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Posted: 7/22/2015 2:27:07 PM EDT

I was just notified that Black Hole will be producing 6.5 Grendel barrels with the SAAMI chamber. (0.136 bolt depth) They are updating their web site.

Prices will be the same as the 264 LBC. They will be selling them with bolts if you want it fitted to the chamber. Bolts will run around $70.00. Offerings initially will be limited to 18 and 20” STANDARD PROFILE mid and rifle length gas target crown or threaded. Other profiles etc. will be added shortly.

They said to contact them directly if you have questions

Greg

Posted: 7/22/2015 2:58:46 PM EDT

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Thanks, Greg! Excellent news.

Posted: 7/22/2015 3:18:16 PM EDT

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That is some of the best news I've heard all week.

Posted: 7/22/2015 4:26:16 PM EDT

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could someone tell me the the difference with these are other companies 6.5g
i havent built one yet and would like to know the differences in bolt depths etc.

, also if anyone has experience with 7.62x39 bolt depth differences i would like the info as well.

Posted: 7/22/2015 4:47:54 PM EDT

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could someone tell me the the difference with these are other companies 6.5g
i havent built one yet and would like to know the differences in bolt depths etc.

, also if anyone has experience with 7.62x39 bolt depth differences i would like the info as well.

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SAAMI'D Grendel chambers are supposed to be all the same barring minor tolerance issues. The chamber will be the same on this as if you bought it from Alexander, PF or a myriad of others.

The Grendel has the deeper bolt face. Many think the bolts are superior regarding breakage. LBC and other variants use the 7.62 X39 bolt face/depth. The chamber is cut 0.010 deeper for them. More case support results. Based on no bolt breakage in thousands of rounds I believe it is a moot point either way.

The G. has a larger case neck area and a double angle on the leade. LBC is a tad tighter on the beck with a 1.5 degree leade.

Greg

Posted: 7/22/2015 10:51:48 PM EDT

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I cant say enough good things about my BHW 20" grendel, it will shoot about 1/2 moa for a great price, If I wasnt broke I would be buying a 260 or 6.5 creedmore barrel with the 20% off going on right now.

edited: to say mine is a 264lbc chamber but the grendel chamber should be just as good or better

Posted: 7/23/2015 7:41:51 PM EDT

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This just might be what puts me over the edge for a 6.5 build... I've got an upper, lower, BCG, and LPK just sitting doing nothing.

Posted: 7/23/2015 7:51:07 PM EDT

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This just might be what puts me over the edge for a 6.5 build... I've got an upper, lower, BCG, and LPK just sitting doing nothing.

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I understand that. I have the first two off the lathe reserved. I can't wait to shoot it along with my LBC.

Greg

Posted: 7/23/2015 7:59:25 PM EDT

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I understand that. I have the first two off the lathe reserved. I can't wait to shoot it along with my LBC.

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This just might be what puts me over the edge for a 6.5 build... I've got an upper, lower, BCG, and LPK just sitting doing nothing.

I understand that. I have the first two off the lathe reserved. I can't wait to shoot it along with my LBC.

Greg

I've been quite pleased with the two BHW .223 barrels, one 18" the other 20", so BHW would be the way I go. There's nothing on the site now, when are they going to list them, any idea?

Posted: 7/23/2015 8:04:52 PM EDT

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I've been quite pleased with the two BHW .223 barrels, one 18" the other 20", so BHW would be the way I go. There's nothing on the site now, when are they going to list them, any idea?

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This just might be what puts me over the edge for a 6.5 build... I've got an upper, lower, BCG, and LPK just sitting doing nothing.

I understand that. I have the first two off the lathe reserved. I can't wait to shoot it along with my LBC.

Greg

I've been quite pleased with the two BHW .223 barrels, one 18" the other 20", so BHW would be the way I go. There's nothing on the site now, when are they going to list them, any idea?

I'm talking to them as I type this. I suspect less than 48 hours. hang in there.

