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Posted: 4/26/2012 3:11:42 AM EDT
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spikes hands down
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Posted: 4/26/2012 3:20:06 AM EDT
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I'd go with the Smith. They're producing a high quality mid level gun at a decent price.
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Posted: 4/26/2012 3:22:30 AM EDT
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I can get the Smith new for 1000.00 and I can get the Spikes as listed New for 1100.00????
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Posted: 4/26/2012 3:23:49 AM EDT
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I can get the Smith new for 1000.00 and I can get the Spikes as listed New for 1100.00???? 1K seems a little high for a Smith IMO. |
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Posted: 4/26/2012 3:27:16 AM EDT
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I have and like both. Both are well built. The spec sheet is in Spkes favor however. If MPIMilspecGoldplated is what you are after go Spikes.
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Posted: 4/26/2012 3:29:28 AM EDT
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I can get the Smith new for 1000.00 and I can get the Spikes as listed New for 1100.00???? 1K seems a little high for a Smith IMO. Yes the Smith comes with Magpul front and rear sights as well. |
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Posted: 4/26/2012 4:03:20 AM EDT
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Spikes
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Posted: 4/26/2012 4:04:53 AM EDT
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I can get the Smith new for 1000.00 and I can get the Spikes as listed New for 1100.00???? 1K seems a little high for a Smith IMO. Well i think 1100 for a spikes is high  . That S&W tac is worth 1000.
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Posted: 4/26/2012 4:08:49 AM EDT
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Smith.
They don't crap on threads. Or PSA |
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Posted: 4/26/2012 4:15:36 AM EDT
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The difference to me is in the barrel. The Smith has a 4140 1:8 twist barrel. The Spikes is 4150 1:7 twist.
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Posted: 4/26/2012 4:20:31 AM EDT
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The difference to me is in the barrel. The Smith has a 4140 1:8 twist barrel. The Spikes is 4150 1:7 twist. Which is a better barrel? |
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Posted: 4/26/2012 4:40:02 AM EDT
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The difference to me is in the barrel. The Smith has a 4140 1:8 twist barrel. The Spikes is 4150 1:7 twist. Which is a better barrel? If shooting heavier or high grain bullets then the 1/7 twist is better. What do you plan on shooting? The ammo you buy at your local sporting goods store 50-70grn will shoot perfectly fine out of a 1/8 twist barrel. 75grn and + go with the 1:7 tiwst. Edit: oh also I'd choose smith over spikes.. I'd choose anything over spikes for The same reason as finslayers |
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Posted: 4/26/2012 4:42:17 AM EDT
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4150 is a higher grade steel. It's more durable, and used on military spec rifles for it's durability and longer shelf life when receiving hard usage. The 1:7 twist will handle higher loads, but so will the 1:8. In terms of use, you'd be fine with either, in terms of "better" would go to the Spikes.
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Posted: 4/26/2012 4:44:22 AM EDT
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Spikes.....
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Posted: 4/26/2012 4:45:13 AM EDT
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i own two spikes and cant be happier with them the fit and finish is amazing and their a great company to work with. to me their alot better than the smiths ive held and shot, a friend of mine bought a S&W tac and sold it to get a spikes tactical.
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Posted: 4/26/2012 4:45:28 AM EDT
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Just paper at 100 yards
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Posted: 4/26/2012 5:23:58 AM EDT
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Both are great rifles and will be awesome shooters. I would think the Spikes would have a better resale value over the Smith.
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Posted: 4/26/2012 5:35:48 AM EDT
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I can get the Smith new for 1000.00 and I can get the Spikes as listed New for 1100.00???? At these prices, I'd say get neither. less than 1k =PSA. more than 1k DD, Colt, BCM. |
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Posted: 4/26/2012 5:45:09 AM EDT
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Spikes.
