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Posted: 1/23/2020 2:36:37 AM EDT
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Next Hike Saturday, March 20, 2021, 0800: Calico Mountains [Completed]; San Diego County Hike April/May TBD Hike completed. See AAR on Page 4. I'm planning on an April or May hike to the south, date TBD, either in Dulzura or in a location near the Salton Sea suggested to me by HDLS. The goal is also to use a location that permits open bearing of arms. Potential for shooting as well. Original Post: So a while back I looked at one of the Virginia Battle Buddy threads showing what they did on their hikes, and thought that it was cool and wished we had something like that out here. I recently saw the thread calling for this to be spread to other States, and thought that since no one else had gotten around to it, it'd be cool to try to organize something like this out here, especially now that I'm almost recovered from my surgery and hospital stay and should be able to engage in strenuous activity again soon. Ideally, I'd like us to be able to hike somewhere in unincorporated areas where open carry is generally legal (at very least when fire restrictions are not in effect), so we can carry our long guns on our hikes. It'd be nice to have options besides just the desert. To this end, I posted in Calguns to try to solicit info and I am also doing research to see if I can find National Forest or other public land outside of the desert where there are trails sufficient for this purpose (greater than six miles of trails without having to make more than one loop or backtrack more than once, the more the merrier, and possibly areas where hiking can be done off-trail with sufficient amount of land for this). It'd be nice to also find such land in areas fairly centralized within SoCal, so as to make it easier for those living in the extremities of the region. If we can incorporate some camping, shooting, and land nav activities into hikes all the better. If anyone here knows of such areas we can use, whether or not they are interested, please let me know. If anyone knows of good areas in the desert, too, with variable terrain and other things to make it more interesting than just trekking across flat desert, I'd like to know as well. I do know of one area in the desert, where I usually go shooting, where we can probably do something like this (I'll have to take a look at the topo maps I have), and where we can shoot out to over 500m if we wanted to do so. It has fire pits and flat areas suitable for camping, too. It's near Calico and Ft. Irwin. Of course, if necessary, or as may be needed from time to time, we can also hike without firearms in other places (there's a trailhead leading to sufficient amounts of trails just mere blocks from my house), but I'd like to emphasize hikes where we carry. I'm pretty sure that all of Los Angeles County is out for hikes involving carrying, but I could be wrong (perhaps there's some way to do it in some areas if all involved have hunting licenses and tags). Since the challenges include passing the Navy PFT and CMP/NRA service rifle type shooting, we might also be able to get together to specifically engage in those activities, maybe find a match some of us could go to in order to participate, etc. To this end, I could only find one CMP-sanctioned match near Castaic, and another I think in Ojai, but it may be limited to American service rifles (I'll have to look into that). I didn't find any NRA service-rifle matches, but maybe there's something. If you guys know of anything, especially matches that include the foreign service rifle categories, please let me know. Attending Appleseeds might also be a good thing (and at Piru I think they use the KD range and not just .22s at 25M). Anyhow, I'd like to gauge interest and see how many of you guys would like to get together and do something like this. Seems like it could be a good time, a good way to improve fitness and get used to carrying a rifle and gear (or maintain all of that for those already in good shape or used to such activities), network, train, etc. So, is anyone willing to help build and participate in a SoCal Battle Buddies chapter? ETA: Links to the Battle Buddies threads in GD: ABB Guidelines A Call To All American Battle Buddies (Challenge) American Battle Buddies Warfighter Challenge |
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How far south do you want to go? There is a huge open space (Otay Open Space Preserve) near Engineer Springs, with South Bay Rod and Gun Club near for KD ranges. I know shooting is done here: 32°37'04.3"N 116°47'02.1"W . I believe it to be legal because during dry season signs go up saying no shooting. There is a graded road so any car can get there. Lots of trails and such in the area, camping is also done there. I imagine being seen would be rare, probably Border Patrol if anything. Not too much flat space for more than 1/2 mile at most.
