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Posted: 8/25/2015 9:28:38 PM EDT
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Wonder what bolt mods it requires. Unless you have a bunch of mp5 magazines, I don't see the appeal other than aesthetics. POF mp5 mags are $30+ and surplus HK run the gambit but larger online stores have them at $60 plus. But you can do better time to time. Wonder how it will run on the MKE polymer mags or the U.S. Made ones.
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18.99 for korean MP5 mags, probably have to try a few to make sure they work, but I think this will look pretty cool.
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I saw this too. Not finished with my Colt build and I want this now! :)
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It's about time someone did this. Colt pattern mags are running $30, used MP5 mags are/were $35, $50 new. I have 2 Colt pattern and around 25 MP5 mags, so an AR/mp5 combo makes perfect sense to me. As far as the cheap Korean mags, I only have (2) but both of them run great! Hopefully the Q model will be affordable
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Now make one to take MP5-10 mags so I don't have to
That way I get BHO (unlike greasegun) And easier feed for DI than a Glock. |
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Glock mags are still more plentiful, struggling to see the point of a gun which uses very expensive magazines, and as I can see it, no advantages over Glock.
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Well.....glock mags are angled back, colt mags are straight, and now we have Hk curved forward.............now were complete with mag shapes.
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Interesting, but if I've already got MP5 mags I've already got an MP5......... Why would I consider building a blowback 9mm AR?
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The advantage would be for someone who already has a lot of MP-5 mags or wants metal mags rather than plastic. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Glock mags are still more plentiful, struggling to see the point of a gun which uses very expensive magazines, and as I can see it, no advantages over Glock. The advantage would be for someone who already has a lot of MP-5 mags or wants metal mags rather than plastic. Bingo. I'm trying to keep my assortment of firearms simple so I don't have two dozen types of magazines and zero spare parts for any gun. I wonder if a typical ar 9mm bolt will work or if it has to be modified like the glock bolts. |
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The advantage would be for someone who already has a lot of MP-5 mags or wants metal mags rather than plastic. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Glock mags are still more plentiful, struggling to see the point of a gun which uses very expensive magazines, and as I can see it, no advantages over Glock. The advantage would be for someone who already has a lot of MP-5 mags or wants metal mags rather than plastic. Or much easier to load double-position feed magazines. |
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Quoted: Interesting, but if I've already got MP5 mags I've already got an MP5......... Why would I consider building a blowback 9mm AR? View Quote Because you don't have one yet? Because you may not want to break out your $30k machine gun to go to the range to shoot a 9mm rifle when you can shoot your sub $1k semi auto gun... especially if your shooting location doesn't allow full auto. As previously mentioned.... Because you don't want to have multiple types of mags on hand that can be mixed up. Because MP-5 mags are a whole lot easier to load than Glock mags. Note: I want to get a 9mm AR but I'm undecided on the mag issue as I have both a MP-5 and 9mm Glocks so I already have mags for both. I'm leaning towards the MP-5 mags because I have more of those than Glock mags, because the angle of the mag sticking out of the gun looks weird and for the reasons mentioned above. Anybody make a 3 lug 9mm barrel? |
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Why this QC10 configuration?
I have a HK94 clone, so i have the mags already and dont own a Glock or Colt SMG firearms. Also, the MP5 mag shape is the most attractive to me of the three options. You already have an HK94, why would you want this? Because I want the ability to use a Slide Fire stock!!! Plus my clone is fullsize, This gives me a chance at a "K" style gun. But you wont have last round BHO, doesn't that suck? Neither does a MP5, i'll just need to get a BAD lever so the manual of arms are similar. |
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Interesting, but if I've already got MP5 mags I've already got an MP5......... Why would I consider building a blowback 9mm AR? View Quote Because you don't have one yet? Because you may not want to break out your $30k machine gun to go to the range to shoot a 9mm rifle when you can shoot your sub $1k semi auto gun... especially if your shooting location doesn't allow full auto. As previously mentioned.... Because you don't want to have multiple types of mags on hand that can be mixed up. Because MP-5 mags are a whole lot easier to load than Glock mags. Note: I want to get a 9mm AR but I'm undecided on the mag issue as I have both a MP-5 and 9mm Glocks so I already have mags for both. I'm leaning towards the MP-5 mags because I have more of those than Glock mags, because the angle of the mag sticking out of the gun looks weird and for the reasons mentioned above. Anybody make a 3 lug 9mm barrel? View Quote Tros, in two sizes |
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Interesting, but if I've already got MP5 mags I've already got an MP5......... Why would I consider building a blowback 9mm AR? Because you don't have one yet? Because you may not want to break out your $30k machine gun to go to the range to shoot a 9mm rifle when you can shoot your sub $1k semi auto gun... especially if your shooting location doesn't allow full auto. As previously mentioned.... Because you don't want to have multiple types of mags on hand that can be mixed up. Because MP-5 mags are a whole lot easier to load than Glock mags. Note: I want to get a 9mm AR but I'm undecided on the mag issue as I have both a MP-5 and 9mm Glocks so I already have mags for both. I'm leaning towards the MP-5 mags because I have more of those than Glock mags, because the angle of the mag sticking out of the gun looks weird and for the reasons mentioned above. Anybody make a 3 lug 9mm barrel? Tros, in two sizes Yep 5 and 9". Also sells 3lug thread on adapters. |
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I want one, I will have one, but I will have to keep it in PA
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I just heard about this...but went ahead with the Colt version. Partly aesthetics (I like the look of my MP5 mags in my MP5 clones, but prefer the straight mags on this) and also that the Colt version has the last round bolt hold open, something the MP5 version lacks. I just asked on the TROS 3-lug barrels and looks like the next run is in about 6-8 weeks.
