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Posted: 7/17/2010 10:12:29 AM EDT
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Quoted: I'm pretty well nailed down on my local elections, St Rep, St Senator & US District Rep but the other seats I just haven't waded through all the propaganda yet. So whats the take on GHTF on the up coming Primary in the following elections; US Senator Isakson Hadley Thurmond Governor Chappman Deal Handel Johnson McBerry Oxedine Putnam Baker Barnes Bolton Camon Mangham {orter Poythress LT Governor Cagle McCracken Porter Secretary of State Kemp MacGinnite Buckener Hortacher Mills Moore Sinkfield Attourney General Olens Smith Wood Hodges Tellihet State School Superintendent Barge Woods Farokhl Westlake Commissio0ner of Insurance Cain Collum Harp Hudgens Knox Mamalakis Northington Purcell Sheffield Squires Commissioner of Agriculture Black Carter Powell Commissioner of Labor Butler Everson Coleman Hicks Who I plan on voting for, no idea about the others |
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Posted: 7/17/2010 2:58:23 PM EDT
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I'm not sure about the Governor's race. From what I've heard or seen, Karen Handel is either a pro-life conservative or a big-time liar; Deal supposedly had some shady business dealings in which he used his elected position to make lots of money, and Oxendine was supposedly a dishonest lawyer or something. This is just what I've learned recently in political ads, mailings, etc. I've actually voted for all 3 of them in the past elections, so I'm not trying to sling mud at anyone. Does anyone have any good credible info on the skeletons in their closets? Pro-life, 2nd Amendment and illegal immigration issues are very important to me. Thanks.
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Posted: 7/17/2010 3:02:48 PM EDT
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my understanding is that Deal has a lot of ethics issues. a quick google search
I will put an F ing democrat in office before I will vote for someone this obviously corrupt. Oxendine says he is a friend of guns and hunting but hasn't completed a hunter safety course, sooo probably just lip service. |
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Posted: 7/17/2010 3:11:09 PM EDT
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I can help for some of the down ballot guys.......
Labor - Melvin Everson is a gun guy and was very helpful in the Legislature to GeorgiaCarry.Org. in passing HB89 Attorney General - Preston Smith is progun and helped get gun legislation through the Senate. He opposed the Republican tax increases of this year and was stripped of his committee chairmanship by Lt.Gov Cagle. Olens has made comments that he doesn't believe people should carry guns. Public Service Commission - John Douglas.... he pushed HB89 through the Senate when it was stalled. He is a gun guy and has fought for our rights. |
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Posted: 7/17/2010 3:28:42 PM EDT
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my understanding is that Deal has a lot of ethics issues. a quick google search I will put an F ing democrat in office before I will vote for someone this obviously corrupt. Oxendine says he is a friend of guns and hunting but hasn't completed a hunter safety course, sooo probably just lip service. That was helpful. Thanks. Google is my friend, doh! |
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Posted: 7/17/2010 5:54:06 PM EDT
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Attorney General - Olens has made comments that he doesn't believe people should carry guns.. About HB89, Sam Olen's was quoted in the Marietta Daily Journal saying the expanded CCW rights were "A DANGER TO THE POLICE AND THE PUBLIC AT LARGE" Olens is a capable administrator, but at heart he's still a New Jersey Democrat who worked on Bill Clinton's campaign. A week after HB89 became law, I was seated next to him and his extended family eating pizza at a local joint. I was CCW a full-sized 45 and failed to notice how I was a danger to him and the public at large. As far as Oxendine goes––I've been getting these unsigned flyers bashing Karen Handel. I finally found a PO box return address that tracks back to Oxendines camp. I find it slimy––very slimy––that he would pay for these and not acknowledge that his campaign was responsible. He's marked off my list. Handel isn't on my list either, but for other reasons (she equates 2A with hunting  )
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Posted: 7/17/2010 7:10:18 PM EDT
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As of right now, I like McBerry for governor... anything I should know about him that I probably don't already?
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Posted: 7/17/2010 7:18:54 PM EDT
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I can help for some of the down ballot guys....... Labor - Melvin Everson is a gun guy and was very helpful in the Legislature to GeorgiaCarry.Org. in passing HB89 Attorney General - Preston Smith is progun and helped get gun legislation through the Senate. He opposed the Republican tax increases of this year and was stripped of his committee chairmanship by Lt.Gov Cagle. Olens has made comments that he doesn't believe people should carry guns. Public Service Commission - John Douglas.... he pushed HB89 through the Senate when it was stalled. He is a gun guy and has fought for our rights. Yep, I like Melvin. He has always been very responsive...even taking the time to call us back personally when The Monk and I have left message requesting his support for this or that. He'll get my vote. |
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Posted: 7/17/2010 7:33:44 PM EDT
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As of right now, I like McBerry for governor... anything I should know about him that I probably don't already? he has zero chance of winning in november for one. GR |
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Posted: 7/17/2010 8:09:56 PM EDT
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I'm going with Handel for Gov.