Greg

Posted: 7/24/2015 9:52:19 AM EDT

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Black Hole Weaponry barrels are top notch.

My 7mm08 barrel for my AR10 build shoots 0.5 MOA and I haven't even tried load development for it. I just had some rounds already loaded for my bolt gun and was quite surprised how well they shot.

Posted: 7/28/2015 4:33:30 PM EDT

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Grendels just went up on the sales site. 18 & 20" chose your profile etc. Price is super right now. No bolts in house yet but they will be coming.

Greg

Posted: 7/28/2015 6:17:31 PM EDT

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Just a heads up on bolts. I just emailed Young Manufacturing and they are making bolts now with a .136 depth.

Posted: 7/28/2015 6:27:09 PM EDT

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good

Posted: 7/28/2015 7:41:53 PM EDT

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According to BHW's page, both the 20" andthe 18" barrel ship with their .136 headspaced bolt... That makes the price even more enticing!

Posted: 7/28/2015 7:50:17 PM EDT

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According to BHW's page, both the 20" andthe 18" barrel ship with their .136 headspaced bolt... That makes the price even more enticing!

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They are updating the site and just added the bolt. New pricing has not been up loaded. The bolt will be about $70.00 but with a 20% off sale going until 7-31-15 it wil be down around $260.00 or so.

PRICES

20" is $349.95 18" is $329.95.

Greg

Posted: 7/28/2015 9:32:55 PM EDT

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Just ordered an 18"

Posted: 7/28/2015 10:02:26 PM EDT

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Any word on a 16"? Is a SBR barrel like an 11" or 10.5" possible?

Posted: 7/28/2015 10:12:12 PM EDT

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20" ordered.

Posted: 7/28/2015 10:31:24 PM EDT

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On down the road yes. It will be a while on them.

Greg

Posted: 7/28/2015 11:02:40 PM EDT

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Will the extensions for these Grendel barrels have M4 feed ramps?

Posted: 7/28/2015 11:42:54 PM EDT

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Greg

Posted: 7/29/2015 1:26:26 PM EDT

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They are updating the site and just added the bolt. New pricing has not been up loaded. The bolt will be about $70.00 but with a 20% off sale going until 7-31-15 it wil be down around $260.00 or so.

PRICES

20" is $349.95 18" is $329.95.

Greg

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According to BHW's page, both the 20" andthe 18" barrel ship with their .136 headspaced bolt... That makes the price even more enticing!

They are updating the site and just added the bolt. New pricing has not been up loaded. The bolt will be about $70.00 but with a 20% off sale going until 7-31-15 it wil be down around $260.00 or so.

PRICES

20" is $349.95 18" is $329.95.

Greg

I wish I'd ordered a barrel when I looked at that page. The price was $249...

Their pages still say the ship with the bolt.

Posted: 7/29/2015 1:50:53 PM EDT

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I wish I'd ordered a barrel when I looked at that page. The price was $249...

Their pages still say the ship with the bolt.

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According to BHW's page, both the 20" andthe 18" barrel ship with their .136 headspaced bolt... That makes the price even more enticing!

They are updating the site and just added the bolt. New pricing has not been up loaded. The bolt will be about $70.00 but with a 20% off sale going until 7-31-15 it wil be down around $260.00 or so.

PRICES

20" is $349.95 18" is $329.95.

Greg

I wish I'd ordered a barrel when I looked at that page. The price was $249...

Their pages still say the ship with the bolt.

Yes they do say that. The price now reflects the additional fitted bolt. With the 20% off the price is still way below $300.00.

Greg

Posted: 7/29/2015 4:25:44 PM EDT

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I'm getting the new Ruger Precision Rifle in 6.5CM this Friday, if not for that, I'd be in for the 18" barrel/bolt combo.

Posted: 7/29/2015 5:04:08 PM EDT

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Yes they do say that. The price now reflects the additional fitted bolt. With the 20% off the price is still way below $300.00.

