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Posted: 1/31/2018 1:28:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JSchell1309:
Dumb question, this OAL is measured with the flash hider removed (Unless pinned and welded) and with the brace in the "fully extended" position right? Or is it with bare buffer tube and no flash hider? SBR/Pistol laws are stupid as shit. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JSchell1309:
Originally Posted By krdt:
The OAL is a little over 27", so it's VFG time :D! SBR/Pistol laws are stupid as shit. |
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Posted: 1/31/2018 1:33:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mister_Donut: Do you guys clean your SF4P often or just let it cake up and clean it whenever you get around to it? The training can did this, can't imagine how bad it would get with a real can on it: https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ocaoRYfUdTg/WhpI7cVvpOI/AAAAAAAArNY/T_xpXDX279EEp1Zg9s_WwhEU5XRSCm5UACKgBGAs/s1600/PB252780.JPG |
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Posted: 1/31/2018 2:54:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By StevieJ309:
@krdt Did you order a tan GS mount? If you want to buy a gently used one I can pull it off the Scout I'm trying to sell. Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
That gives me an idea. I'm in need of a Scout light and since I'm going the KAC M4QD route.....I should throw this well loved SF4P of mine on the EE as a trade for a light. 
@krdt your whore CQBR called me again. She says she wants Stevie's mount. Happy wife happy life and all that.  |
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Posted: 1/31/2018 3:00:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt:
I really appreciate the offer; I think I'm going to at least wait and hear back from the place I backordered from. Actually, I found out something pretty interesting last night I wasn't aware of. Apparently, the X Series GS mounts are just Scout mounts with a rail section attached - which means you can order one of the X Series slim mounts and have a slim Scout mount :D. Brownells has them in FDE for $54 shipped. If I cancel my backorder, I'm thinking about going that route just to have a fancy slim GS mount. Thanks for the offer all the same. We all know CQBR gets what CQBR wants; it's almost like a wife, lol. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt:
Originally Posted By StevieJ309:
@krdt Did you order a tan GS mount? If you want to buy a gently used one I can pull it off the Scout I'm trying to sell. Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
That gives me an idea. I'm in need of a Scout light and since I'm going the KAC M4QD route.....I should throw this well loved SF4P of mine on the EE as a trade for a light.
@krdt your whore CQBR called me again. She says she wants Stevie's mount. Happy wife happy life and all that. And we all know what happens when you get your ass port gaped to .082" |
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Posted: 1/31/2018 3:04:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon:
Keep CLP/Fireclean/whatever you cleaning agent of choice on your muzzle devices and they won't cake up so bad - also a little easier to clean. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon:
Originally Posted By Mister_Donut:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556: Lots of carbon buildup thanks to stealthguy and his stupid Surefire can. https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ocaoRYfUdTg/WhpI7cVvpOI/AAAAAAAArNY/T_xpXDX279EEp1Zg9s_WwhEU5XRSCm5UACKgBGAs/s1600/PB252780.JPG |
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Posted: 1/31/2018 3:04:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JSchell1309:
Dumb question, this OAL is measured with the flash hider removed (Unless pinned and welded) and with the brace in the "fully extended" position right? Or is it with bare buffer tube and no flash hider? SBR/Pistol laws are stupid as shit. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JSchell1309:
Originally Posted By krdt:
The OAL is a little over 27", so it's VFG time :D! SBR/Pistol laws are stupid as shit. None of this shit has been clarified beyond knowing that 26" OAL allows the use of a VFG and that measuring from the RE to muzzle is the safest bet. Beyond that, it's all pretty speculative. If you want to see the "letter" the optimistic view is based on, see below. I personally hedge my bets and just measure from the RE until matters are clarified. 
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Posted: 1/31/2018 3:05:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
I want to say it's measured in it's shortest configuration. If unpinned, it's from the end of the barrel. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By JSchell1309:
Originally Posted By krdt:
The OAL is a little over 27", so it's VFG time :D! SBR/Pistol laws are stupid as shit. |
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Posted: 1/31/2018 3:08:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
That's not the mount she wanted. CQBR did not get what CQBR wants, and frankly she's pissed. She says if you don't get her what she wants she is going to let me gape her ass port to .082" And we all know what happens when you get your ass port gaped to .082" Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By krdt:
Originally Posted By StevieJ309:
@krdt Did you order a tan GS mount? If you want to buy a gently used one I can pull it off the Scout I'm trying to sell. Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
That gives me an idea. I'm in need of a Scout light and since I'm going the KAC M4QD route.....I should throw this well loved SF4P of mine on the EE as a trade for a light.
