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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:39:47 PM EDT
Right now I'm using the clicky tail cap on both my Modlite and Surefire lights. Activating the cap requires me to change the position of my thumb(I wrap it over the top of the rail) and my set-up isn't ambi(wife is RH, I'm LH) in case someone else need to use it. Im thinking of switching to the UE tail cap with a Modbutton.
How reliable would the UE/Modbutton combo be? The connection doesn't appear to be waterproof like the clicky cap and it looks like it adds another point of failure. |
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Posted: 2/17/2024 10:59:36 PM EDT
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The UE is actually pretty spotty, usually due to anodizing or cerakote getting on the threads which causes grounding issues. But I do believe that it also has socket issues.
I'd go with a DS00 tailcap. Not only is it more reliable, but it adds a pushbutton backup |
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Posted: 2/18/2024 10:34:00 AM EDT
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Unity axon and gas cap get my vote
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Posted: 2/18/2024 5:42:53 PM EDT
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I had remote switches in the past but fragility and reliability caused me to revert to click tail caps/
I even use the button on LAMs. |
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Posted: 2/22/2024 8:00:11 PM EDT
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just mount the light at 12 o' clock larry vickers style
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Posted: 2/22/2024 9:12:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shackleford_R: just mount the light at 12 o' clock larry vickers style I'd have to ditch the BUIS to do that. I think I'll just stick with where I have it and leave the clicky cap on, with a little more time I'll be used to where it's at. |
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Posted: 2/22/2024 11:18:17 PM EDT
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Really like running a clicky cap at around 10:30. It falls right under my thumb and is all natural.
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Posted: 2/23/2024 3:22:00 AM EDT
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Ironically, my gascap has failed, and the Axon was functioning fine plugged into it, so the remote became the only working/reliable aspect, lol!
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Posted: 2/23/2024 9:17:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Teller_Ulam]
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I prefer to run a click tailcap and avoid remote switches unless I absolutely have to. Like with a peq15 where I cannot reach the tail cap of the light. I have found the DS and the mod switches to be reliable. I have had a tape switch that came from Steiner fail.
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Posted: 2/23/2024 11:33:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Screwball]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stowe: Really like running a clicky cap at around 10:30. It falls right under my thumb and is all natural. This is my go to… I used to have a SureFire pressure switch, but it would be warrantied swapped, at the most, every three years. First ran on my Tavor and now my Colt 6920. Either it would stay on and pushing it would shut off or stop working all together. Surefire was great, but didn’t want it not working when I needed it to. Standard tail caps for me. |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 1:25:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Screwball: This is my go to… I used to have a SureFire pressure switch, but it would be warrantied swapped, at the most, every three years. First ran on my Tavor and now my Colt 6920. Either it would stay on and pushing it would shut off or stop working all together. Surefire was great, but didn’t want it not working when I needed it to. Standard tail caps for me. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Screwball: Originally Posted By Stowe: Really like running a clicky cap at around 10:30. It falls right under my thumb and is all natural. This is my go to… I used to have a SureFire pressure switch, but it would be warrantied swapped, at the most, every three years. First ran on my Tavor and now my Colt 6920. Either it would stay on and pushing it would shut off or stop working all together. Surefire was great, but didn’t want it not working when I needed it to. Standard tail caps for me. More of this. I'm sure there are situations where a remote switch makes more sense, but for my needs. A clicky tail cap works great. |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 1:48:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Screwball: This is my go to… I used to have a SureFire pressure switch, but it would be warrantied swapped, at the most, every three years. First ran on my Tavor and now my Colt 6920. Either it would stay on and pushing it would shut off or stop working all together. Surefire was great, but didn’t want it not working when I needed it to. Standard tail caps for me. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Screwball: Originally Posted By Stowe: Really like running a clicky cap at around 10:30. It falls right under my thumb and is all natural. This is my go to… I used to have a SureFire pressure switch, but it would be warrantied swapped, at the most, every three years. First ran on my Tavor and now my Colt 6920. Either it would stay on and pushing it would shut off or stop working all together. Surefire was great, but didn’t want it not working when I needed it to. Standard tail caps for me. Agreed. If you’re only running a single light, a clicky cap is the way to go. Having to slightly change the position of your thumb can be a positive in order to avoid an accidental discharge of the light. |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 9:02:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By :JohnDough Ironically, my gascap has failed, and the Axon was functioning fine plugged into it, so the remote became the only working/reliable aspect, lol! @JohnDough Can you elaborate on the gascap failure? |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 1:09:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MagnusActual: @JohnDough Can you elaborate on the gascap failure? The axon button functioned 100% as intended. The gas cap worked sometimes, other times would produce no response, a flash/blink, or a dully glowing led die that would blink dimly as though a connection were loose. Upon removing the axon, the gas cap alone continued to do this. I determined thus that the axon is fine. Replacing the gascap with a surefire clicky also resulted in zero issue. Unity has sent a return label. |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 12:04:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MagnusActual]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnDough: The axon button functioned 100% as intended. The gas cap worked sometimes, other times would produce no response, a flash/blink, or a dully glowing led die that would blink dimly as though a connection were loose. Upon removing the axon, the gas cap alone continued to do this. I determined thus that the axon is fine. Replacing the gascap with a surefire clicky also resulted in zero issue. Unity has sent a return label. