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I have been seeing a lot of people with the Law Tactical folding stock adapter on there AR Pistol's. Any legality issues on that? |
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Originally Posted By RDTCU:
Nope, just makes it shorter to stow. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RDTCU:
Originally Posted By Mobius38:
Question? I have been seeing a lot of people with the Law Tactical folding stock adapter on there AR Pistol's. Any legality issues on that? Nope, just makes it shorter to stow. Even in crappy Komifornia? |
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Originally Posted By Mobius38:
Even in crappy Komifornia? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Mobius38:
Originally Posted By RDTCU:
Originally Posted By Mobius38:
Question? I have been seeing a lot of people with the Law Tactical folding stock adapter on there AR Pistol's. Any legality issues on that? Nope, just makes it shorter to stow. Even in crappy Komifornia? Ha, not sure, it's not capable of functioning as a semi-auto when folded, as in you'll damage things trying to fire it. |
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Originally Posted By ksenter:
i updated my pistol yesterday. Although I think it looks rather clumbsy, it really does improve the, uh..., single handed firing capabilities of the ar pistol, yeah, uh huh, ...that. <a href="http://s270.photobucket.com/user/kennysenter/media/gun%20stuff/sigtac_001_zpscf18ff2b.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj95/kennysenter/gun%20stuff/sigtac_001_zpscf18ff2b.jpg</a> View Quote Haha. Yeah I have been toying with the idea of picking one of those up for my pistol build that is sitting in parts back home. It's laughable to me that the powers that be don't just say fuck it and allow tax-free SBRs at this point. Oh well. |
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now having one, I'd say do it, get one. It really is legitimately good. Before I got one, I kinda scoffed at the idea. But having one, besides it looking clumsy (I really like how my pistol looked without, but was on the verge of selling due to the impracticality), its truly a great alternative to the SBR route. I was at a gun show, couldnt find anything else I was gonna spend money on so took a chance on it and took it home. I love it
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this is my new AR pistol.
stock magpul barrel stainless steel match grade from Walter, Germany flash hider JP upper/lower Hera bolt carrier treated with titanium nitride http://www.snfossils.com/foto/p15a |
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Originally Posted By Wallaby:
this is my new AR pistol. stock magpul barrel stainless steel match grade from Walter, Germany flash hider JP upper/lower Hera bolt carrier treated with titanium nitride http://www.snfossils.com/foto/p15a View Quote I see no pistol, I see an SBR. Seeing your post count, I hope you know the difference... You're listed as being in USA, but the rifle says Italy? |
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I think pistol or sbr is only a legal difference and this is a pistol. I come from europe and stay in usa for work for many month a year.
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Originally Posted By Wallaby:
I think pistol or sbr is only a legal difference and this is a pistol. I come from europe and stay in usa for work for many month a year. View Quote So that gun is back home in Europe, right? Because here in the US that is a short barreled rifle, not a pistol. If it's in the US, has a barrel less than 16", has a stock, and is not properly registered as a SBR, it could land you in federal prison. It's stupid, but those are the laws since 1934... Same goes for suppressors. In the UK it's almost impossible to own a semi-auto rifle as a civilian, but you can purchase suppressors at the hardware store... |
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you should also read up on the differences between a flash hider, a muzzle brake, and a compensator
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Originally Posted By Wallaby:
this is my new AR pistol. stock magpul barrel stainless steel match grade from Walter, Germany flash hider JP upper/lower Hera bolt carrier treated with titanium nitride http://www.snfossils.com/foto/p15a View Quote What grip is that? |
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Originally Posted By ksenter:
you should also read up on the differences between a flash hider, a muzzle brake, and a compensator View Quote please, for a gun in .223 with a 22 cm barrel it's really the same. Ok this is my 4 msg in this forum but there's something more than 2 or 3 days that I use guns for amusement and work.... about the grip is the original one given with the Hera lower |
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Originally Posted By Wallaby:
