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What are the markings on bottom of the MaTech marked with the Picitinny gates logo?
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Pretty sure they are both legit. Here a dozen or so years ago Matech started laser engraving Picatinny Arsenal's gates on them. I never saw those ones on a Gov weapon, but I retired in 2012, so maybe they came around after I was gone.
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Originally Posted By ssimo: 8gu83 View Quote I haven't seen that CAGE marking. (8GU83 / EQUALITY OHIO EDUCATION FUND) I've only found the Picitinny marked on commercial guns. The 2 CAGE markings that I've found on issued MaTechs are: OGU83 / manufactured by Matech 3DB52 / manufactured by Design West Technologies. Post a pic? Edit: Matech example: Attached File |
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Can't never could 'til try came along.
"All welchers should be removed from the EE".-Aimless |
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Originally Posted By TGWLDR: I haven't seen that CAGE marking. (8GU83 / EQUALITY OHIO EDUCATION FUND) I've only found the Picitinny marked on commercial guns. The 2 CAGE markings that I've found on issued MaTechs are: OGU83 / manufactured by Matech 3DB52 / manufactured by Design West Technologies. Post a pic? Edit: Matech example: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/416992/Screenshot_20211128-173055_Gallery_jpg-2-3169740.JPG View Quote Exactly, 8gu83. That said, i am not concerned about the authenticity of the picatinny marked one, I ordered it from brownells, i am concerned about the one mounted on the rifle in the pics |
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The only reason why I'd doubt that it was fake is because bootlegging a MaTech is like bootlegging Geo Metro.
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Originally Posted By deadmau5er: The only reason why I'd doubt that it was fake is because bootlegging a MaTech is like bootlegging Geo Metro. View Quote https://airsoft.tiger111hk.com/product_info.php?products_id=4050&language=en¤cy=RUB&languag= |
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Can't never could 'til try came along.
"All welchers should be removed from the EE".-Aimless |
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Originally Posted By ssimo: Exactly, 8gu83. That said, i am not concerned about the authenticity of the picatinny marked one, I ordered it from brownells, i am concerned about the one mounted on the rifle in the pics View Quote What's the older one marked with? No pics of said RAS so hard to guess. But yes, there were changes. |
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Can't never could 'til try came along.
"All welchers should be removed from the EE".-Aimless |
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Originally Posted By TGWLDR: https://airsoft.tiger111hk.com/product_info.php?products_id=4050&language=en¤cy=RUB&languag= View Quote I retract my statement. Forgot about airsoft. |
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Originally Posted By TGWLDR: What's the older one marked with? No pics of said RAS so hard to guess. But yes, there were changes. View Quote Thanks! As soon as i get home, i will check! I tried to not un'install it to avoid having to reloctite it. Which kind of changes are you aware of about the KAC RAS in the last 10 years or so? |
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Originally Posted By ssimo: Why this would be the "only" reason? Does it seem fake to you? View Quote I just figured they'd make more money from duping KACs or something but TGWLDR is right. I couldn't tell you, I only had 2 and I don't see anything suspicious about yours but I'm far from an expert on IDing legit MaTechs. I can take some pics of mine later. |
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Originally Posted By ssimo: Thanks! As soon as i get home, i will check! I tried to not un'install it to avoid having to reloctite it. Which kind of changes are you aware of about the KAC RAS in the last 10 years or so? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ssimo: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: What's the older one marked with? No pics of said RAS so hard to guess. But yes, there were changes. Thanks! As soon as i get home, i will check! I tried to not un'install it to avoid having to reloctite it. Which kind of changes are you aware of about the KAC RAS in the last 10 years or so? I don't recall if they fall inside the 10 year window, but interior markings and top screw type. (Hex vs slotted). |
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Can't never could 'til try came along.
"All welchers should be removed from the EE".-Aimless |
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Originally Posted By ssimo: Thanks for the answers man. I can't tell you what the markings are below the mounted matech buis cause I embarassingly lost my collection of american size hexkeys so i am unable to uninstall it rn! But i am sure it had a number underneath, what is your opinion based on the informations you have now? Here is the KAC RAS, so is this the current production model i can find on brownells or it had some modifications? https://i.imgur.com/yRvKxrd.jpeg @TGWLDR View Quote Patent # checks out, what little is visible appears legit. |
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Can't never could 'til try came along.
"All welchers should be removed from the EE".-Aimless |
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Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Patent # checks out, what little is visible appears legit. View Quote Yes i know the ras is legit, I was just wondering if there were changes from this model to the current ones. And so also the buis seems to be legit? Aperture size changed during the years or between the military and the civilian model? |
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Originally Posted By ssimo: Yes i know the ras is legit, I was just wondering if there were changes from this model to the current ones. Covered in post #13 above. And so also the buis seems to be legit? Aperture size changed during the years or between the military and the civilian model? Out of 8 or 10 that I own/have owned, all aperature openings have been the same diameter,I have only owned 1 Picitinny marked version. View Quote |
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Can't never could 'til try came along.
"All welchers should be removed from the EE".-Aimless |
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Here's the other contracted BUIS from 3DB52 /manufactured by Design West Technologies.
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This got me checking what I have on hand on shelf and on 2 uppers in shop. @TGWLDR
2 ea OGU83 MaTech (1 NIW) 2 ea 3DB52 DWT 4ea NIB (2022) Box is marked OGU83 but inside bag is a third contractor 5WRH4-JBL Systems Solutions, LLC Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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If it breaks when you tighten it and the sight pops up under recoil, it’s real.
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: This got me checking what I have on hand on shelf and on 2 uppers in shop. @TGWLDR 2 ea OGU83 MaTech (1 NIW) 2 ea 3DB52 DWT 4ea NIB (2022) Box is marked OGU83 but inside bag is a third contractor 5WRH4-JBL Systems Solutions, LLC https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_9186_jpeg-3180826.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_9185_jpeg-3180827.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_9188_jpeg-3180832.JPG View Quote Thank you sir. |
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"All welchers should be removed from the EE".-Aimless R.I.P. to the EE |
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One on the left looks too short to be a poptech.
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Originally Posted By ssimo: Exactly, 8gu83. That said, i am not concerned about the authenticity of the picatinny marked one, I ordered it from brownells, i am concerned about the one mounted on the rifle in the pics View Quote OP - by any chance is the first ‘8’ actually a ‘0’ on the cage code for the Brownell’s purchased sight? Have you removed the sight mounted on the rifle to check its cage code? Photos of the bottom of both would be helpful. |
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