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Posted: 3/17/2024 11:47:40 PM EDT
I thought some of you would be interested in this upcoming product I stumbled across looking at deltathirtyfour's Instagram story. This looks like a much more durable and viable solution than PA's own. (I am not affiliated with anyone mentioned in any way.)
HEROMOD 5x micro prism TOP DOT MOUNT |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/18/2024 12:23:17 AM EDT
[#1]
Anyone know of the total ACTUAL weights of this system?
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Posted: 3/18/2024 1:00:43 AM EDT
[#2]
I might get one just because of this. Well done.
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USA
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Posted: 3/18/2024 3:58:32 AM EDT
[#3]
They need to make one for the PA 2X and TA33 ACOG.
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NV, USA
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Posted: 3/18/2024 6:46:06 AM EDT
[#4]
Picture; looks promising:
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Posted: 3/18/2024 7:10:54 AM EDT
[#5]
I like the looks of this
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Posted: 3/18/2024 9:32:05 AM EDT
[#6]
I like that a lot. Hopefully they can come up with a solution for the 3x.
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UT, USA
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Posted: 3/18/2024 9:37:04 AM EDT
[#7]
Way better than that abortion PA came up with.
PA’s version might just be the worst designed product they have ever brought to market. PA must’ve had a “let’s let our Chinese friends design something day”. |
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Posted: 3/18/2024 9:37:51 AM EDT
[#8]
Thanks for the post OP. Definitely interested.
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USA
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Posted: 3/18/2024 1:43:31 PM EDT
[#9]
i wish it wasn't so tall. but it is neat that you can offset it if you want.
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Posted: 3/18/2024 3:24:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Caeser2001: They need to make one for the PA 2X and TA33 ACOG. There already is (was) an OEM ring mount RMR solution for the TA33. RM36 IIRC. |
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Posted: 3/18/2024 3:43:43 PM EDT
[#11]
That looks really good. One of the pics on their website shows that it cover a small part of the elevation adjustment slot. Anything to be concerned with that?
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MI, USA
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Posted: 3/18/2024 3:46:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yojimbo: That looks really good. One of the pics on their website shows that it cover a small part of the elevation adjustment slot. Anything to be concerned with that? I wouldn’t think so as long as the screw is useable. |
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USA
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Posted: 3/18/2024 5:14:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yojimbo: That looks really good. One of the pics on their website shows that it cover a small part of the elevation adjustment slot. Anything to be concerned with that? I mean, I didn't dial much with the pa 5x when I had it. I'd say that while the dial does look usable still in those photos to me, if I had a hard time I'd just consider it part of my setup to zero the micro 5x and then add and zero the red dot. I've been anticipating a product like this for quite some time, pleased to see someone has done it. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 3/18/2024 9:52:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shackleford_R: i wish it wasn't so tall. but it is neat that you can offset it if you want. Nope. It (wisely) has anti-rotation tabs. |
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Posted: 3/18/2024 11:27:51 PM EDT
[#15]
Looks pretty good. The factory design sucks
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Posted: 3/18/2024 11:36:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: -OdieGreen-]
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doty_soty: There already is (was) an OEM ring mount RMR solution for the TA33. RM36 IIRC. The RM36 only works on old models that don’t have the mounting bosses unfortunately. Hilariously, Trijicon makes more of these than they do RM54’s. Whoever supervises their small part production has been asleep at the wheel. |
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USA
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Posted: 3/19/2024 1:26:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ex_Sanguine_Nation: Nope. It (wisely) has anti-rotation tabs. is that a problem people have had with scope tube red dot mounts? |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 3/19/2024 5:58:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Joedirt199]
[#18]
The tabs would help for the occasional bump or drop on the reddot and maintaining zero. The PA version just isn't strong enough to protect against bumps to the reddot. It also rests on the elevation mound to help support the rear of the optic mount. Very well done.
