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Posted: 11/29/2019 10:53:48 PM EDT
Safety w/hole 1959-1964
Safety 1965-1982 Front Takedown Pin- w/ hole 1959-1964 Rear Takedown Pin- w/hole 1950-1964 Front Takedown Pin- w/o hole 1964-Current Rear Takedown Pin- w/o hole 1964-Current Mag Catch with small hole 1959-1964 Mag Catch 1964-Current Mag Catch Button- Lined Pattern 1959-1962?? Mag Catch Button- Circular pattern 1963-2008 Bolt Stop- Early Lined Flat End 1959-1963 Bolt Stop- Mid Transitional- Lined Lower Part 1964-1965 Bolt Stop- Late 1964-Current Stock Group- Shorty Collapsible Stock 1967-197??? Buffer Spring- Shorty 1967-Current Buffer- Shorty Red Plastic End 1967-1982 Buffer Tube- 2 position 1967-1982 Locking Ring w/ 1 hole 1967-1982 Locking Ring Plate 1967-Current Stock Group- Rifle Buttstock Ass'y w/o butt trap- Type "A" 1959- Brown Painted Green 1st- 100 produced Buttstock Ass'y w/o butt trap- Type "B" 1959-1962 Green Painted Buttstock Ass'y w/o butt trap- Type "C" 1963- Early 1964 Metal Sling Swivel Buttstock Ass'y w/o butt trap- Type "D" Early 1964-1969 A1 Buttstock w/ Trap 1969-1982 Buffer- Early Edgewater 1963-Used until 12/66 Buffer- Standard 1967-1982 Buffer Tube- with hole 1959-1966 Buffer Tube- Standard 1967-1982 Stock Screw 1963-1966 Stock Screw with drain hole 1967-1982 Pistol Grip- Green 1959- Brown Painted Green 1st- 100 produced Pistol Grip- Brown 1959-1962 Pistol Grip- Mottled 1963-1964 Pistol Grip A1 1965-1982 Pistol Grip Screw & Washer 1959-1982 Upper Receiver Ass'y A1 Upper Receiver w/o FA 1959-1970 A1 Upper Receiver w/Fwd Asst 1964-1982 Tear-Drop F/A 1964-1982 A1 Ejection Port Cover Early Square- 1959-Dropped in 1964 A1 Ejection Port Cover Rectangle 1964-1982 Charging Handle Triangle- AF only 1959-1964 Replaced 1964 Charging Handle 1964-Current Bolt Group M16 Bolt Carrier- Chromed- Slabside 1959-1966 M16 Bolt Carrier Parked- Slabside 1965-1967 M16 Bolt Carrier- Chromed Serrated 1964-1966 M16 Bolt Carrier- Serated Parked "C" marked 1967-1995 Bolts- Complete- Chromed 1959-1966 Bolts- Complete- Parkerized 1966-Current Bolt Cam Pin Chromed 1959-1966 Bolt Cam Pin- Parkerized 1966-Current Bolt Carrier Key Chromed 1959-1966 Bolt Carrier Key- Parkerized 1967-2008 Firing Pins- Old Style 1959-1962 Firing Pin- Current 1963-Current Firing Pin Retaining Pins- Chromed 1959-1965 Firing Pin Retaining Pins 1966-2008 Barrel Group Barrel "W" marked 1-14 twist 1959-1962 Barrel "M VP" "12" marked 1963-1965 Barrel "MP" "12" marked 1965-1966 Barrel "C" marked Oct 1967-1969 Barrel "C MP C" marked 1969-1971 Barrel "C MP B" marked 1971-1973 Barrel C MP Chrome Bore" marked 1974-1982 Front Sight Base- Cast 1959-1963 Front Sight Base- Forged 1964-1966 Flashing Machined Front Sight Base- Forged with Drain Hole 1967-1982 Flashing Machined Front Sight Base- Forged with Drain Hole 1969-1982 Bell & "C" Marked Gas Tube Standard- Steel 1959-1963?? Gas Tube Standard- Stainless Steel 1964-200??? A1 Handguards- Shiney 1963-1965 A1 Handguards- Dull 1966-1982 Gas Tube Shorty 1967- 2008 A1/A2 Shorty Handguard 1967-199??? A1 11.5" Barrels- Standard 1967-1982 Bayonet Lug Ground Off A1 Slip Ring Smooth 1963-1974 A2 Slip Ring Delta 1969-1982 Duckbill Flash Hider 1959-1963 3- Prong Flash Hider 1963-part of1967 A1 Flash Hider part of 1967-1982 A1 Lock Washer 1959-1982 Lower Receivers 601 Mfg'd 1959-1963 Flatside 602- Mfg'd 1963 - 1964 Majority to AF Flatside 603/E1 Mfg'd 1964 - 1967 XM16E1 Lower 603/A1 Mfg'd 1967 - 1982 A1 Lower 604 Mfg'd 1964 - 1967, 1970 XM16E1 Lower XM177E2 Mfg'd 1967-1970 A1 Lower 651/652 Mfg'd 1970-1974? A1 Lower 653/653 No F/A 1971 - 1984 |
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Posted: 11/30/2019 12:00:25 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/30/2019 1:34:17 AM EDT
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Tagagge
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Posted: 11/30/2019 8:57:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: m1sniper]
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There are a few mistakes and omissions that were never corrected when this "guide" was created. And some of the info was supposition, not fact based.