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Posted: 7/17/2010 8:19:13 PM EDT
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Can we vote for a low rated democrat in the primary if we are a registered Republican?
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Posted: 7/18/2010 4:01:26 AM EDT
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Can we vote for a low rated democrat in the primary if we are a registered Republican? No. You have decide between Rep or Dem. The decision also affects which party you can vote for in the runoff. If you want to vote in the Rep Runoff, you have to vote Rep. I believe if you don't vote in the primary, then you can choose either Dem or Rep for the runoff. |
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Posted: 7/18/2010 6:11:37 AM EDT
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No point in worrying about the Dem primary. I don't think there's enough Republicans willing to register as Dems to keep Roy Barnes from winning. What Republicans need to worry about is who can beat Barnes. It's going to come down to Oxendine and Handel in a run-off. Of the two, I prefer Handel, but I think Oxendine has the better chance in the general election.
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Posted: 7/18/2010 7:08:37 AM EDT
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As of right now, I like McBerry for governor... anything I should know about him that I probably don't already? You mean besides the whole inappropriate relationship with a teenage girl? Or the fact that he doesn't salute the American flag? Sorry... I can't vote for a jackass who won't salute the flag I fought for... nevermind its the same flag that his fellow Georgians carried into Afghanistan and died for recently. |
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Posted: 7/18/2010 7:14:20 AM EDT
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I'm down to Handel or Johnson for governor. Everson for Labor and the rest I have no idea... I'll do some quick research before Tuesday. I will say that if you're in GA-12 the mark it for Ray McKinney. I know Seaver has put out feelers here but her campaign is shi'ite and McKinney did run against Barrow last time. Now that Barrow is primaried by a self described "progressive" (i.e. socialist) who is black and a woman... it'll be interesting to see what happens come November in the general election.
So far though, I haven't see any campaigning by either Thomas or Barrow in Augusta except for the occasional sign. However, on the Republican side McKinney has been very active and is proactive in defining his conservative stance and I personally know he's a gun guy. Full disclosure, I am a McKinney volunteer (or will be since I just got back from Texas) so for more info see: Ray McKinney for GA-12 |
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Posted: 7/18/2010 7:42:13 AM EDT
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As of right now, I like McBerry for governor... anything I should know about him that I probably don't already? You mean besides the whole inappropriate relationship with a teenage girl? Or the fact that he doesn't salute the American flag? Sorry... I can't vote for a jackass who won't salute the flag I fought for... nevermind its the same flag that his fellow Georgians carried into Afghanistan and died for recently. That... I did not know. 
Thanks for the info kudzu. |
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Posted: 7/18/2010 8:20:04 AM EDT
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I'm down to Handel or Johnson for governor. Everson for Labor and the rest I have no idea... I'll do some quick research before Tuesday. I will say that if you're in GA-12 the mark it for Ray McKinney. I know Seaver has put out feelers here but her campaign is shi'ite and McKinney did run against Barrow last time. Now that Barrow is primaried by a self described "progressive" (i.e. socialist) who is black and a woman... it'll be interesting to see what happens come November in the general election. So far though, I haven't see any campaigning by either Thomas or Barrow in Augusta except for the occasional sign. However, on the Republican side McKinney has been very active and is proactive in defining his conservative stance and I personally know he's a gun guy. Full disclosure, I am a McKinney volunteer (or will be since I just got back from Texas) so for more info see: Ray McKinney for GA-12 Those are my pics for Gov as well. Johnson hasn't done well in polling though... my main goal is to NOT have Oxendine in the election. After seeing him in person and talking with him sirens were going off in my head- he's a slimy dishonest guy. His "platform" is his strategy for election, not his personal convictions. While I disagree with Handel on some issues she is an honest person with truly good intentions for the state. Handel gets my vote. And she actually has a chance at winning as well. |
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Posted: 7/18/2010 11:04:50 AM EDT
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Quoted:
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As of right now, I like McBerry for governor... anything I should know about him that I probably don't already? You mean besides the whole inappropriate relationship with a teenage girl? Or the fact that he doesn't salute the American flag? Sorry... I can't vote for a jackass who won't salute the flag I fought for... nevermind its the same flag that his fellow Georgians carried into Afghanistan and died for recently. That... I did not know.