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I just heard about this...but went ahead with the Colt version. Partly aesthetics (I like the look of my MP5 mags in my MP5 clones, but prefer the straight mags on this) and also that the Colt version has the last round bolt hold open, something the MP5 version lacks. I just asked on the TROS 3-lug barrels and looks like the next run is in about 6-8 weeks. View Quote There is a new 9" one on GB now with 59 minutes left for $240.00 and no bids if anyone is on and wants one. |
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i suppose i could also machine a magwell to take mp5 mags for my hydra.
but i also love an excuse to get another rifle. |
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I finished my DDLES GSF 9mm SBR build last month that I started on in Nov. 2014.
....and now this , damn |
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That is drop dead sexy right there....
And to think, I was THIS close to pulling the trigger on one of their colt-mag lowers. This would make a nice range toy paired up with an MKE |
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I have been waiting for the prototype since Dec! I'm very happy to see it and it LOOKS AWESOME! I will pick one up as soon as they are released. I wonder if QC10 can make a mp5 magazine follower that will allow for last round hold back?
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Has anyone heard when these may be available? View Quote I would think its probably going to be a month or two, if there are no gremlins in the lower. They said the prototype lower ran great so that is a very good sign. I really want to see the mag release and the internals of the lower. I will be purchasing one of these lower and one of the uppers when they are released. Maybe we can get Q10 to chime in and let us know more specifics. |
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Why this QC10 configuration? I have a HK94 clone, so i have the mags already and dont own a Glock or Colt SMG firearms. Also, the MP5 mag shape is the most attractive to me of the three options. You already have an HK94, why would you want this? Because I want the ability to use a Slide Fire stock!!! Plus my clone is fullsize, This gives me a chance at a "K" style gun. But you wont have last round BHO, doesn't that suck? Neither does a MP5, i'll just need to get a BAD lever so the manual of arms are similar. View Quote I wouldn't put a slide fire stock on a blow back AR, risk an out of battery discharge. |
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Even though a Glock lower makes logical sense for me (common mag style to side arm), I would FO on the MP5 lower. Mag angle looks so much better.
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Even though a Glock lower makes logical sense for me (common mag style to side arm), I would FO on the MP5 lower. Mag angle looks so much better. View Quote How it looks isn't relevant to me. The fact that MP5 magazines are built to feed a SMG matters. Double-stack mags are always easier to load and they tend to feed better too. And even though aftermarket Glock magazines seem to have issues staying locked into my QC10 GSF lower, the MP5 magazine catch system shouldn't be a problem at all. Now here's a question: Are MP5/40 magazines similar enough in size the MP5 9mm mags that they would fit in the same magazine well? I can't find anything on this online... |
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MP5/40 mags are completely different and are much larger than 9mm MP5 magazines.
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MP5/40 mags are completely different and are much larger than 9mm MP5 magazines. That's why i want them to build a MP5/10 mag lower next That would be sweet with a DI upper and maybe a 8-10" barrel. Too bad the mags are so pricey. |
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I wouldn't put a slide fire stock on a blow back AR, risk an out of battery discharge. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why this QC10 configuration? I have a HK94 clone, so i have the mags already and dont own a Glock or Colt SMG firearms. Also, the MP5 mag shape is the most attractive to me of the three options. You already have an HK94, why would you want this? Because I want the ability to use a Slide Fire stock!!! Plus my clone is fullsize, This gives me a chance at a "K" style gun. But you wont have last round BHO, doesn't that suck? Neither does a MP5, i'll just need to get a BAD lever so the manual of arms are similar. I wouldn't put a slide fire stock on a blow back AR, risk an out of battery discharge. does not the carrier block the firing pin from the hammer lest the hammer is in battery.? |
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Interesting, but if I've already got MP5 mags I've already got an MP5......... Why would I consider building a blowback 9mm AR? Maybe I have a RDIAS to go with my Fleming wear and two MG's are better than one. Also Colt pattern 9mm mags suck compared to MP5 magazines. |
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Maybe I have a RDIAS to go with my Fleming wear and two MG's are better than one. Also Colt pattern 9mm mags suck compared to MP5 magazines. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Interesting, but if I've already got MP5 mags I've already got an MP5......... Why would I consider building a blowback 9mm AR? Maybe I have a RDIAS to go with my Fleming wear and two MG's are better than one. Also Colt pattern 9mm mags suck compared to MP5 magazines. do they? Even actual colt mags? |
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I always use a mag lula for my cot mags, but I've never felt the need for HK mags. And HK mags have never lost rounds in my range bag like colt mags have.