@krdt your whore CQBR called me again. She says she wants Stevie's mount. Happy wife happy life and all that. And we all know what happens when you get your ass port gaped to .082" |
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Posted: 1/31/2018 3:28:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt: A lady is allowed to change her mind. She said full size GS mounts might make her look fat and she needs one of the new slim mounts. I told her that's a bunch of crap and she's beautiful the way she is, but you know CQBRs :\. |
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Posted: 1/31/2018 3:57:35 PM EDT
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@StevieJ309 This ones actually not too bad at a closer look. I think I thought it was worse initially, because my last one was brand spanking new lol.
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Posted: 1/31/2018 4:06:22 PM EDT
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Sent you a PM.
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Posted: 1/31/2018 4:14:19 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StevieJ309:
Sent you a PM. 
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Posted: 1/31/2018 4:35:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MILSPEC556]
[#13]
@SecretSquirell (and everybody else)
Has anybody found a way to get shims for Surefire muzzle devices separately? I'm sure they're the same as any stainless shim but I need to track down how to get them separately (preferably Surefire if possible) |
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Posted: 1/31/2018 4:42:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
@SecretSquirell (and everybody else) Has anybody found a way to get shims for Surefire muzzle devices separately? I'm sure they're the same as any stainless shim but I need to track down how to get them separately (preferably Surefire if possible) |
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Posted: 1/31/2018 4:48:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JSchell1309: Dumb question, this OAL is measured with the flash hider removed (Unless pinned and welded) and with the brace in the "fully extended" position right? Or is it with bare buffer tube and no flash hider? SBR/Pistol laws are stupid as shit. |
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Posted: 1/31/2018 4:51:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MILSPEC556]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Grab one of these. They claim you only need the one shim. Been meaning to grab one but haven't had to install any brakes lately. Got the link from a friend and he said he's had good results. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
@SecretSquirell (and everybody else) Has anybody found a way to get shims for Surefire muzzle devices separately? I'm sure they're the same as any stainless shim but I need to track down how to get them separately (preferably Surefire if possible) 
Do you think a hardware store would carry the exact sized shims to Surefire's? Maybe an online hardware store? ETA disregard sir, we have the shim thing sorted now.
I do still need a crush washer for my BI CQBR tho. Still kind of pissed about that. I've never even heard of a crush washer snapping before. But you know, with my luck anythings possible |
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Posted: 1/31/2018 4:55:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Bruh, only DJT could afford that shim.
Do you think a hardware store would carry the exact sized shims to Surefire's? Maybe an online hardware store? |
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Posted: 1/31/2018 5:00:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Why not email Surefire? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Bruh, only DJT could afford that shim.
Do you think a hardware store would carry the exact sized shims to Surefire's? Maybe an online hardware store? |
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Posted: 1/31/2018 5:02:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
(trading the SF4P to StevieJ) he sent them the email but I just wanted to check the thread to see if anybody's had experience with it, just in case Surefire wants to be some pinners. |
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Posted: 1/31/2018 5:27:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt: There are two schools of thought on this: the conservative and optimistic. The conservative view is that OAL is measured from the end of the buffer tube/receiver extension to the end of the barrel minus muzzle device (unless it's permanently attached). The optimistic view holds that it's measured from the extreme end (counting the brace in other words) to the end of the barrel minus non-perm MD. The optimistic view is based on a questionable opinion "letter" (actually a screenshot of an email response) that states the measurement can include the brace. Assuming the optimistic view is correct, it would probably be measured with the brace in whatever position it happened to be in when a LEO was measuring - unless it happened to be one of the new adjustable braces. All of this is hinging on how rifles/SBRs are measured, so proceed at your own risk on the latter position. None of this shit has been clarified beyond knowing that 26" OAL allows the use of a VFG and that measuring from the RE to muzzle is the safest bet. Beyond that, it's all pretty speculative. If you want to see the "letter" the optimistic view is based on, see below. I personally hedge my bets and just measure from the RE until matters are clarified. https://s26.postimg.org/m87ubjmu1/37907849572_259b381b3c.