Another area that is shooting is 32°35'21.1"N 116°54'02.4"W. again, very hilly. |
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How far south do you want to go? There is a huge open space (Otay Open Space Preserve) near Engineer Springs, with South Bay Rod and Gun Club near for KD ranges. I know shooting is done here: 32°37'04.3"N 116°47'02.1"W . I believe it to be legal because during dry season signs go up saying no shooting. There is a graded road so any car can get there. Lots of trails and such in the area, camping is also done there. I imagine being seen would be rare, probably Border Patrol if anything. Not too much flat space for more than 1/2 mile at most. Another area that is shooting is 32°35'21.1"N 116°54'02.4"W. again, very hilly. View Quote Of course, we actually need people to want to do this. |
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The Otay location seems to be a county/regional park. Still trying to find firearms rules, but most such parks around the State completely ban firearms (not all, though). The BLM land out there seems to be okay from what I could tell. There's also a wilderness area; not sure about the rules there. But if it is GTG for carrying firearms, seems like it could be a good place, even if some of us have to drive a ways (as many would for the desert, too, anyways). That close to the border, it might actually be a good idea to carry firearms regardless of what activity someone's doing.
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I’m in.
Think it’s going to be hard to find somewhere close we can hike and open carry, but I’m down for some remote camping, shooting, and training and local hikes, meeting up to shoot at a range, etc. I know a few places in the desert we can set up to shoot with room for individual fire and maneuver, buddy teams, and even fire team size. Up near Ft Irwin, another near 29 palms, and out near ocotillo wells. Can also camp at or right near those locations too. I have 4-5 reactive steel targets from MOA and also several wooden stands that break down and are easily transportable. I can easily make more stands or pass the design info to others. They’re good for holding cardboard silhouettes or even just squares of cardboard and staple various types of paper targets on them. This is an okay place to discuss generalities, but we need some type of more private comms for detailed discussion/ planning. Maybe a discord or signal channel? Also, our local (Oceanside) indoor range, Iron Sights, does steel challenge on Thursday nights. I think they also do some type of organized shooting on Sundays too. Pala range also hosts shooting competitions. Camp Pendleton has steel out to 600 meters and a pistol range for weekend recreational shooting, but I’ll have to see what the rules are for bringing others aboard base to shoot. |
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The Otay location seems to be a county/regional park. Still trying to find firearms rules, but most such parks around the State completely ban firearms (not all, though). The BLM land out there seems to be okay from what I could tell. There's also a wilderness area; not sure about the rules there. But if it is GTG for carrying firearms, seems like it could be a good place, even if some of us have to drive a ways (as many would for the desert, too, anyways). That close to the border, it might actually be a good idea to carry firearms regardless of what activity someone's doing. View Quote I think it's legal also due to the signs that go up and come down, saying no shooting due to fire hazard. no other signs. I'll try to find someone to ask about it and get something official, county sheriff and BP. I'd be interested in joining the fat lazy out of shape group, but I am way down in Otay Mesa. |
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Quoted: If you look at 32°35'29.4"N 116°54'51.2"W you will see it's right next to a juvenile prison, down the road from an adult prison. people shoot there all the time. That is the west end of the place i mentioned already. Sherrif dept shooting range between the prisons. no way it isnt legal to do it there with as much as it's done. people would get busted instantly. I think it's legal also due to the signs that go up and come down, saying no shooting due to fire hazard. no other signs. I'll try to find someone to ask about it and get something official, county sheriff and BP. I'd be interested in joining the fat lazy out of shape group, but I am way down in Otay Mesa. View Quote If we can't find good centralized areas, I think it might be good to alternate between more northern and more southern areas within the SoCal region. Out of the four of us interested so far, two of us live near the San Bernardino/LA County border area around the San Gabriel Mountain foothills, and two live down in San Diego County or thereabouts. |
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I can sponsor people on base. I’m just not sure if they allow me to take anyone but family members to the recreational range. Or the rules for them bringing weapons. I will call them or drive out there tomorrow and find out. This is a completely different range and area then the competitions that Santa Margarita gun club does, which get cancelled a lot from what I’ve seen. |
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@bigstick61 I can sponsor people on base. I’m just not sure if they allow me to take anyone but family members to the recreational range. Or the rules for them bringing weapons. I will call them or drive out there tomorrow and find out. This is a completely different range and area then the competitions that Santa Margarita gun club does, which get cancelled a lot from what I’ve seen. View Quote |