But overall not too bad a guide. Scale between 1 and 10, 10 being great, I never gave this guide more then a 6. Just my 2 pennies and worth whatcha paid. |
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Posted: 11/30/2019 9:20:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m1sniper:
There are a few mistakes and omissions that were never corrected when this "guide" was created. And some of the info was supposition, not fact based. But overall not too bad a guide. Scale between 1 and 10, 10 being great, I never gave this guide more then a 6. Just my 2 pennies and worth whatcha paid. |
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Posted: 11/30/2019 9:43:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: m1sniper]
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Busy today, but here are a few:
No mention of vp (only) marked 1/14 barrels,,, late 601s ( vp 12 barrels may also be found on 601s as replacements when it was determined that the 1/14 barrels were not up to snuff) No mention of vp (only) marked 1/12 barrels,,, early 602s (these have a small 12 stamped at the 6 o'clock position on the barrel about and inch or so behind the FH.) No evidence that MP barrels were made in 1965, but plenty showing 66 and 67 based on deep research done by former member willp and others here..(PS, this was also a transitional period when the FSB received the drain hole under the front sight pin)( and also the transition of forge flash remaining or being removed on the FSB) Green type C stocks??? Type C stocks were the 1st to be dye impregnated black..., Type B stocks started as brown fiberglass just like the type A stocks then were painted either green or black depending on who the end user was. In some cases B were painted green 1st, then factory painted black. The 1 I had was black over brown. My HG set was factory green over brown, then factory painted black. (overspray went behind the heat shields indicating done at Colt before the shields were installed.) A few members have these. Same with PGs, some were black over green, some were black over brown No mention of the early "full circle, or many circle" (however you want to refer to it) mag release buttons as opposed to the later "circular" buttons. And to get more technical, there are 2 versions. Both versions have 5 ribs above and below the hole, and 2 full ribs and to the left and right of the hole. One version, if you use a magnifying glass, the ribs are straight up and down (same thickness at the top and down at the bottom, the 2nd version, each rib "tapers" out slightly as it goes down. So there is a start. 
ETA, IIRC one of our members found written info in a GI manual dated 1966 that stated something to the effect that early bend carbon steel gas tubes are now to be replaced with stainless steel (early bend) gas tubes. So early carbons were likely used up to 1966, and again IIRC, willp also found this info by inspecting real deal actual military rifles. Even tho early bend stainless tubes seem to be plentiful, they had the shortest life span. ETA2: the date line for dimpled pins (referred to above as with holes and without holes) and mag release lever may be incorrect. We all assumed (including me) back when this guide was posted, that early rifles all had dimples. However a member who has been able to go thru many dozens if not hundreds of demills finds dimpled pins on later rifles then listed above, not so much on early ones.. |
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Posted: 11/30/2019 9:47:29 AM EDT
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Thank you for the corrections
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Posted: 11/30/2019 10:51:34 AM EDT
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BTW, I need to add this. I am in NO way, shape, or form "bashing" the original guide above. The member or members who worked on it made a valiant effort. Some info in the guide was what was known back then and new info surfaced. Some of it was known and maybe just "overlooked". But like most all reference books ever done, there are always mistakes or cases of new info surfacing that need to be added or deleted.
