2 of the 10 3 mb slots available. heck you can upload it 5 times with all that room. I believe the general consensus, at least from what I've seen in this thread, is that the less you have to split and upload, the less chance there is of eforms crashing on you.... If you take your trust to Staples, or the like, you can get it scanned to a USB and it will be a much smaller file size than if you do it on your home scanner (unless you've got a commercial scanner at your house). |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 10:40:47 AM EDT
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Anyone here live around houston that could help me? What are you needing help with??? Send me a PM, maybe I can help I figured it out and submitted one this morning. Now to submit one for a SBS and one for my TObr and I'll be good. |
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Posted: 1/26/2014 8:43:41 PM EDT
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Getting something scanned will always result in a file larger than if you just print it to .pdf. I always just take my Word doc, along with the schedules, and print them to .pdf using PDF Creator (http://www.pdfforge.org/). The result is a MUCH cleaner, smaller file than an image file.
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Posted: 1/26/2014 9:30:09 PM EDT
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Well, yes. But you need to send them a copy of the executed trust, and the only way to do that is to scan at least the signature pages.
I imagine you could print to PDF for the rest of the trust, and scan the signature page, but by my way of thinking, the complete signed trust is the actual instrument, and should be treated as a single entity, so I'm not sure that's a good idea. But I'm not an attorney and may be wrong. However, I don't know if the ATF might object if there is a visible quality difference in the printed to PDF pages vs the signed pages of a document uploaded as the trust. |
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Posted: 1/27/2014 8:39:36 AM EDT
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Hopefully this week is better than last, seemed EFile approvals dropped off after Wednesday.
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Posted: 1/27/2014 8:41:56 AM EDT
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This is the site that I used to reduce the file size of my trust pdf.
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Posted: 1/27/2014 10:50:16 AM EDT
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Form 1 Approved today. I received an e-mail with a status updated that it was approved. I submiited on 10/28/13.
I had four attached when I filed. No issues except the process was a little slow on the website. I logged in printed it off. I will be shooting today.
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Posted: 1/27/2014 10:53:42 AM EDT
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Eform 1 approved today.
Submitted: 10/25/13 Approved: 01/27/14 |
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Posted: 1/27/2014 10:54:17 AM EDT
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Form 1 Approved today. I received an e-mail with a status updated that it was approved. I submiited on 10/28/13. I had four attached when I filed. No issues except the process was a little slow on the website. I logged in printed it off. I will be shooting today. Nice! Congrats and go have some fun. Saw another reported approval today from a 10/25/13 submission. Looks like they hit the ground running this morning
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Posted: 1/27/2014 10:59:55 AM EDT
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I imagine you could print to PDF for the rest of the trust, and scan the signature page, This is what I did, and my eForm 1 was approved on 17 Jan (filed 19 Oct) that way. Yes, the completed signed document is the actual trust instrument, but a PDF created this way is still an exact representation of that instrument. That would not be the case if there were, say, pen-and-ink changes on one of the pages, but those would call the validity of the instrument into question anyway. |
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Posted: 1/27/2014 10:59:58 AM EDT
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Does the approval come from the *@atf.gov email that the Eforms system uses or does it come from a *@usdoj.gov email like the examiners use?
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Posted: 1/27/2014 11:01:01 AM EDT
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It comes from [email protected].
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Posted: 1/27/2014 11:07:11 AM EDT
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10/25 Form 1 approved
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Posted: 1/27/2014 1:20:58 PM EDT
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Submitted 10/24/13
Approved 1/27/14 2014134XX 
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Posted: 1/27/2014 1:41:39 PM EDT
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Glad to see some late October dates getting approved.
Come on 10/31s! I'm more excited for my first can than I was my first SBR. |
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