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does not the carrier block the firing pin from the hammer lest the hammer is in battery.? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why this QC10 configuration? I have a HK94 clone, so i have the mags already and dont own a Glock or Colt SMG firearms. Also, the MP5 mag shape is the most attractive to me of the three options. You already have an HK94, why would you want this? Because I want the ability to use a Slide Fire stock!!! Plus my clone is fullsize, This gives me a chance at a "K" style gun. But you wont have last round BHO, doesn't that suck? Neither does a MP5, i'll just need to get a BAD lever so the manual of arms are similar. I wouldn't put a slide fire stock on a blow back AR, risk an out of battery discharge. does not the carrier block the firing pin from the hammer lest the hammer is in battery.? Good point. I read on a popular Maryland based gun forum a post from a gunsmith, or someone who claimed to be one, who said out of battery discharge was a risk in a 9mm AR. Would not surprise me if the guy had no idea what he was talking about. |
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the firing pin hit the primer or maybe some part of the bolt when the cartridge got jammed??
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more i think about this the mmore it seems tarded. whole point of a 9mm ar is to be an easy conversion of a gun you already happen to have, maybe whilst deployed or so you can make it work w your RR or SBR etc. but it is a compromise w itss blowback function w its heavy recoil, broken hammer pins and bolt catches etc. a mp5 is better in every way than a blowback ar w mp5 mags. MP5 is quieter, softer , more reliable. a big pile of mp5 mags is a good reason to by an mp5, not make a new dedicated complete weapon AR lower.
now if someonw made 9mm ar upper w the delayed blowback id be all over it like white on rice |
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more i think about this the mmore it seems tarded. whole point of a 9mm ar is to be an easy conversion of a gun you already happen to have, maybe whilst deployed or so you can make it work w your RR or SBR etc. but it is a compromise w itss blowback function w its heavy recoil, broken hammer pins and bolt catches etc. a mp5 is better in every way than a blowback ar w mp5 mags. MP5 is quieter, softer , more reliable. a big pile of mp5 mags is a good reason to by an mp5, not make a new dedicated complete weapon AR lower. now if someonw made 9mm ar upper w the delayed blowback id be all over it like white on rice View Quote But how are you supposed to hang your 3ft of rail with redundant optics, lights, lasers, grip pods, match triggers and magpul goodies off of an MP5? |
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Quoted: But how are you supposed to hang your 3ft of rail with redundant optics, lights, lasers, grip pods, match triggers and magpul goodies off of an MP5? View Quote http://store.commandarms.com/products/HX3SD.html |
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Quoted: But how are you supposed to hang your 3ft of rail with redundant optics, lights, lasers, grip pods, match triggers and magpul goodies off of an MP5? http://store.commandarms.com/products/HX3SD.html I knew it was coming before i hit "submit" |
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RDTCU...you laid out a pile with this one and stepped in it. He really got you on that one...although it is not quite 3 ft long.
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Quoted: But how are you supposed to hang your 3ft of rail with redundant optics, lights, lasers, grip pods, match triggers and magpul goodies off of an MP5? http://store.commandarms.com/products/HX3SD.html |
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RDTCU...you laid out a pile with this one and stepped in it. He really got you on that one...although it is not quite 3 ft long. Off this topic, but did you ever get your 45 acp AR running well? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
RDTCU...you laid out a pile with this one and stepped in it. He really got you on that one...although it is not quite 3 ft long. Off this topic, but did you ever get your 45 acp AR running well? Quoted:
Quoted: But how are you supposed to hang your 3ft of rail with redundant optics, lights, lasers, grip pods, match triggers and magpul goodies off of an MP5? http://store.commandarms.com/products/HX3SD.html Pretty well http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_4/666635_Folding_DI_45_SBR__Round_2_.html&page=4 |
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RDTCU...you laid out a pile with this one and stepped in it. He really got you on that one...although it is not quite 3 ft long. Off this topic, but did you ever get your 45 acp AR running well? Quoted:
Quoted: But how are you supposed to hang your 3ft of rail with redundant optics, lights, lasers, grip pods, match triggers and magpul goodies off of an MP5? http://store.commandarms.com/products/HX3SD.html Pretty well http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_4/666635_Folding_DI_45_SBR__Round_2_.html&page=4 an upper similar to yoursbut chambered in 9mm on one of these lowers built as a pistol would be the perfect pistol to compliment the mp5 clone. |
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