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Luke 22:36 - And Jesus said to them, "But now, whoever has a money belt is to take it along, likewise also a bag, and whoever has no sword is to sell his coat and buy one.
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Originally Posted By rob99rt:
Setup for HD... wish I had a can, but subs without the can will have to do for now http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r235/rob99rt/20130911_212034_zps0180a42d.jpg apologies for the blurry pics... not enough light in the room to take a good pic at 9:15 PM. It's only around 20" long with the stock folded, btw, so it'll fit in a lot of backpacks. http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r235/rob99rt/20130911_212120_zps7318a932.jpg View Quote I would recommend some supers for hd if you're not running a can, ideally some Barnes black tips. |
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Originally Posted By 70satvert:
I would recommend some supers for hd if you're not running a can, ideally some Barnes black tips. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 70satvert:
Originally Posted By rob99rt:
Setup for HD... wish I had a can, but subs without the can will have to do for now http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r235/rob99rt/20130911_212034_zps0180a42d.jpg apologies for the blurry pics... not enough light in the room to take a good pic at 9:15 PM. It's only around 20" long with the stock folded, btw, so it'll fit in a lot of backpacks. http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r235/rob99rt/20130911_212120_zps7318a932.jpg I would recommend some supers for hd if you're not running a can, ideally some Barnes black tips. that's what I have a spare mag loaded up with in the top drawer of the nightstand next to me. question, though. . The supers are a lot louder than the subs, so why would you recommend those inside the house without the can? Just curious. .. I kind of like what I have left of my hearing. even though it's not great anymore. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Luke 22:36 - And Jesus said to them, "But now, whoever has a money belt is to take it along, likewise also a bag, and whoever has no sword is to sell his coat and buy one.
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Originally Posted By rob99rt:
that's what I have a spare mag loaded up with in the top drawer of the nightstand next to me. question, though. . The supers are a lot louder than the subs, so why would you recommend those inside the house without the can? Just curious. .. I kind of like what I have left of my hearing. even though it's not great anymore. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By rob99rt:
Originally Posted By 70satvert:
Originally Posted By rob99rt:
Setup for HD... wish I had a can, but subs without the can will have to do for now http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r235/rob99rt/20130911_212034_zps0180a42d.jpg apologies for the blurry pics... not enough light in the room to take a good pic at 9:15 PM. It's only around 20" long with the stock folded, btw, so it'll fit in a lot of backpacks. http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r235/rob99rt/20130911_212120_zps7318a932.jpg I would recommend some supers for hd if you're not running a can, ideally some Barnes black tips. that's what I have a spare mag loaded up with in the top drawer of the nightstand next to me. question, though. . The supers are a lot louder than the subs, so why would you recommend those inside the house without the can? Just curious. .. I kind of like what I have left of my hearing. even though it's not great anymore. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Have you shot them side by side unsuppressed? The diffenernce in sound is negligible in my experience. The Barnes are a much more effective round. If I were in an hd situation I would rather have the better performing bullet instead of the one that may be possibly slightly quieter. Nice rifle by the way. |
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Originally Posted By 70satvert:
Have you shot them side by side unsuppressed? The diffenernce in sound is negligible in my experience. The Barnes are a much more effective round. If I were in an hd situation I would rather have the better performing bullet instead of the one that may be possibly slightly quieter. Nice rifle by the way. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 70satvert:
Originally Posted By rob99rt:
Originally Posted By 70satvert:
Originally Posted By rob99rt:
Setup for HD... wish I had a can, but subs without the can will have to do for now http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r235/rob99rt/20130911_212034_zps0180a42d.jpg apologies for the blurry pics... not enough light in the room to take a good pic at 9:15 PM. It's only around 20" long with the stock folded, btw, so it'll fit in a lot of backpacks. http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r235/rob99rt/20130911_212120_zps7318a932.jpg I would recommend some supers for hd if you're not running a can, ideally some Barnes black tips. that's what I have a spare mag loaded up with in the top drawer of the nightstand next to me. question, though. . The supers are a lot louder than the subs, so why would you recommend those inside the house without the can? Just curious. .. I kind of like what I have left of my hearing. even though it's not great anymore. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Have you shot them side by side unsuppressed? The diffenernce in sound is negligible in my experience. The Barnes are a much more effective round. If I were in an hd situation I would rather have the better performing bullet instead of the one that may be possibly slightly quieter. Nice rifle by the way. I have shot them side by side unsuppressed and there is substantial difference between the two. A subsonic 26K pop vrs a supersonic 50K bang. Load up the subs with Lehigh Defense 194gr ME's and don't worry about the sub expanding properly in a HD environment. |
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Originally Posted By talonxracer:
I have shot them side by side unsuppressed and there is substantial difference between the two. A subsonic 26K pop vrs a supersonic 50K bang. Load up the subs with Lehigh Defense 194gr ME's and don't worry about the sub expanding properly in a HD environment. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By talonxracer:
Originally Posted By 70satvert:
Originally Posted By rob99rt:
Originally Posted By 70satvert:
Originally Posted By rob99rt:
Setup for HD... wish I had a can, but subs without the can will have to do for now http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r235/rob99rt/20130911_212034_zps0180a42d.jpg apologies for the blurry pics... not enough light in the room to take a good pic at 9:15 PM. It's only around 20" long with the stock folded, btw, so it'll fit in a lot of backpacks. http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r235/rob99rt/20130911_212120_zps7318a932.jpg I would recommend some supers for hd if you're not running a can, ideally some Barnes black tips. that's what I have a spare mag loaded up with in the top drawer of the nightstand next to me. question, though. . The supers are a lot louder than the subs, so why would you recommend those inside the house without the can? Just curious. .. I kind of like what I have left of my hearing. even though it's not great anymore. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Have you shot them side by side unsuppressed? The diffenernce in sound is negligible in my experience. The Barnes are a much more effective round. If I were in an hd situation I would rather have the better performing bullet instead of the one that may be possibly slightly quieter. Nice rifle by the way. I have shot them side by side unsuppressed and there is substantial difference between the two. A subsonic 26K pop vrs a supersonic 50K bang. Load up the subs with Lehigh Defense 194gr ME's and don't worry about the sub expanding properly in a HD environment. This ^ I would use suppressed subsonic rounds for HD as well. That said, they would absolutely be of the expanding subsonic (read exspensive) variety. No way I would use something like a subsonic 220gr SMK indoors. Ideally, you just cannot beat the Barnes 110gr for HD use. Everyone agrees, they work. |
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Originally Posted By AlphaOperator: This ^ I would use suppressed subsonic rounds for HD as well. That said, they would absolutely be of the expanding subsonic (read exspensive) variety. No way I would use something like a subsonic 220gr SMK indoors. Ideally, you just cannot beat the Barnes 110gr for HD use. Everyone agrees, they work. View Quote I'd love to shoot them suppressed inside, but I don't have a .30 cal can.. only a .223 can. I did have the SBR sitting there with the 11.5" barrel and can on it, but figured that the noise level would be comparable with the 300 blackout subs unsuppressed in such a small room. Plus, it's a lot easier to swing around being so short. |
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Luke 22:36 - And Jesus said to them, "But now, whoever has a money belt is to take it along, likewise also a bag, and whoever has no sword is to sell his coat and buy one.