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@bigstick61 I can sponsor people on base. I’m just not sure if they allow me to take anyone but family members to the recreational range. Or the rules for them bringing weapons. I will call them or drive out there tomorrow and find out. This is a completely different range and area then the competitions that Santa Margarita gun club does, which get cancelled a lot from what I’ve seen. View Quote Burbank Rifle and Revolver Club does a CMP match regularly at their range near Castaic, but it's not clear to me if it's only U.S. service rifles, or any. I'll have to e-mail their match director, as their site with match info hasn't been updated since 2017 and doesn't show this year's matches or the guidelines for them. ETA: Found some info the BRRC posted on Calguns about this match and modern and vintage foreign military rifles are eligible and not just U.S.-issue ones. |
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Awesome, read OP's posts in the GD thread a few-ish days ago:
https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/A-Call-to-all-American-Battle-Buddies-ABB-Updated-Challenge-in-OP-/5-2271929/?page=1 Right on SoCal... |
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OP updated with links. I'm gonna do a post in Calguns and see if I can draw any positive attention and people there. While I know a lot of those guys aren't the types for this sort of thing, to say the least, that place gets way more traffic from Californian gun owners than the hometown forum here.
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OP updated with links. I'm gonna do a post in Calguns and see if I can draw any positive attention and people there. While I know a lot of those guys aren't the types for this sort of thing, to say the least, that place gets way more traffic from Californian gun owners than the hometown forum here. View Quote |
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OP updated with links. I'm gonna do a post in Calguns and see if I can draw any positive attention and people there. While I know a lot of those guys aren't the types for this sort of thing, to say the least, that place gets way more traffic from Californian gun owners than the hometown forum here. Pending determination of a location for the first hike, does anyone have any ideas for a date for the first meeting/hike? I'll be in Arizona from February 7th to February 17th, maybe a bit longer, but any other timeframe within February works for me. My job mostly has me work weekends more than week days, but I'm not obligated to take a work call, so I'm flexible there, and my calls are usually for night shifts, anyways. Week or weekend can potentially be made to work for me. |
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The Otay location seems to be a county/regional park. Still trying to find firearms rules, but most such parks around the State completely ban firearms (not all, though). The BLM land out there seems to be okay from what I could tell. There's also a wilderness area; not sure about the rules there. But if it is GTG for carrying firearms, seems like it could be a good place, even if some of us have to drive a ways (as many would for the desert, too, anyways). That close to the border, it might actually be a good idea to carry firearms regardless of what activity someone's doing. View Quote ETA Also in San Diego area. |
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I used to shoot there. come across illegals occasionally. makes it interesting. very hilly there, being as its a mountain. I'm too fat to hike in that area. but its local for me so thats a bonus. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The Otay location seems to be a county/regional park. Still trying to find firearms rules, but most such parks around the State completely ban firearms (not all, though). The BLM land out there seems to be okay from what I could tell. There's also a wilderness area; not sure about the rules there. But if it is GTG for carrying firearms, seems like it could be a good place, even if some of us have to drive a ways (as many would for the desert, too, anyways). That close to the border, it might actually be a good idea to carry firearms regardless of what activity someone's doing. Are there any trail maps available for the area? |
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I’d be in but I’m all the way up in Simi Valley and I’m not a big fan of driving I have long commute to work everyday so I usually avoid driving on my time off. I’d be in if you guys come up this way sometime.
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I’d be in but I’m all the way up in Simi Valley and I’m not a big fan of driving I have long commute to work everyday so I usually avoid driving on my time off. I’d be in if you guys come up this way sometime. View Quote |
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Sounds like Pomona area I grew up around there my usual gun store is up there All state police equipment.
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I'm also near Pomona and am watching this thread with interest. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Not too far from Pomona. Fortunately, not in Pomona (although there are some decent areas of Pomona up north near La Verne and Claremont). There may also be areas in the San Bernardino National Forest where we could hike armed. |
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I've read some of the material at the linked threads and my thinking on this is very clear. I'm not interested.
