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Posted: 11/10/2014 1:19:17 AM EDT
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In my opinion, NO for either model.
While I greatly appreciate all that Ronnie Barrett and family has done for the Sport, his product is over-priced. |
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Posted: 11/10/2014 2:01:40 AM EDT
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That depends. Do you want to use a suppressor later on? If yes, or even a maybe, get the 107.
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In my opinion, NO for either model. While I greatly appreciate all that Ronnie Barrett and family has done for the Sport, his product is over-priced. I haven't seen a single semi-auto 50 that I wouldn't consider overpriced... I compared the price of my 99 to the AR-50. If you paid MSRP for the AR-50 and got the same case, scope, rings I got and the Armalite bipod, it would've been more expensive than my brand new tan 99. Does that mean the AR-50 is overpriced? My 99 was also sighted in since I ordered it with the scope and rings. That saved me $40+. |
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Posted: 11/10/2014 11:08:25 AM EDT
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Just wondering about these two models of 50cal rifles. 82A1 is about 3k cheaper but it is older design. Is the M107A1 worth the extra price tag? Thanks. If your mind is set on those 2, get the 82A1 and save the extra money. You are still getting the same rifle with just a few frills left off. Both are ridiculously overpriced. Look at the Serbu 50. It has a fixed barrel, gas operated and much better accuracy. Yes, I've worked at both places and really like the Serbu semi auto 50. |
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Posted: 11/12/2014 3:10:09 AM EDT
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It may be overpriced, but it is a piece of history. To me it has been worth every penny. Accuracy is decent for my needs and reliability is tested and proven.
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Posted: 11/12/2014 8:16:50 PM EDT
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If your mind is set on those 2, get the 82A1 and save the extra money. You are still getting the same rifle with just a few frills left off. Both are ridiculously overpriced. Look at the Serbu 50. It has a fixed barrel, gas operated and much better accuracy. Yes, I've worked at both places and really like the Serbu semi auto 50. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just wondering about these two models of 50cal rifles. 82A1 is about 3k cheaper but it is older design. Is the M107A1 worth the extra price tag? Thanks. If your mind is set on those 2, get the 82A1 and save the extra money. You are still getting the same rifle with just a few frills left off. Both are ridiculously overpriced. Look at the Serbu 50. It has a fixed barrel, gas operated and much better accuracy. Yes, I've worked at both places and really like the Serbu semi auto 50. Serbu is more finicky with ammo though right? |
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Posted: 11/13/2014 1:38:14 AM EDT
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Not that I experienced.
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Posted: 11/14/2014 8:46:34 PM EDT
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I'd get the 82A1. I have seen some for $6750 nib recently which is an awesome price compared to the 107a1. There are more accurate rifles out there, but most people who have them aren't shooting in 1000 yd competitions.
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Posted: 11/14/2014 10:21:45 PM EDT
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I'd get the 82A1. I have seen some for $6750 nib recently which is an awesome price compared to the 107a1. There are more accurate rifles out there, but most people who have them aren't shooting in 1000 yd competitions. Something tells me that there's more than the weight difference and ability to suppress. I get 1.5-2" groups out of my M107A1 with M33 ball. I can only get about 2.5" groups with the same ammo on my old man's M82. Nothing prettier than the 107a1 in FDE. |
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Posted: 11/15/2014 6:54:02 PM EDT
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Something tells me that there's more than the weight difference and ability to suppress. I get 1.5-2" groups out of my M107A1 with M33 ball. I can only get about 2.5" groups with the same ammo on my old man's M82. Nothing prettier than the 107a1 in FDE. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'd get the 82A1. I have seen some for $6750 nib recently which is an awesome price compared to the 107a1. There are more accurate rifles out there, but most people who have them aren't shooting in 1000 yd competitions. Something tells me that there's more than the weight difference and ability to suppress. I get 1.5-2" groups out of my M107A1 with M33 ball. I can only get about 2.5" groups with the same ammo on my old man's M82. Nothing prettier than the 107a1 in FDE. Interesting, first heard of an accuracy difference. Doesn't surprise me being new design and all. Currently have the 82 and really like it. It is an very reliable and made of a steel and heavy. The 107 is lighter and they (Barrett) claim is stronger. With that being said if I did it all over again would go with the 107 Thermal cheek guard on the 107 would be wonderful, the 82 will burn your cheek after being in the sun a while. It also cold in the winter putting your cheek on a big piece of steel for a few mins |
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Posted: 11/15/2014 8:19:40 PM EDT
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I never heard of an accuracy difference either, but the 107A1 gets a chromed lined barrel. The 82 does not, from what I have read.
