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Posted: 1/14/2024 3:17:54 PM EDT
I have an old Surefire Z3 Combatlight that I've have for a number of years that I'd like to (again) upgrade. It's currently wearing a Surefire KX4 head and surely there are brighter offerings available.
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MO, USA
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Posted: 1/14/2024 5:00:33 PM EDT
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Malkoff devices is whom you seek I have two z3 lights& have upgraded both....worth the money as it not only makes them brighter but extends battery life.
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Posted: 1/15/2024 2:32:19 PM EDT
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Yep, malkof bulb and 16650 batteries in my old 6P and 6Z lights
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Posted: 1/15/2024 3:03:44 PM EDT
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Herein lies the rub- I cannot find the original head to accept the drop-in.
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Posted: 1/15/2024 3:21:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bklyn_Irish: Herein lies the rub- I cannot find the original head to accept the drop-in. Black or gray? Check the EE or Ebay. Any Surefire Z44 bezel will work, and even I probably have an extra or two. |
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Posted: 1/15/2024 3:41:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GunnyG]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 3-gun: Yep, malkof bulb and 16650 batteries in my old 6P and 6Z lights Since OP has a Z3, he can run one 16650 and a dummy CR123 behind a M61 or M361, or 3 16340 batteries behind a M91 LED module (higher lumens, higher voltage, less amperage, lower run time). I have a M361 in my old 6Z combatlight, and get plenty of run time from a 16650. The current version of the M361 is rated for being selectable between 30, 200, or 500 lumens coming from 3.7 to 9vdc. |
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Posted: 1/15/2024 3:56:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Bklyn_Irish]
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So $40 or so for an OEM Z44 plus the drop-in LED unit?
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Posted: 1/15/2024 4:04:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GunnyG: Black or gray? Check the EE or Ebay. Any Surefire Z44 bezel will work, and even I probably have an extra or two. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GunnyG: Originally Posted By Bklyn_Irish: Herein lies the rub- I cannot find the original head to accept the drop-in. Black or gray? Check the EE or Ebay. Any Surefire Z44 bezel will work, and even I probably have an extra or two. Black. Shoot me a PM if you'd like to part with one. |
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Posted: 1/15/2024 5:16:57 PM EDT
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It’s the cheapest way to save a quality older light
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Posted: 1/15/2024 7:06:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bklyn_Irish: Black. Shoot me a PM if you'd like to part with one. I'll have to take a look, but am pretty sure that you may be in luck ;-) |
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Posted: 1/15/2024 9:05:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Bklyn_Irish]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 3-gun: It’s the cheapest way to save a quality older lighthttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/751/image_jpg-3095674.JPG I have a SureFire G2 Nitrolon that will get the same treatment. |
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Posted: 1/15/2024 10:56:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GunnyG]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bklyn_Irish: I have a SureFire G2 Nitrolon that will get the same treatment. The M61LL is a good choice for those. I've done several that way too. It's only 100 lumens, and Malkoff suggests not using his hotter/higher lumen modules in the plastic bezel and body flashlights, to prevent them from getting melted. It's great for a light to leave for use in the truck, and I use a 16650 that has a built-in USB charging port, so I don't need any more than just a common USB cable and a powerport to charge it, in the truck.  BTW Bklyn_ , a PM has been sent your way |
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Posted: 1/16/2024 3:52:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GunnyG: The M61LL is a good choice for those. I've done several that way too. It's only 100 lumens, and Malkoff suggests not using his hotter/higher lumen modules in the plastic bezel and body flashlights, to prevent them from getting melted. It's great for a light to leave for use in the truck, and I use a 16650 that has a built-in USB charging port, so I don't need any more than just a common USB cable and a powerport to charge it, in the truck. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12179/image-3096184.jpg BTW Bklyn_ , a PM has been sent your way Guess I'll leave the G2 be with its KX4. No sense in chasing lumens on that one. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/20/2024 12:49:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bklyn_Irish: Guess I'll leave the G2 be with its KX4. No sense in chasing lumens on that one. The KX4 head works great. Have one on an M4 carbine and one on a bedside light (G3 body). Not the brightest, but very good for dog-walking and back yard fun at night. Paladin |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 1/26/2024 10:47:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 3-gun: It’s the cheapest way to save a quality older lighthttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/751/image_jpg-3095674.JPG Wait.... you're telling me I can get my ancient Z2 a little closer to this century's output???? |