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MI, USA
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Posted: 3/19/2024 3:07:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shackleford_R: is that a problem people have had with scope tube red dot mounts? Not that I am aware of, specifically, but it's always a possibility. I would welcome any type of anti-rotation on those, as well, but they are less standardized. Honestly, I use top-ring mounts as much as I can in this application as I don't like the thought of that force (smacking the dot on something/falling over/etc.) being transferred to the scope body. I'd much rather it be directed into the mount. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 3/19/2024 4:09:50 PM EDT
[#20]
That one for the 3x please
and a pic rail version |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 3/19/2024 4:16:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Baq: That one for the 3x please and a pic rail version That's going to be trickier. There's a lot less meat on the front of the 3x than the 5x. Maybe they can come up with something that clamps to a killflash, or similar. Honestly, for the 5x, a killflash that incorporates an overlapping collar that tightens down against the mount ring would be interesting. That was it is braced against being popped off the front of the optic by a blow. |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 4:38:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: gont]
[#22]
IMO it would be much better if it was cantilevered slightly forward in order to lower it. It looks a bit higher than it needs to be.
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MN, USA
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Posted: 3/19/2024 4:58:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gont: IMO it would be much better if it was cantilevered slightly forward in order to lower it. It looks a bit higher than it needs to be. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/13827/IMG_6328_jpg-3163780.JPG Late again to the party, am I. You beat me too it, it sits too high. If they slid it forward so it could drop down it would be near perfect, IMO |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 6:14:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -OdieGreen-: I might get one just because of this. Well done. I was just thinking the same thing 
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USA
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Posted: 3/19/2024 10:35:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By s4s4u: Late again to the party, am I. You beat me too it, it sits too high. If they slid it forward so it could drop down it would be near perfect, IMO If I had to guess they were trying to not have it hang too far off the front. With the 5× micro it either hangs really far off the front, over the elevation screw+high, or some middle ground. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 3/19/2024 11:02:17 PM EDT
[#26]
I already have the PA mount. No reason to have to zero everything again
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USA
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Posted: 3/20/2024 2:27:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RangeToy: I already have the PA mount. No reason to have to zero everything again until you breathe too hard on it 
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NV, USA
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Posted: 3/20/2024 4:30:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: spydercomonkey]
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gont: IMO it would be much better if it was cantilevered slightly forward in order to lower it. It looks a bit higher than it needs to be. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/13827/IMG_6328_jpg-3163780.JPG Completely agree. A wise gun entrepreneur will probably offer that in the future. Unless the RDS sitting on the adjustment screw is key to the anti rotation? |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 3/20/2024 6:58:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: Completely agree. A wise gun entrepreneur will probably offer that in the future. Unless the RDS sitting on the adjustment screw is key to the anti rotation? There's always a way. The questions are: is the shop capable of the manufacturing it, and will it arrive at a cost that is agreeable to the consumer? |
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USA
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Posted: 3/21/2024 10:25:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Caeser2001]
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doty_soty: There already is (was) an OEM ring mount RMR solution for the TA33. RM36 IIRC. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doty_soty: Originally Posted By Caeser2001: They need to make one for the PA 2X and TA33 ACOG. There already is (was) an OEM ring mount RMR solution for the TA33. RM36 IIRC. RM36 is for the rear bosses, not the front. |
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Posted: 3/21/2024 3:01:38 PM EDT
[#31]
I like that
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MN, USA
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Posted: 3/21/2024 7:05:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NewWind: If I had to guess they were trying to not have it hang too far off the front. With the 5× micro it either hangs really far off the front, over the elevation screw+high, or some middle ground. I would gladly take a little overhang in front if it would lower the total package that 1/4". But, good effort for the most part. I just won't be buying one. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 3/21/2024 7:08:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: s4s4u]
[#33]
PA kinda failed at the origins, not realizing that there would be a desire to have a piggyback rds. They just went for the smallest and lightest package they could and once again they fall short.
