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Posted: 12/19/2018 8:58:44 PM EDT
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Go used JM marlin of your choice.... I like them ratty.. if they are already beat on, I can only have fun.
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Posted: 12/19/2018 9:09:06 PM EDT
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Older Marlin. Older the better.
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Posted: 12/19/2018 9:13:15 PM EDT
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If you could find a nice older Winchester it would probably be too expensive, so yes to the JM Marlin.
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Posted: 12/19/2018 9:41:35 PM EDT
[#4]
Its a trap.
I bought an older Marlin in 44mag for $325 with 2 boxes of ammo. After having the barrel cut to 16". An enlarged lever handle added and a sight upgrade I have $1,200 into it. |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 1:20:15 AM EDT
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My next one is going to be a Henry.
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Posted: 12/20/2018 1:39:40 AM EDT
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I don't know why you want it or what you want it for, so I can only tell you what I am after.
1892 Winchester 357 magnum - with the longer barrel, 357 approaches 30-30 performance. 20" blued, round barrel - classic style I don't care for the loading tube of the Henry. They are supposedly quite heavy, too, which runs counter to wanting the rifle in the first place. |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 1:48:24 AM EDT
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I don't know why you want it or what you want it for, so I can only tell you what I am after. 1892 Winchester 357 magnum - with the longer barrel, 357 approaches 30-30 performance. 20" blued, round barrel - classic style I don't care for the loading tube of the Henry. They are supposedly quite heavy, too, which runs counter to wanting the rifle in the first place. Got rid of my Win 94 Trapper to buy a Win 92 Trapper takedown model. (Both .45 Colt) Like the new 92 so much that I sourced an old Browning B92 in .357 to go with it. 92 action guns in pistol calibers are sweet |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 1:55:14 AM EDT
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A true Marlin (JM stamped) 1895SBL. It is a real beauty...
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Posted: 12/20/2018 8:29:20 AM EDT
[#9]
on the marlin, what's the JM stand for?
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Posted: 12/20/2018 8:51:11 AM EDT
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JM Marlin or Winchester 94, they both shoot great. I've carried both for lots of long walks in the woods & prefer the 94 due to the way the lever pivot point is flush with the action, seems like a small issue until you carry it in your hand & the protruding hinge on the Marlin makes it uncomfortable to hold, The 94 is another testament to the gun designing genius of John Moses Browning.
There are plenty of 30-30 Winchesters & Marlins for sale on the EE for reasonable prices, i purchased another one just last night, good luck. |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 10:09:40 AM EDT
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A true Marlin (JM stamped) 1895SBL. It is a real beauty... https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/prodimages/19492-DEFAULT-l.jpg |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 11:52:12 AM EDT
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I've got a couple Uberti 45 Colt LGs and a couple of Rossi .357mag LGs. Both are great for plinking and enjoying myself but the .357mag is the more used caliber. The Rossi clones of the Winchester '92 design are light, trim, and a ton of fun to shoot. They can be loaded down with mouse fart level plinking loads or loaded up with 158, 180, or 200grn hunting loads that will take medium deer at ranges up to about 100yds.
I also have a Mossberg 464, 30-30 and I can definitely state that the Mossbergs do not suck. I picked mine up in 2012 and couldn't be happier with it. Now some 500rds later it's great. The Marbles sights are really nice on it and it's accurate enough for me to hit bowling pins at 200yds with it when I do my part. 
All of them are good choices for their respective uses. Your choice should depend upon what you want to do with it, if you reload, and if not, what ammo selections are available to you. |
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Posted: 12/20/2018 3:16:25 PM EDT
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I have a Rossi carbine in .357mag and love shooting this rifle. I use mine for deer and in my area, I rarely get a shot over 80 yards so the .357mag is fine for me. The rifle is light and I can carry it all day in the woods with no problem. Now that being said, if I had to a do-over instead of the Rossi, I would have gotten a Henry Big Boy steel carbine in .357. If I run into a Henry at a good price, I plan on buying one.
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Posted: 12/20/2018 3:18:52 PM EDT
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A true Marlin (JM stamped) 1895SBL. It is a real beauty... https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/prodimages/19492-DEFAULT-l.jpg ETA: ordered yesterday. 
