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Posted: 10/18/2023 5:32:47 PM EDT
Looks like an updated tail switch to mimic Surefire. Same stats as original HL-X. If the new cap fixed the flickering and kept the same price point it’d be a good cheap option.
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Posted: 10/19/2023 9:42:48 AM EDT
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Looks interesting, especially the 50k candelas output.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 10/19/2023 1:26:12 PM EDT
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If you're forced to still use Streamlight's crappy pressure switches, it's still a no-go for me
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Posted: 10/19/2023 1:27:13 PM EDT
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What's the release date for them?
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Posted: 10/19/2023 1:48:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJL0325: If you're forced to still use Streamlight's crappy pressure switches, it's still a no-go for me It looks like it uses a crane plug so you'll be able to use most switches on the market. |
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Posted: 10/19/2023 1:53:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yumago: It looks like it uses a crane plug so you'll be able to use most switches on the market. But man, I really wish the industry as a whole would get off the crane plug entirely, it's such a terrible design. |
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Posted: 10/20/2023 7:07:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D_Man: Yep, it was a smart move allowing use of modlight and unity switches. But man, I really wish the industry as a whole would get off the crane plug entirely, it's such a terrible design. Yeah it definitely has it's draw backs, being so dated, but it also is hard to make a new standard and have everyone get on board with it. Curious on how the Unity LINK system will turn out https://www.unitytactical.com/link-system/ |
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Posted: 10/20/2023 4:16:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Tomac]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By carholio: What's the release date for them? . Streamlight told me November. |
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Posted: 10/20/2023 5:51:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tomac: Streamlight told me November. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tomac: Originally Posted By carholio: What's the release date for them? . Streamlight told me November. Any chance they confirmed the Jack Cap working with Unity switches? I sent a email but nothing back yet. |
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Posted: 10/20/2023 6:08:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fiyero: Any chance they confirmed the Jack Cap working with Unity switches? I sent a email but nothing back yet. Sorry, all I asked about was the release date. |
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Posted: 10/20/2023 6:21:59 PM EDT
[#10]
Interested. It's time I get a dedicated rifle light. I have a a tlr-1 on my main rifle now.
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Posted: 10/20/2023 9:44:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tomac: Streamlight told me November. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tomac: Originally Posted By carholio: What's the release date for them? . Streamlight told me November. Thank you. |
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Posted: 10/20/2023 10:19:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By carholio: Thank you. You're welcome!  |
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Posted: 10/21/2023 12:33:30 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/21/2023 1:35:47 AM EDT
[#14]
The 2.0 is a different animal. 2000 lumen for one. Different from the new HL-X PRO coming out.
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MI, USA
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Posted: 10/21/2023 2:16:09 AM EDT
[#15]
About time. I was shocked when the 2.0 was a downgrade in candela. This looks like it’s still pretty chunky but hopefully it’s a good budget option.
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Posted: 10/21/2023 8:19:11 AM EDT
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Hopefully the new tail cap eliminated the flickering issue. The HL-X is a good light, but flickering when the rifle is fired is annoying and they all do it without an O ring.
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Posted: 10/21/2023 9:25:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheKurnal: The 2.0 is a different animal. 2000 lumen for one. Different from the new HL-X PRO coming out. The 2.0 is horrible and they should be embarrassed by it HL-X PRO looks good |
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Posted: 10/21/2023 2:33:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fiyero: Same stats as original HL-X. Original was 27,xxx candela, so almost doubled that. I only used HL-Xs without the remote switch (too many remote switch problems), so if they've upped their game there this could be a very nice entry to the field. Even if the remote switches still have problems at least this gives you a backup tailcap switch ala SF DS00 and the CD rein. |
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Posted: 10/22/2023 9:20:20 PM EDT
[#19]
If it really takes a Crane switch, this could be a pretty good budget option. IIRC, the current HLX is only $120 or so at the 'zon.
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Posted: 10/22/2023 9:31:18 PM EDT
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I’ve been told the Streamlight switches are similar to Crane but not compatible. Has that changed?