Greg

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According to BHW's page, both the 20" andthe 18" barrel ship with their .136 headspaced bolt... That makes the price even more enticing!

They are updating the site and just added the bolt. New pricing has not been up loaded. The bolt will be about $70.00 but with a 20% off sale going until 7-31-15 it wil be down around $260.00 or so.

PRICES

20" is $349.95 18" is $329.95.

Greg

I wish I'd ordered a barrel when I looked at that page. The price was $249...

Their pages still say the ship with the bolt.

Yes they do say that. The price now reflects the additional fitted bolt. With the 20% off the price is still way below $300.00.

Greg

I wasn't sure your mention of the $70 bolt meant "additional cost" or was the reason for the price adjustment. Thanks for the clarification.

Posted: 7/29/2015 10:07:22 PM EDT

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might need to snag one of these for a future build. if they shoot as good as u guys say, sounds like a great deal

my 12 inch SBR Grendel probably needs a big brother. thinking 18 inch midlength

Posted: 7/30/2015 2:23:50 AM EDT

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18" RLG is tempting

Posted: 7/31/2015 7:21:23 PM EDT

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might need to snag one of these for a future build. if they shoot as good as u guys say, sounds like a great deal

my 12 inch SBR Grendel probably needs a big brother. thinking 18 inch midlength

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My BHW barreled 7mm08 did this. I've replicated this on 2 other range trips after this. 100 yard 5 shot group. Both of these groups were shot back to back without much time for the barrel to cool between shots.

I'll definitely look to BHW for my barrels from now on.

Posted: 8/1/2015 2:04:20 PM EDT

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I hate this place.

20 in plain jane ordered.

At least I have a spare upper/lower laying around. Don't know how I'll afford the other parts but at least there is always money in the banana stand.

Posted: 8/1/2015 5:53:44 PM EDT

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You were one of many ordered this past week. They are pretty excited about this one up there.

Greg

Posted: 8/1/2015 8:23:54 PM EDT

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any chance on getting an "extension" on the sale? I missed it by a day it appears....

Posted: 8/1/2015 8:33:45 PM EDT

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I have no idea but I know that Black Friday is just around the corner..

Greg

Posted: 8/1/2015 8:54:28 PM EDT

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I have no idea but I know that Black Friday is just around the corner..

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any chance on getting an "extension" on the sale? I missed it by a day it appears....

I have no idea but I know that Black Friday is just around the corner..

Greg

gotcha...thanks

Posted: 8/2/2015 3:06:54 PM EDT

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This is great for the guys that don't reload but I think I'll be sticking with my BHW 6.5 x 43 (6.5 x 6.8), what the Grendel wants to be when it grows up. Since my 6.5x43 I don't think I have even shot my Grendel.

Posted: 8/2/2015 3:13:57 PM EDT

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This is great for the guys that don't reload but I think I'll be sticking with my BHW 6.5 x 43, what the Grendel wants to be when it grows up. Since my 6.5x43 I don't think I have even shot my Grendel.

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I shoot 'em all. They all are special to me.....

Greg

Posted: 8/2/2015 3:37:36 PM EDT

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You don't see too many of these in 6.5 Grendel. Seems to be more of a 3-gun thing in 5.56. Are there any reliability issues with rife gas in a 18" Grendel barrel?

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Posted: 8/2/2015 3:55:57 PM EDT

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got a link or info on what a 6.5- 43 is. handloader here and longtime itch for a grendel , nice to see the development of many different rounds developed for the ar-15 platform.just went to the bhw website for a quick look and didnt see any kind of rough ballistic spec info.

Posted: 8/2/2015 5:56:13 PM EDT

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It's a 6.8 spc necked down. Look at the bhw board. Ar15performance also has another variant as well.