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Originally Posted By rob99rt:
I'd love to shoot them suppressed inside, but I don't have a .30 cal can.. only a .223 can. I did have the SBR sitting there with the 11.5" barrel and can on it, but figured that the noise level would be comparable with the 300 blackout subs unsuppressed in such a small room. Plus, it's a lot easier to swing around being so short. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By rob99rt:
Originally Posted By AlphaOperator:
This ^ I would use suppressed subsonic rounds for HD as well. That said, they would absolutely be of the expanding subsonic (read exspensive) variety. No way I would use something like a subsonic 220gr SMK indoors. Ideally, you just cannot beat the Barnes 110gr for HD use. Everyone agrees, they work. I'd love to shoot them suppressed inside, but I don't have a .30 cal can.. only a .223 can. I did have the SBR sitting there with the 11.5" barrel and can on it, but figured that the noise level would be comparable with the 300 blackout subs unsuppressed in such a small room. Plus, it's a lot easier to swing around being so short. A .300 subsonic is basically a 7.62 diameter .45 ACP with a great BC. Pretty much any supersonic centerfire rifle round is going to dominate it in terms of terminal ballistics. Even something like the 208gr AMAX leaves a gel track like a modern defesive pistol ammo round. The Lehigh stuff looks interesting but I've read some people can't get it to feed in ARs. Anyway - a 75/77gr .223, a 110gr .300 - all of those are going to be more effective than a .300 subsonic. And while the 110gr TSX will definitely get the job done, I think it penetrates like 18-21" of gel, which is over the FBI recommended maximum. The 110gr VMAX penetrates a lot less gel but looks to be on the short side of the FBI 12" minimum. Personally, if I am firing a gun in my house , I want whoever I am shooting at to feel like I am hurling thunderbolts at him - flash, noise, etc. I want my neighbors to hear it as well. |
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Originally Posted By Bartholomew_Roberts:
A .300 subsonic is basically a 7.62 diameter .45 ACP with a great BC. Pretty much any supersonic centerfire rifle round is going to dominate it in terms of terminal ballistics. Even something like the 208gr AMAX leaves a gel track like a modern defesive pistol ammo round. The Lehigh stuff looks interesting but I've read some people can't get it to feed in ARs. Anyway - a 75/77gr .223, a 110gr .300 - all of those are going to be more effective than a .300 subsonic. And while the 110gr TSX will definitely get the job done, I think it penetrates like 18-21" of gel, which is over the FBI recommended maximum. The 110gr VMAX penetrates a lot less gel but looks to be on the short side of the FBI 12" minimum. Personally, if I am firing a gun in my house , I want whoever I am shooting at to feel like I am hurling thunderbolts at him - flash, noise, etc. I want my neighbors to hear it as well. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Bartholomew_Roberts:
Originally Posted By rob99rt:
Originally Posted By AlphaOperator:
This ^ I would use suppressed subsonic rounds for HD as well. That said, they would absolutely be of the expanding subsonic (read exspensive) variety. No way I would use something like a subsonic 220gr SMK indoors. Ideally, you just cannot beat the Barnes 110gr for HD use. Everyone agrees, they work. I'd love to shoot them suppressed inside, but I don't have a .30 cal can.. only a .223 can. I did have the SBR sitting there with the 11.5" barrel and can on it, but figured that the noise level would be comparable with the 300 blackout subs unsuppressed in such a small room. Plus, it's a lot easier to swing around being so short. A .300 subsonic is basically a 7.62 diameter .45 ACP with a great BC. Pretty much any supersonic centerfire rifle round is going to dominate it in terms of terminal ballistics. Even something like the 208gr AMAX leaves a gel track like a modern defesive pistol ammo round. The Lehigh stuff looks interesting but I've read some people can't get it to feed in ARs. Anyway - a 75/77gr .223, a 110gr .300 - all of those are going to be more effective than a .300 subsonic. And while the 110gr TSX will definitely get the job done, I think it penetrates like 18-21" of gel, which is over the FBI recommended maximum. The 110gr VMAX penetrates a lot less gel but looks to be on the short side of the FBI 12" minimum. Personally, if I am firing a gun in my house , I want whoever I am shooting at to feel like I am hurling thunderbolts at him - flash, noise, etc. I want my neighbors to hear it as well. I'm picking up what you're putting down. |
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http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o531/kissmy300blkbrass/IMG_20130909_153824_175_zpsfbfced0e.jpg View Quote That is awesome. I love the shrouded can. |
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Originally Posted By dogface_313:
That is awesome. I love the shrouded can. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By dogface_313:
Originally Posted By kissmy300blkbrass:
http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o531/kissmy300blkbrass/IMG_20130909_153824_175_zpsfbfced0e.jpg That is awesome. I love the shrouded can. i just got back from my class 3 dealers house he has a range set up in his back yard we dialed in the the acog and ran some rounds through it he has different size steel plates set up at different distances he was in aww with this rifle it was pounding the targets he had the biggest shit eating grin |
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Originally Posted By kissmy300blkbrass: i just got back from my class 3 dealers house he has a range set up in his back yard we dialed in the the acog and ran some rounds through it he has different size steel plates set up at different distances he was in aww with this rifle it was pounding the targets he had the biggest shit eating grin View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By kissmy300blkbrass: Originally Posted By dogface_313: Originally Posted By kissmy300blkbrass: http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o531/kissmy300blkbrass/IMG_20130909_153824_175_zpsfbfced0e.jpg That is awesome. I love the shrouded can. i just got back from my class 3 dealers house he has a range set up in his back yard we dialed in the the acog and ran some rounds through it he has different size steel plates set up at different distances he was in aww with this rifle it was pounding the targets he had the biggest shit eating grin |
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"Jesus said, 'But now whoever has a purse or a bag, must take it and whoever does not have a sword must sell his cloak and buy one.'"