What I'm not really sure about is why anyone is. What's the point? |
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I've read some of the material at the linked threads and my thinking on this is very clear. I'm not interested. What I'm not really sure about is why anyone is. What's the point? View Quote If you are so disinterested, why did you bother posting this in multiple threads on the topic? |
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I wasn't going to reply in this thread because my work schedule just won't work out for me and the whole hiking while armed thing will definitely get some snowflakes panties wadded! I would caution everyone thinking about it, make sure you're in a place that's legal or else you might find the S.W.A.T. team waiting for you! I sure as hell don't want the man pointing any firearms at me, look how many people they shoot that aren't even holding a firearm!
I'm sure some of you remember how the fucktards on Calguns got treated for doing the whole meet ups while open carrying out in heavily populated areas! They are the reason why it was banned, they pushed the issue and fucked it up, no questions asked! It was a stupid idea that never should have happened in the first place! The other reason for posting is that it's hard as hell to get people to meet up to do some shooting. There's been talk here on the forum about doing a shoot, I posted up a date and got about 3-4 people that said they wanted to go. So it seems that there are people that are interested but are afraid of meeting new people or???? If people don't get out of their basements, how do you think you'll ever meet any new shooters? I was at Angeles Range today and while kicking back shooting with my son, we met about 10 guys that were there shooting also. So its not that hard to meet new people, just say hi, ask what they're shooting.... We had a good day, let everyone that wanted to, shoot my .50 and I got to shoot some other rifles that they had. What probably needs to happen is the state needs to be broken up into different sections, because even living in SoCal, doesn't mean that I'm right next door to another person from the board. Heck SoCal might have to be broken up into 3-4 areas for the guys that are interested in coming out for this, just an idea for you to think about. Above all else, BE SAFE! Check out all the areas that you plan on using. |
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I'm honestly not surprised by your comments so far based on previous posts. If you don't see the point of networking and organization among gun owners, camaraderie, encouragement to improve shooting skills and physical fitness in practical contexts, and improving or acquiring other practical skills, or of instilling the martial spirit that should be present among all male citizens (even our Founding Fathers said as much), then I don't know what to tell you. If you think this sort of thing requires a "sanity check" (does this sound insane to you or something), well, even tougher to figure out what to say. You're just not going to get it, I guess. All of those things are positive and good for the individual, for gun owners generally, and even for the citizenry at large. If you are so disinterested, why did you bother posting this in multiple threads on the topic? View Quote Why drive for hours to shoot? Why drive for hours to go for a hike? Physical fitness is only achieved with daily consistency, not once a week or once a month. "Martial spirit",... join a local dojo. "Sanity check" is a phrase that means to check to see if something makes sense. In this case, to me, it does not. YMMV |
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I wasn't going to reply in this thread because my work schedule just won't work out for me and the whole hiking while armed thing will definitely get some snowflakes panties wadded! I would caution everyone thinking about it, make sure you're in a place that's legal or else you might find the S.W.A.T. team waiting for you! I sure as hell don't want the man pointing any firearms at me, look how many people they shoot that aren't even holding a firearm! I'm sure some of you remember how the fucktards on Calguns got treated for doing the whole meet ups while open carrying out in heavily populated areas! They are the reason why it was banned, they pushed the issue and fucked it up, no questions asked! It was a stupid idea that never should have happened in the first place! The other reason for posting is that it's hard as hell to get people to meet up to do some shooting. There's been talk here on the forum about doing a shoot, I posted up a date and got about 3-4 people that said they wanted to go. So it seems that there are people that are interested but are afraid of meeting new people or???? If people don't get out of their basements, how do you think you'll ever meet any new shooters? I was at Angeles Range today and while kicking back shooting with my son, we met about 10 guys that were there shooting also. So its not that hard to meet new people, just say hi, ask what they're shooting.... We had a good day, let everyone that wanted to, shoot my .50 and I got to shoot some other rifles that they had. What probably needs to happen is the state needs to be broken up into different sections, because even living in SoCal, doesn't mean that I'm right next door to another person from the board. Heck SoCal might have to be broken up into 3-4 areas for the guys that are interested in coming out for this, just an idea for you to think about. Above all else, BE SAFE! Check out all the areas that you plan on using. View Quote Go to the range and spend some quality time shooting. Meeting and chat with others. This place is too big and traffic is too fucked up to waste your life idling in the parking lot,... err,... I mean on the freeway. |