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt: There are two schools of thought on this: the conservative and optimistic. The conservative view is that OAL is measured from the end of the buffer tube/receiver extension to the end of the barrel minus muzzle device (unless it's permanently attached). The optimistic view holds that it's measured from the extreme end (counting the brace in other words) to the end of the barrel minus non-perm MD. The optimistic view is based on a questionable opinion "letter" (actually a screenshot of an email response) that states the measurement can include the brace. Assuming the optimistic view is correct, it would probably be measured with the brace in whatever position it happened to be in when a LEO was measuring - unless it happened to be one of the new adjustable braces. All of this is hinging on how rifles/SBRs are measured, so proceed at your own risk on the latter position. None of this shit has been clarified beyond knowing that 26" OAL allows the use of a VFG and that measuring from the RE to muzzle is the safest bet. Beyond that, it's all pretty speculative. If you want to see the "letter" the optimistic view is based on, see below. I personally hedge my bets and just measure from the RE until matters are clarified. https://s26.postimg.org/m87ubjmu1/37907849572_259b381b3c.jpg So all that said, with the pistol tube you chose it is over 26" long to the bare muzzle? I may copy your setup with pistol tube, brace, and vert grip while I send in my SBR paperwork. Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
@SecretSquirell (and everybody else) Has anybody found a way to get shims for Surefire muzzle devices separately? I'm sure they're the same as any stainless shim but I need to track down how to get them separately (preferably Surefire if possible) |
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Posted: 1/31/2018 5:32:41 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JSchell1309:
Thanks for the thorough explanation. This is exactly how I thought it was, safest bet is bare buffer tube and bare muzzle. The muddy water ATF opinion letter that can change any moment bullshit is maybe with the brace at the position it is normally left at. So all that said, with the pistol tube you chose it is over 26" long to the bare muzzle? I may copy your setup with pistol tube, brace, and vert grip while I send in my SBR paperwork. If anyone else is ever wondering, give Surefire a call and tell them the model of the muzzle device you have. I simply told them I am swapping a few around on some builds and would prefer to use fresh washers. They consider them wear items and mail them out free of charge. They are good to go. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JSchell1309:
Originally Posted By krdt: There are two schools of thought on this: the conservative and optimistic. The conservative view is that OAL is measured from the end of the buffer tube/receiver extension to the end of the barrel minus muzzle device (unless it's permanently attached). The optimistic view holds that it's measured from the extreme end (counting the brace in other words) to the end of the barrel minus non-perm MD. The optimistic view is based on a questionable opinion "letter" (actually a screenshot of an email response) that states the measurement can include the brace. Assuming the optimistic view is correct, it would probably be measured with the brace in whatever position it happened to be in when a LEO was measuring - unless it happened to be one of the new adjustable braces. All of this is hinging on how rifles/SBRs are measured, so proceed at your own risk on the latter position. None of this shit has been clarified beyond knowing that 26" OAL allows the use of a VFG and that measuring from the RE to muzzle is the safest bet. Beyond that, it's all pretty speculative. If you want to see the "letter" the optimistic view is based on, see below. I personally hedge my bets and just measure from the RE until matters are clarified. https://s26.postimg.org/m87ubjmu1/37907849572_259b381b3c.jpg So all that said, with the pistol tube you chose it is over 26" long to the bare muzzle? I may copy your setup with pistol tube, brace, and vert grip while I send in my SBR paperwork. Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
@SecretSquirell (and everybody else) Has anybody found a way to get shims for Surefire muzzle devices separately? I'm sure they're the same as any stainless shim but I need to track down how to get them separately (preferably Surefire if possible) And you too Squirell 
(You have no idea how much trouble I have typing your username due to squirrel being spelled wrong)
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Posted: 1/31/2018 5:44:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/31/2018 5:52:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JSchell1309: Thanks for the thorough explanation. This is exactly how I thought it was, safest bet is bare buffer tube and bare muzzle. The muddy water ATF opinion letter that can change any moment bullshit is maybe with the brace at the position it is normally left at. So all that said, with the pistol tube you chose it is over 26" long to the bare muzzle? I may copy your setup with pistol tube, brace, and vert grip while I send in my SBR paperwork. |
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Posted: 1/31/2018 7:43:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Bruh, only DJT could afford that shim.
Do you think a hardware store would carry the exact sized shims to Surefire's? Maybe an online hardware store? ETA disregard sir, we have the shim thing sorted now.