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View Quote So are those Magpul sights worth the money or are they overpriced? I'd look more into them if they were spring loaded, but still wouldn't like the $147.50 price tag on the set. |
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What size plates did you use? How far did you stretch it out? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Poppy83:
Originally Posted By kissmy300blkbrass:
Originally Posted By dogface_313:
Originally Posted By kissmy300blkbrass:
http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o531/kissmy300blkbrass/IMG_20130909_153824_175_zpsfbfced0e.jpg That is awesome. I love the shrouded can. i just got back from my class 3 dealers house he has a range set up in his back yard we dialed in the the acog and ran some rounds through it he has different size steel plates set up at different distances he was in aww with this rifle it was pounding the targets he had the biggest shit eating grin He has some 20" round plates all the way down to some 4" round plates from 10 yards out to 100 yards. Different sizes placed randomly at different distances. I mainly built this rifle for 0-100 yards but I'd have no problem stretching it out the 300 BLK acog is spot on and extremely easy to get on target. |
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Originally Posted By chevcamo:
So are those Magpul sights worth the money or are they overpriced? I'd look more into them if they were spring loaded, but still wouldn't like the $147.50 price tag on the set. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By chevcamo:
So are those Magpul sights worth the money or are they overpriced? I'd look more into them if they were spring loaded, but still wouldn't like the $147.50 price tag on the set. I like them a lot so far. I haven't be able to shoot with them yet but hope to rectify that this weekend. |
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Originally Posted By Mahamotorworks:
Completed the build today. Here it is on my SBR lower. Still have a long wait for my YHM Ti 7.62 suppressor. http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k158/Mahamotorworks/null_zps5a47362a.jpg http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k158/Mahamotorworks/null_zps7755c9b4.jpg MAHA View Quote Congrats on getting the upper done. I have to ask though, is the 762 Brake canted a little? |
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Not in the first pic. Maybe wasnt fully installed in the second?
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Originally Posted By argolfer:
Details on the upper please. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By argolfer:
Details on the upper please. Noveske Upper Noveske 10.2 barrel Centurion C4 9 inch rail BCM Charging handle and BCG MBUS pro's Tango Down Scar panels Surefire Mini-7.62 |
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View Quote This is damn sexy - i've seen the stock before too somewhere |
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Originally Posted By Sir_Peter:
This is damn sexy - i've seen the stock before too somewhere View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Sir_Peter:
This is damn sexy - i've seen the stock before too somewhere Originally Posted By saabdrifter:
Wow! lol awwww you guys for stats just for those who care.....here are the fancy parts BADASS Geissele SD trigger Troy Ambi Charging handle (it was sold to me for less than the dealer paid for it....) Norgon Ambi Mag release and an Ergo grip. Up top I have a SS match grade barrel Geissele low pro gas block (ask me about this !ugh!) PWS CQB comp and a KAC 8.5 URX III Other than that Its just a stamped lower with a regular forged upper. Lower parts kit was DD but most of it isnt there anymore lol |
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Uuuugh. I really need to pick up a BCM lower so I can throw one of those NEA stocks on mine - it would look BADASS and fit nicely under my softshell in the winter...
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I have waited probably 6 weeks if not longer for that Canadian company.
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It took around 8 weeks if I remember correctly.
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View Quote Please tell me that is a SDN-6 under there, what barrel and hand guard? I want to do exactly this |
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