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I wasn't going to reply in this thread because my work schedule just won't work out for me and the whole hiking while armed thing will definitely get some snowflakes panties wadded! I would caution everyone thinking about it, make sure you're in a place that's legal or else you might find the S.W.A.T. team waiting for you! I sure as hell don't want the man pointing any firearms at me, look how many people they shoot that aren't even holding a firearm! I'm sure some of you remember how the fucktards on Calguns got treated for doing the whole meet ups while open carrying out in heavily populated areas! They are the reason why it was banned, they pushed the issue and fucked it up, no questions asked! It was a stupid idea that never should have happened in the first place! The other reason for posting is that it's hard as hell to get people to meet up to do some shooting. There's been talk here on the forum about doing a shoot, I posted up a date and got about 3-4 people that said they wanted to go. So it seems that there are people that are interested but are afraid of meeting new people or???? If people don't get out of their basements, how do you think you'll ever meet any new shooters? I was at Angeles Range today and while kicking back shooting with my son, we met about 10 guys that were there shooting also. So its not that hard to meet new people, just say hi, ask what they're shooting.... We had a good day, let everyone that wanted to, shoot my .50 and I got to shoot some other rifles that they had. What probably needs to happen is the state needs to be broken up into different sections, because even living in SoCal, doesn't mean that I'm right next door to another person from the board. Heck SoCal might have to be broken up into 3-4 areas for the guys that are interested in coming out for this, just an idea for you to think about. Above all else, BE SAFE! Check out all the areas that you plan on using. View Quote Do you think you might be able to go on hike later in the year, supposing this thing gets going? |
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I would definitely come out to the range or the desert to go shooting. I would have to take a day off from work but given time I can usually make it happen.
Wouldn't mind the hiking part, my son would be up for it also. I don't think I would be carrying do to people, unless we go some place that's 100% legal. I just have the whole dealing with Johnny Law won't go well anywhere near population thing stuck in my mind. Hiking out in the desert is probably the best place to go but will have to be planned for cooler times of the year. There are some good places not that far from different areas in SoCal and I'm sure Central and Norcal. If guys were interested in hiking closer to L.A., it could happen but it would have to be without firearms. We all know that there's no way in hell something like that is going to happen in our lifetimes. So, we don't need to argue about it, just a sad fact about living here in CA. When I say close, I just mean close in the fact that the drive is about 3 hours for most people depending on where they live and the time of day that they leave. |
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BLM property is what you seek.
You can shoot with damn few restrictions, hike, camp, and wheel on BLM property. I have a medical waiver from the Navy's PRT from when I was in and my leg hasn't magically returned to full use but ... that said I'm more than willing and very possibly able to hike 4-6 miles across the terrain. Wouldn't mind meeting up with like minded people (and outshooting them!). |
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Join a club. Go to the range and shoot with your friends. That's what builds camaraderie, friendship, skills, networking. Why drive for hours to shoot? Why drive for hours to go for a hike? Physical fitness is only achieved with daily consistency, not once a week or once a month. "Martial spirit",... join a local dojo. "Sanity check" is a phrase that means to check to see if something makes sense. In this case, to me, it does not. YMMV View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm honestly not surprised by your comments so far based on previous posts. If you don't see the point of networking and organization among gun owners, camaraderie, encouragement to improve shooting skills and physical fitness in practical contexts, and improving or acquiring other practical skills, or of instilling the martial spirit that should be present among all male citizens (even our Founding Fathers said as much), then I don't know what to tell you. If you think this sort of thing requires a "sanity check" (does this sound insane to you or something), well, even tougher to figure out what to say. You're just not going to get it, I guess. All of those things are positive and good for the individual, for gun owners generally, and even for the citizenry at large. If you are so disinterested, why did you bother posting this in multiple threads on the topic? Why drive for hours to shoot? Why drive for hours to go for a hike? Physical fitness is only achieved with daily consistency, not once a week or once a month. "Martial spirit",... join a local dojo. "Sanity check" is a phrase that means to check to see if something makes sense. In this case, to me, it does not. YMMV |