Kudos to the author of the guide.
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Posted: 11/30/2019 11:22:21 AM EDT
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Good info thanks.
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Posted: 11/30/2019 12:21:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Tazaroo]
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Being the owner of an original 602 upper I'm saddened to see that the VP 12 barrel wasn't mentioned.
GM and HRA stuff is missing also but that's a whole different story.
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PA, USA
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Posted: 11/30/2019 1:04:38 PM EDT
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This should be a sticky
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Posted: 11/30/2019 1:29:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tazaroo:
Being the owner of an original 602 upper I'm saddened to see that the VP 12 barrel wasn't mentioned. [color=#ff0000] GM and HRA stuff is missing also but that's a whole different story.willp had started research on them but shortly after is when he "stepped" away from AR/M16 research to go into a new hobby. MrM1A1 (and a few others) took the ball and expanded on H&R and GM rifles and did a great job. It IS a sticky. Once again I have to point to the member who had examined dozens into the hundreds of demills and found interesting things with GM and H&R stuff too. I'm hoping he's gonna write a book one day using personal observations from all those demills. I keep trying to convince him to do so....
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Posted: 11/30/2019 3:10:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: S13]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SSBlack86:
This should be a sticky @VA-gunnut |
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Posted: 11/30/2019 5:54:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/30/2019 6:00:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: S13]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VA-gunnut:
Now, OP. You might want to change the thread title so it is searchable and shows the content of the thread.
@retroguy |
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Posted: 12/1/2019 1:55:23 AM EDT
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@VA-gunnut
While we’re tagging stuff, I’ve been looking for a mod to tag this and nobody has done it. Hopefully you can help. Many thanks: https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/The-Complete-ArmaLite-AR-15-Prototype-Guide/123-743191/?page=1&anc=7949861#i7949861 |
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Posted: 12/1/2019 3:01:07 AM EDT
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Where do the following barrels fall?
- VP M1 - VP Thanks! |
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Posted: 12/1/2019 7:34:03 AM EDT
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The VP M1 is likely in the latter part of that 1959-1962 era and the VP 12 would probably be 1963. Some have said the very last 601s had VP 12s but I’m unsure.
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Posted: 12/1/2019 10:19:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanSheepDog:
@VA-gunnut While we're tagging stuff, I've been looking for a mod to tag this and nobody has done it. Hopefully you can help. Many thanks: https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/The-Complete-ArmaLite-AR-15-Prototype-Guide/123-743191/?page=1&anc=7949861#i7949861 |
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Posted: 12/1/2019 1:04:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tulizzy:
Where do the following barrels fall? - VP M1 - VP Thanks! |
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Posted: 12/1/2019 2:05:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VA-gunnut:
Unfortunately I can't tack that one as it's gone to the archive server. I know it would be a PITA, but if you create a new thread and repost the info I will gladly set it not to archive again. |
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Posted: 12/1/2019 2:07:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m1sniper: If vp only and no 12, it's a 1/14 barrel and is likely the last batch of 1/14 barrels made before the switch to the vp 12. Dateline??? No clue, I know Alex and others have been trying to date them, hopefully he will jump in. As for the vp M1, again, Alex may have that info, I won't swear, but doesn't M1 indicate possibly Winchester manufacture? |
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Posted: 12/1/2019 4:34:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tulizzy]
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I have a vp with the small m1 in front of the fsb on the top of the barrel(no c). I also have had a demolished barrel section with a duckbill on it with the same markings. I have this vp m1 barrel on my 602 now.
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Posted: 12/8/2019 8:50:15 PM EDT
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Here's my unrevised list.