Thanks for the info kudzu. Here's the AJC blog about it |
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Posted: 7/18/2010 6:07:18 PM EDT
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Handel denied until proved otherwise membership in Gay-Lesbian groups. So stike one, she's a proven to lie.
Strike two and three: She either joined those groups because she has really has ties to them or just to smooze up to them to get votes. Either reason is enough to prove character to me. Deal's ethics complaints came about from the Dems......they attacked every Republican they could with similar chages. He wouldn't roll over and vote with them. He's also a strong supporter of Fair Tax. Makes him my clear choice. |
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Posted: 7/18/2010 7:57:09 PM EDT
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Johnson probably.
Everson for labor harp for ins. commissioner I'll probably close my eyes and vote randomly on the others. 
gr |
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Posted: 7/19/2010 2:21:18 PM EDT
[#21]
Johnson for gov for sure.
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Posted: 7/19/2010 2:35:18 PM EDT
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Johnson for gov for sure. Sell me on Johnson.... I have no idea who to vote for Governor. |
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Posted: 7/19/2010 2:53:45 PM EDT
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Nathan Deal for Governor
Deal's ethics charges were brought by a George Soros-funded group. And ultimately the findings were "we can't really prove he did anything wrong but we can't prove he didn't either". And regarding the Roy Barnes juggernaut, Rasmussen has shown Deal to be the most likely to be able to beat Barnes in the General. Gerry Purcell for Insurance Commissioner He's an insurance expert who has saved both companies and other municipalities a ton of money by cutting waste out of their insurance programs and he's got great ideas about how to combat Obamacare. |
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Posted: 7/19/2010 3:45:21 PM EDT
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my understanding is that Deal has a lot of ethics issues. a quick google search I will put an F ing democrat in office before I will vote for someone this obviously corrupt. Oxendine says he is a friend of guns and hunting but hasn't completed a hunter safety course, sooo probably just lip service. Oxendine is the one with the ethics issue. |
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Posted: 7/19/2010 3:46:40 PM EDT
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Deal for governor for me. He's for the Fair Tax.
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Posted: 7/19/2010 3:48:06 PM EDT
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Nathan Deal for Governor Deal's ethics charges were brought by a George Soros-funded group. And ultimately the findings were "we can't really prove he did anything wrong but we can't prove he didn't either". Do you still beat your wife?
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Posted: 7/19/2010 4:34:48 PM EDT
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Nathan Deal for Governor Deal's ethics charges were brought by a George Soros-funded group. And ultimately the findings were "we can't really prove he did anything wrong but we can't prove he didn't either". Do you still beat your wife? Exactly. |
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Posted: 7/19/2010 4:59:30 PM EDT
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Received a robocall from the NRA saying they endorsed Preston Smith for AG. I'll be voting for him instead of anti-HB89 Sam Olens. Best of luck in your next career, Sam.
They also endorsed Kemp for SoS. |
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Posted: 7/19/2010 5:48:53 PM EDT
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I like the way Ray Mcberry talks, met him at 2 tea party's. His immigration policy....take all the school buses , load them up and drop 1000's of illegals at the white house gates. BUT There is some inappropriate child stuff going on when he was a teacher....
––––––-> http://swgapolitics.com/index/2010/03/17/breaking-ray-mcberry-fondled-student |
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Posted: 7/19/2010 5:50:50 PM EDT
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US Senator District 12: Jeanne Seaver is my pick. She is a pro-gun woman, likes supressors and shooting my daughter's AR15. Lurks here too.
 Pro Life and for small government.
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Posted: 7/19/2010 5:54:22 PM EDT
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Okay I'm cramming for the primary vote tomorrow and I read this little gem from K Handel's site
"...Karen understands that actual assault weapons are already banned by the 1968 Gun Control Act and that new bans are an attempt to deceive voters into believing that automatic weapons are currently legal. She supports the right of law abiding citizens to carry a concealed weapon and believes that obtaining a carry permit should not be made so onerous as to become a de facto ban on such permits."linky I'm kinda like  of the '68 GCA &   of the carry permit.
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Posted: 7/19/2010 7:03:38 PM EDT
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Handel ain't goona get my vote, and Oxendine is about as slimy as they come...just don't think I could trust him. The platform Eric has is good, he is a member of GCO (for what it is worth), and he polls well and could beat Barnes put him on the top for me. Could you imagine the negative attack ads Barnes will have on Oxendine and Handel?