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnDough: Originally Posted By MagnusActual: @JohnDough Can you elaborate on the gascap failure? The axon button functioned 100% as intended. The gas cap worked sometimes, other times would produce no response, a flash/blink, or a dully glowing led die that would blink dimly as though a connection were loose. Upon removing the axon, the gas cap alone continued to do this. I determined thus that the axon is fine. Replacing the gascap with a surefire clicky also resulted in zero issue. Unity has sent a return label. Interesting. I received a couple to test out. Failure under normal usage doesn't inspire confidence for sure. Thanks for the update. |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 1:34:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MagnusActual: Interesting. I received a couple to test out. Failure under normal usage doesn't inspire confidence for sure. Thanks for the update. I didn't even use it normally. I was just dicking around with it in the livingroom prior to installing the light on the weapon. Maybe 50 clicks in. |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 3:36:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnDough: I didn't even use it normally. I was just dicking around with it in the livingroom prior to installing the light on the weapon. Maybe 50 clicks in. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnDough: Originally Posted By MagnusActual: Interesting. I received a couple to test out. Failure under normal usage doesn't inspire confidence for sure. Thanks for the update. I didn't even use it normally. I was just dicking around with it in the livingroom prior to installing the light on the weapon. Maybe 50 clicks in. Hopefully yours is the exception. Unity makes good stuff but duds can get by every now an again. |
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Posted: 2/26/2024 6:51:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MagnusActual: Hopefully yours is the exception. Unity makes good stuff but duds can get by every now an again. Yep. The only issues I've had with unity have been related to SF style plugs. Obviously they're new to making gascaps, but I guess its promising that the USB-C connection worked even though the button on the gascap didn't. I have a handful of gascaps now and I have yet to have any issues, if that helps. That being said, I use them with the axon and consider the button on it a backup. I'll give mine some reps and see if any have issues. Good news is, if there are issues with ANY switch, they tend to reveal themselves quickly. |
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Posted: 2/27/2024 9:35:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Marksman14: Yep. The only issues I've had with unity have been related to SF style plugs. Obviously they're new to making gascaps, but I guess its promising that the USB-C connection worked even though the button on the gascap didn't. I have a handful of gascaps now and I have yet to have any issues, if that helps. That being said, I use them with the axon and consider the button on it a backup. I'll give mine some reps and see if any have issues. Good news is, if there are issues with ANY switch, they tend to reveal themselves quickly. Yup. I've never had a mid bell-curve failure on a switch. Not to say it can't happen. |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 6:49:15 AM EDT
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My replacement Unity Tactical Gas Cap has arrived (the one I bought, not the one Unity sent, etc.). It has the same failure mode. I tested the Surefire clicky cap and had zero failures. This is solely the tailcap. I am discontinuing the use of the Unity product due to poor reliability and what I view as a design flaw leading to failure.
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Posted: 3/1/2024 10:32:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MagnusActual]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnDough: My replacement Unity Tactical Gas Cap has arrived (the one I bought, not the one Unity sent, etc.). It has the same failure mode. I tested the Surefire clicky cap and had zero failures. This is solely the tailcap. I am discontinuing the use of the Unity product due to poor reliability and what I view as a design flaw leading to failure. That sucks. What is and when exactly is it failing? Just manipulating the push button? Have your reached out to Unity direct about the failure? I know you got a return, but did you talk to them about the actual failure and if so, what was their response? I've been testing mine. Sample size of 3. Manipulating the button dozens of times, removing and replacing the plug, twisting on and off, different batteries, different bodies and whatnot, no issues so far. |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 10:52:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MagnusActual: That sucks. What is and when exactly is it failing? Just manipulating the push button? Have your reached out to Unity direct about the failure? I know you got a return, but did you talk to them about the actual failure and if so, what was their response? I've been testing mine. Sample size of 3. Manipulating the button dozens of times, removing and replacing the plug, twisting on and off, different batteries, different bodies and whatnot, no issues so far. I reached out to them. They were polite, helpful, and found it odd and wanted it back to see what went wrong. Unity has handled it very well, I just do not think this product is for me, though. Two identical failures when my Surefire cap is fine. I'll post a video of what's going on. |
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Posted: 3/2/2024 12:21:09 PM EDT
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Damn. Yeah I’ve gone through mine and cannot replicate what you’re seeing. But if you can get a video up that would help.
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Posted: 3/2/2024 7:52:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Marksman14: Damn. Yeah I’ve gone through mine and cannot replicate what you’re seeing. But if you can get a video up that would help.  Unity Gas Cap |
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