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Posted: 12/21/2018 12:10:44 AM EDT
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I got to handle one of the new 1894C's today and as skeptical as I am about the new Marlins..
I was impressed.. The fit of the wood was perfect all the way around. The action was as smooth as any of our 3 - JM stamped guns. The machining of bolt and receiver looked good. Sights were straight. Finished looked good. I'm not saying every single new Marlin they roll off the block is gonna be that way, but it seems like they can at least make one good one again. It was priced at $689. I had to really hold back to not walk out with it, but I had went to the gun store with intentions of coming home with another gun (and i did  )
I may just go back up there later this week and bring it home.. |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 12:12:41 AM EDT
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With all that said, the only way I'd buy one is if I could spend a fair amount of time looking one over.
I probably spent 10 minutes with this gun in hand and I was happy with it, but not every gun they turn out will be that way. |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 7:10:40 PM EDT
[#17]
Winchester ranger with cross bolt safety
Are they any good? |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 7:22:23 PM EDT
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I wanted a 22, and a semi-nice one, so I got a Browning BL22.
 DSC_0402-BL22 by FredMan, on Flickr
Then I scoped it.  DSC_0524-BL22 Whole by FredMan, on Flickr
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Posted: 12/21/2018 7:42:59 PM EDT
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Taylors lever Scout. It is made in Italy by Chiappa , imported by Taylors. It for me is the Gold Standard at which I judge any other Model 92's. The take down mechanism has been used for about 100 years so it should do just fine. Mine is .357 but it is available in other cal`s.
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Posted: 12/21/2018 11:25:14 PM EDT
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I have several Marlin rifles (pre Remlin). And, I'd buy a Uberti clone of a Winchester before I'd spend my money on a Henry. That's how I roll (my opinion).
Aloha, Mark |
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Posted: 12/22/2018 12:48:46 AM EDT
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I have several Marlin rifles (pre Remlin). And, I'd buy a Uberti clone of a Winchester before I'd spend my money on a Henry. That's how I roll (my opinion). Aloha, Mark Is it you don't like the Henry rifles or do you like the Uberti rifles or,...? |
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Posted: 12/22/2018 4:30:17 PM EDT
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So I am thinking I want something different. Lever action, 45 colt or 30-30 or 357/38. Reading some reviews of newer guns. Not sure I am willing to gamble to see if I get a good one. So if I go 30-30 I ll go used. new marlins and mossberg kinda suck. I think if I were to to in the pistol caliber I would buy Henry. What's your guys thoughts? New Marlins don't "suck". Only the ones made just after the take over by Freedom Group. Those made from 2008 to 2011 or so did suck, I'd avoid those. I have two recent Marlins and they compare favorably to my JM's. Wood to metal fit, trigger pull, accuracy, action smoothness and all around quality is just as good as my older Marlins. If anything, the polishing and bluing are better on the newer guns. Two things that the workers at Ilion could improve on are making sure butt stock and fore arm wood matches better, and not rounding off the edges where the flats meet on the octagon barrel models. They must have a gorilla buffing the barrels. I just bought another JM 1894 in 45 Colt, serial number shows it was made in 1988. It was fired very little, and the action was a bit stiff. I polished the usual spots, but the hammer spring an lever plunger spring were too stiff, so I took a coil off of those, the action is much smoother now. Any new lever could stand some break in, even an older one too that didn't have many rounds through it. Some guys will repeat forever that all new Marlins suck, when it was just a couple years after the takeover that did. Marlin has got their act together now. Buy Henrys if you want, but rebounding hammers and heavy, homely receivers are not something I want in a lever gun. |
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Posted: 12/22/2018 4:41:07 PM EDT
[#23]
I have a Marlin that was rebored from 30-30 to 38-55. It's a hoot.
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Posted: 12/22/2018 4:41:23 PM EDT
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I'll wade in on my lack of interest in owning a Henry Big Boy in a center fire caliber.