AR-15 Parts Lower Receiver Ass'y Safety w/hole 1959-1964 Safety 1965-1982 Front Takedown Pin- w/ hole 1959-1964 Rear Takedown Pin- w/hole 1950-1964 Front Takedown Pin- w/o hole 1964-2008 Rear Takedown Pin- w/o hole 1964-2008 Mag Catch with small hole 1959-1964 Mag Catch 1964-2008 Mag Catch Button- Straight Lined Pattern 1959-1962?? Mag Catch Button- Circular pattern- Fine Lines 1963-1966 Mag Catch Button- Circular pattern- Coarse Lines 1967- 2008 Bolt Stop- Early Lined Flat End 1959-1963 Bolt Stop- Mid Transitional- Lined Lower Part 1964-1965 Bolt Stop- Late 1964-2008 Hammer- C with E inside circle Hammer- C with # inside circle Hammer- No markings Trigger- C with # inside circle Trigger- No marking Trigger Pin Grey Trigger Spring Hammer- Pin Grey Hammer Spring Disconnector- Low cut 1959- 1965 Disconnector- High cut 1966- 1982 Stock Group- Shorty Collapsible Stock 1967-197??? Buffer Spring- Shorty 1967-2008 Buffer- Shorty Red Plastic End 1967-1982 Buffer Tube- 2 position 1967-1982 Locking Ring w/ 1 hole 1967-1982 Locking Ring Plate 1967-2008 Stock Group- Rifle Buttstock Ass'y w/o butt trap- Type "A" 1959- Brown Painted Green 1st- 100 produced Buttstock Ass'y w/o butt trap- Type "B" 1959-1962 Green Painted Buttstock Ass'y w/o butt trap- Type "C" 1963- Early 1964 Metal Sling Swivel Buttstock Ass'y w/o butt trap- Type "D" Early 1964-1969 A1 Buttstock w/ Trap- Type "E"1969-1982 Buffer- Early Edgewater 1959-Used until 12/66 Buffer- Standard 12/1966, 1967-1982 early red wine colored end Buffer Tube- with hole 1959-1966 Buffer Tube- Standard 1967-1982 Stock Screw 1959-1966 Stock Screw with drain hole1967-1982 Pistol Grip- Brown1959- Brown Painted Green 1st- 100 produced Pistol Grip- Green1959-1962 Pistol Grip- Mottled1963-1964 Pistol Grip A1 1965-1982 Pistol Grip Screw & Washer 1959-1982 Upper Receiver Ass'y A1 Upper Receiver w/o FA 1959-1970 A1 Upper Receiver w/Fwd Asst 1964-1982 Tear-Drop F/A 1964-1982 A1 Ejection Port Cover Early Square- 1959-Dropped in 1964 A1 Ejection Port Cover Rectangle 1964-1982 Charging Handle Triangle- AF only 1959-1964 Replaced 1964 Charging Handle 1964-2008 Bolt Group M16 Bolt Carrier- Chromed- Slabside 1959-1964 M16 Bolt Carrier- Parked- Slabside 1965-1966 only Used on 610 model also M16 Bolt Carrier- Chromed Serrated 1964-1965 M16 Bolt Carrier- Serrated Parked un-marked 1965-1966 M16 Bolt Carrier- Serrated Parked "C" marked 1967-1995 Bolts- Complete- Chromed Marked "MP"- Lg Band 1959-1964 Bolts- Complete- Chromed Marked "MP"- Sm Band 1959-1964 Bolts- Complete- Parkerized- "MP" Marked 1965-1966 Bolts- Complete- Parkerized- "MPC" Marked 1967-1995 Bolt Cam Pin Chromed 1959-1966 Bolt Cam Pin- Parkerized 1966-2008 Bolt Carrier Key Chromed 1959-1964 Bolt Carrier Key- Parkerized 1965-2008 Firing Pins- Old Style "Fat End" 1959-1962 Firing Pins- Middle Style "Square End" 1963-1966 Firing Pin- Current 1967-2008 Firing Pin Retaining Pins- Chromed 1959-1964 Firing Pin Retaining Pins- Cotter Pin 1964-2008 Barrel Group Barrel "W" marked 1-14 twist 1959-1962 Barrel "VP" "12" marked 