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Posted: 7/1/2022 12:01:50 AM EDT
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Our heads are about to splode with all these powerful rulings!!!
I can see us literally running out of lawyers. We are working on a ghost gun challenge as we speak... When we were Rauner's 2A advisors, we were actually able to get some movement on ISP issues. We would explain how we would absolutely beat them in court and at that time, they said they were tired of losing. It would be nice if we could just negotiate some of the low hanging fruit and not have to do court battles over everything. Their side will have a hard time defending their old position of "we don't feel safe" with people having and carrying guns. This is more than a ray of sunshine for gun rights! 
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Posted: 7/3/2022 5:09:00 AM EDT
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What I really want in IL is SBS and AOW in addition to suppressors.
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Posted: 7/10/2022 2:26:31 PM EDT
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What would the most effective way to challenge these blanket NFA bans? Separately, individually? I feel like the time is right, I just have no idea where one would even begin.
I just want quiet pew pews 
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Posted: 7/20/2022 11:09:50 PM EDT
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Also interested in the silencer piece. The fact that there is NO mechanism at all seems like a Federal-level 2A case - but I have neither the time nor the money to be the test case.
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Posted: 7/28/2022 9:41:19 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/28/2022 2:55:52 PM EDT
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I feel there would be a compelling case for suppressors. Seems there would be an audio health and noise pollution aspect that could be brought out too. Movies have made the legislative folks on both sides think that silencers do just that. These lawsuits are being considered by all. Just figuring the best path is important. We don't want to play our hand poorly and lose!
"Huckleberry"  ,,,HMMMMM!
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Posted: 7/28/2022 3:23:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/29/2022 12:57:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are known here as a guy who can execute. What would it look like? Assuming that we are not the 1) unjustly charged defendant in a criminal case, nor 2) Soros-level funded SJW - how would we use the legal system to remove suppressors from the banned list in IL? |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 10:05:30 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/29/2022 3:00:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are known here as a guy who can execute. What would it look like? Assuming that we are not the 1) unjustly charged defendant in a criminal case, nor 2) Soros-level funded SJW - how would we use the legal system to remove suppressors from the banned list in IL? I will sue them. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 5:22:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I will sue them. What do you require? |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 5:45:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What do you require? Well, if anyone wants a suppressor and lives in southern illinois, and want to be a part of it, that would be great. Though I am working with some others at the moment, the more the merrier! |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 7:43:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I will sue them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You are known here as a guy who can execute. What would it look like? Assuming that we are not the 1) unjustly charged defendant in a criminal case, nor 2) Soros-level funded SJW - how would we use the legal system to remove suppressors from the banned list in IL? I will sue them. I am encouraged that a proactive suit is an option. I thought perhaps we would need an active criminal case before the legal system would agree that 'redress' is warranted. This is good news! Quoted: Quoted: What do you require? Well, if anyone wants a suppressor and lives in southern illinois, and want to be a part of it, that would be great. Though I am working with some others at the moment, the more the merrier! "Yes" to want but "No" to residence location. That said, is there a way I can help? |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 7:46:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:I am encouraged that a proactive suit is an option. I thought perhaps we would need an active criminal case before the legal system would agree that 'redress' is warranted. This is good news! "Yes" to want but "No" to residence location. That said, is there a way I can help? Not that I can think of, but I’ll let you know. |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 6:19:16 AM EDT
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Suppressor lawsuit has been filed.
https://www.theintelligencer.com/news/article/Lawsuit-challenges-states-near-ban-on-17413355.php |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 11:25:56 AM EDT
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Armed Attorneys on limiting ATF power/authority
Armed Attorneys talking about Texas and Kansas vs Commerce Clause Armed Attorneys discussing Hoover vs US, take down NFA Now we just need a State of Illinois vs State of Chicago to affirm 2A in Illinois |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 1:35:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Suppressor lawsuit has been filed. https://www.theintelligencer.com/news/article/Lawsuit-challenges-states-near-ban-on-17413355.php ?? |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 3:28:21 PM EDT
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Quoted: Suppressor lawsuit has been filed. https://www.theintelligencer.com/news/article/Lawsuit-challenges-states-near-ban-on-17413355.php A man can dream. |
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Posted: 9/24/2022 2:14:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Our heads are about to splode with all these powerful rulings!!! I can see us literally running out of lawyers. We are working on a ghost gun challenge as we speak... When we were Rauner's 2A advisors, we were actually able to get some movement on ISP issues. We would explain how we would absolutely beat them in court and at that time, they said they were tired of losing. It would be nice if we could just negotiate some of the low hanging fruit and not have to do court battles over everything. Their side will have a hard time defending their old position of "we don't feel safe" with people having and carrying guns. This is more than a ray of sunshine for gun rights! @SwanHunter Good news on the ghost gun front, I hope the challenge you are working on is going well and that this ruling helps it out tremendously. https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/FPC-VICTORY-Federal-Judge-Blocks-Delaware-Ban-on-Self-Built-Firearm-Possession-Home-Manufacturing/5-2588603/ |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 7:57:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Suppressor lawsuit has been filed. https://www.theintelligencer.com/news/article/Lawsuit-challenges-states-near-ban-on-17413355.php  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 1:36:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Suppressor lawsuit has been filed. https://www.theintelligencer.com/news/article/Lawsuit-challenges-states-near-ban-on-17413355.php @bt1743 - does this eventually get published and assigned an ID? I'm thinking of SCOTUS docket IDs - is there a corollary for this type of complaint in IL ? |
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