I do still need a crush washer for my BI CQBR tho. Still kind of pissed about that. I've never even heard of a crush washer snapping before. But you know, with my luck anythings possible Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
@SecretSquirell (and everybody else) Has anybody found a way to get shims for Surefire muzzle devices separately? I'm sure they're the same as any stainless shim but I need to track down how to get them separately (preferably Surefire if possible)
Do you think a hardware store would carry the exact sized shims to Surefire's? Maybe an online hardware store? ETA disregard sir, we have the shim thing sorted now.
I do still need a crush washer for my BI CQBR tho. Still kind of pissed about that. I've never even heard of a crush washer snapping before. But you know, with my luck anythings possible
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Posted: 1/31/2018 7:45:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
(You have no idea how much trouble I have typing your username due to squirrel being spelled wrong)
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Posted: 1/31/2018 7:59:42 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
(trading the SF4P to StevieJ) he sent them the email but I just wanted to check the thread to see if anybody's had experience with it, just in case Surefire wants to be some pinners. 
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Posted: 1/31/2018 8:11:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StealthGuy:
I’m surprised you didn’t swap out your 3 prong with the 4 prong. What are you gay or sumthin? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StealthGuy:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
(trading the SF4P to StevieJ) he sent them the email but I just wanted to check the thread to see if anybody's had experience with it, just in case Surefire wants to be some pinners.
(So essentially you traded me a Colt 10.3 and a scout)
Squirell- when I @ tag you I literally have to go and find your posts like 3 times to get it right. I always start out with "squirrel" then "squirrell" then "sqirell" etc. Its fucked. But you're worth it baby. And yes crush washers are legal in Naziland.
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Posted: 1/31/2018 8:22:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
I'm going KAC M4QD for dat der short OAL bruh. Plus I was in dire need of a Scout light
(So essentially you traded me a Colt 10.3 and a scout)
Squirell- when I @ tag you I literally have to go and find your posts like 3 times to get it right. I always start out with "squirrel" then "squirrell" then "sqirell" etc. Its fucked. But you're worth it baby. And yes crush washers are legal in Naziland. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By StealthGuy:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
(trading the SF4P to StevieJ) he sent them the email but I just wanted to check the thread to see if anybody's had experience with it, just in case Surefire wants to be some pinners.
(So essentially you traded me a Colt 10.3 and a scout)
Squirell- when I @ tag you I literally have to go and find your posts like 3 times to get it right. I always start out with "squirrel" then "squirrell" then "sqirell" etc. Its fucked. But you're worth it baby. And yes crush washers are legal in Naziland.
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Posted: 1/31/2018 8:28:18 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Someone once made the comment that my name looked like "Squire II", so that's how I remember it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By StealthGuy:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
(trading the SF4P to StevieJ) he sent them the email but I just wanted to check the thread to see if anybody's had experience with it, just in case Surefire wants to be some pinners.
(So essentially you traded me a Colt 10.3 and a scout)
Squirell- when I @ tag you I literally have to go and find your posts like 3 times to get it right. I always start out with "squirrel" then "squirrell" then "sqirell" etc. Its fucked. But you're worth it baby. And yes crush washers are legal in Naziland. 
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Posted: 1/31/2018 8:35:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/31/2018 8:37:48 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
I was actually wondering if that was why you misspelled it. I don't even know what Tennesse Squire is but I remember it being in your Sig line for like, years or something. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By StealthGuy:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
(trading the SF4P to StevieJ) he sent them the email but I just wanted to check the thread to see if anybody's had experience with it, just in case Surefire wants to be some pinners.
