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AZ, USA
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Posted: 3/26/2024 9:44:07 PM EDT
Any recommendations on a decent set that won't bend on the first hit? Thoughts on this set?https://www.amazon.com/dp/B012TKY0VI
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USA
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Posted: 3/26/2024 11:11:32 PM EDT
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Can’t say.
But the last time this got asked I bookmarked the thread and remember that Rose received high marks from a lot of arf.com. The Wheeler punches I bought for lower builds are trash. I spend more time tapping them back straight than I do driving pins with them. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 1:57:34 AM EDT
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I’ve tried at least 5 other roll pin sets and this is the only one that met my expectations.
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1018248140?pid=258460 And this one for the bolt catch pin. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1016569732?pid=462234 Hope this helps! |
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MT, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 4:04:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: spyderboy03]
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Originally Posted By ArizonaAR: Any recommendations on a decent set that won't bend on the first hit? Thoughts on this set?https://www.amazon.com/dp/B012TKY0VI ETA: I also have some squirrel daddy roll pin starter punches, and a set of flat tipped ones from a long time ago. The smallest of it broke and the second smallest bent. Heck, the $7 1/16" punch from Lowe's bent. The Tekton 1/16" is the most solid 1/16" punch I've used so far. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 6:36:43 AM EDT
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I have that set, I bent the 1/8" punch abusing it, sent them a pic of the bent punch and they had a new one on the way to me that same day.
Ive been happy with it, if you order on their site you get rewards points to use on any other stuff you buy from them. https://www.tekton.com/punch-set-with-walnut-block-66564 |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 6:53:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/27/2024 7:20:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TGWLDR]
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Mayhew or Starrett.
Cheap sets will just cause you headaches. Buying them individually in sizes needed is sometimes more cost effective. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 8:36:56 AM EDT
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I have a set of these from brownells. Grace USA for $35. I have built many AR’s with them. Never bent one.
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MN, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 10:00:10 AM EDT
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Pressing is sooo much more kind and humane than punching
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IA, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 10:04:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jmo371: I have that set, I bent the 1/8" punch abusing it, sent them a pic of the bent punch and they had a new one on the way to me that same day. Ive been happy with it, if you order on their site you get rewards points to use on any other stuff you buy from them. https://www.tekton.com/punch-set-with-walnut-block-66564 came to say this |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 11:33:54 AM EDT
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Thanks everyone for the suggestions and comments!
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 1:50:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By s4s4u: Pressing is sooo much more kind and humane than punching Sometimes you have to let it know who's the boss . . . |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 2:34:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: OTDR]
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Originally Posted By ArizonaAR: Any recommendations on a decent set that won't bend on the first hit? Thoughts on this set?https://www.amazon.com/dp/B012TKY0VI What's your budget? Are you a poor? If not Obsidian Arms, $60, and SOLGW by Obsidian $99 but you get 5 more punches and upgrades. Primary Arms sells the SOLGW by Obsidian and usually you can get a 12% discount. https://www.primaryarms.com/sons-of-liberty-gun-works-armorers-punch-kit Directly from Obsidian or Brownells. https://www.brownells.com/tools-cleaning/general-gunsmith-tools/punches/ar-15-complete-armorers-12-piece-punch-set/ I own both, recently did a review on the Sons, its a great kit. And if they break, warranted for life! email them a pic of the broke punch and they send a new one right out.  Sons of Liberty Gun Works Armorers Punch Kit |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 3:08:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OTDR: What's your budget? Are you a poor? If not Obsidian Arms, $60, and SOLGW by Obsidian $99 but you get 5 more punches and upgrades. Primary Arms sells the SOLGW by Obsidian and usually you can get a 12% discount. https://www.primaryarms.com/sons-of-liberty-gun-works-armorers-punch-kit Directly from Obsidian or Brownells. https://www.brownells.com/tools-cleaning/general-gunsmith-tools/punches/ar-15-complete-armorers-12-piece-punch-set/ I own both, recently did a review on the Sons, its a great kit. And if they break, warranted for life! email them a pic of the broke punch and they send a new one right out.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWBWT0W4MacI was actually looking at this set. I already have the 2 punch bolt catch set from a different brand.https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004FCO5EG?language=en_US&linkCode=osi&tag=bravesoftwa04-20&th=1 |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 3:26:32 PM EDT
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The Brownell kit is a about the same price, may just go for that one instead, thanks.
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GA, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 3:35:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: OTDR]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArizonaAR: The Brownell kit is a about the same price, may just go for that one instead, thanks. The Brownell kit is AR specific. That Amazon kit doesn't have a 5/64 for gas tube and contains a lot of punches you don't need for an AR. Brownell's have lifetime guarantee also. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 5:31:01 PM EDT
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Brownell's it is, thanks.
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MO, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 5:35:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SM0KESCREEN]
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The set I use the most. They are solid and never failed me. Often I use a starter set to get them started too 
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Posted: 3/27/2024 5:37:58 PM EDT
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I prefer Grace punches
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Posted: 3/27/2024 7:20:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jmo371: I have that set, I bent the 1/8" punch abusing it, sent them a pic of the bent punch and they had a new one on the way to me that same day. Ive been happy with it, if you order on their site you get rewards points to use on any other stuff you buy from them. https://www.tekton.com/punch-set-with-walnut-block-66564 I just bought one of those sets a few weeks back and I must say, they are pretty good. Made in the US (by Wilde, if I remember correctly) and sold under the Tekton name. The only bad thing is the set doesn't include hollow roll pin starter punches. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 8:16:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SM0KESCREEN: www.amazon.com/dp/B007WADKN0 The set I use the most. They are solid and never failed me. Often I use a starter set to get them started too www.amazon.com/dp/B00O6HHCOA Even more choices 
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Posted: 3/27/2024 10:36:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JamesTheScot: ... The Wheeler punches I bought for lower builds are trash. I spend more time tapping them back straight than I do driving pins with them. this. wheeler punches are junk. came out of the package not straight. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 5:17:27 AM EDT
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I use Grace punches. I've had cheaper and they definitely didn't hold up. I've used more expensive punches and didn't find them any better than Grace. No sense paying more for no return on investment.
