Would be nice to have this thread around for awhile. BTW I was down at Ohio Valley in Lancaster and it was pretty busy as well, They have Police trade 21, 22 and 23s all for $379-399, Police trade M&P 40 cals, noticed cases of PMC 380 and 45 both in the $400 range, I had pretty much decided to go with a duo tone 22 and decided on a whim to go over and check out the bolt guns and found a nice 700LVSF in 221 on clearance that I had to have.