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Posted: 12/8/2018 11:43:17 AM EDT

Question #1 - I have an 8.5" AR pistol kit on the way. When I pick up my stripped lower from the gun shop next week, what do I put in the box for OAL on the RI-60? I forgot how I calculated it for my last AR pistol.

Question #2 - I have an SBR that was once an AR pistol. Do I need to do anything with that RI-60 form or just stash it away? Is it still registered in my name in Michigan as a pistol? Or did the sheriff's office change it when I sent them my Form 1 papers?

Posted: 12/8/2018 3:17:13 PM EDT

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Less than 26" in with the stock collapsed is my understanding.

MSP link https://www.michigan.gov/documents/msp/MSPLegalUpdate106_451985_7.pdf

For #2. A Form1 SBR, can still be a MI pistol if it is under the 26" length.

Posted: 12/9/2018 12:58:33 AM EDT

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Less than 26" in with the stock collapsed is my understanding.

MSP link https://www.michigan.gov/documents/msp/MSPLegalUpdate106_451985_7.pdf

For #2. A Form1 SBR, can still be a MI pistol if it is under the 26" length.

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What will I put as the OAL on the RI-60 form though if I don’t know what the OAL is going to be yet?

I won’t be building it after I fill out the paperwork

Posted: 12/9/2018 8:34:20 AM EDT

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Should be transferred as other.
It's not a pistol until the upper is installed.

Posted: 12/9/2018 9:11:56 AM EDT

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Should be transferred as other.
It's not a pistol until the upper is installed.

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So I pick it up without filling out an RI-60, and then once it’s built, I can have him fill one out?

Posted: 12/9/2018 11:04:45 AM EDT

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So I pick it up without filling out an RI-60, and then once it’s built, I can have him fill one out?

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Should be transferred as other.
It's not a pistol until the upper is installed.

So I pick it up without filling out an RI-60, and then once it’s built, I can have him fill one out?

A stopped lower will be transferred from the FFL to you as an Other on the 4473. It’s neither a rifle, pistol, SBR, nor AOW until it is assembled.

When you build it into a pistol, you submit the RI-60 and sign as buyer and seller. No need to visit an FFL, and you would probably just confuse them.

My experience is that LEOs and FFLs now very little of the laws. It’s best to read them and learn them yourself.

Posted: 12/9/2018 11:19:28 AM EDT

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A stopped lower will be transferred from the FFL to you as an Other on the 4473. It’s neither a rifle, pistol, SBR, nor AOW until it is assembled.

When you build it into a pistol, you submit the RI-60 and sign as buyer and seller. No need to visit an FFL, and you would probably just confuse them.

My experience is that LEOs and FFLs now very little of the laws. It’s best to read them and learn them yourself.

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Ok this is what I did last time, but it’s been a few years

Thanks!

Posted: 12/9/2018 3:21:17 PM EDT

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I would have responded quicker, but I was busy moving Mom into the hearse,

Posted: 12/9/2018 5:51:05 PM EDT

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So sorry to hear

message me if you wanna get a drink or go shooting if you’re local to the Kalamazoo area

Posted: 12/10/2018 3:04:11 AM EDT

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I'm north of GR, I'll be at Fort Custer when the ground thaws.

Mom was in at home hospice for 6 months, so this wasn't unexpected, but still a little unsettling nonetheless.
Thanks for the offer.

Posted: 12/10/2018 8:12:33 PM EDT

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May B Friday/ Saturday

Posted: 12/11/2018 2:07:04 PM EDT

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I'm north of GR, I'll be at Fort Custer when the ground thaws.

Mom was in at home hospice for 6 months, so this wasn't unexpected, but still a little unsettling nonetheless.
Thanks for the offer.

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Sorry to hear about your mom. Hospice is very difficult, although for me it made it easier versus a sudden death. My grandparents spent close to a month each in hospice.

Posted: 12/11/2018 10:21:02 PM EDT

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It made things a lot easier for sure

Posted: 12/23/2018 10:53:14 AM EDT

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A stopped lower will be transferred from the FFL to you as an Other on the 4473. It’s neither a rifle, pistol, SBR, nor AOW until it is assembled.

When you build it into a pistol, you submit the RI-60 and sign as buyer and seller. No need to visit an FFL, and you would probably just confuse them.

My experience is that LEOs and FFLs now very little of the laws. It’s best to read them and learn them yourself.

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Yeah, this is what I did in every case. No flashbangs, yet

Posted: 12/23/2018 10:55:13 AM EDT

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Sucks, man. But I understand the relief as much as I can.

Think of the good things this holiday season. Don't dwell on the nasty memories.

Posted: 12/23/2018 1:18:23 PM EDT

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I'm washing the nicotine off the ceiling, putting Kilz on the flat wall paint, drinking beer and watching the LIONS lose at home today.

We haven't celebrated Christmas in 10 years. I', not depressed, unless you count the 1000 military primers I "depressed the other day.

I'll hit up some demntia groups to troll for wimmen.

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