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Posted: 4/26/2012 5:53:57 AM EDT
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I can get the Smith new for 1000.00 and I can get the Spikes as listed New for 1100.00???? At these prices, I'd say get neither. less than 1k =PSA. more than 1k DD, Colt, BCM. |
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Posted: 4/26/2012 6:09:17 AM EDT
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Just paper at 100 yards Get either...it TRULY doesn't matter. Both are far more than adequate for your needs. Many of the posters here OVER THINK minor differences between models and manufacturers. Get whichever one apppeal to YOU. But if it was my money I would go to a different shop...BOTH of those are higher than they should be. Be aware you can buy a Colt for a grand or a bit more. SHOP some of the AR sites online. FN in MT |
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Posted: 4/26/2012 6:22:43 AM EDT
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I can get the Smith new for 1000.00 and I can get the Spikes as listed New for 1100.00???? At these prices, I'd say get neither. less than 1k =PSA. more than 1k DD, Colt, BCM. +1 I thought smith and spikes were cheaper than 1k. I would get the smith because of the 1:8 twist. |
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Posted: 4/26/2012 6:23:12 AM EDT
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Colt 6940
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Posted: 4/26/2012 6:39:28 AM EDT
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Quoted: spikes hands down Please give some reasoning behind these recommendations beyond posting "brand X!" Also please restrict comments relevant to the functioning of the firearm, not "Spikes was mean to PSA" "Spikes as a logo that looks like a penis"
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Posted: 4/26/2012 6:59:47 AM EDT
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I have an M&P and it shoots great! Never had a malfunction. I would not take it to a competition but it is plenty accurate for my needs.
ETA: I also got $100 off with a .mil discount Total: $610
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Posted: 4/26/2012 7:02:33 AM EDT
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Spikes. does Smith and Wesson even post here?
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Posted: 4/26/2012 7:20:14 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2012 7:21:09 AM EDT
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Smith. They don't crap on threads. Or PSA what does that have to do with the gun quality? oh yeah! Nothing. 
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Posted: 4/26/2012 7:23:10 AM EDT
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I just want to get the right one for the money.
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Posted: 4/26/2012 7:27:25 AM EDT
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Smith. They don't crap on threads. Or PSA what does that have to do with the gun quality? oh yeah! Nothing. After owning a spikes and a PSA middy. For the money, the PSA is a better deal. just my $0.02 as they shoot about the exact same, shit probably parts sourced from the same place. |
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Posted: 4/26/2012 7:33:33 AM EDT
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Spikes. The few S&Ws I've picked up haven't impressed me.
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Posted: 4/26/2012 7:47:36 AM EDT
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Of the two mentioned I'd pick Spikes. Mainly because of better specs and I own a few and they have been 100%. Haven't owned a SW though. Except the .22
But as mentioned, personally I'd take PSA over both. |
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Posted: 4/26/2012 8:37:42 AM EDT
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Why the PSA?
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Posted: 4/26/2012 9:03:55 AM EDT
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spikes hands down Please give some reasoning behind these recommendations beyond posting "brand X!" Also please restrict comments relevant to the functioning of the firearm, not "Spikes was mean to PSA" "Spikes as a logo that looks like a penis" I have had both. Spikes is built better. M16 bcg higher quality barrel 1/7 twist And why is everyone so pissed about what spike said to psa? He asked a question. Ford and chevy shit on each other all the time |
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Posted: 4/26/2012 9:36:26 AM EDT
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I can get the Smith new for 1000.00 and I can get the Spikes as listed New for 1100.00???? 1K seems a little high for a Smith IMO. Yes the Smith comes with Magpul front and rear sights as well. x2
i love mine! 
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Posted: 4/26/2012 9:58:31 AM EDT
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Smith. They don't crap on threads. Or PSA Well shoot, I didn't know that made Spikes products worse. I love my Spikes lower, it has been rock solid through 2-3k rounds, so not too much yet but no problems so far. I've fired my friends M&P and it was a solid rifle as well, I just liked how my lower fit onto my BCM upper much better than the M&P. |
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Posted: 4/26/2012 10:24:06 AM EDT
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People are making to big of a deal over the spikes psa deal. It really comes down to imo in this order price specs reputation availability. And when i say reputation i dont mean spike called out psa on proof testing 6.8 barrels. I mean does the company have a reputation of reliability and customer service.