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I'm honestly not surprised by your comments so far based on previous posts. If you don't see the point of networking and organization among gun owners, camaraderie, encouragement to improve shooting skills and physical fitness in practical contexts, and improving or acquiring other practical skills, or of instilling the martial spirit that should be present among all male citizens (even our Founding Fathers said as much), then I don't know what to tell you. If you think this sort of thing requires a "sanity check" (does this sound insane to you or something), well, even tougher to figure out what to say. You're just not going to get it, I guess. All of those things are positive and good for the individual, for gun owners generally, and even for the citizenry at large. If you are so disinterested, why did you bother posting this in multiple threads on the topic? Why drive for hours to shoot? Why drive for hours to go for a hike? Physical fitness is only achieved with daily consistency, not once a week or once a month. "Martial spirit",... join a local dojo. "Sanity check" is a phrase that means to check to see if something makes sense. In this case, to me, it does not. YMMV However, NRA and CMP matches are done at ranges, so those who want to do the challenges will have to go to one at some point, if just for that. |
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So what do you guys think of the 29th of February at the Otay location near Engineer Springs suggested by @maggiethecat for the first hike? Suggested weight either the probationary 25lbs dry or the 35 lbs standard in the pack plus rifle. Some ammo in LBE suggested as well. We'll try to do at least 6 miles. Maybe some shooting after if there's a good place to set up for that with actual targets (steel or paper). I still need to get more info about the area, but I think that gives enough time to get things figured out, see what routes we can do, etc. Those with local knowledge, please, chime in.
If enough folks can't or don't want to go to that area that live further north in SoCal, but we have enough folks who do want to do the above hike, we can have a secondary one either on the 23rd or March 1st, 25 or 45 lb packs, dry weight suggested, no weapons or LBE (handgun with CCW might be okay, though), at Walnut Creek in San Dimas. At least 3 miles, but I think we could probably get 6 out of it. No major grades outside of the area near the trailhead. Need to be careful at some of the places where the creek needs to be forded, but that's about it. Should be able to keep up a decent pace even without being in peak shape. If both take place, obviously anyone is welcome to do both if they want to do so. |
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I'm in, but frankly I'm so far behind the fitness curve, I'll be water only and sucking wind at mile 2 in the hills.
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I'm in, but frankly I'm so far behind the fitness curve, I'll be water only and sucking wind at mile 2 in the hills. View Quote |
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Go for your hike in the morning, then rent a range for the afternoon ($100) at Angeles Shooting Range.
Alternatively, make it a two day affair. Day one is a hike. Day two you rent a range at Angeles, do some training then shoot a match ($200). |
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Quoted: That's cool. We all gotta start (or get back on the horse) somewhere. We need at least one more and we've got enough for an official hike. Do you know if there are trail maps of the area? I want to try and plan this out and make sure we stay in a firearms-friendly area. View Quote I rode out this morning. it is BLM land. In the popular shooting spots you can get about 250 yards. More if you get creative. Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Nice. I'll look that up now that I have a name and see what maps I can find so I can plan something out.
Another update is that we have three for the San Dimas hike and it's just a matter of determining the better date (March 1st or February 23rd). The others interested are Calgunners (one of whom I've met before). If anyone here is interested and has a date preference, please post. For the 1st, which is a Sunday, I'd prefer if we'd start in the early afternoon, as I get out of mass between 1145 and 1215 in Ontario (it's the only Latin mass of the day at my church, so I try not to miss it). That would still give enough time to finish the hike before the sun begins to set. The 23rd is a Saturday. |
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a closer and much easier to reach shooting spot is at 32.654724, -116.807078 Still the same BLM land
Park on the side of the road, and set up right there. I guess hiking could jump off from there also. |
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Also, the LA-area hike is scheduled for Saturday, February 23, tentatively meeting at 1000, at Walnut Creek in San Dimas. Meeting point will be the parking lot at the trailhead on San Dimas Ave. Parking is also available on the street to the north of the lot, on the southbound side. Nearest Fwy. exit is Via Verde off of the 57. From either exit, make a right onto Via Verde. Make a right onto San Dimas Ave. Proceed past the first signal light and you will see the parking lot on your left-hand side.