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Posted: 11/15/2014 8:33:48 PM EDT
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107 has spiked pod feet
different extractor(stronger to throw the spent shell further) spring |
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Posted: 11/15/2014 11:32:23 PM EDT
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I never heard of an accuracy difference either, but the 107A1 gas a chromed lined barrel. The 82 does not, from what I have read. The 82 CQ 20" has the chromed barrel but the 29" just gets the chamber chromed. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 4:33:58 PM EDT
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For that kind of price I would just get the 82. Depending of the price difference I would use the difference to buy a nice optic and other needed accessories.
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Posted: 12/1/2014 9:06:45 PM EDT
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Just wondering about these two models of 50cal rifles. 82A1 is about 3k cheaper but it is older design. Is the M107A1 worth the extra price tag? Thanks. If your mind is set on those 2, get the 82A1 and save the extra money. You are still getting the same rifle with just a few frills left off. Both are ridiculously overpriced. Look at the Serbu 50. It has a fixed barrel, gas operated and much better accuracy. Yes, I've worked at both places and really like the Serbu semi auto 50. Serbu is more finicky with ammo though right? My brother has Serbu, I have Barretts. We went shooting last month, Serbu jammed 2 times out of 10. Barrett was 100% reliable. |
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Posted: 12/5/2014 7:53:42 PM EDT
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I have the M82.
Only reason I could personally justify going with the 107 over the 82 is if you want to suppress it. Otherwise the small improvements are not really worth the extra coin to me. That said they are both expensive guns for folks with generally deeper pockets so the couple extra grand for the newest version/toy on the block is probably worth it to a lot of folks to have the latest and greatest. My Barrett has been 100% reliable. over the years. I don't think I have ever had a failure to feed or extract in the years I have owned it shooting new American made lake city or barrett mfg ammo. (personally I have never shot anything but those two brands) That said I have seen both Barretts and Serbu's have issues. Granted the one Barrett I have seen with reliability problems the guy was using his own reloads that appeared to be incorrectly sized as he would have to jam the cartridge in and yank on the handle to get it out. (Made a bit nervous with a guy next to me yanking back and forth on the changing handle like that...seemed like a recipe for something bad to happen) The Serbu just seemed to never be able to reliably spit out the spent empty brass. |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 7:08:15 PM EDT
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I have the M82. Only reason I could personally justify going with the 107 over the 82 is if you want to suppress it. Otherwise the small improvements are not really worth the extra coin to me. That said they are both expensive guns for folks with generally deeper pockets so the couple extra grand for the newest version/toy on the block is probably worth it to a lot of folks to have the latest and greatest. My Barrett has been 100% reliable. over the years. I don't think I have ever had a failure to feed or extract in the years I have owned it shooting new American made lake city or barrett mfg ammo. (personally I have never shot anything but those two brands) That said I have seen both Barretts and Serbu's have issues. Granted the one Barrett I have seen with reliability problems the guy was using his own reloads that appeared to be incorrectly sized as he would have to jam the cartridge in and yank on the handle to get it out. (Made a bit nervous with a guy next to me yanking back and forth on the changing handle like that...seemed like a recipe for something bad to happen) The Serbu just seemed to never be able to reliably spit out the spent empty brass. Couple that with the numerous QC issues that accompany a serbu and the Barrett is a no brainer. |
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Posted: 1/1/2015 8:02:27 AM EDT
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Either is a dream rifle for me... If I don't buy any guns for a year, I could use the money saved on the older Barrett! But wait... Have there been others that have seen increased accuracy with the new model? What could they have done to improve that? I thought they just added a different muzzle brake and manufacture parts of the gun out of titanium or aluminum instead of steel.
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Posted: 1/1/2015 11:38:28 AM EDT
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Either is a dream rifle for me... If I don't buy any guns for a year, I could use the money saved on the older Barrett! But wait... Have there been others that have seen increased accuracy with the new model? What could they have done to improve that? I thought they just added a different muzzle brake and manufacture parts of the gun out of titanium or aluminum instead of steel. From what I've read, suppressors are a no go on the 82. Maybe it has something to do with design changes in the action. |
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Posted: 1/1/2015 1:36:44 PM EDT
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From what I've read, suppressors are a no go on the 82. Maybe it has something to do with design changes in the action. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Either is a dream rifle for me... If I don't buy any guns for a year, I could use the money saved on the older Barrett! But wait... Have there been others that have seen increased accuracy with the new model? What could they have done to improve that? I thought they just added a different muzzle brake and manufacture parts of the gun out of titanium or aluminum instead of steel. From what I've read, suppressors are a no go on the 82. Maybe it has something to do with design changes in the action. They make a factory suppressor now but you were correct on the older guns. I would like to shoot one and see how it is sound and recoil wise. |
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Posted: 1/1/2015 11:43:26 PM EDT
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Has our own military even adopted the new M107A1 and suppressor yet?