Here is my personal experience. I had a M&P15 but i wanted a full mil spec rifle. Was nothing wrong with it was a great rifle but lacked features i wanted. So then i got a spikes lower then i wanted a spikes upper to match but they are on intergalatic back order. So instead i went with a slightly more expensive but available BCM Few of my friends have complete spikes rifles if you could remove the logos you would never tell them a part from ky bcm. |
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Posted: 4/26/2012 10:30:24 AM EDT
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$1100 is too High for a spikes.....i mean they are $850ish on spikes website and they are right around $799 at all of my local dealers....I just bought a brand new colt for $1173 OTD at wal-mart.............
Edit...I didnt see the BAR rail and ctr stock and stuff |
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Posted: 4/26/2012 10:40:59 AM EDT
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$1100 is too High for a spikes.....i mean they are $850ish on spikes website and they are right around $799 at all of my local dealers....I just bought a brand new colt for $1173 OTD at wal-mart............. Edit...I didnt see the BAR rail and ctr stock and stuff If you factor in the bar rail ctr and anything else that it might have 1100 isnt too bad. Thats about what they sell for at spikes |
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Posted: 4/26/2012 10:53:30 AM EDT
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Still on the fence, but leaning towards the Spikes...
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Posted: 4/26/2012 10:55:31 AM EDT
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$1100 is too High for a spikes.....i mean they are $850ish on spikes website and they are right around $799 at all of my local dealers....I just bought a brand new colt for $1173 OTD at wal-mart............. Edit...I didnt see the BAR rail and ctr stock and stuff If you factor in the bar rail ctr and anything else that it might have 1100 isnt too bad. Thats about what they sell for at spikes That price is out the door with all tax's and fee's for ATF checks.... |
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Posted: 4/26/2012 11:05:52 AM EDT
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The difference to me is in the barrel. The Smith has a 4140 1:8 twist barrel. The Spikes is 4150 1:7 twist. Smith & Wesson offers sereval different types of barrels from 4140 to 4150 to SS |
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Posted: 4/26/2012 11:17:42 AM EDT
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Spikes = PSA rant
Smith= "sell out" deal with ATF Pick your poison. Honestly, you can't go wrong with either Spike's is better when it comes to specs, but for killing paper that wont matter. |
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Posted: 4/26/2012 11:24:09 AM EDT
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I grew up about 10 miles away from S&W and their revolvers are legendary.
My K-frame target is a fine piece that shoots better than I can point it. IMO, their AR's are just average. I would go with a Spikes. |
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Posted: 4/26/2012 11:25:27 AM EDT
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Op both of the rifles are quality if the MP is $1000 and the spikes is 1100 compare the specs. The spikes is a mil spec rifle the MP is not. Does that matter to you? If not then it doesn't really matter which rifle you get either will make you happy.
It wasn't long ago spikes was the flavor of the month, before that it was bcm now it is psa. Psa makes a mil spec rifle too but they are doing it cheaper than everyone else for base rifles. And don't listen to the people bashing spikes because of what he said about psa. Spikes personal opinion of his competition does not make spikes rifles lesser quality. If anything people should like when competing companies bicker it usually produces a better cheaper product |
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Posted: 4/26/2012 11:31:38 AM EDT
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Smith. They don't crap on threads. Or PSA Well shoot, I didn't know that made Spikes products worse. I love my Spikes lower, it has been rock solid through 2-3k rounds, so not too much yet but no problems so far. I've fired my friends M&P and it was a solid rifle as well, I just liked how my lower fit onto my BCM upper much better than the M&P. your spikes lower is most likely made at the same place as most other lowers, I believe at one time they were made by Aero Precision. My complete spikes rifle has seen 3-4k rounds, and my PSA actually runs better, I should attribute that to the rifle buffer though. |
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Posted: 4/26/2012 12:33:20 PM EDT
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i cant speak to spikes, never had one or shot one. But i have a smith and its great, not a single complaint
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Posted: 4/26/2012 1:13:12 PM EDT
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Smith.
Or Rock RIver Operator II for 1000$ |
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Posted: 4/26/2012 3:32:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2012 3:47:45 PM EDT
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Well, as you can see, those that own either are pretty passionate about their brand. Just comes down to what specs are important to you and who has it. Both have lifetime warranties and both are solid choices. Both are also modular and accept accessories and parts from the same manufacturers. You really can't go wrong. Also depends on your timeframe and what's available.
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