please, for a gun in .223 with a 22 cm barrel it's really the same. Ok this is my 4 msg in this forum but there's something more than 2 or 3 days that I use guns for amusement and work.... about the grip is the original one given with the Hera lower View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Wallaby:
Originally Posted By ksenter:
you should also read up on the differences between a flash hider, a muzzle brake, and a compensator please, for a gun in .223 with a 22 cm barrel it's really the same. Ok this is my 4 msg in this forum but there's something more than 2 or 3 days that I use guns for amusement and work.... about the grip is the original one given with the Hera lower mmmmm what ever float your boat but that is a compensator |
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pretty sure a comp is zero effective as a flash hider on such a short barrel. But like the other poster said...whatever floats your boat. hero
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Originally Posted By Wallaby:
please, for a gun in .223 with a 22 cm barrel it's really the same. Ok this is my 4 msg in this forum but there's something more than 2 or 3 days that I use guns for amusement and work.... about the grip is the original one given with the Hera lower View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Wallaby:
Originally Posted By ksenter:
you should also read up on the differences between a flash hider, a muzzle brake, and a compensator please, for a gun in .223 with a 22 cm barrel it's really the same. Ok this is my 4 msg in this forum but there's something more than 2 or 3 days that I use guns for amusement and work.... about the grip is the original one given with the Hera lower So you call an SBR a "pistol", which I hope to God you left back home, because here you would have a felony charge if caught with it. Ignorance of the law is not a valid defense. You call a JP tank brake a "Flash Hider" Have you ever shot the thing in the dark? It ain't hiding no flash... Things like the Vortex and the Blackout are flash hiders, because they do a very good job of, you know, hiding the flash. |
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Originally Posted By ksenter:
i updated my pistol yesterday. Although I think it looks rather clumbsy, it really does improve the, uh..., single handed firing capabilities of the ar pistol, yeah, uh huh, ...that. <a href="http://s270.photobucket.com/user/kennysenter/media/gun%20stuff/sigtac_001_zpscf18ff2b.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj95/kennysenter/gun%20stuff/sigtac_001_zpscf18ff2b.jpg</a> View Quote I dig this pistol!!! What mag do you have in it? since this is a pic thread. Played with the settings on the camera |
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Originally Posted By highintel:
How did you get that finish? Bead blast? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By highintel:
Originally Posted By DAN-WES-BUT:
CMT-TAC Build http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt208/BUTLERDANIEL70/DSCN1277.jpg How did you get that finish? Bead blast? Bead blasted, & Then finished with scotch-brite pad for a brushed look. The great thing is, if it gets a scratch or blemish all you have to do is put some more scratches on it (in a uniform fashion) |
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Originally Posted By ksenter:
But like the other poster said...whatever floats your boat. hero View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ksenter:
But like the other poster said...whatever floats your boat. hero writing in English I make some mistakes, but certainly less than you do writing in Italian or German or French . if you do not like what I write, just pass over and go read something else Originally Posted By ksenter:
So you call an SBR a "pistol", which I hope to God you left back home, because here you would have a felony charge if caught with it. Ignorance of the law is not a valid defense probably you don't know but the USA law do not apply to all the World. "SBR" do not exist in europe, my Ar15 is stated a s an handgun and of course is not in the USA. that allow to call it "pistol" without make any error borders of the world where you live are very close to your home. |
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Originally Posted By Wallaby:
probably you don't know but the USA law do not apply to all the World. "SBR" do not exist in europe, my Ar15 is stated a s an handgun and of course is not in the USA. that allow to call it "pistol" without make any error borders of the world where you live are very close to your home. View Quote No, you just failed to answer the question until now. I understand perfectly well that US law is not worldwide law. And don't make assumptions, you don't know a single thing about any one of us beyond what we have put in our posts. The only reason I asked is that some of us don't like to see fellow shooters end up in trouble for something as simple as not understanding the law. We look out for each other, simple as that. If you were unaware of the law, and that rifle was here in the US, you wouldn't be the first person to post something illegal on here, and be warned that it was illegal and should be taken down, only to argue and moan about it, showing their ignorance, until site staff took it down for them. Lose the attitude and don't try to play the "holier than thou" game and you'll get along with people better. |