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Posted: 3/28/2024 2:27:52 PM EDT
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What we use in Armorer courses mostly are from Proto. Some of our Proto roll pin punches have thousands of Armorers and Gunsmiths beating on them annually, and we have had lots of these punches in service for years, so they hold up very well. The Lyman roll pin punches are of decent quality as well.
CY6 Greg Sullivan "Sully" SLR15 Rifles DefensiveEdge.com (763) 712-0123 |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 2:48:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: engineer61]
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I don't have this particular set, but I recommend Mayhew punches; if you don't need the large diameter punches get the 9 punch set and save the money.
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MS, USA
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Posted: 3/30/2024 9:04:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JamesTheScot: Can’t say. But the last time this got asked I bookmarked the thread and remember that Rose received high marks from a lot of arf.com. The Wheeler punches I bought for lower builds are trash. I spend more time tapping them back straight than I do driving pins with them. Sounds like operator error to me. Have not bent any of mine and doubt I ever will if I continue to use them correctly. |
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Posted: 3/30/2024 10:39:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/7/2024 10:53:11 AM EDT
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I have the Tekton set and it works good for the money. You can't beat on small punches and expect them to hold up.
That said, I've switched out a lot of my roll pins to stainless steel coil pins. There's a guy on eBay that sells them sized specifically for an AR. They go in so much easier, stay put, and whatever grade of stainless they are doesn't seem to rust as easily as a phosphate finished steel roll pin that gets dinged by a punch. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 4/7/2024 2:25:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: OTDR]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jhon: I have the Tekton set and it works good for the money. You can't beat on small punches and expect them to hold up. That said, I've switched out a lot of my roll pins to stainless steel coil pins. There's a guy on eBay that sells them sized specifically for an AR. They go in so much easier, stay put, and whatever grade of stainless they are doesn't seem to rust as easily as a phosphate finished steel roll pin that gets dinged by a punch. I also use the coiled stainless for the Forward Assist and the Trigger guard, as the larger coiled pins go in easier and are under little stress. However the smaller pins like the ejector roll pin which takes a pounding, the smaller mil spec slotted pins go in just as easy as the stainless coiled and are 25% stronger than the stainless coiled. Me personally Im not interested in putting in a 25% weaker pin for the bolt ejector and the gas tube. Personal preference for me when the stainless coiled has no other advantage. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/9/2024 10:02:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jhon: I have the Tekton set and it works good for the money. You can't beat on small punches and expect them to hold up. That said, I've switched out a lot of my roll pins to stainless steel coil pins. There's a guy on eBay that sells them sized specifically for an AR. They go in so much easier, stay put, and whatever grade of stainless they are doesn't seem to rust as easily as a phosphate finished steel roll pin that gets dinged by a punch. Could you give me a name, please? |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 11:24:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CatBacker: Could you give me a name, please? Here's one guy. Roll pins |
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USA
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Posted: 4/10/2024 7:47:09 AM EDT
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IA, USA
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Posted: 4/13/2024 1:34:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGWLDR: Mayhew or Starrett. Cheap sets will just cause you headaches. Buying them individually in sizes needed is sometimes more cost effective. I can vouch for the Starrette. I have two sets, pin and roll pin that were used when I bought them about 35 years ago. They came in round wooden cases if you can call them that. |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 2:32:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By IowaFox: I can vouch for the Starrette. I have two sets, pin and roll pin that were used when I bought them about 35 years ago. They came in round wooden cases if you can call them that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By IowaFox: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Mayhew or Starrett. Cheap sets will just cause you headaches. Buying them individually in sizes needed is sometimes more cost effective. I can vouch for the Starrette. I have two sets, pin and roll pin that were used when I bought them about 35 years ago. They came in round wooden cases if you can call them that. Starrett does not manufacture any roll pin punches. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 4/13/2024 7:36:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryI wouldn't buy that set, 9 punches of which only 4 are needed for AR-15 work, you can buy the same 4 Mayhew from McMaster Carr for less than half the price, throwing away a lot of money buying that set for AR-15 work. |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 9:12:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By racer765: this. wheeler punches are junk. came out of the package not straight. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By racer765: Originally Posted By JamesTheScot: ... The Wheeler punches I bought for lower builds are trash. I spend more time tapping them back straight than I do driving pins with them. this. wheeler punches are junk. came out of the package not straight. |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 9:45:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TGE]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By IowaFox: I can vouch for the Starrette. I have two sets, pin and roll pin that were used when I bought them about 35 years ago. They came in round wooden cases if you can call them that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By IowaFox: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Mayhew or Starrett. Cheap sets will just cause you headaches. Buying them individually in sizes needed is sometimes more cost effective. I can vouch for the Starrette. I have two sets, pin and roll pin that were used when I bought them about 35 years ago. They came in round wooden cases if you can call them that. Same is true of Allen wrenches. Got a set of Bondhus made in USA and they're a major upgrade that get used all the time. Eta missed the roll pin part. Uhm, no recommendation since I made my own from brass on the lathe, but if you need regular punches see above 
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