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Posted: 12/19/2009 5:55:47 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/19/2009 5:55:47 PM EST by Tango7]
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 7:40:51 PM EST
Tagged for later reading
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 7:44:45 PM EST
Damn.
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 7:45:20 PM EST
OST

HH
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 7:46:28 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/29/2009 8:03:25 PM EST by omega62]
I was never a Marine, but I am guessing that at least up until recently (perhaps), the basic rifle training given to Marines hadn't changed much in several decades, and going back to the time when the "gravel belly" generals (i.e., adherents to the main battle rifle/long range marksmanship school of infantry thought) held sway in the Pentagon.

Whereas the main battle rifle concept gave way to the assault rifle concept when the Pentagon finally embraced the latter in the early 1960s, it still sounds like the training doctrine (at least for non-highly specialized warriors) is stuck back in the MBR era.

This story certainly reinforces that idea, and the need for change.
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 7:47:26 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/29/2009 7:50:15 PM EST by valheru21]
Good read. Owning a badass rifle doesn't make you a badass... just like flying a fighter doesn't make you the Red Baron. You MUST practice. Personally, I think it is absurd that many military people (officers AND enlisted) are too caught up in the general paperwork and management of the bureaucracy of the military that we forget to be (and teach others how to be) soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines (which REQUIRES hours of practice for combat every day)... Navy/Army/Marine Corps Knowledge Online, anyone?
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 7:48:52 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 7:49:28 PM EST
Truly heartbreaking and inspiring.
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 7:51:05 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 7:52:38 PM EST
Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:
It should be noted that because of incidents like the one that injured RetreatHell, the military is trying to do a better job of training. It's just unfortunate that it takes lessons learned in blood to change the way things are done.


SOP's are written in blood... usually not the blood of our enemies.
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 7:54:21 PM EST
wow, what a lesson. that's a man who has his head together.
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 7:54:26 PM EST
Fuck.
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 7:56:13 PM EST
I'm pretty much speechless. Amazing.
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 7:56:48 PM EST
Words of wisdom.

Semper fi.
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 7:57:05 PM EST
Good read.
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 7:58:12 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 7:58:17 PM EST
tag

Link Posted: 10/29/2009 8:00:07 PM EST
That's a no-shit AAR for sure. Many lessons were learned on both sides after this action. We had to train on the fly to adapt to this asymmetrical warfare.

God bless the Marine Corps.


Link Posted: 10/29/2009 8:00:16 PM EST
Tag for reading at home.
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 8:02:53 PM EST

Great post and lessons!

I've taken pistol and carbine courses at Sigarms Academy and everything he describes in the article is stressed.

I take martial arts and there are a lot of crossover lessons like scanning your environment, keep moving and economy of movement ie. what's the simplest/fastest/most efficient way of doing something.
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 8:03:22 PM EST
I really, really need to take a class....
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 8:03:31 PM EST
Great post . Sorry he had to pay the price for it. Thanks.
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 8:03:55 PM EST
tag
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 8:06:46 PM EST
wow what a story, great post very informative.
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 8:07:36 PM EST
tag
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 8:07:38 PM EST
Wow. Great post, OP! Thanks for putting that up here, and thanks to that motivated Devil Dog for what he did––and what he is still going through and will go through for the rest of his life––for us all.
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 8:12:27 PM EST
wow

I thank that soldier for his sacrifice and will take his advice to heart.
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 8:12:45 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/29/2009 8:12:56 PM EST by Kuraki]
Wise words. Thanks for reposting here JW.
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 8:13:13 PM EST
Good read.
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 8:14:15 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 8:14:33 PM EST
Thank you.
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 8:15:05 PM EST
Originally Posted By GhostRing:
Truly heartbreaking and inspiring.


Yes, this.
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 8:15:06 PM EST
Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:
I've thought long and hard about reproducing that post here, but I think it's too valuable a lesson learned at too high a price not to.


you made the right decision. thank you, and thanks to him.

Link Posted: 10/29/2009 8:15:09 PM EST


Link Posted: 10/29/2009 8:18:58 PM EST
Semper Fi...... yep...... Semper Fi......


Link Posted: 10/29/2009 8:21:07 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/29/2009 8:22:03 PM EST by lincolndz]
That is a great post. Thank you for posting it and thank you to the Marine who sacrificed his ability to walk in defense of our way of life.

Link Posted: 10/29/2009 8:21:31 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 8:22:32 PM EST
Very important info. He is completely correct when all else fails you fall back to your training
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 8:24:02 PM EST
Awesome post, awesome Marine. I would take him shooting so he could teach ME anytime.
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 8:24:57 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 8:25:41 PM EST
While reading that, I thought "wait, he took a carbine course and is paralyzed, why the heck did he do that?"

Then I realized the stupidity of my thought, espeically in light of the article- doesn't matter if you are fit and healthy, or living somewhere "safe", or in a wheelchair- that does not make you any less likely to need those skills!
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 8:26:29 PM EST
Great read, JW–– thanks for the post.
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 8:26:48 PM EST
Very instructive and inspirational. Great read.
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 8:27:43 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/29/2009 8:34:18 PM EST by Dog1]
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 8:29:06 PM EST
tag for later..
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 8:32:00 PM EST
good read.
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 8:32:25 PM EST
Tag.
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 8:34:30 PM EST
Great post. Thanks for putting it up there and thanks to one hell of a man for writing it and his service to our nation. Somehow I think this guy is gonna be OK in life despite his injuries.
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 8:34:39 PM EST
tag
Link Posted: 10/29/2009 8:36:41 PM EST
and that Devil Dog keeps on fighting.


Semper Fi, Marine.
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