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Posted: 5/31/2020 3:58:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Then why isn't there more rampant disease spread during normal times, when EVERYONE is shoulder to shoulder at fairs, concerts, etc? Because were in fantasy world right now... correlation, causation, real un-doctored statistics mean jack shit.... this shits apparently in the air.. its like playing the floor is lava game as a kid, but its the air is lava with alot of these people .. emotions and feelings are now hard science bro.... |
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Posted: 5/31/2020 4:38:07 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Closing schools made no sense. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yes. It made sense to close the schools and perhaps large public gatherings as they are primary vectors for disease transmission. Everything else, not so much. Closing schools made no sense. For the greater good. 
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Posted: 5/31/2020 6:23:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's getting harder and harder for me to see this ongoing "shutdown" as anything other than purposeful deception. This is a longer article but worth the time it takes to read: Governor DeWine Suppresses Data Disproving COVID-19 Policies From the article: Thanks for posting that, great article. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:43:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Closing schools made no sense. Why? I don't need to justify keeping schools open. You need to justify closing them. -Kids don't get this disease. Even if they don't congregate at school, they will congregate elsewhere. -Even if they don't congregate with ANYONE, they would just get sick again once they come back together -The disease isn't that serious to begin with. It's not much different than the flu & pneumonia as far as symptoms or death rate. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:46:21 AM EDT
[#5]
Has anyone heard anything about an end date for the requirement to wear masks at work?
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Posted: 6/2/2020 10:35:49 AM EDT
[#6]
Another great article, though based out of Colorado data, it has a significant numbers of test results to show the IFR is like 0.23%.
https://www.conservativereview.com/news/horowitz-colorado-antibody-testing-proves-cdcs-remarkably-low-fatality-rate-coronavirus/ “If you further divide the Colorado numbers by age group, you get a 0.03% IFR for everyone (sick and healthy together) under the age of 60. Even if you include all those under 70, the IFR comes out to 0.07%.” The whole lockdown has been a sham from the start, and the massaging of data to continue it has been nothing but a raw power grab. Fire Acton and Recall/Vote Out DeWine, with prejudice!! |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 10:49:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Another great article, though based out of Colorado data, it has a significant numbers of test results to show the IFR is like 0.23%. https://www.conservativereview.com/news/horowitz-colorado-antibody-testing-proves-cdcs-remarkably-low-fatality-rate-coronavirus/ "If you further divide the Colorado numbers by age group, you get a 0.03% IFR for everyone (sick and healthy together) under the age of 60. Even if you include all those under 70, the IFR comes out to 0.07%." The whole lockdown has been a sham from the start, and the massaging of data to continue it has been nothing but a raw power grab. Fire Acton and Recall/Vote Out DeWine, with prejudice!! Quote HistoryQuoted: Another great article, though based out of Colorado data, it has a significant numbers of test results to show the IFR is like 0.23%. https://www.conservativereview.com/news/horowitz-colorado-antibody-testing-proves-cdcs-remarkably-low-fatality-rate-coronavirus/ "If you further divide the Colorado numbers by age group, you get a 0.03% IFR for everyone (sick and healthy together) under the age of 60. Even if you include all those under 70, the IFR comes out to 0.07%." The whole lockdown has been a sham from the start, and the massaging of data to continue it has been nothing but a raw power grab. Fire Acton and Recall/Vote Out DeWine, with prejudice!! great article. I loved the closing statement: "Such targeted approaches would, however, require a shift away from the notion that we are all seriously threatened by the disease, which has led to levels of personal fear being strikingly mismatched to objective risk of death. Instead, the aim should be to communicate realistic levels of risk as they apply to different groups, not to reassure or frighten but to allow informed personal decisions in a setting of necessary uncertainty." |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:45:52 PM EDT
[#8]
Late on Friday night they extended the orders until July 1.