(So essentially you traded me a Colt 10.3 and a scout)
Squirell- when I @ tag you I literally have to go and find your posts like 3 times to get it right. I always start out with "squirrel" then "squirrell" then "sqirell" etc. Its fucked. But you're worth it baby. And yes crush washers are legal in Naziland. |
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Posted: 1/31/2018 8:41:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 78Staff:
Is there a code to use, seems like the standard price when I load those urls... |
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Posted: 1/31/2018 8:54:36 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 78Staff:
Is there a code to use, seems like the standard price when I load those urls... |
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Posted: 1/31/2018 8:55:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JSchell1309: Thanks for the thorough explanation. This is exactly how I thought it was, safest bet is bare buffer tube and bare muzzle. The muddy water ATF opinion letter that can change any moment bullshit is maybe with the brace at the position it is normally left at. So all that said, with the pistol tube you chose it is over 26" long to the bare muzzle? I may copy your setup with pistol tube, brace, and vert grip while I send in my SBR paperwork. If anyone else is ever wondering, give Surefire a call and tell them the model of the muzzle device you have. I simply told them I am swapping a few around on some builds and would prefer to use fresh washers. They consider them wear items and mail them out free of charge. They are good to go. Couple of examples... MK18 with a 10.3" barrel and a COLT N1 Car Stock is well over 26" inches for the purposes of a Form 1 and the NFA as you measure fully extended. Here in Michigan it's under 26" OAL with the stock collapsed and Michigan wants the shortest configuration so you also have to register your Form 1 SBR has a pistol also. Plus side, if you SBR is undr 26" OAL you can conceal carry it under your CPL/CCW permit. Another, MK18 with an AFP pistol tube, well over 26" OAL and considered a "firearm" not a pistol to the Feds. Well if you toss a Law Tactical folding stock adapter on there it can fire at least one round folded so that would be it's shortest firing configuration here in Michigan, you gotta measure with it folded. Question I can't get a solid answer on from our State Police is if I build a pistol with with a Law Tactical folder that is over 26" OAL folded open, can I put a vertical grip on it as it does fire at least one round folded when it would be considered under 26" OAL... Stupid shit... |
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Posted: 1/31/2018 8:58:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider:
Email doesn’t say anything about a code. I hadn’t checked pricing in a while so it may not be really on sale. I did pay much higher last year on my barrel then what they are currently listed at. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider:
Originally Posted By 78Staff:
Is there a code to use, seems like the standard price when I load those urls... They did lower it to $150 with I think free shipping at one point during the holidays - Black Friday mostly likely. I only know because I have random urges to replace my Noveske 10.5 in the NQR Mod 0 with a 10.3. Thus far I always end up back at waiting until it needs replacing. |
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Posted: 1/31/2018 9:01:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
Just remember that this shit can vary state to state also. Here in Michigan they want shortest firing configuration for pistols and SBR's. Couple of examples... MK18 with a 10.3" barrel and a COLT N1 Car Stock is well over 26" inches for the purposes of a Form 1 and the NFA as you measure fully extended. Here in Michigan it's under 26" OAL with the stock collapsed and Michigan wants the shortest configuration so you also have to register your Form 1 SBR has a pistol also. Plus side, if you SBR is undr 26" OAL you can conceal carry it under your CPL/CCW permit. Another, MK18 with an AFP pistol tube, well over 26" OAL and considered a "firearm" not a pistol to the Feds. Well if you toss a Law Tactical folding stock adapter on there it can fire at least one round folded so that would be it's shortest firing configuration here in Michigan, you gotta measure with it folded. Question I can't get a solid answer on from our State Police is if I build a pistol with with a Law Tactical folder that is over 26" OAL folded open, can I put a vertical grip on it as it does fire at least one round folded when it would be considered under 26" OAL... Stupid shit... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
Originally Posted By JSchell1309: Thanks for the thorough explanation. This is exactly how I thought it was, safest bet is bare buffer tube and bare muzzle. The muddy water ATF opinion letter that can change any moment bullshit is maybe with the brace at the position it is normally left at. So all that said, with the pistol tube you chose it is over 26" long to the bare muzzle? I may copy your setup with pistol tube, brace, and vert grip while I send in my SBR paperwork. If anyone else is ever wondering, give Surefire a call and tell them the model of the muzzle device you have. I simply told them I am swapping a few around on some builds and would prefer to use fresh washers. They consider them wear items and mail them out free of charge. They are good to go. Couple of examples... MK18 with a 10.3" barrel and a COLT N1 Car Stock is well over 26" inches for the purposes of a Form 1 and the NFA as you measure fully extended. Here in Michigan it's under 26" OAL with the stock collapsed and Michigan wants the shortest configuration so you also have to register your Form 1 SBR has a pistol also. Plus side, if you SBR is undr 26" OAL you can conceal carry it under your CPL/CCW permit. Another, MK18 with an AFP pistol tube, well over 26" OAL and considered a "firearm" not a pistol to the Feds. Well if you toss a Law Tactical folding stock adapter on there it can fire at least one round folded so that would be it's shortest firing configuration here in Michigan, you gotta measure with it folded. Question I can't get a solid answer on from our State Police is if I build a pistol with with a Law Tactical folder that is over 26" OAL folded open, can I put a vertical grip on it as it does fire at least one round folded when it would be considered under 26" OAL... Stupid shit... 