Quoted: Quoted: Johnson for gov for sure. Sell me on Johnson.... I have no idea who to vote for Governor. |
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Posted: 7/19/2010 7:03:52 PM EDT
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The problem with Handel is you can't believe her. She says she is pro-life but she voted to fund Planned Parenthood with almost $500k of taxpayer dollars when she was Fulton county chairman. She says she is anti-gay marriage, then photos of her marching in a gay pride parade show up.
She will say anything to get elected. |
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Posted: 7/19/2010 7:10:53 PM EDT
[#34]
...and will give Barnes more than enough ammo to defeat her.
Quoted: The problem with Handel is you can't believe her. She says she is pro-life but she voted to fund Planned Parenthood with almost $500k of taxpayer dollars when she was Fulton county chairman. She says she is anti-gay marriage, then photos of her marching in a gay pride parade show up. She will say anything to get elected. |
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Posted: 7/19/2010 10:36:06 PM EDT
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10 hours from now I will be voting for either Deal or Johnson for Governor. I probably wont decide to the last minute.
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Posted: 7/20/2010 1:35:58 AM EDT
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Good Luck Today - Muddiver!!!!
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Posted: 7/20/2010 5:00:43 AM EDT
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Get off your ass and VOTE, people. Otherwise, you have no right to bitch and moan. |
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Posted: 7/20/2010 5:51:31 AM EDT
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Well I'm off to check on a customer, drop off a broken flash, lunch & then go vote.
I have my D.L. and cheat sheet w/ over 13 positions to vote for ready to go. I almost forgot the commission seats up for vote.
Any body here in US Rep Dist. 17? This is the seat being vacated by Linder. Cox was my first thought but after reading the propaganda I'm leaning toward Hice. 7mm |
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Posted: 7/20/2010 6:28:04 AM EDT
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I like the way Ray Mcberry talks, met him at 2 tea party's. His immigration policy....take all the school buses , load them up and drop 1000's of illegals at the white house gates. BUT There is some inappropriate child stuff going on when he was a teacher.... ––––––-> http://swgapolitics.com/index/2010/03/17/breaking-ray-mcberry-fondled-student So you too support not saluting the American flag? Thanks... |
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Posted: 7/20/2010 4:40:50 PM EDT
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...and will give Barnes more than enough ammo to defeat her. Quoted:
The problem with Handel is you can't believe her. She says she is pro-life but she voted to fund Planned Parenthood with almost $500k of taxpayer dollars when she was Fulton county chairman. She says she is anti-gay marriage, then photos of her marching in a gay pride parade show up. She will say anything to get elected. And how exactly will attending a Gay pride parade give the Democrat ammunition? I'm sorry but the "Social Conservatism" movement killed the republican party. The problems Georgia is facing have nothing to do with abortion or gay marriage. |
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Posted: 7/20/2010 4:47:51 PM EDT
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The problem with Handel is you can't believe her. She says she is pro-life but she voted to fund Planned Parenthood with almost $500k of taxpayer dollars when she was Fulton county chairman. She says she is anti-gay marriage, then photos of her marching in a gay pride parade show up. She will say anything to get elected. Two issues that have absolutely ZERO effect on 99% of the people that get so worked up about them. |
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Posted: 7/20/2010 6:05:26 PM EDT
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They'll use it by showing how inconsistent she is. We'll see how it turns out. So far it looks like she's got the nod unless Deal or Johnson get a few more votes.
Quoted: Quoted: ...and will give Barnes more than enough ammo to defeat her. Quoted: The problem with Handel is you can't believe her. She says she is pro-life but she voted to fund Planned Parenthood with almost $500k of taxpayer dollars when she was Fulton county chairman. She says she is anti-gay marriage, then photos of her marching in a gay pride parade show up. She will say anything to get elected. And how exactly will attending a Gay pride parade give the Democrat ammunition? I'm sorry but the "Social Conservatism" movement killed the republican party. The problems Georgia is facing have nothing to do with abortion or gay marriage. |
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Posted: 7/20/2010 6:11:38 PM EDT
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They'll use it by showing how inconsistent she is. We'll see how it turns out. So far it looks like she's got the nod unless Deal or Johnson get a few more votes. Quoted:
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...and will give Barnes more than enough ammo to defeat her. Quoted:
The problem with Handel is you can't believe her. She says she is pro-life but she voted to fund Planned Parenthood with almost $500k of taxpayer dollars when she was Fulton county chairman. She says she is anti-gay marriage, then photos of her marching in a gay pride parade show up. She will say anything to get elected. And how exactly will attending a Gay pride parade give the Democrat ammunition? I'm sorry but the "Social Conservatism" movement killed the republican party. The problems Georgia is facing have nothing to do with abortion or gay marriage. Handel can't win the primary- this will result in a runoff election. |
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Posted: 7/20/2010 6:44:37 PM EDT
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Sounds good! For some reason I was focused on the winner take all.