1963 Late 601, 602 Barrel "M VP" "12" marked 1964-1965 XM16E1, 604, 605 Barrel "MP" "12" marked 1965-1966 Barrel "MP C" marked Oct 1967-1969 Barrel "C MP C" marked 1969-1971 Barrel "C MP B" marked 1971-1973 Barrel C MP Chrome Bore" marked 1974-1982 Front Sight Base- Cast 1959-1963 Front Sight Base- Forged 1964-1966 Flashing Machined Front Sight Base- Forged with Drain Hole1967-1982 Flashing Machined Front Sight Base- Forged with Drain Hole1969-1982 Bell & "C" Marked Gas Tube Standard- Steel 1959-1963?? Gas Tube Standard- Stainless Steel Gas Tube Standard- Longer Bend Stainless Steel 1964-200??? A1 Handguards- without holes1963-1965 A1 Handguards- Dull with holes1966-1982 Gas Tube Shorty 1967- 2008 A1/A2 Shorty Handguard 1967-199??? 10.5" Barrels- Standard 1965 607 10.5" Barrels- Standard Nov 1966- March 1967 609- Fwd Asst/610- Slab Side A1 11.5" Barrels- Standard 1966-1967 A1 11.5" Barrels- Standard 1967-1982 Bayonet Lug Ground Off A1 Slip Ring Smooth 1963-1974 A2 Slip Ring Delta 1969-1982 Duckbill Flash Hider 1959-1963 3- Prong Flash Hider 1963-part of 1967 A1 Flash Hider part of 1967-1982 A1 Lock Washer 1959-1982 Lower Receivers 601 Mfg'd 1959-1963 Flatside 602- Mfg'd 1963 - 1964 Majority to AF Flatside 603/E1 Mfg'd 1964 - 1967XM16E1 Lower 603/A1 Mfg'd 1967 - 1982A1 Lower 604 Mfg'd 1964 - 1967, 1970XM16E1 Lower 1964-5 Upper has thinner arrow 605- Mfg'd 1965XM16E1 Lower Receiver 607 Slabside or Fwd Assist UpperXM16E1 Lower Receiver 609 1966-1967 w/ Fwd Assist Late 1966- early 1967 XM16E1 Rec- Late A1 Receiver 610 Slabside Upper Late 1966- early 1967 XM177E2 Mfg'd 1967-1970A1 Lower 651/652 Mfg'd 1970-1974?A1 Lower 653/653 No F/A 1971 - 1984A1 Lower 723 1980's A2 Lower |
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Posted: 8/16/2020 1:52:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Wangstang]
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I pulled these together this morning thinking that these may be of some use as we are now seeing some crossing of "modern" AR gear into the retro world given how long the AR15's been in service...
CAGE Codes - 0143N - GLOCK GMBH [Austria-Ferlach] 04099 - Capco Inc ASAP Aerospace 041N2 - BENCHMADE KNIFE CO. INC. 05395 - L-3 COMMUNICATIONS CORPORATION 05606 - GENERAL DYNAMICS OTS INC 06401 - L-3 COMMUNICATIONS CORPORATION 07210 - STURM RUGER & COMPANY INC. 077H9 - AO Precision Manufacturing LLC 086B5 - AUSTIN PRECISION PRODUCTS 0A8R7 - PRECISION REFLEX INC 0BJZ8 - SUREFIRE LLC 0BT64 - BARRETT FIREARMS USA INC. 0FL29 - TRIJICON INC. 0GU83 - MACHINING TECHNOLOGIES INC [Matech (rear sights)] 0MY77 - LASER PRODUCTS 0N2S7 - Glock Inc 0WSZ3 - WILSONS GUN SHOP INC 0WXH8 - BADGER ORDNANCE 0XA57 - BLACKHAWK INDUSTRIES PRODUCT GROUP 12238 - BROWNELLS INCORPORATED 13629 - COLT DEFENSE LLC 1B1B6 - Toolcraft 1D2P7 - TENEBRAEX CORPORATION 1EF82 - SIG SAUER INC. 1KW91 - Manufacturing Support Industries 1LX50 - MAGPUL INDUSTRIES CORP. 1MLU1 - L-3 COMMUNICATIONS EOTECH, INC. 1PV46 - ARMALITE INC. 1S002 - Knights Armament 1SDY4 - ELCAN OPTICAL