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Originally Posted By RDTCU:
No, you just failed to answer the question until now. I understand perfectly well that US law is not worldwide law. And don't make assumptions, you don't know a single thing about any one of us beyond what we have put in our posts. The only reason I asked is that some of us don't like to see fellow shooters end up in trouble for something as simple as not understanding the law. We look out for each other, simple as that. If you were unaware of the law, and that rifle was here in the US, you wouldn't be the first person to post something illegal on here, and be warned that it was illegal and should be taken down, only to argue and moan about it, showing their ignorance, until site staff took it down for them. Lose the attitude and don't try to play the "holier than thou" game and you'll get along with people better. View Quote I'm really sorry, I misunderstood your posts and yes today is a bad day here at work. My Ar is fully legal because I own and use it outside the USA but in central europe (similar law apply to almost all euro countries). There's some restrictions only if the AR has a standard military caliber like 5.56x45, 7.62x39, 7.62x51, 9x19 ecc. ecc. no problem or restrictions for the other calibers like 300aac, 222rem, all other rifle and pistol calibers. |
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Originally Posted By Wallaby:
this is my new AR pistol. stock magpul barrel stainless steel match grade from Walter, Germany flash hider JP upper/lower Hera bolt carrier treated with titanium nitride http://www.snfossils.com/foto/p15a View Quote Very nice looking rifle, although I'm a bit confused by the muzzle brake. Have you fired it yet? I ask because a brake like that on such a short barrel must be intolerably loud. Are muzzle brakes which re-direct the concussion (such as the Noveske Pig, Troy Claymore, Kies Blastmaster, etc.) available and legal in your country? |
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View Quote What muzzle device is that? I've seen it on a couple rifles. |
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Originally Posted By RDTCU:
What muzzle device is that? I've seen it on a couple rifles. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RDTCU:
What muzzle device is that? I've seen it on a couple rifles. Its an Kaw Valley |
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Originally Posted By SgtRock162:
Del Ton Lower DPMS LPK Red X Arms upper 7.5 Phase 5 Tactical buff tube. http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p706/sgtrock162/photo5_zps2ab01754.jpg http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p706/sgtrock162/photo3_zps03082f12.jpg View Quote How do you like the red x arms upper? I'm starting my pistol build and am tempted on one. |
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Originally Posted By 19Charlie_84:
Some assembly required. <a href="http://s267.photobucket.com/user/Cramerica1/media/ARPistol_zpse6328dbd.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii307/Cramerica1/ARPistol_zpse6328dbd.jpg</a> View Quote blew up?.... |
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Originally Posted By Echo2:
Originally Posted By 19Charlie_84:
Some assembly required. <a href="http://s267.photobucket.com/user/Cramerica1/media/ARPistol_zpse6328dbd.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii307/Cramerica1/ARPistol_zpse6328dbd.jpg</a> blew up?.... Fixed it. When searching for parts I googled, "Loudest most obnoxious muzzle brake." |
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the grips are from Custom Killer Grips... www.amazon.com/shops/customkillergrips https://www.facebook.com/custom.killergrips |
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Originally Posted By CKG: http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r680/customkillergrips/silver_photo1_a_zps16d90e5b.jpg the grips are from Custom Killer Grips... www.amazon.com/shops/customkillergrips View Quote Mag release button looks strange. Did you install it backwards for a reason? Doesn't look screwed down correctly either. |
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Originally Posted By Tech-Com:
Mag release button looks strange. Did you install it backwards for a reason? Doesn't look screwed down correctly either. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Tech-Com:
Originally Posted By CKG:
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r680/customkillergrips/silver_photo1_a_zps16d90e5b.jpg the grips are from Custom Killer Grips... www.amazon.com/shops/customkillergrips Mag release button looks strange. Did you install it backwards for a reason? Doesn't look screwed down correctly either. Haha, I caught that too. Yeahhh, that's backwards. Effin' California... |