No open-carrying of firearms for this hike. For those wanting to do the challenge/ratings, 25 lb. pack dry, or 45 lbs., to count towards provisional or higher ratings, respectively. For those who do not, bring what you want, or nothing at all, although I'd recommend water, at least. I'll be measuring out a course somewhere between 3-6 miles in the next week or so, and doing it out in-person to check it out. So far I have myself and two Calgunners interested. If anyone here is interested, please let me know. The more the merrier. |
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How far south do you want to go? There is a huge open space (Otay Open Space Preserve) near Engineer Springs, with South Bay Rod and Gun Club near for KD ranges. I know shooting is done here: 32°37'04.3"N 116°47'02.1"W . I believe it to be legal because during dry season signs go up saying no shooting. There is a graded road so any car can get there. Lots of trails and such in the area, camping is also done there. I imagine being seen would be rare, probably Border Patrol if anything. Not too much flat space for more than 1/2 mile at most. Another area that is shooting is 32°35'21.1"N 116°54'02.4"W. again, very hilly. View Quote I grew up in the area, and shoot there often. In fact, I was shooting there this last weekend with my younger son. |
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Quoted: One thing I've been trying to find are NRA and CMP-sanctioned service rifle matches (since that's part of the Battle Buddies challenge). Not a whole lot of options there that I've found so far, and I'm not sure any of the CMP ones allow foreign service rifles (whether in the CMP vintage or modern categories), which would exclude someone like me. I'm not sure if the NRA service rifle match rules permit foreign rifles in some matches like the CMP does, although so far of the few service rifle matches I've found, all have been CMP and not NRA. The Rancho Santa Margarita club does CMP EIC ones, which allow a wide variety of rifles, but only give EIC points for U.S. service rifles; the other rifles combined are scored in a separate category, too. On practiscore, no one had signed up for the second category, only the U.S. service rifle one. Burbank Rifle and Revolver Club does a CMP match regularly at their range near Castaic, but it's not clear to me if it's only U.S. service rifles, or any. I'll have to e-mail their match director, as their site with match info hasn't been updated since 2017 and doesn't show this year's matches or the guidelines for them. ETA: Found some info the BRRC posted on Calguns about this match and modern and vintage foreign military rifles are eligible and not just U.S.-issue ones. View Quote |
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How far south do you want to go? There is a huge open space (Otay Open Space Preserve) near Engineer Springs, with South Bay Rod and Gun Club near for KD ranges. I know shooting is done here: 32°37'04.3"N 116°47'02.1"W . I believe it to be legal because during dry season signs go up saying no shooting. There is a graded road so any car can get there. Lots of trails and such in the area, camping is also done there. I imagine being seen would be rare, probably Border Patrol if anything. Not too much flat space for more than 1/2 mile at most. View Quote Also best to stay away from local houses, some of them are liberals who would freak out if they saw multiple armed hikers. There is a local effort to shut down shooting in the area, local government tried to end it but didn't get the feds onboard with that (so far). Also, shooting is shut down in dry weather. I always see either shooters or offroaders when I'm out there. In that area I haven't seen BLM rangers. Sometimes see Border Patrol. Haven't seen illegals in awhile. |
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Quoted: Does the BLM land extend southwards from that point? View Quote everything south and west or the yellow line, which is a road, and between the red lines Attached File |
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a closer and much easier to reach shooting spot is at 32.654724, -116.807078 Still the same BLM land Park on the side of the road, and set up right there. I guess hiking could jump off from there also. Personally I wouldn't want to leave my car there. |
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not like it'd be there a long time. but yeah, even parking at the lot right at SBRGC is better in my opinion. From there it's 2 miles to the other spot i mentioned.
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not like it'd be there a long time. but yeah, even parking at the lot right at SBRGC is better in my opinion. From there it's 2 miles to the other spot i mentioned. View Quote |
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