TECHNOLOGIES 1SLF0 - LIGHTFORCE USA INCORPORATED [Nightforce Optics] 1TCL8 - ROCK RIVER ARMS INC. 1UB81 - L-3 GLOBAL COMMUNICATIONS SOLUTIONS 1VLM5 - US NIGHT VISION CORPORATION 1VN13 - GENERAL DYNAMICS C4 SYSTEMS INC. 1WXY6 - AERO PRECISION INC 26978 - General Dynamics OTS INC 2C085 - COLT CANADA CORPORATION 2U894 - DSE INC [Balimoy MFG CO] 33710 - OKAY INDUSTRIES INC. 342X6 - BRAVO COMPANY USA INC. 35848 - LEUPOLD & STEVENS INC. 3A5E1 - SMITH ENTERPRISE INC 3A703 - REMINGTON ARMS COMPANY, LLC [Ilion, NY] 3B5H7 - COLTS MANUFACTURING COMPANY LLC 3C4V9 - SABRE DEFENCE INDUSTRIES LLC 3DS19 - MEGA MACHINE SHOP INC. 3E2Q7 - AMERICAN PARTS COMPANY THE [TAPCO] 3E3E2 - DANIEL DEFENSE INC. 3EZ11 - TROY INDUSTRIES INC. 3G0F5 - COLT INDUSTRIES INC. D/B/A COMMAND 3HGK0 - GENERAL DYNAMICS C4 SYSTEMS INC 3HN73 - HECKLER & KOCH DEFENSE INC. [Ashburn, VA] 3J629 - AIMPOINT INC. 3S679 - FN MANUFACTURING LLC 3T821 - HECKLER & KOCH INC. [COLUMBUS, GA, UNITED STATES] 3U889 - RAYTHEON CO 3W544 - LEWIS MACHINE & TOOL CO. 40554 - DPMS FIREARMS LLC 41758 - O. F. MOSSBERG & SONS INCORPORATED 42UP6 - CZ-USA INC 431U5 - NOVESKE RIFLEWORKS LLC 43VN9 - GEISSELE AUTOMATICS LLC 48521 - COLT INDUSTRIES OPERATING CORP 488B1 - STAG ARMS LLC 4CKJ8 - L-3 COMMUNICATIONS EO/IR INC. 4F181 - ARMALITE INC 4U486 - P & S PRODUCTS INC. 4WZ76 - LRB OF LONG ISLAND INC 50446 - REMINGTON ARMS COMPANY, LLC [MADISON, NC] 52RX1 - LWRC INTERNATIONAL LLC 55358 - SMITH & WESSON CORP 56161 - GENERAL DYNAMICS LAND SYSTEMS CANADA 58VQ8 - B5 SYSTEMS, INC. 59V15 - GERBER GEAR 5S631 - LEUPOLD AND STEVENS INC 5VWL1 - SILENCERCO LLC DIV GOVERNMENT SALES 5YS77 - LARUE TACTICAL 5ZJP7 - NSWC CRANE 6A253 - MIDWEST INDUSTRIES 6B9L5 - BUSHMASTER FIREARMS INTERNATIONAL [Ilion, NY] 6FHX2 - GENERAL DYNAMICS C4 SYSTEMS KOREA 6K2W5 - MCKAY ENTERPRISES LLC 6M7X8 - RANGE TOOL CO LLC, THE 6M9N8 - C PRODUCTS DEFENSE INC 6MM23 - WINDHAM WEAPONRY 6P199 - CENTER INDUSTRIES CORPORATION 6YEV9 - HODGE DEFENSE SYSTEMS, INC. 6ZWB1 - SIG SAUER, INC 7XC20 - Palmetto Sate Armory, LLC 7Z500 - BUSHMASTER FIREARMS INTERNATIONAL [Windham, ME] 8P264 - EOTECH CORP 9G855 - COLT INDUSTRIES INC FIREARMS DIV AD122 - UGO DR. PASSALACQUA B0897 - FN HERSTAL SA [HERSTAL, BELGIUM] D2330 - HECKLER & KOCH GMBH [OBERNDORF AM NECKAR, GERMANY] S5591 - GLOCK GMBH [Austria - Deutsch-Wagram] U4393 - ACCURACY INTERNATIONAL LTD Z0DF8 - LEGEAR AUSTRALIA [USA.] And for those who enjoy odd ball info: 0SW52 - HARBOR FREIGHT TOOLS [FRESNO, CA, UNITED STATES] <<<Yes, it's real...&...Yes, they were awarded contracts 0NZU0 - HARBOR FREIGHT TOOLS USA, INC. [CAMARILLO, CA, UNITED STATES]<<Yes, it's real...&...Yes, they were awarded contracts |
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Posted: 8/16/2020 7:27:51 PM EDT
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Well you definitely earned your user name as "retroguy"
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Posted: 9/23/2021 4:44:55 AM EDT
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Very informative post Retroguy.