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Originally Posted By RDTCU:
Haha, I caught that too. Yeahhh, that's backwards. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RDTCU:
Originally Posted By Tech-Com:
Originally Posted By CKG:
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r680/customkillergrips/silver_photo1_a_zps16d90e5b.jpg the grips are from Custom Killer Grips... www.amazon.com/shops/customkillergrips Mag release button looks strange. Did you install it backwards for a reason? Doesn't look screwed down correctly either. Haha, I caught that too. Yeahhh, that's backwards. Bullet button for California? |
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Originally Posted By 4rcefedmkiv:
Bullet button for California? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 4rcefedmkiv:
Originally Posted By RDTCU:
Originally Posted By Tech-Com:
Originally Posted By CKG:
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r680/customkillergrips/silver_photo1_a_zps16d90e5b.jpg the grips are from Custom Killer Grips... www.amazon.com/shops/customkillergrips Mag release button looks strange. Did you install it backwards for a reason? Doesn't look screwed down correctly either. Haha, I caught that too. Yeahhh, that's backwards. Bullet button for California? All of California is backwards, so we're not entirely wrong... |
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Originally Posted By 4rcefedmkiv:
Bullet button for California? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 4rcefedmkiv:
Originally Posted By RDTCU:
Originally Posted By Tech-Com:
Originally Posted By CKG:
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r680/customkillergrips/silver_photo1_a_zps16d90e5b.jpg the grips are from Custom Killer Grips... www.amazon.com/shops/customkillergrips Mag release button looks strange. Did you install it backwards for a reason? Doesn't look screwed down correctly either. Haha, I caught that too. Yeahhh, that's backwards. Bullet button for California? Its a bullet button for CA. |
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Originally Posted By jaywlker:
I call this my Michigan SBR because this is as close to a 11 1/2' Comando which I cant have without getting a full auto version which is okay in Michigan. I'm starting to like this gun a lot without a stock. My carbines all have A2 stubby stocks. <a href="http://s450.photobucket.com/user/rep1954/media/IMG_20131013_100739-1.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq225/rep1954/IMG_20131013_100739-1.jpg</a> View Quote who makes the upper ?? Mid length?? |
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WARNING MY GRAMMAR SUCK MY SPELLING SUCK
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Originally Posted By 19Charlie_84:
Fixed it. <a href="http://s267.photobucket.com/user/Cramerica1/media/ARPistol2_zps403fb0bc.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii307/Cramerica1/ARPistol2_zps403fb0bc.jpg</a> When searching for parts I googled, "Loudest most obnoxious muzzle brake." View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 19Charlie_84:
Originally Posted By Echo2:
Originally Posted By 19Charlie_84:
Some assembly required. <a href="http://s267.photobucket.com/user/Cramerica1/media/ARPistol_zpse6328dbd.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii307/Cramerica1/ARPistol_zpse6328dbd.jpg</a> blew up?.... Fixed it. <a href="http://s267.photobucket.com/user/Cramerica1/media/ARPistol2_zps403fb0bc.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii307/Cramerica1/ARPistol2_zps403fb0bc.jpg</a> When searching for parts I googled, "Loudest most obnoxious muzzle brake." That thing is gorgeous. Making me rethink my (upcoming) 10.5" pistol build. |
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Yup! The price Kalifornians have to pay to own ARs. :(
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Sometimes you have to look for the irony, and sometimes it runs at you, head-butts you, kicks you in the balls, then bends you over and makes you its bitch.
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who makes the upper ?? Mid length??
It's a R-Guns A1 upper. The barrel is a DPMS with a carbine length gas system. |
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WARNING MY GRAMMAR SUCK MY SPELLING SUCK
nukldragr: If my count were any higher the little fuckers would jump out of my nuts and rob banks |
Originally Posted By jaywlker:
I call this my Michigan SBR because this is as close to a 11 1/2' Comando which I cant have without getting a full auto version which is okay in Michigan. I'm starting to like this gun a lot without a stock. My carbines all have A2 stubby stocks. <a href="http://s450.photobucket.com/user/rep1954/media/IMG_20131013_100739-1.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq225/rep1954/IMG_20131013_100739-1.jpg</a> View Quote Hopefully that law changes soon... |
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