While the Henrys have good actions, I have 2 issues with them. 1st is their lack of a loading gate in the frame. Loading the ammo like you do with a 22 is a pain and not for me and makes the platform a non starter. 2nd, is the Big Boy's excessive weight. My Rossi .357 Mag carbine weighs exactly 5lbs 14oz empty while a Henry Big Boy in .357 Mag is quoted to weigh 7.76lbs (7lbs 12ozs), just shy of 2lbs heavier than the Rossi. Together, these 2 deficiencies take the Henry center fire rifles off of my could buy list and leave them squarely in the will not consider list. |
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Posted: 12/22/2018 5:04:17 PM EDT
[#25]
Winchester, Winchester clones, and Savages are what I like.
If you want a lever gun that's nice and doesn't break the bank and Model 92 or 92 clone is a great fit. |
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Posted: 12/25/2018 4:14:55 PM EDT
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What about the newly made Winchester 1873 in .357 ? I know they’re expensive but they look great.
Will they hold up to a lot of shooting ? |
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Posted: 12/25/2018 5:20:26 PM EDT
[#27]
Just saw a rossi m92 clone in 454 casuell (spelling?) at cabelas.
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Posted: 12/25/2018 5:48:09 PM EDT
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Just saw a rossi m92 clone in 454 casuell (spelling?) at cabelas. |
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Posted: 12/25/2018 5:51:00 PM EDT
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Used or is Rossi selling them in 454 again? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just saw a rossi m92 clone in 454 casuell (spelling?) at cabelas. Kinda pretty gun, would probably be ridiculously fun. My Father has a puma branded one in .45 colt that's super fun. |
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Posted: 12/26/2018 11:42:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Aloha, Mark Is it you don't like the Henry rifles or do you like the Uberti rifles or,...? More or less in this order..... Winchester 1873s and 1866s (actually, most are clones) Marlin 1894s Winchester (includes clones) 1892s and 1894s YES, there are always exceptions. And of course, modifications and gunsmith work accounts for some really slick firearms and don't forget the individuals doing the shooting too. So then..... The Henry rifles are new to the game. And, they don't really look like (IMHO) a "real western rifle". OK, Ok, ok.....they got a lever action. But, it's not like I've seen them in the movies anyway. LOL. Anyway.....put it up to your shoulder, try the actions, and judge for yourself what you like. Aloha, Mark Inspiration, for the men. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-DwijYPApM&list=PL36vcAgyzrlRtfYOaw4v-oOL7UfcfuhY5&index=33 And for the women. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01yy_nY_iEc&list=PL36vcAgyzrlRtfYOaw4v-oOL7UfcfuhY5 |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 4:25:54 PM EDT
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As I said above, I've got examples of Ubertis in 45 Colts I've had since 2013, Rossis in .357 Mag I've had since 2009, and a Mossberg 464 in 30-30 I've had since 2012. I've had both a pre '64 Win '94 and a Marlin 336 but traded both off 30+ years ago because I wasn't happy with either. As to our thoughts for Win, Mark's perspective above is a very narrow one; that being what works best for CASS.
As Win hasn't indicated that he shoots CASS, it may not be of real value to his question, however, because he hasn't given any indication of what he wants to do with it, the discussion of various options is pointless. I'm asking Win to give us an idea of what he wants to do with his levergun and what he expects from it, so we can narrow the responses. |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 8:42:50 PM EDT
[#32]
As I mentioned.......to me, SASS is a game. Aloha, Mark |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 9:58:33 PM EDT
[#33]
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https://i.postimg.cc/TY3wkwLX/He_s_Right.png As I mentioned.......to me, SASS is a game. Aloha, Mark |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 9:52:26 AM EDT
[#34]
Hard to beat Rossi. Great price. Very strong action. 4.5 lbs of goodness. I've got the 45LC and reload. The Rossi can easily handle a 250g slug at 1500fpm.