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Posted: 3/21/2022 1:46:16 PM EDT
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I posted this a couple of mins ago elsewhere, re posting here ...looks like the place.
I haven't been on this site for a while, don't know if I'm in the right place. Back (10 years???) some did a group buy on the early proto type front sight to build an early AR15. I see the viet nam rifle are selling at a very good price, so I was wondering what an insurance value or reasonable selling price might be for these builds?? If I remember, each build was kinda unique depending on the builder. any assist is appreciated, Ron |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 6:58:15 PM EDT
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Regarding barrel markings, I owned SN 714 which I believe was 1965 manufacture. I have read the first regular manufacturing lot (after an initial small batch one could consider a pre-production run) was for 500 so this would be from the second production lot if that info is correct.
My contribution is that it was marked with a "W" and "14". Was not a 1:12 twist. I sold it about 25 years ago. :( |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 12:20:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m1sniper: Busy today, but here are a few: No mention of vp (only) marked 1/14 barrels,,, late 601s ( vp 12 barrels may also be found on 601s as replacements when it was determined that the 1/14 barrels were not up to snuff) No mention of vp (only) marked 1/12 barrels,,, early 602s (these have a small 12 stamped at the 6 o'clock position on the barrel about and inch or so behind the FH.) No evidence that MP barrels were made in 1965, but plenty showing 66 and 67 based on deep research done by former member willp and others here..(PS, this was also a transitional period when the FSB received the drain hole under the front sight pin)( and also the transition of forge flash remaining or being removed on the FSB) Green type C stocks??? Type C stocks were the 1st to be dye impregnated black..., Type B stocks started as brown fiberglass just like the type A stocks then were painted either green or black depending on who the end user was. In some cases B were painted green 1st, then factory painted black. The 1 I had was black over brown. My HG set was factory green over brown, then factory painted black. (overspray went behind the heat shields indicating done at Colt before the shields were installed.) A few members have these. Same with PGs, some were black over green, some were black over brown No mention of the early "full circle, or many circle" (however you want to refer to it) mag release buttons as opposed to the later "circular" buttons. And to get more technical, there are 2 versions. Both versions have 5 ribs above and below the hole, and 2 full ribs and to the left and right of the hole. One version, if you use a magnifying glass, the ribs are straight up and down (same thickness at the top and down at the bottom, the 2nd version, each rib "tapers" out slightly as it goes down. So there is a start. ETA, IIRC one of our members found written info in a GI manual dated 1966 that stated something to the effect that early bend carbon steel gas tubes are now to be replaced with stainless steel (early bend) gas tubes. So early carbons were likely used up to 1966, and again IIRC, willp also found this info by inspecting real deal actual military rifles. Even tho early bend stainless tubes seem to be plentiful, they had the shortest life span. ETA2: the date line for dimpled pins (referred to above as with holes and without holes) and mag release lever may be incorrect. We all assumed (including me) back when this guide was posted, that early rifles all had dimples. However a member who has been able to go thru many dozens if not hundreds of demills finds dimpled pins on later rifles then listed above, not so much on early ones.. They asked for it. Home run. |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 12:26:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: medicmandan]
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Posted: 8/30/2023 12:32:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By skychair: I posted this a couple of mins ago elsewhere, re posting here ...looks like the place. I haven't been on this site for a while, don't know if I'm in the right place. Back (10 years???) some did a group buy on the early proto type front sight to build an early AR15. I see the viet nam rifle are selling at a very good price, so I was wondering what an insurance value or reasonable selling price might be for these builds?? If I remember, each build was kinda unique depending on the builder. any assist is appreciated, Ron 
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