JLE |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 2:53:45 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't need to justify keeping schools open. You need to justify closing them. -Kids don't get this disease. Even if they don't congregate at school, they will congregate elsewhere. -Even if they don't congregate with ANYONE, they would just get sick again once they come back together -The disease isn't that serious to begin with. It's not much different than the flu & pneumonia as far as symptoms or death rate. So in short, you disregard all the facts that have been presented and are going on feels. A whole lot of what you wrote isn't true. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 2:59:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So in short, you disregard all the facts that have been presented and are going on feels. A whole lot of what you wrote isn't true. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't need to justify keeping schools open. You need to justify closing them. -Kids don't get this disease. Even if they don't congregate at school, they will congregate elsewhere. -Even if they don't congregate with ANYONE, they would just get sick again once they come back together -The disease isn't that serious to begin with. It's not much different than the flu & pneumonia as far as symptoms or death rate. So in short, you disregard all the facts that have been presented and are going on feels. A whole lot of what you wrote isn't true. If you think something I've said is not true, by all means present information to the contrary. You're the one saying schools should have closed for some reason. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 3:13:53 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Has anyone heard anything about an end date for the requirement to wear masks at work? Just say you can't breathe with a mask on due to a medical condition. You're not required to elaborate anymore than that due to HIPPA. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 5:27:33 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just say you can't breathe with a mask on due to a medical condition. You're not required to elaborate anymore than that due to HIPPA. My wifes employer requires proof from Dr. I was at a local lumber store today, no employees had mask and only one customer who was very old. |
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Posted: 6/4/2020 8:40:32 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My wifes employer requires proof from Dr. I was at a local lumber store today, no employees had mask and only one customer who was very old. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just say you can't breathe with a mask on due to a medical condition. You're not required to elaborate anymore than that due to HIPPA. My wifes employer requires proof from Dr. I was at a local lumber store today, no employees had mask and only one customer who was very old. As an employer... I don’t know if I can ask that. Only thing I know I can ask for is a return to work slip after 2 days off sick. |
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Posted: 6/4/2020 10:43:56 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As an employer... I don’t know if I can ask that. Only thing I know I can ask for is a return to work slip after 2 days off sick. My wife works at Whirlpool, thousands work at this plant in Greenville. I work at a machine shop, 30 employees. No one has ever had a mask on, we check temp at entrance. |
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Posted: 6/5/2020 7:18:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As an employer... I don’t know if I can ask that. Only thing I know I can ask for is a return to work slip after 2 days off sick. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Just say you can't breathe with a mask on due to a medical condition. You're not required to elaborate anymore than that due to HIPPA. My wifes employer requires proof from Dr. I was at a local lumber store today, no employees had mask and only one customer who was very old. As an employer... I don’t know if I can ask that. Only thing I know I can ask for is a return to work slip after 2 days off sick. ADA says if the disability is not obvious the employer can ask for documentation of the individual’s disability and their need for a reasonable accommodation JLE PS I went the other way at my work since they changed the policy and will no longer let me wear my Batman mask. Since I lost all the hearing in my left ear at 8 years old, I rely somewhat on lip reading to communicate precisely, so I had them allow me to put up a sign at my desk saying "To talk, please remove your mask or call me on the phone". |
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Posted: 6/5/2020 8:17:56 AM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just say you can't breathe with a mask on due to a medical condition. You're not required to elaborate anymore than that due to HIPPA. I'm not concerned about it for myself, I can stay in my office pretty much all day. There are a bunch of guys here that I would like to put an end to the mask idocy for them, though. I have yet to hear of an end date for it and I'm surprised it isn't a bigger deal to most people. I expect it to become a bigger issue/complaint once more people across the state return to work and the temps start ramping up. |
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Posted: 6/5/2020 8:19:49 AM EDT
[#17]
I was happy to see this, today:
Lawsuit filed against Amy Acton She has far too much influence and power for an unelected official. It's extremely disappointing that Dewine blindly follows and defends every single thing she does. Especially when there are facts and statistics to the contrary. |
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Posted: 6/5/2020 12:02:21 PM EDT
[#18]
Don't they know most people are either ignoring social distancing and masking or think the crisis is over due to the stay at home being cancelled?