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Posted: 10/22/2023 9:48:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJL0325: If you're forced to still use Streamlight's crappy pressure switches, it's still a no-go for me i've upgrade my tape switch to a surefire ue using an arisaka tailcap adapter. there's an hl-x version as well. https://arisakadefense.com/tailcap-adapter-streamlight-protac-railmount-hl-x/ |
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Posted: 10/23/2023 11:01:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Fiyero]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ed_Victory: I’ve been told the Streamlight switches are similar to Crane but not compatible. Has that changed? Here’s the official answer from Streamlight when I asked about them being be compatible with the Unity Tactical switches. So I’ll definitely be picking up a few to play with now.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/23/2023 1:23:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fiyero: Here’s the official answer from Streamlight when I asked about them being be compatible with the Unity Tactical switches. So I’ll definitely be picking up a few to play with now. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/222364/IMG_3496_jpeg-3001406.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fiyero: Originally Posted By Ed_Victory: I’ve been told the Streamlight switches are similar to Crane but not compatible. Has that changed? Here’s the official answer from Streamlight when I asked about them being be compatible with the Unity Tactical switches. So I’ll definitely be picking up a few to play with now. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/222364/IMG_3496_jpeg-3001406.JPG That makes me more confused. Usually I hear crane referred to with regard to laser switches . . . |
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Posted: 10/23/2023 1:25:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By keeperofthedew: That makes me more confused. Usually I hear crane referred to with regard to laser switches . . . Yes, but all it is is a plug in style of electronic connection. It is mostly used on lasers, but doesn't mean it cant be used on flashlights. Streamlight isn't going to adopt their competitors plug style, not to mention that Cloud Defense has shown us it is a limiting factor anyways. |
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Posted: 10/23/2023 1:34:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By keeperofthedew: That makes me more confused. Usually I hear crane referred to with regard to laser switches . . . There's really no reason I'm aware of that it can't be used for flashlights. IIRC, Z-Bolt uses them. The reality is that the Surefire system kinda sucks in some ways, and the industry could use a new open standard based on USB-C. The UT Link system should have been it, but they kept it proprietary instead. |
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Posted: 10/23/2023 2:58:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By erwos: There's really no reason I'm aware of that it can't be used for flashlights. IIRC, Z-Bolt uses them. The reality is that the Surefire system kinda sucks in some ways, and the industry could use a new open standard based on USB-C. The UT Link system should have been it, but they kept it proprietary instead. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By erwos: Originally Posted By keeperofthedew: That makes me more confused. Usually I hear crane referred to with regard to laser switches . . . There's really no reason I'm aware of that it can't be used for flashlights. IIRC, Z-Bolt uses them. The reality is that the Surefire system kinda sucks in some ways, and the industry could use a new open standard based on USB-C. The UT Link system should have been it, but they kept it proprietary instead. As long as that's what they mean I don't have a problem with it, just was confused as to if that meant that same plug style or if there was a crane light spec that matched SF too. If not then that's probably better than SF d/t the aforementioned voltage issues with sf switches. |
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Posted: 10/23/2023 9:33:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fiyero: Here’s the official answer from Streamlight when I asked about them being be compatible with the Unity Tactical switches. So I’ll definitely be picking up a few to play with now. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/222364/IMG_3496_jpeg-3001406.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fiyero: Originally Posted By Ed_Victory: I’ve been told the Streamlight switches are similar to Crane but not compatible. Has that changed? Here’s the official answer from Streamlight when I asked about them being be compatible with the Unity Tactical switches. So I’ll definitely be picking up a few to play with now. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/222364/IMG_3496_jpeg-3001406.JPG Excellent!  Please let us know how it goes. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 12:12:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fiyero: Here's the official answer from Streamlight when I asked about them being be compatible with the Unity Tactical switches. So I'll definitely be picking up a few to play with now. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/222364/IMG_3496_jpeg-3001406.JPG Holy shit. The unity switches cost more than the light. Are the stream lights really that bad? |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 4:07:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheOldRepublic: Holy shit. The unity switches cost more than the light. Are the stream lights really that bad? No, but Unity stuff is really that expensive. |
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Posted: 10/31/2023 4:04:44 PM EDT
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I've preordered one from Amazon, will post first impressions here when it arrives.
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Posted: 10/31/2023 6:56:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tomac: I've preordered one from Amazon, will post first impressions here when it arrives. Nice. Hope it's all it looks to be. How much was it? . |
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Posted: 10/31/2023 7:11:23 PM EDT
[#32]
Neat
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Posted: 10/31/2023 8:35:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tomac: I've preordered one from Amazon, will post first impressions here when it arrives. Sweet you gave me the idea to do the same. $114 for the bare bones version then $70ish for Unity switch will make a legit sub $200 rifle light. |
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Posted: 10/31/2023 8:39:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Tomac]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By carholio: Nice. Hope it's all it looks to be. How much was it? . $135 w/remote switch, it's an experiment I can easily return if I'm not happy with it:  
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Posted: 11/1/2023 12:16:01 PM EDT
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I just found out it has an IP54 rating. I want more water resistance than a '4' on my WML's so I cancelled my preorder.
