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Posted: 3/5/2024 6:04:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AKzgalore]
Looking for a cheap BCG to disassemble & cut-up for an experiment project; was initially going to aim to 3DP it out of a metal with a cheapo ching chong shop but couldn't get ahold of a good file or far lower costs as I had hoped after posting in that sub (besides, intl. shipping of technically ITAR-reg items? Nahh....).
Therefore without regard to quality given my aforementioned purpose, where can I get the cheapest complete M16 BCG out on the market right now? I've identified one shop with blems that would be $48 'out-the-door' for me. Can anyone beat that? Riverofguns.com is down so I can't check classifieds. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 3/5/2024 7:21:44 PM EDT
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Somebody may know something else, but THESE are the cheapest ones I know of at the moment.
If you can get past that infernal ad hijacking piece that runs on this site 
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Posted: 3/5/2024 7:58:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Deathbunny17]
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Surplus ammo .com
Battlehawk armory both in the 60s plus shipping |
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Posted: 3/5/2024 7:58:55 PM EDT
[#3]
Maybe combat armory would have one for cheap.
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Posted: 3/5/2024 8:07:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tiribulus: Somebody may know something else, but THESE are the cheapest ones I know of at the moment. If you can get past that infernal ad hijacking piece that runs on this site We bought 10 of those for some cheap builds and I will never do that again. |
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Posted: 3/5/2024 8:11:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jwb211: We bought 10 of those for some cheap builds and I will never do that again. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jwb211: Originally Posted By Tiribulus: Somebody may know something else, but THESE are the cheapest ones I know of at the moment. If you can get past that infernal ad hijacking piece that runs on this site We bought 10 of those for some cheap builds and I will never do that again. |
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Posted: 3/5/2024 8:24:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jwb211]
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Merlin: Why? Bolt, extractor, firing pin issues on multiple units out of those 10. It just not worth the trouble for the money. I do remember laughing at the box when I got the stuff in. It reminded me of that macaroni and f'it meme. It looked like ZFG and parts just thrown in a box and shipped. No packing at all. ETA:   Attached File |
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Posted: 3/5/2024 8:44:04 PM EDT
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MAF arms
orlando Florida ‘$43 for a blem 5$ shipping |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 3/5/2024 8:44:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jwb211: Bolt, extractor, firing pin issues on multiple units out of those 10. It just not worth the trouble for the money. I do remember laughing at the box when I got the stuff in. It reminded me of that macaroni and f'it meme. It looked like ZFG and parts just thrown in a box and shipped. No packing at all. ETA: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/160892/ADF7032B-7425-40B1-8C68-8C252638A441_jpe-3150432.JPG How long ago was this? I just bought one of the ones with lady liberty holding up an AR. Seems like a toolcraft carrier and some C158 bolt that actually looks decently clean. The gas rings are a little snug, but other than that it seems fine for a low cost BCG. Only have a few hundred rounds on it, so longevity is unproven. Of course I didn't get all the small parts you did, just this BCG and an FDE A2 birdcage, but my package was adequate. Wrapping and bubble stuffed. |
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Posted: 3/5/2024 9:03:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Deathbunny17: MAF arms orlando Florida ‘$43 for a blem 5$ shipping Beat me to it. https://maf-arms.com/product/ar15-bcg-blem/ |
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Posted: 3/5/2024 9:09:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tiribulus: How long ago was this? I just bought one of the ones with lady liberty holding up an AR. Seems like a toolcraft carrier and some C158 bolt that actually looks decently clean. The gas rings are a little snug, but other than that it seems fine for a low cost BCG. Only have a few hundred rounds on it, so longevity is unproven. Of course I didn't get all the small parts you did, just this BCG and an FDE A2 birdcage, but my package was adequate. Wrapping and bubble stuffed. It was sometime the middle of last year. I figured they bought them from a big supplier in bulk and sold them under their name but no actual clue. I think they have different grades too. These were like 55ish each buying 10 at a time making them the cheapest ones they sell. Maybe they are fine and I just got a bad batch but it's just not worth it to me personally. They were not all bad to my knowledge but just by the numbers on the ones that were its too much for me to trust. |
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Posted: 3/5/2024 9:15:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jwb211: Bolt, extractor, firing pin issues on multiple units out of those 10. It just not worth the trouble for the money. I do remember laughing at the box when I got the stuff in. It reminded me of that macaroni and f'it meme. It looked like ZFG and parts just thrown in a box and shipped. No packing at all. ETA: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/160892/ADF7032B-7425-40B1-8C68-8C252638A441_jpe-3150432.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jwb211: Originally Posted By Merlin: Why? Bolt, extractor, firing pin issues on multiple units out of those 10. It just not worth the trouble for the money. I do remember laughing at the box when I got the stuff in. It reminded me of that macaroni and f'it meme. It looked like ZFG and parts just thrown in a box and shipped. No packing at all. ETA: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/160892/ADF7032B-7425-40B1-8C68-8C252638A441_jpe-3150432.JPG  |
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Posted: 3/5/2024 9:52:48 PM EDT
[#12]
This a good price for a Toolcraft. I have one and it looks and works great.