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USA
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Posted: 3/21/2024 8:09:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By s4s4u: PA kinda failed at the origins, not realizing that there would be a desire to have a piggyback rds. They just went for the smallest and lightest package they could and once again they fall short. They should have realized it was a desired feature when the majority of people in the “what do you want to see from pa” thread said do a piggy back mount If it was slightly bigger with top mount it would be great. Doesn’t need to be a micro imo. Just better than the original Hopefully they do that in the future |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 3/21/2024 10:59:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chenzo: They should have realized it was a desired feature when the majority of people in the “what do you want to see from pa” thread said do a piggy back mount If it was slightly bigger with top mount it would be great. Doesn’t need to be a micro imo. Just better than the original Hopefully they do that in the future One thing I have figured out is that PA doesn't much care what the masses want. There is someone at the top who makes the calls and that person seems a bit bias and set in their ways  |
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Posted: 3/21/2024 11:25:13 PM EDT
[#36]
Looks promising
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Posted: 3/22/2024 1:32:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By s4s4u: One thing I have figured out is that PA doesn't much care what the masses want. There is someone at the top who makes the calls and that person seems a bit bias and set in their ways I remember them saying FDE doesn’t sell at one point. Then I had to buy their FDE prisms from AKOU because PA couldn’t keep them in stock. Their peanut butter pickle LPVO stays sold out. And there’s still never been any other FDE LPVO’s. |
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Posted: 3/22/2024 11:05:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By s4s4u: One thing I have figured out is that PA doesn't much care what the masses want. There is someone at the top who makes the calls and that person seems a bit bias and set in their ways Agreed. Only offering the ACSS reticle for example. They would greatly increase sales if they offered another option. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 3/22/2024 11:48:05 AM EDT
[#39]
I reached out and they said they plan to look into doing one for the 3x in the future, but for now are focusing on getting this one out.
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USA
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Posted: 3/22/2024 3:31:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By s4s4u: One thing I have figured out is that PA doesn't much care what the masses want. There is someone at the top who makes the calls and that person seems a bit bias and set in their ways Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By s4s4u: Originally Posted By Chenzo: They should have realized it was a desired feature when the majority of people in the “what do you want to see from pa” thread said do a piggy back mount If it was slightly bigger with top mount it would be great. Doesn’t need to be a micro imo. Just better than the original Hopefully they do that in the future One thing I have figured out is that PA doesn't much care what the masses want. There is someone at the top who makes the calls and that person seems a bit bias and set in their ways Agreed. Someone there is also obsessed with FOV at the expense of eye box and trying to recreate the TA31 instead of a smaller TA11 or better TA33. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 3/22/2024 9:26:20 PM EDT
[#41]
I'm doing a little futzing around with this:
   ... over at the 3x thread. |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 2:23:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ex_Sanguine_Nation: I'm doing a little futzing around with this: https://i.imgur.com/9l41f7P.jpg https://i.imgur.com/CZgjCW7.jpg https://i.imgur.com/v62JB7r.jpg ... over at the 3x thread. |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 5:50:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Daggertt: Where's the 3x thread? https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/Primary-Arms-SLX-3X-Microprism/18-765865/&page=21 |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 8:40:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HighpowerRifleBrony: https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/Primary-Arms-SLX-3X-Microprism/18-765865/&page=21 @Ex_Sanguine_Nation do you have any photos looking through the optic? |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 3/23/2024 9:24:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Ex_Sanguine_Nation]
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Daggertt: Cool thanks. @Ex_Sanguine_Nation do you have any photos looking through the optic? Not yet but if you want I will. Look through your optic. Looks just like that. No occlusions. ETA: 
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Posted: 3/23/2024 9:39:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ex_Sanguine_Nation: I'm doing a little futzing around with this: https://i.imgur.com/9l41f7P.jpg https://i.imgur.com/CZgjCW7.jpg https://i.imgur.com/v62JB7r.jpg ... over at the 3x thread. That's a neat solution. I hope it works well for you. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 3/23/2024 9:52:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PacNW5: That's a neat solution. I hope it works well for you. Thanks. I don't know that I'm leaving it. Just exploring and sharing options. Truth be told though... I don't hate it. |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 10:28:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ex_Sanguine_Nation: Thanks. I don't know that I'm leaving it. Just exploring and sharing options. Truth be told though... I don't hate it.  |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 3/23/2024 10:43:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Daggertt: Functionally similar to the leupold devo but much less stupid looking and snag-prone. https://soldiersystems.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/T1-DEVO-Combo.jpg Fair point! I remember when those came out. I liked the concept, but not so much the execution or, probably more likely, the price
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USA
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Posted: 3/23/2024 12:41:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ex_Sanguine_Nation: I'm doing a little futzing around with this: https://i.imgur.com/9l41f7P.jpg https://i.imgur.com/CZgjCW7.jpg https://i.imgur.com/v62JB7r.jpg ... over at the 3x thread. I like your ingenuity and thonking outside the box. |
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