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Posted: 2/23/2008 3:18:38 PM EDT
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USA
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Posted: 2/25/2008 10:30:11 AM EDT
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Great Pics !!
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Posted: 2/25/2008 11:59:26 AM EDT
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Notice the canteen covers stuffed with mags.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 2/25/2008 8:06:48 PM EDT
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Yep, old SOG trick. 
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Posted: 2/27/2008 10:57:09 AM EDT
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I posted this in AR Discussions a week ago. I found it interesting since the C8 now has M4 profile barrel but this one has a lightweight barrel and a rail. It must have been a transition gun. These are Canadian forces. The 203 version I cant identify but it does have C7 upper.
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VA, USA
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Posted: 2/27/2008 12:25:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Thatguy96]
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C8 carbines have never had an M4 profile barrel that I've seen. What Colt Canada sells as the C8A2 has a profile unique to it, and is actually fatter forward of the FSB, though not to the extreme of the SFW. C8s had A1 profile barrels, C8A1s had A2 profile barrels. |
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Posted: 2/28/2008 12:48:54 AM EDT
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Great links and info! never seen those before. Thanks. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2008 10:13:30 AM EDT
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I wonder what the profile is underneath their handguards. Those are cool.
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VA, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2008 10:58:26 AM EDT
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The C8 should have a full A1 profile, that is lightweight under the HG too. Similarly, the C8A1 should have a full A2 profile, that is in the gov't profile of fatter forward of the FSB and lightweight under the HG. The SFW has a full-heavy profile like the Colt 921HB, but has a unique bulge forward of the FSB. I'm not sure what the profile for the from-factory Colt Canada C8A2 looks like. The Canadian service guns that have held that designation are more likely of an SFW type. |
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Posted: 2/28/2008 11:05:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: FITTER]
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I don't know if these would be considered "retro" any more than the A2 would, but interest in them seems to be on the rise. I, for one, would like to see more people doing Diemaco clones, especially considering the availability of the C7-style uppers.
Notice that for the SFW, Diemaco/Colt Canada opted for a 16 inch barrel rather than the 14.5" of the C8. All we need now is for someone to market the special sleeve to put on the front of a 16" LW barrel (although technically the SFW is heavy under the handguards). EDIT: Thatguy is right; an SFW clone would have a 16" HBAR barrel profile, with the above-mentioned grenade launcher adaptor sleeve installed behind the flash suppressor. A nice C8 clone would have a 14.5" LW barrel, although you'd be hard-pressed to find an actual Diemaco hammer-forged barrel. |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 3/15/2008 11:59:03 AM EDT
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 With the 14.5" barrel and 7" handguards, it looks like a modern-day 16" Mid-length gas rifle. |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 3/25/2008 10:18:29 PM EDT
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What's Lawrence Fishburne doing with a Sten? I though he was 60 gunner. |
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Posted: 3/28/2008 12:27:04 PM EDT
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NICE
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/2/2008 7:26:19 PM EDT
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Osprey21,
where did you get the picture of the two Laotians with a fellow from the CIA in the middle? 
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Posted: 4/3/2008 9:41:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: pevrs114]
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That's what we took to Iraq in 2005. Overstamp A2's that used to be A1's. Pics-  
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Posted: 4/9/2008 6:11:04 AM EDT
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The gentleman in the photo is an old acquaintance. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 5/9/2008 9:43:41 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/13/2008 9:38:45 AM EDT
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KY, USA
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Posted: 5/13/2008 6:19:37 PM EDT
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Those guys must be some tough guys to fight daily in the heat and humidity of SE Asia ...man its cool to see those old Vietnam Ranger/LRRP pics
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Posted: 5/14/2008 11:15:11 AM EDT
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+1 Great historic pics. Who is that last fella? |
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Posted: 5/18/2008 1:41:31 PM EDT
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These are pics of my dad and his best friend. They were 45B, Thailand, circa 1972.
     