https://www.armorally.com/shop/toolcraft-5-56-223-bolt-carrier-group-w-c158-bolt-black-nitride/ |
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Posted: 3/5/2024 11:31:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Admirer: This a good price for a Toolcraft. I have one and it looks and works great. https://www.armorally.com/shop/toolcraft-5-56-223-bolt-carrier-group-w-c158-bolt-black-nitride/ It's been a minute (earliest was 2019 - last one was 2023) but I've ordered at least three TC BCGs from Arm Or Ally, and all have been GTG! Average price right around $70 plus shipping.... And I just noticed NO TAX. |
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Posted: 3/6/2024 12:34:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AKzgalore]
[#14]
Hmm...some good deals here, but I mean considering the OP, yours truly, managed to buy new $44 Brownells BCGs last year, a blem $48 one from unknown sourcing quality seems underwhelming as the best price so far...
I might just get a Toolcraft and swap with my cheapest one at the end of the day, but considering I actually just need a stripped carrier for this potential fail of an experimental project, I was thinking the days of $25 and $30 BCGs still existed... |
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Posted: 3/6/2024 12:46:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKzgalore: Hmm...some good deals here, but I mean considering the OP, yours truly, managed to buy new $44 Brownells BCGs last year, a blem $48 one from unknown sourcing quality seems underwhelming as the best price so far... I might just get a Toolcraft and swap with my cheapest one at the end of the day, but considering I actually just need a stripped carrier for this potential fail of an experimental project, I was thinking the days of $25 and $30 BCGs still existed... In my thirty years of buying AR parts I've never seen a $25 or $30 BCG! If you just want a stripped carrier, look HERE. They also have stripped bolts for $10. |
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Posted: 3/6/2024 7:49:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dex223: In my thirty years of buying AR parts I've never seen a $25 or $30 BCG! If you just want a stripped carrier, look HERE. They also have stripped bolts for $10. Never had heard of that place until now. Thanks for referring them and for the good deal kind sir! |
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Posted: 3/7/2024 7:50:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Admirer: This a good price for a Toolcraft. I have one and it looks and works great. https://www.armorally.com/shop/toolcraft-5-56-223-bolt-carrier-group-w-c158-bolt-black-nitride/ This |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 3/7/2024 8:56:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RangeToy: This Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RangeToy: Originally Posted By AR-Admirer: This a good price for a Toolcraft. I have one and it looks and works great. https://www.armorally.com/shop/toolcraft-5-56-223-bolt-carrier-group-w-c158-bolt-black-nitride/ This |
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Posted: 3/10/2024 12:26:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: panzersergeant]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Deathbunny17: MAF arms orlando Florida ‘$43 for a blem 5$ shipping Thanks for the tip. I bought two of them. Worked out to be $45 each shipped.  The blem is the gas key isn't staked all the way and they stated as much in their ad. Easy enough fix using a vise, hammer, and center punch. If I had to guess I would say they are Toolcraft blems.     MAF Corporation sales page. |
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Posted: 3/10/2024 10:22:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By panzersergeant: Thanks for the tip. I bought two of them. Worked out to be $45 each shipped. The blem is the gas key isn't staked all the way and they stated as much in their ad. Easy enough fix using a vise, hammer, and center punch. If I had to guess I would say they are Toolcraft blems. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/25872/IMG_4139-3155040.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/25872/IMG_4136-3155037.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/25872/IMG_4135-3155036.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/25872/IMG_4133-3155050.jpg MAF Corporation sales page. Are they parkerized, or nitrided? |
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Posted: 3/10/2024 10:28:22 PM EDT
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Right to Bear Arms has some for $56.