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Posted: 7/20/2010 7:03:29 PM EDT
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My point with Handel is she will say anything to get elected. If she is socially liberal, fiscally conservative she should state that. She doesn't.
And how has the social conservative movement killed the Republican party? To me it's the move away from conservative values (social and fiscal) that have hurt it. |
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Posted: 7/20/2010 7:31:57 PM EDT
[#46]
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My point with Handel is she will say anything to get elected. If she is socially liberal, fiscally conservative she should state that. She doesn't. And how has the social conservative movement killed the Republican party? To me it's the move away from conservative values (social and fiscal) that have hurt it. There was far too much of a focus on social conservative values in place of fiscal conservatism over the past 10 years. Look at the RINOs- they run on going to church, hating gays, and opposing abortion but don't stand up for real fiscal conservatism. Like I said before- none of our problems in GA have anything to do with abortion or gay rights. Our budget, traffic, and water problems won't be solved by banning gay marriage or abortion. Candidates who waste their breath on useless issues go down a few notches in my book. |
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Posted: 7/20/2010 8:02:07 PM EDT
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My point with Handel is she will say anything to get elected. If she is socially liberal, fiscally conservative she should state that. She doesn't. And how has the social conservative movement killed the Republican party? To me it's the move away from conservative values (social and fiscal) that have hurt it. There was far too much of a focus on social conservative values in place of fiscal conservatism over the past 10 years. Look at the RINOs- they run on going to church, hating gays, and opposing abortion but don't stand up for real fiscal conservatism. Like I said before- none of our problems in GA have anything to do with abortion or gay rights. Our budget, traffic, and water problems won't be solved by banning gay marriage or abortion. Candidates who waste their breath on useless issues go down a few notches in my book. We're talking about two different things. I don't oppose Handel because she's socially liberal. I oppose her because she's dishonest. I don't want to hijack a simple voting thread so I'll leave the deeper discussion about values for another thread. |
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Posted: 7/21/2010 8:06:17 AM EDT
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And how has the social conservative movement killed the Republican party? To me it's the move away from conservative values (social and fiscal) that have hurt it. I am 30. And I can tell you, in my generation I have run across very few people interested in using the police power of government to force religious morals on other people. I imagine you will find even less people interested in the newer generations. To me, republicans are some of the biggest hypocrites on the planet. All you hear about is how "BIG GOVERNMENT" is the root of all evil and how LIMITED GOVERNMENT is the solution. Then out of the other side of their mouth, big government is OK when it comes to controlling a woman's womb, who can marry who, and what people do behind closed doors. When none of these things really matter to ones individual freedoms, or even the problems we all face as whole. Frankly, I hope republicans keep up their righteous crusade to make everyone follow their beliefs, while preaching small government and spending like democrats. The reason Barrack Hussein Obama got elected is because republicans say one thing and do another, they fumble the ball every time they get a chance. One of these days, all these pathetic efforts by republicans are finally going to lead the way for a real third party (libertarian) candidate to get in office and finally fix things rational people care about. |
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Posted: 7/21/2010 9:26:16 AM EDT
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Ok, I'll bite. Let's talk about abortion. Most pro-choicers justify abortion by saying that a fetus isn't a human being. That's convenient. But when a pregnant mother has a miscarriage does she say "my fetus wasn't viable"? Maybe some. But most would say "I lost my baby". Not to mention the ridiculousness that is the give-and-take pro-choicers go through regarding when it should be ok. 1st trimester, in cases of rape and incest, etc. Ultimately if you believe a mother has a right to terminate her pregnancy she should also have the right to execute her 1 year old. There is no difference. I submit to you that a society which becomes increasingly callous towards abortion also becomes increasingly callous towards human life in general. I'm not talking about anything "religious" here. I'm talking about the value of human life. Do you think a society is better off when it devalues human life? You talk about the "problems we have as a whole" and I assume you mean economics, jobs, etc. But do you know why we have these problems? Because we are now dealing with two full generations of Americans that (in no particular order):
Those are the voters, legislators and leaders of tomorrow. Those are the people that elected Barrack Obama. That, is the "problem we have as a whole". And for the lighting round:
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Posted: 7/21/2010 1:53:58 PM EDT
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I don't want to hijack a simple voting thread so I'll leave the deeper discussion about values for another thread. I'm the OP & I ENCOURAGE any debate on the topic a politician says they stand on. Socket press on...others step up & support the position your politician supports or step back out of the way. Its gonna be a helluva ride. 7mm |
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