Handled a Henry not too long ago. It is no doubt a very pretty, tough rifle but the drawbacks of a tube load and 7.5-8lbs. Uberti and clones, pretty guns, pricey, but not the toughest. Then there is the Winny where it all started. |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 12:04:53 PM EDT
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on the marlin, what's the JM stand for? |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 12:05:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: New Marlins don't "suck". Only the ones made just after the take over by Freedom Group. Those made from 2008 to 2011 or so did suck, I'd avoid those. I have two recent Marlins and they compare favorably to my JM's. Wood to metal fit, trigger pull, accuracy, action smoothness and all around quality is just as good as my older Marlins. If anything, the polishing and bluing are better on the newer guns. Two things that the workers at Ilion could improve on are making sure butt stock and fore arm wood matches better, and not rounding off the edges where the flats meet on the octagon barrel models. They must have a gorilla buffing the barrels. I just bought another JM 1894 in 45 Colt, serial number shows it was made in 1988. It was fired very little, and the action was a bit stiff. I polished the usual spots, but the hammer spring an lever plunger spring were too stiff, so I took a coil off of those, the action is much smoother now. Any new lever could stand some break in, even an older one too that didn't have many rounds through it. Some guys will repeat forever that all new Marlins suck, when it was just a couple years after the takeover that did. Marlin has got their act together now. Buy Henrys if you want, but rebounding hammers and heavy, homely receivers are not something I want in a lever gun. |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 12:06:37 PM EDT
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I'll wade in on my lack of interest in owning a Henry Big Boy in a center fire caliber. While the Henrys have good actions, I have 2 issues with them. 1st is their lack of a loading gate in the frame. Loading the ammo like you do with a 22 is a pain and not for me and makes the platform a non starter. 2nd, is the Big Boy's excessive weight. My Rossi .357 Mag carbine weighs exactly 5lbs 14oz empty while a Henry Big Boy in .357 Mag is quoted to weigh 7.76lbs (7lbs 12ozs), just shy of 2lbs heavier than the Rossi. Together, these 2 deficiencies take the Henry center fire rifles off of my could buy list and leave them squarely in the will not consider list. |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 1:24:23 PM EDT
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Agree. Appears to be a great rifle and company, but screw the "no loading gate" crap. |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 1:43:53 PM EDT
[#39]
I don't do action shooting.
For me it will be range and hunting gun. I am leaning toward an older 336 in 30-30. preferably new enough that it's drilled and tapped. after doing a bunch of reading I wont buy a new marlin. I chose 30-30 because it's the cheapest to buy. If I can find a deal on a pistol caliber I would buy one. |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 1:46:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/28/2018 2:42:56 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/29/2018 6:04:06 PM EDT
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One option is a Savage 99 if you come across one. I say that, because I just bought one on a whim and it is a pleasure to handle and points like a dream. Mine is in 300 Savage, and I need to find ammo for it. I've ordered a Marbles tang peep sight.
I also have and like BLRs. Can't go wrong with them. A good ol 30-30 has a certain charm, though |
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Posted: 12/29/2018 10:34:26 PM EDT
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I will take my 2018 336 Marlin SS over any JM marlin. People just keep on preaching the same crap. Go to a busy gun store where product doesn't sit on racks for years, ask to handle a NEW Marlin made in 2017-2018. Serial # code is easy to find and ID on Google.
Don't but 3-5 yr hold overs as new production marlins, let somebody else do that. You'll see what I'm talking about. |
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Posted: 12/29/2018 11:22:55 PM EDT
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I will take my 2018 336 Marlin SS over any JM marlin. People just keep on preaching the same crap. Go to a busy gun store where product doesn't sit on racks for years, ask to handle a NEW Marlin made in 2017-2018. Serial # code is easy to find and ID on Google. Don't but 3-5 yr hold overs as new production marlins, let somebody else do that. You'll see what I'm talking about. |
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Posted: 12/29/2018 11:49:12 PM EDT
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I will take my 2018 336 Marlin SS over any JM marlin. People just keep on preaching the same crap. Go to a busy gun store where product doesn't sit on racks for years, ask to handle a NEW Marlin made in 2017-2018. Serial # code is easy to find and ID on Google. Don't but 3-5 yr hold overs as new production marlins, let somebody else do that. You'll see what I'm talking about. Serial number: MR406 Left side barrel code: XJ And I agree about the new Marlins, I love 1984 in. 44 mag.
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