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Posted: 1/31/2018 9:22:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
I'm going KAC M4QD for dat der short OAL bruh. Plus I was in dire need of a Scout light
(So essentially you traded me a Colt 10.3 and a scout)
Squirell- when I @ tag you I literally have to go and find your posts like 3 times to get it right. I always start out with "squirrel" then "squirrell" then "sqirell" etc. Its fucked. But you're worth it baby. And yes crush washers are legal in Naziland. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By StealthGuy:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
(trading the SF4P to StevieJ) he sent them the email but I just wanted to check the thread to see if anybody's had experience with it, just in case Surefire wants to be some pinners.
(So essentially you traded me a Colt 10.3 and a scout)
Squirell- when I @ tag you I literally have to go and find your posts like 3 times to get it right. I always start out with "squirrel" then "squirrell" then "sqirell" etc. Its fucked. But you're worth it baby. And yes crush washers are legal in Naziland. I assume it was the the tan M600? Did it come with the infamous GS mount? Are you trying to make my CQBR jealous? |
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Posted: 1/31/2018 9:55:17 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt:
You mean you're getting rid of that giant light emitting phallic object strapped to the front of your CQBR? :D I assume it was the the tan M600? Did it come with the infamous GS mount? Are you trying to make my CQBR jealous? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By StealthGuy:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
(trading the SF4P to StevieJ) he sent them the email but I just wanted to check the thread to see if anybody's had experience with it, just in case Surefire wants to be some pinners.
(So essentially you traded me a Colt 10.3 and a scout)
Squirell- when I @ tag you I literally have to go and find your posts like 3 times to get it right. I always start out with "squirrel" then "squirrell" then "sqirell" etc. Its fucked. But you're worth it baby. And yes crush washers are legal in Naziland. I assume it was the the tan M600? Did it come with the infamous GS mount? Are you trying to make my CQBR jealous? 
But yep its the tan M600. Not sure if it comes with the GS mount or the factory mount but honestly I'm ok with either one. I always use A.R.M.S. #17 mounts so this would be my first ever offset mount if it did. Any idea what tailcap I would need to plug a tape switch in her rump? |
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Posted: 1/31/2018 10:02:57 PM EDT
[#39]
It comes with the tan GS mount and the factory mount. I'm a generous guy like that.
The UE07 cap/switch is what you seek. |
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Posted: 1/31/2018 10:05:22 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StevieJ309:
It comes with the tan GS mount and the factory mount. I'm a generous guy like that.
The UE07 cap/switch is what you seek.
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Posted: 1/31/2018 10:45:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: krdt]
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Awesome thank you sir! On all accounts. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By StevieJ309:
It comes with the tan GS mount and the factory mount. I'm a generous guy like that.
The UE07 cap/switch is what you seek. Best deal on a UE-SR07-TN I could find was Optics Planet with a 10% coupon: https://www.opticsplanet.com/surefire-replacement-rear-cap-assembly.html I don't think they have a 10% coupon currently, but they run all the time. Not sure on the best deal for a UE07 - I just know Optics Planet and AU only have them in black for some reason. |
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Posted: 1/31/2018 10:55:03 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt:
Nice, you'll be set. Yep, you either want the UE07-TN or UE-SR07-TN. I like the UE-SR07 just because it gives you on/off switch functionality in addition to momentary - if that matters to you at all. Best deal on a UE-SR07-TN I could find was Optics Planet with a 10% coupon: https://www.opticsplanet.com/surefire-replacement-rear-cap-assembly.html I don't think they have a 10% coupon currently, but they run all the time. Not sure on the best deal for a UE07 - I just know Optics Planet and AU only have them in black for some reason. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By StevieJ309:
It comes with the tan GS mount and the factory mount. I'm a generous guy like that.
The UE07 cap/switch is what you seek. Best deal on a UE-SR07-TN I could find was Optics Planet with a 10% coupon: https://www.opticsplanet.com/surefire-replacement-rear-cap-assembly.html I don't think they have a 10% coupon currently, but they run all the time. Not sure on the best deal for a UE07 - I just know Optics Planet and AU only have them in black for some reason.
Looks like ill either be getting one used in the future or sticking with the clicky cap. I think the offset mount may help with click cap use ability for me tho. So we shall see when she arrives and I start messing with things.