Posted: 8/2/2015 6:37:19 PM EDT

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got a link or info on what a 6.5- 43 is. handloader here and longtime itch for a grendel , nice to see the development of many different rounds developed for the ar-15 platform.just went to the bhw website for a quick look and didnt see any kind of rough ballistic spec info.

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Try this for the ProBoards for BHW : BHW Also AR15ARMORY has a BHW area.

We call it the 6.5X6.8. Loaded ammunition is available from Tactical Ammunition. Dies are Redding 6.8's with bushings or CH4D makes a standard sizer type.

Greg

Posted: 8/2/2015 6:42:08 PM EDT

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You don't see too many of these in 6.5 Grendel. Seems to be more of a 3-gun thing in 5.56. Are there any reliability issues with rife gas in a 18" Grendel barrel?

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18" RLG is tempting

You don't see too many of these in 6.5 Grendel. Seems to be more of a 3-gun thing in 5.56. Are there any reliability issues with rife gas in a 18" Grendel barrel?

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Many guys like the RLG 18" for softer shooting. Personally I feel they are ragged edge in some cases for reliability. I don't shoot 18" rifle gas guns for that reason.

Greg

Posted: 8/2/2015 8:03:35 PM EDT

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Many guys like the RLG 18" for softer shooting. Personally I feel they are ragged edge in some cases for reliability. I don't shoot 18" rifle gas guns for that reason.

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18" RLG is tempting

You don't see too many of these in 6.5 Grendel. Seems to be more of a 3-gun thing in 5.56. Are there any reliability issues with rife gas in a 18" Grendel barrel?

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Many guys like the RLG 18" for softer shooting. Personally I feel they are ragged edge in some cases for reliability. I don't shoot 18" rifle gas guns for that reason.

Greg

I've heard that, as well, but the 18" MLG BHW sold me last month has been nothing but fun and frolicking. No teething pains, whatsoever. My 22", on the other hand, tested my patience, until I straightened out some gas issues and a tweaked upper receiver (caused additional friction on the BCG).

Posted: 8/2/2015 8:07:48 PM EDT

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I've heard that, as well, but the 18" MLG BHW sold me last month has been nothing but fun and frolicking. No teething pains, whatsoever. My 22", on the other hand, test my patience, until I straightened out some gas issues and a tweaked upper receiver (caused additional friction on the BCG).

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18" RLG is tempting

You don't see too many of these in 6.5 Grendel. Seems to be more of a 3-gun thing in 5.56. Are there any reliability issues with rife gas in a 18" Grendel barrel?

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Many guys like the RLG 18" for softer shooting. Personally I feel they are ragged edge in some cases for reliability. I don't shoot 18" rifle gas guns for that reason.

Greg

I've heard that, as well, but the 18" MLG BHW sold me last month has been nothing but fun and frolicking. No teething pains, whatsoever. My 22", on the other hand, test my patience, until I straightened out some gas issues and a tweaked upper receiver (caused additional friction on the BCG).

Yep, most run but you know how it is when you are the Conductor on the train. The first time it jumps the tracks all hell breaks loose and the barrel is blamed vs other things. I've dealt with guys that can't get an AR10 to run because they refuse to do anything to magazines etc. Those big guys are picky no matter what anyone says.

As for me I don't have any issues running a mid-gas on anything that is 18". Al my 20's are rifle.

Greg

Posted: 9/3/2015 8:38:51 PM EDT

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I got a shipping notification today. Ordered on 7/28

Posted: 9/3/2015 8:46:31 PM EDT

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That's great. Mine will be along directly. I'll have to make do with the seven I have accumulated in the past few months. ..lol

Greg

Posted: 9/4/2015 9:29:02 PM EDT

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Any 24" options in the future. I know a guy who would love one in 24 and I could use one for a good Christmas gift.

Posted: 9/4/2015 10:03:22 PM EDT

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I'm pretty sure they will be doing longer ones in the near future. The initial push was to get the more popular lengths in the hands of as many shooters as possible.

Greg