Last night at a local baseball field there was a regular game going on and the stands were packed shoulder to shoulder. Just came from the park and there was a group of at least 50 kids, soccer team(s) maybe, all under the roof of one of the picnic shelters hanging out. |
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Posted: 6/5/2020 12:25:47 PM EDT
[#19]
it's like the scene at the end of the Wizard of Oz, ..when the curtain is pulled back, ...and that was weeks ago...
...the "Plandemic" was way oversold, and hopefully a lot of sheeple have realized their livelihoods have been unnecessarily upended by tin-pot politicians and "public health officials", who drew salary and lauded about "wearing capes" as they got high in their own egotistical bubbles... Also, the fake news media propagandists, who are activist hacks and wusses who selectively choose who to be subservient too and bark at anyone who dare point out their hypocrisy and extreme biases... ...wear a mask if you like breathing in your own CO2, harboring bacteria on your face, constant touching of hands to face because of discomfort and breathing problems, ... ...i see few people wearing masks around here, ..i think most are starting to get it... |
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Posted: 6/5/2020 1:29:30 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't they know most people are either ignoring social distancing and masking or think the crisis is over due to the stay at home being cancelled? Last night at a local baseball field there was a regular game going on and the stands were packed shoulder to shoulder. Just came from the park and there was a group of at least 50 kids, soccer team(s) maybe, all under the roof of one of the picnic shelters hanging out. That is a perfect description of the places I go. Rural SW OH and SE IN. No virus and no riots here. |
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Posted: 6/5/2020 2:40:59 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ...the "Plandemic" was way oversold, and hopefully a lot of sheeple have realized their livelihoods have been unnecessarily upended by tin-pot politicians and "public health officials", who drew salary and lauded about "wearing capes" as they got high in their own egotistical bubbles... Also, the fake news media propagandists, who are activist hacks and wusses who selectively choose who to be subservient too and bark at anyone who dare point out their hypocrisy and extreme biases... I try to tell them that life is getting back to normal for most people but they still think that the boogey-man is just waiting to pounce on them as soon as they are out in the world. I think that a lot of the reason that they are so scared is that their main news sources are NPR and the lefty pundits that they follow online. They don't get a counter to the hysteria other than me and I think that they think I'm just in denial or something. It's just one more reason that I resent the shut down and those who foisted it upon us. The constant fear that it caused for some is a real issue... |
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Posted: 6/5/2020 4:28:10 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know. I think it all comes down to how much people trust "those who know better." Don't get me wrong I completely agree with you. I will say that my parents, who are great people but pretty far left politically are still too afraid to leave their apartment. It breaks my heart to see them like that, they love to walk in the park and to go bird watching but they don't anymore. To be fair they are in a higher risk group due to advanced age but are pretty healthy all things considered. I try to tell them that life is getting back to normal for most people but they still think that the boogey-man is just waiting to pounce on them as soon as they are out in the world. I think that a lot of the reason that they are so scared is that their main news sources are NPR and the lefty pundits that they follow online. They don't get a counter to the hysteria other than me and I think that they think I'm just in denial or something. It's just one more reason that I resent the shut down and those who foisted it upon us. The constant fear that it caused for some is a real issue... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: ...the "Plandemic" was way oversold, and hopefully a lot of sheeple have realized their livelihoods have been unnecessarily upended by tin-pot politicians and "public health officials", who drew salary and lauded about "wearing capes" as they got high in their own egotistical bubbles... Also, the fake news media propagandists, who are activist hacks and wusses who selectively choose who to be subservient too and bark at anyone who dare point out their hypocrisy and extreme biases... I try to tell them that life is getting back to normal for most people but they still think that the boogey-man is just waiting to pounce on them as soon as they are out in the world. I think that a lot of the reason that they are so scared is that their main news sources are NPR and the lefty pundits that they follow online. They don't get a counter to the hysteria other than me and I think that they think I'm just in denial or something. It's just one more reason that I resent the shut down and those who foisted it upon us. The constant fear that it caused for some is a real issue... ...all the "experts", who hail from the "esteemed" academic, entertainment, and political circles concentrated in the Deep Blue Swamps of NYC, DC, LA... They've been wrong about damn near everything, ...sheep should be figuring that out by now... the Plandemic was orchestrated to instill fear and divide, look at the overreach in deep blue cities and states, ...now we have "mask people" vs "no mask people", "karens" and petty, hypocritical authoritarians like Whitmer and Gov Blackface... Nothing wrong with being "cautious" if you're susceptible to the virus, but hopefully the'll get a red pill to find their way out of the bubble.... |
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Posted: 6/6/2020 1:58:44 PM EDT
[#23]
...is Amy Acton among these...?...?