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Posted: 1/26/2024 10:58:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SnaitN: Wait.... you're telling me I can get my ancient Z2 a little closer to this century's output???? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SnaitN: Originally Posted By 3-gun: It’s the cheapest way to save a quality older lighthttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/751/image_jpg-3095674.JPG Wait.... you're telling me I can get my ancient Z2 a little closer to this century's output???? Yes |
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Posted: 1/26/2024 11:58:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By 3-gun: Originally Posted By SnaitN: Originally Posted By 3-gun: It’s the cheapest way to save a quality older lighthttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/751/image_jpg-3095674.JPG Wait.... you're telling me I can get my ancient Z2 a little closer to this century's output???? Yes A Malkoff M91 is waiting for the Z44 bezel that is coming in today. Looking forward to putting them together. |
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Posted: 1/26/2024 6:34:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Bklyn_Irish]
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Posted: 1/26/2024 8:16:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GunnyG]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bklyn_Irish: WOW!!! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/33069/1000009790_jpg-3108307.JPG  Even when I have my pick of the newest streamlight and surefire, I've never regretted buying Malkoff  |
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Posted: 1/26/2024 9:29:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GunnyG: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/toast_gif-994.gif Even when I have my pick of the newest streamlight and surefire, I've never regretted buying Malkoff https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12179/image-3108397.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GunnyG: Originally Posted By Bklyn_Irish: WOW!!! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/33069/1000009790_jpg-3108307.JPG Even when I have my pick of the newest streamlight and surefire, I've never regretted buying Malkoff https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12179/image-3108397.jpg Thanks again, Gunny. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/26/2024 11:45:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PALADIN-hgwt]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bklyn_Irish: A Malkoff M91 is waiting for the Z44 bezel that is coming in today. Looking forward to putting them together. A little late but I wanted to mention that the M61 runs fine on 3 CR123's. Great on 2x17500 as well. Input spec. is 3.8 to 9 volts. With the M91 you can run it from 3 CR123's and get 40 minutes or so. I'm using it in a 4 cell body so I can run 2x18650 for great run time. And it can handle 4 CR123's per Cathy. But you don't need a M91 for a 3 cell body. It's safe, but overkill and won't run in regulation down to 3.8 volts like the M61 will. Paladin |
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Posted: 1/26/2024 11:55:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3-gun]
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When the last of my 123’s die, I’ll start using the 16650 batteries I bought.
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Posted: 1/27/2024 1:00:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 3-gun: When the last of my 123’s die, I’ll start using the 16650 batteries I bought. I'm new to the rechargeable batteries in place of the CR123As. Are they reliable enough for duty use? |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 3:04:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: GunnyG]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bklyn_Irish: I'm new to the rechargeable batteries in place of the CR123As. a back Are they reliable enough for duty use? Can you try it out and see? Keep a set of primary CR123s in your bag as a backup. I'd say yes, and my uses are still daily, but more along the lines of turning out and supervising dogs in the dark, lighting up dark storeroom shelves, and closing up and securing a 110 year old retail shop several times a week. When I went battery shopping, I went with what Malkoff was selling on his website, as a testimonial as much as a guideline. He was selling EFest 16340s and Keeppower 16650, and 18650. They're all still chugging along just fine. From a daily use standpoint, I will attest to the reliability of the Keeppower brand 16650 2100mah batteries. I've got multiple years of use out of the set I initially bought, and I'm going to try out their USB rechargeable 3v 850mah RCR123A in my SF 3v Aviator. https://illumn.com/16340-keeppower-860mah-p1634u1-3v-rcr123a-protected-button-top-2-pack-please-read-description.html |
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