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Posted: 11/3/2023 10:11:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: -OdieGreen-]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tomac: I just found out it has an IP54 rating. I want more water resistance than a '4' on my WML's so I cancelled my preorder. It looks like their remote switch is the problem. The old HLX was a 7 with the tail cap and reduced to 4 with their pressure switch. Makes me wonder about the water ingress of aftermarket higher end switches as well as that’s rarely talked about. |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 12:56:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: carholio]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -OdieGreen-: It looks like their remote switch is the problem. The old HLX was a 7 with the tail cap and reduced to 4 with their pressure switch. Makes me wonder about the water ingress of aftermarket higher end switches as well as that’s rarely talked about. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -OdieGreen-: Originally Posted By Tomac: I just found out it has an IP54 rating. I want more water resistance than a '4' on my WML's so I cancelled my preorder. It looks like their remote switch is the problem. The old HLX was a 7 with the tail cap and reduced to 4 with their pressure switch. Makes me wonder about the water ingress of aftermarket higher end switches as well as that’s rarely talked about. Agree. Even the rail mount surefires are rated at 7 but when you use the remote switch it goes down to 4. I will need to check ipx ratings on othe remote switch options. I'll probably buy 1 of these eventually to give it a try. The surefire turbo is more than twice the price and even the non turbo scouts are $100 more. . |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 7:19:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -OdieGreen-: It looks like their remote switch is the problem. The old HLX was a 7 with the tail cap and reduced to 4 with their pressure switch. Makes me wonder about the water ingress of aftermarket higher end switches as well as that’s rarely talked about. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -OdieGreen-: Originally Posted By Tomac: I just found out it has an IP54 rating. I want more water resistance than a '4' on my WML's so I cancelled my preorder. It looks like their remote switch is the problem. The old HLX was a 7 with the tail cap and reduced to 4 with their pressure switch. Makes me wonder about the water ingress of aftermarket higher end switches as well as that’s rarely talked about. I’ve got an Axon SL Unity switch ordered for mine but not sure how much of a difference it’ll make. |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 7:19:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Fiyero]
[#39]
Weird dupe.
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Posted: 11/4/2023 11:26:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By carholio: Agree. Even the rail mount surefires are rated at 7 but when you use the remote switch it goes down to 4. I will need to check ipx ratings on othe remote switch options. I'll probably buy 1 of these eventually to give it a try. The surefire turbo is more than twice the price and even the non turbo scouts are $100 more. . Wow, didn’t expect that loss to apply to Surefire too. Guess I have a bit more appreciation for my REIN. |
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Posted: 11/5/2023 12:30:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -OdieGreen-: Wow, didn’t expect that loss to apply to Surefire too. Guess I have a bit more appreciation for my REIN. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -OdieGreen-: Originally Posted By carholio: Agree. Even the rail mount surefires are rated at 7 but when you use the remote switch it goes down to 4. I will need to check ipx ratings on othe remote switch options. I'll probably buy 1 of these eventually to give it a try. The surefire turbo is more than twice the price and even the non turbo scouts are $100 more. . Wow, didn’t expect that loss to apply to Surefire too. Guess I have a bit more appreciation for my REIN. My error. I meant the streamlight rail mount, not the surefire. Too many S.... light makers. LOL . |
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Posted: 11/5/2023 1:30:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By carholio: My error. I meant the streamlight rail mount, not the surefire. Too many S.... light makers. LOL . Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By carholio: Originally Posted By -OdieGreen-: Originally Posted By carholio: Agree. Even the rail mount surefires are rated at 7 but when you use the remote switch it goes down to 4. I will need to check ipx ratings on othe remote switch options. I'll probably buy 1 of these eventually to give it a try. The surefire turbo is more than twice the price and even the non turbo scouts are $100 more. . Wow, didn’t expect that loss to apply to Surefire too. Guess I have a bit more appreciation for my REIN. My error. I meant the streamlight rail mount, not the surefire. Too many S.... light makers. LOL . I tried plugging the Axon switch in my RM2 on my Scorpion and it was a no-go. The Streamlight plug has a O-ring (which is a plus I never noticed) and is a tad longer. So unless the Jack Cap is vastly different I don’t see them being compatible. However I’ve had thousands of rounds through my Scorpion with RM2 and never had a problem.  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/25/2023 8:50:51 AM EDT
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Okay, curiosity got the better of me and I caved, back on preorder!
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Posted: 11/25/2023 11:10:38 AM EDT
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Wonder if the caps will be backwards compatible. Have several protac2s that I'd upgrade.
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Posted: 11/25/2023 11:33:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gunnie357: Wonder if the caps will be backwards compatible. Have several protac2s that I'd upgrade. Protac 1 and 2 are narrower than the HLX series and use a different size cap. |
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Posted: 11/25/2023 11:54:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bluedog82: Protac 1 and 2 are narrower than the HLX series and use a different size cap. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bluedog82: Originally Posted By Gunnie357: Wonder if the caps will be backwards compatible. Have several protac2s that I'd upgrade. Protac 1 and 2 are narrower than the HLX series and use a different size cap. Thanks guess I need to bite the bullet and buy one |
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Posted: 11/25/2023 12:42:40 PM EDT
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Streamlight mentioned some great Cyber Mondays deals coming. Hoping this is involved.
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Posted: 11/25/2023 1:39:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By twpayne75: Streamlight mentioned some great Cyber Mondays deals coming. Hoping this is involved. Would those deals be via retailers? Thx! |
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Posted: 11/25/2023 4:25:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tomac: Would those deals be via retailers? Thx! Don't know. It was Streamlights Facebook page that announced it. If I see anything I'll post it here. After I order one for myself of course. 
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Posted: 11/25/2023 11:32:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By twpayne75: Don't know. It was Streamlights Facebook page that announced it. If I see anything I'll post it here. After I order one for myself of course. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By twpayne75: Originally Posted By Tomac:Would those deals be via retailers? Thx! Don't know. It was Streamlights Facebook page that announced it. If I see anything I'll post it here. After I order one for myself of course. I think it’s just some type giveaway celebrating their 50th anniversary unfortunately |
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