Tony Shaffer @T_S_P_O_O_K_Y · 43m Kinda captures the entire falacy of the need to quarantine - as long as you are protesting the police the coronavirus will know to leave you alone - as Jesse Pinkman would say "yeah, science - bitch!" Quote Tweet Austin Open The Economy Petersen @AP4Liberty · 4h Yes, it's a real quote.  |
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Posted: 6/8/2020 10:16:52 AM EDT
[#24]
So can anyone clarify, is it Amy says to Mikey "Jawohl mein fuhrer" when he speaks
or is it Mikey says to Amy "Jawohl mein fuhrer!" when she speaks? |
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Posted: 6/9/2020 11:07:56 AM EDT
[#25]
Yesterday The WHO (of all people) confirmed that transmission from asymptomatic people is "very rare." This is coming from CNBC (not a conservative news site) reporting on a statement from The WHO.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html "From the data we have, it still seems to be rare that an asymptomatic person actually transmits onward to a secondary individual," Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, head of WHO's emerging diseases and zoonosis unit, said at a news briefing from the United Nations agency's Geneva headquarters. "It's very rare." Dr Acton: Can we finally stop with all of this bull@#!+ now? ETA: To be fair it looks like they may have realized that they inadvertently revealed the wizard behind the curtain so to speak. They put out this statement today emphasizing that "much is still unknown about transmission." We wouldn't want people to stop being afraid of the viral boogey-man after all... https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/09/who-scrambles-to-clarify-comments-on-asymptomatic-coronavirus-spread-much-is-still-unknown.html |
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Posted: 6/9/2020 12:20:12 PM EDT
[#26]
COVID-19 only applies to:
- places of worship (1st amendment) - gyms, pools, parks - businesses the tyrants "deam" "non-essential" - salons, spas, barbers - elections - protestors against unconstitutional lockdowns COVID-19 does not apply to: - leftist terrorists and like-minded criminals who form violent mobs, loot, burn, and desecrate: (a) gov't buildings (b) monuments (c) businesses (d) innocent people - then the heathens make "demands" after their rampages (just like terrorists) ...wake up people! |
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Posted: 6/9/2020 6:34:32 PM EDT
[#27]
I found a cool website today after hearing about it on Dennis Prager's radio show: https://flattenthefear.com/
 Flatten the Fear Commercial |
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Posted: 6/10/2020 7:45:09 AM EDT
[#28]
I don't think anybody cares about the virus anymore, too busy virtue signaling about Floyd.
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Posted: 6/10/2020 11:02:22 AM EDT
[#29]
Noticed this morning while walking the dog that the playgrounds are now open again.