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Posted: 5/20/2008 10:50:47 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/20/2008 11:58:56 PM EDT
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Can someone answer a quick question? A lot of the photos have guys in Vietnam wearing "boonie" hats that appear to have had the brim cut down. Is this a field modification or were the hats made like this?
Doc |
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Posted: 5/21/2008 12:14:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: joelad]
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The M16A1 (along with my gear) I carried in Beirut.
 I apologize for the quality. It's a scan of a pic taken with a Kodak Disc camera. had I known I be a future Retro nut, I would have taken detailed pics. |
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Posted: 5/21/2008 1:57:53 PM EDT
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Field mods. Cut-down brims, frayed brims & bandoleer loops, spray painted, you name it. |
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Posted: 5/22/2008 12:57:03 AM EDT
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Thanks osprey21, it must have been a popular field mod, I can't believe how many pictures show the cut down hats. They even got it right in Green Berets with John Wayne. Doc |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 5/22/2008 11:22:54 AM EDT
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I'd like to put in 2c here, most of the ones shown here have been short brim boonies that were made in-country that way. |
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Posted: 5/22/2008 1:59:59 PM EDT
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That's also correct. You could have literally anything uniform related custom tailored for a pittance in the RVN and, some of them survive to this day.  
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USA
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Posted: 5/22/2008 3:42:49 PM EDT
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True, lot's of in country tailored boonies almost look like beanies. Many shrunk up during water ops, rain, etc.
Some of the really neat ones have a single modded pocket on top for a pack of Cigs, or spare mag. Hal |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/27/2008 7:00:20 PM EDT
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My friend, Joe Parnar and RT Ohio teammate Moc, MACV-SOG, CCC, 1968 (photo scanned from Joe's book, SOG Medic).
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ITA
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Posted: 5/28/2008 3:24:32 AM EDT
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I've found these 2 pics over militaryphotos.net. The guy in the first pic is a user called "Zquek"...I gave you his name so that you can contact him if you want more info
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Posted: 6/2/2008 2:56:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: imdBman]
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Is the A2 Retro? Feels like it to me at almost 20 years ago. Camp pendleton in 89.
 
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Posted: 6/4/2008 8:19:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: osprey21]
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Posted: 6/9/2008 12:13:00 PM EDT
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found these.... Iraqi Freedom or Vietnam?
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/9/2008 9:04:45 PM EDT
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is this short round from indiana jones?? 
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Posted: 6/10/2008 3:08:21 PM EDT
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NC, USA
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Posted: 6/21/2008 11:36:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RTUtah]
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Dunno if this is a repost or not...
The photo is labeled "Delta Project" but I'm skeptical. I've never seen photos of SF, Rangers, LRRPs, or LRPs wearing steel pots out in the bush. That guy's a grunt with a full-stock XM. I wanna say E1, but the moderator isn't close enough to the FSB, so I'm going with E2. Now, I've never seen a grunt with an E2 before, so I don't know what the hell to think. 
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USA
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Posted: 6/23/2008 1:06:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Hal143]
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Maybe Delta meaning Mekong Delta? Some kinda project in the delta region?
As opposed to SF Project Delta. Looks like a very early 30 rounder too. Hal |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 6/24/2008 6:01:09 PM EDT
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I would think it depends on when it was taken and what exactly the situation was. There's a picture of two US Special Forces NCOs and their Montagnard RTO of 5th MSF showing them all wearing steel pots dated 1969 in a book I have. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 6/24/2008 7:55:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RTUtah]
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Were they in the field or profiling for the lens? What book is it just out of curiosity? I don't doubt some guys wore steel pots on occasion, but that chap is taking a map reading while in the field, not profiling for the camera. Although those do look like tigers and that is a BAR belt he's wearing with a recon knife taped upside down on his shoulder strap... 
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WI, USA
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Posted: 6/25/2008 3:10:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: firefighter1241]
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NC, USA
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Posted: 7/12/2008 6:16:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/9/2008 11:14:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Morg308]
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I understand a lot of guys had their boonies cut down in theater. I have a Filson hat that is the absolute shit in a heavy rain - wide brim, tin cloth, really a personal umbrella. I wouldn't trade it for the world...but I noticed that my hearing was restricted by it. Makes me think the original reason was for better hearing, then it may have become 'the thing' as troops coming in learned from their predecessors. After several years, it might be like wearing a baseball cap backwards now is - no one remembers the real reason you might do that. (On a dirt bike, going fast, it makes sense.) Just a thought.
ETA: my boonies are all ancient, and a shorter brim than current, some design, some shrinkage, but not cut down to 1-1/2" or anything. I do fold my boonies and my Filson up at the rear to accomodate a pack. (looking up) Wish the boonies had a place in the inside crown to store reading glasses.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 8/10/2008 8:46:28 AM EDT
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Another reason why cut-down boonies were a favorite among recon guys was because the full-brimmed deals limited vision, especially where the fabric was folded and limp. Bad enough they could only see 30-40 meters through triple-canopy jungle, but they sure as hell didn't need anything else inhibiting their sight and depth perception.
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Posted: 8/10/2008 4:23:02 PM EDT
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My cut-down boonie...farthest from camera in center of pic.
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OH, USA
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Posted: 8/10/2008 6:59:32 PM EDT
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RTUtah,
That is the reason why allot of SOG wore either nothing on their head or just a bandana. SOG operating out of FOB1 wore helmets almost all of the time because of the seige. RT Ohio MACVSOG "Living Historian" |
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Posted: 8/10/2008 8:01:37 PM EDT
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More pics from my AO
 
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Posted: 10/1/2008 6:32:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: osprey21]
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OK, USA
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Posted: 10/20/2008 6:13:14 PM EDT
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The man in this picture is COL Jim Montano. He was my Brigade Commender in the 101st in 1993. I got an ARCOM from him!
All the Way! Air Assault! 
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