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Posted: 3/10/2024 11:08:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dex223: Are they parkerized, or nitrided? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dex223: Originally Posted By panzersergeant: Thanks for the tip. I bought two of them. Worked out to be $45 each shipped. The blem is the gas key isn't staked all the way and they stated as much in their ad. Easy enough fix using a vise, hammer, and center punch. If I had to guess I would say they are Toolcraft blems. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/25872/IMG_4139-3155040.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/25872/IMG_4136-3155037.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/25872/IMG_4135-3155036.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/25872/IMG_4133-3155050.jpg MAF Corporation sales page. Are they parkerized, or nitrided? They appear to be parked. |
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Posted: 3/11/2024 12:45:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGWLDR: They appear to be parked. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGWLDR: Originally Posted By Dex223: Originally Posted By panzersergeant: Thanks for the tip. I bought two of them. Worked out to be $45 each shipped. The blem is the gas key isn't staked all the way and they stated as much in their ad. Easy enough fix using a vise, hammer, and center punch. If I had to guess I would say they are Toolcraft blems. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/25872/IMG_4139-3155040.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/25872/IMG_4136-3155037.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/25872/IMG_4135-3155036.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/25872/IMG_4133-3155050.jpg MAF Corporation sales page. Are they parkerized, or nitrided? They appear to be parked. That's what I see too. But, I don't see any chrome lining in the gas key or around the bolt. |
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Posted: 3/11/2024 2:22:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dex223: That's what I see too. But, I don't see any chrome lining in the gas key or around the bolt. Correct. They will make good spare range bolts. If they last a few thousand rounds I will have gotten my money's worth. 
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Posted: 3/11/2024 5:21:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dex223: That's what I see too. But, I don't see any chrome lining in the gas key or around the bolt. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dex223: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Originally Posted By Dex223: Originally Posted By panzersergeant: Thanks for the tip. I bought two of them. Worked out to be $45 each shipped. The blem is the gas key isn't staked all the way and they stated as much in their ad. Easy enough fix using a vise, hammer, and center punch. If I had to guess I would say they are Toolcraft blems. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/25872/IMG_4139-3155040.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/25872/IMG_4136-3155037.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/25872/IMG_4135-3155036.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/25872/IMG_4133-3155050.jpg MAF Corporation sales page. Are they parkerized, or nitrided? They appear to be parked. That's what I see too. But, I don't see any chrome lining in the gas key or around the bolt. Good eye. I'd be curious as to what they measure in the bore. |
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Posted: 3/11/2024 3:30:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By panzersergeant: Correct. They will make good spare range bolts. If they last a few thousand rounds I will have gotten my money's worth. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By panzersergeant: Originally Posted By Dex223: That's what I see too. But, I don't see any chrome lining in the gas key or around the bolt. Correct. They will make good spare range bolts. If they last a few thousand rounds I will have gotten my money's worth. Your photos make them look pretty good. I may still get one to keep in a range bag, or for a cheapo single-shot AR I've been slowly building. |
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Posted: 3/11/2024 4:26:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKzgalore: ...I actually just need a stripped carrier for this potential fail of an experimental project, I was thinking the days of $25 and $30 BCGs still existed... Hey OP, if you're still looking for just a stripped bolt carrier? Cheaper Than Dirt and Here |
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Posted: 3/14/2024 9:25:26 PM EDT
[#28]
How about these for $50, shipped?
https://stdgun.com/5-56-223-300-blackout-nitride-bolt-carrier-group/ |
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Posted: 3/22/2024 8:07:42 PM EDT
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https://monstrumtactical.com/ar-15-keymod-rail-handguard-10-inch/
20$ keymod 10” 11 oz 7$ shipping two colors left |
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Posted: 3/22/2024 10:15:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/22/2024 10:24:59 PM EDT
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These are all good deals, but Cheaper Than Dirt's $15.95 stripped carrier took the deal for me, especially after their $15 off $100 coupon for first-time buyers.