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Posted: 6/10/2020 11:06:12 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Noticed this morning while walking the dog that the playgrounds are now open again. Almost everything can open as of today. |
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Posted: 6/10/2020 12:40:53 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Almost everything can open as of today. Good to know, thanks. I rarely listen to the radio or watch local TV. |
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Posted: 6/10/2020 1:16:10 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Good to know, thanks. I rarely listen to the radio or watch local TV. I don't either, I get my news from GD.  Actually I check the local and state .gov sites often. The list of venues allowed to open June 10 are: Aquariums Art galleries Country clubs Ice skating rinks Indoor family entertainment centers Indoor sports facilities Laser tag facilities Movie theaters (indoor) Museums Playgrounds (outdoor) Public recreation centers Roller skating rinks Social clubs Trampoline parks Zoos |
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Posted: 6/10/2020 9:15:43 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryETA: To be fair it looks like they may have realized that they inadvertently revealed the wizard behind the curtain so to speak. They put out this statement today emphasizing that "much is still unknown about transmission." We wouldn't want people to stop being afraid of the viral boogey-man after all... https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/09/who-scrambles-to-clarify-comments-on-asymptomatic-coronavirus-spread-much-is-still-unknown.html The WHO walked back after strong backlash from doomers, the like of Dr. Acton  Attached FileLink to study The above is from the NIH, and while it is very limited in scope, it alludes to why asymptotic and/or mildly symptomatic patients are unlikely to contribute significantly to spread |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 2:30:10 PM EDT
[#34]
Acton resigned. Good bye and good riddance.
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Posted: 6/11/2020 2:45:34 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Acton resigned. Good bye and good riddance. Just came here to post the same thing. I'd like to know the details... |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 2:48:23 PM EDT
[#36]
She's going to be Dewines chief health advisor.
So really nothing different, but I think she can dodge the current lawsuits. (Correct me if I'm wrong.) So nothing really changes as I see it. |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 3:06:58 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: She's going to be Dewines chief health advisor. So really nothing different, but I think she can dodge the current lawsuits. (Correct me if I'm wrong.) So nothing really changes as I see it. At least she is giving up her dictatorial powers. |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 3:47:26 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: At least she is giving up her dictatorial powers. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: She's going to be Dewines chief health advisor. So really nothing different, but I think she can dodge the current lawsuits. (Correct me if I'm wrong.) So nothing really changes as I see it. At least she is giving up her dictatorial powers. I still hope Cedar Fair and the others take her to the cleaners for what she's already done. |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 3:55:56 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I still hope Cedar Fair and the others take her to the cleaners for what she's already done. Truth |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 4:24:24 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: At least she is giving up her dictatorial powers. She will probably just continue to wield her power through her very own Stepford governor. Don't get me wrong, glad to see this regardless. |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 10:16:03 PM EDT
[#41]
Fran is going to be upset when she finds out he likes the taste of someone else’s pie.
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Posted: 6/11/2020 11:07:54 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fran is going to be upset when she finds out he likes the taste of someone else’s pie. Boom goes the mic! |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 11:28:31 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Acton resigned. Good bye and good riddance. |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 11:30:42 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fran is going to be upset when she finds out he likes the taste of someone else’s pie. 
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Posted: 6/11/2020 11:31:13 PM EDT
[#45]
does amy acton get to keep her cape as a token of appreciation?...
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Posted: 6/12/2020 9:22:12 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: does amy acton get to keep her cape as a token of appreciation?... No just the paycheck |
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Posted: 6/12/2020 11:23:31 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No just the paycheck And that sweet dewine dicking shes gettin ...... |
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Posted: 6/12/2020 12:07:07 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And that sweet dewine dicking shes gettin ...... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No just the paycheck And that sweet dewine dicking shes gettin ...... Probably the other way around 
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Posted: 6/12/2020 1:02:51 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Probably the other way around I thought that would be the sign language person. |
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Posted: 6/12/2020 1:38:11 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought that would be the sign language person. That is one angry sign language lady. She always looks furious. |
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