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Posted: 1/31/2018 11:36:51 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Holy balls!
Looks like ill either be getting one used in the future or sticking with the clicky cap. I think the offset mount may help with click cap use ability for me tho. So we shall see when she arrives and I start messing with things. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By krdt:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By StevieJ309:
It comes with the tan GS mount and the factory mount. I'm a generous guy like that.
The UE07 cap/switch is what you seek. Best deal on a UE-SR07-TN I could find was Optics Planet with a 10% coupon: https://www.opticsplanet.com/surefire-replacement-rear-cap-assembly.html I don't think they have a 10% coupon currently, but they run all the time. Not sure on the best deal for a UE07 - I just know Optics Planet and AU only have them in black for some reason.
Looks like ill either be getting one used in the future or sticking with the clicky cap. I think the offset mount may help with click cap use ability for me tho. So we shall see when she arrives and I start messing with things. An offset mount really helps positioning and makes for a great setup when using the clicky with an M300 on the primary side. I think the M600 is a little long for that, but I'm sure you can find something workable. Probably have to mount it on the off side and just reach over the top to activate. The offset will definitely make that a lot easier. |
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Posted: 1/31/2018 11:40:57 PM EDT
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UE-Tn tail cap in stock now, use a coupon code to get it cheaper. Can usually find the pressure switch used on EE
https://www.opticsplanet.com/surefire-replacement-rear-cap-without-tape-switch.html |
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Posted: 1/31/2018 11:45:40 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By prodigy808:
UE-Tn tail cap in stock now, use a coupon code to get it cheaper. Can usually find the pressure switch used on EE https://www.opticsplanet.com/surefire-replacement-rear-cap-without-tape-switch.html Luckily I already have a couple SF pressure switches. - I take that back i think I have 1 left. I somehow broke the other one. How? I have no idea. Seems I always break the shit that nobody else does. Such as crush washers and pressure switches. Thanks bro
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Posted: 2/1/2018 1:50:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 78Staff]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Now that's what I'm talkin about. Even tan too. Luckily I already have a couple SF pressure switches. - I take that back i think I have 1 left. I somehow broke the other one. How? I have no idea. Seems I always break the shit that nobody else does. Such as crush washers and pressure switches. Thanks bro
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Posted: 2/1/2018 1:55:21 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 78Staff:
lol sounds like me - if I have only one gas pin, it's a sure bet I am going to mangle that f***er, but if I have 5 or 6, it'll run right in lickity split. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 78Staff:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Now that's what I'm talkin about. Even tan too. Luckily I already have a couple SF pressure switches. - I take that back i think I have 1 left. I somehow broke the other one. How? I have no idea. Seems I always break the shit that nobody else does. Such as crush washers and pressure switches. Thanks bro
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Posted: 2/1/2018 9:43:35 PM EDT
[#48]
A recent Configuration.. One of my 80% builds turned straight OCD. A lot of Kit bashing in this photo but I like it... Won't run like this unless I have to, she's heavy as all hell. An absolute pleasure to shoot! Upper: Colt Full Auto BCG w/ BCM Sopmod upgrade Colt AF Marked Upper Colt Teardrop PRI Gas buster w/ Combat latch Colt Delta Ring Assembly KAC RIS very early model Colt FSB KAC NT4 Flash Suppressor Colt 10.3" Government, W Stamped, .070"d Lower: Tactical Machining 80% Colt Engraved. Hardcoat Anodized Type III, Denver Metal Finishing Colt M16A1 Grip (C-marked. I hate the M4A1 bump.) Colt Ambi Selector. Geissele SSA Trigger Colt 4-Pos Stock Colt H2 buffer Colt Carbine Spring Colt N1 Stock w/ a LMT Gen 1 in the wings CQD Rear Sling Mount Colt lower small parts. Hope I didn't forget anything. Here's another photo of it as it usually sits... 
Accessories: SU-237, SU-233, PEQ-15, Tango Down QD, EOTech 551, LMT Rear Buis, KAC 300m buis. |
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Posted: 2/2/2018 9:14:37 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Someone once made the comment that my name looked like "Squire II", so that's how I remember it. |
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Posted: 2/2/2018 9:31:35 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnySasaki20:
Wow. I've always read it as "Secret Squirrel" Never actually read it until now. My life is a lie... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnySasaki20:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Someone once made the comment that my name looked like "Squire II", so that's how I remember it.
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