I know they get a lot of **** from a lot of places but they actually pitched a solid with me on that one order for it... |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 9:26:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Deathbunny17: https://monstrumtactical.com/ar-15-keymod-rail-handguard-10-inch/ 20$ keymod 10” 11 oz 7$ shipping two colors left 
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Posted: 3/24/2024 12:27:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Deathbunny17]
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGWLDR: https://www.armorally.com/shop/toolcraft-450-bushmaster-bolt-carrier-group/ Toolcraft 450 bushmaster bcg $75.17 fixed it |
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Posted: 3/24/2024 12:56:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Deathbunny17: https://www.armorally.com/shop/toolcraft-450-bushmaster-bolt-carrier-group/ Toolcraft 450 bushmaster bcg $75.17 fixed it Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Deathbunny17: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: https://www.armorally.com/shop/toolcraft-450-bushmaster-bolt-carrier-group/ Toolcraft 450 bushmaster bcg $75.17 fixed it
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Posted: 3/26/2024 12:22:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: j3_]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKzgalore: These are all good deals, but Cheaper Than Dirt's $15.95 stripped carrier took the deal for me, especially after their $15 off $100 coupon for first-time buyers. I know they get a lot of **** from a lot of places but they actually pitched a solid with me on that one order for it... But what did you get for the money? I ordered one to see what shows up for me. |
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Posted: 3/26/2024 10:31:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By j3_: But what did you get for the money? I ordered one to see what shows up for me. I got an MGI bolt carrier. I ordered some other stuff in it and it seems to me to have been repackaged, for some of the items don't actually look like OEM stuff from the brands they advertise. That bolt carrier for instance was supposed to be Doublestar/JTD; it's clearly marked 'MGI'. MGI may be using contract-ordered stuff from other brands since I doubt they forge & machine a ton of stuff in-house, but still...anyhow, it's CTD, what can you expect? But I'd say I still got what I wanted for the money I paid for. |
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Posted: 3/26/2024 12:34:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: j3_]
[#37]
Thanks for the reply. I figured it would be different than what was pictured. I ordered a carrier with a key a while back and got one of those chopped up MGI carriers in the packaged instead of what was pictured. I don't think it was CTD that was to blame for what was in the marked plastic package I got.
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Posted: 3/26/2024 6:59:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By j3_: Thanks for the reply. I figured it would be different than what was pictured. I ordered a carrier with a key a while back and got one of those chopped up MGI carriers in the packaged instead of what was pictured. I don't think it was CTD that was to blame for what was in the marked plastic package I got. Interesting; was your MGI carrier "chopped up" as in AK mag-cut? |
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Posted: 3/26/2024 7:25:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: j3_]
[#39]
Sure it was. I never checked if the cut out bottom made it set lower in an upper receiver though.
Guess I should have but I put it in the "hope they have a local gun buy back pile o parts". I ordered one but assume it will be the same as yours just without a key like the last one had. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 3:15:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKzgalore: Interesting; was your MGI carrier "chopped up" as in AK mag-cut? Any posts you can direct me to so I can reference these cuts? I ordered a few of these carriers and wanna know if they have been modified . Thanks |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 4:09:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hdcharlie: How about these for $50, shipped? https://stdgun.com/5-56-223-300-blackout-nitride-bolt-carrier-group/ I bought two of those BCG one the gas key wasn't staked and the other one I changed the extractor spring. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 4:14:31 PM EDT
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@amphibian - he has experience w/ the MGI bolt carriers.
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Posted: 4/24/2024 4:39:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MeanGun: Any posts you can direct me to so I can reference these cuts? I ordered a few of these carriers and wanna know if they have been modified . Thanks I would make sure a bolt with gas rings would move freely in the carrier also if I bought one of the mgi marked ones. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 6:11:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jwb211: Bolt, extractor, firing pin issues on multiple units out of those 10. It just not worth the trouble for the money. I do remember laughing at the box when I got the stuff in. It reminded me of that macaroni and f'it meme. It looked like ZFG and parts just thrown in a box and shipped. No packing at all. ETA: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/160892/ADF7032B-7425-40B1-8C68-8C252638A441_jpe-3150432.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jwb211: Originally Posted By Merlin: Why? Bolt, extractor, firing pin issues on multiple units out of those 10. It just not worth the trouble for the money. I do remember laughing at the box when I got the stuff in. It reminded me of that macaroni and f'it meme. It looked like ZFG and parts just thrown in a box and shipped. No packing at all. ETA: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/160892/ADF7032B-7425-40B1-8C68-8C252638A441_jpe-3150432.JPG I was just about to ask if this was something that we wanted to go cheap on. |
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