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Posted: 1/6/2015 7:08:33 PM EDT
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Has our own military even adopted the new M107A1 and suppressor yet? Good question, anyone know the answer? |
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Posted: 1/8/2015 4:44:47 PM EDT
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Has our own military even adopted the new M107A1 and suppressor yet? Good question, anyone know the answer? Yes they have different variants in service. OP I would go for the 107 just for the incase you want the suppressor later on. |
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Posted: 1/11/2015 8:13:01 AM EDT
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Yes they have different variants in service. OP I would go for the 107 just for the incase you want the suppressor later on. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Has our own military even adopted the new M107A1 and suppressor yet? Good question, anyone know the answer? Yes they have different variants in service. OP I would go for the 107 just for the incase you want the suppressor later on. Thanks, and, I agree with his advice OP |
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Posted: 1/11/2015 7:58:26 PM EDT
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The Army bought a few 107a1's for testing as the 107 contract is fulfilled. The only real difference is the aluminum upper. We played with that long ago when I was there. It never really went anywhere. Looks like they decided to rehash it as "new".
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Posted: 1/12/2015 12:09:43 AM EDT
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The Army bought a few 107a1's for testing as the 107 contract is fulfilled. The only real difference is the aluminum upper. We played with that long ago when I was there. It never really went anywhere. Looks like they decided to rehash it as "new". Any durability issues back then? |
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Posted: 1/12/2015 12:16:02 AM EDT
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Did you guys notice any differences besides the 5lb weight difference? Like for accuracy?
Doubt I'll be able to find a M107A1 and M82 comparison video on youtube lol. I've always wanted a Barrett... and I'm slowly creeping close with my savings. Hoping to get one within another 10-12 months now so I'm trying to keep an eye on these M82 vs M107A1 topics. Hell... I need to decide between 20" or 29" barrel! |
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Posted: 1/12/2015 4:42:58 AM EDT
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The Army bought a few 107a1's for testing as the 107 contract is fulfilled. The only real difference is the aluminum upper. We played with that long ago when I was there. It never really went anywhere. Looks like they decided to rehash it as "new". Any durability issues back then? No. The upper was actually straighter because there was no welding done to it to wrap it, then straightening needed after stress relieving the welds of the upper an lower. The lower still needed to be straightened though before machining. I usually got stuck on that shitty job at the straightening jig after they came back from stress relief. |
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Posted: 1/12/2015 4:46:56 AM EDT
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Did you guys notice any differences besides the 5lb weight difference? Like for accuracy? Doubt I'll be able to find a M107A1 and M82 comparison video on youtube lol. I've always wanted a Barrett... and I'm slowly creeping close with my savings. Hoping to get one within another 10-12 months now so I'm trying to keep an eye on these M82 vs M107A1 topics. Hell... I need to decide between 20" or 29" barrel! There wasn't much accuracy difference between the 2. It had to do between the barrel to upper fitting. Some guys took the easy route and hoped a barrel slid right in. I always picked a barrel that needed lapping in for a tighter fit so it would be a bit more accurate. They have a machine that laps them in now. Takes away the experience of the human touch to say "almost there.......done" |
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Posted: 1/17/2015 12:04:48 PM EDT
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Get an 82A1. I shot a 12-1/8” group with my 82A1 and handloaded IMI M33 Ball at 1,000 yards. Don Cook and Tony White at Barrett range selected my 82A1 and I have done a little trigger work.
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Posted: 1/17/2015 12:11:10 PM EDT
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Get an 82A1. I shot a 12-1/8” group with my 82A1 and handloaded IMI M33 Ball at 1,000 yards. Don Cook and Tony White at Barrett range selected my 82A1 and I have done a little trigger work. http://www.fototime.com/B9078F25F6A760F/large.jpg http://www.fototime.com/F214D44FC7BEB57/large.jpg Good shooting for an 82A1. Your welcome. 
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Posted: 1/17/2015 4:09:16 PM EDT
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240grains of H50 powder with an M33 projectile is a stout load!
Good shooting! 
TZZ brass is some of it he best you can get. Every piece I've got (bought a bunch of virgin back in the day) is perfect, beautiful brass. |
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Posted: 1/17/2015 6:10:15 PM EDT
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Beautiful gun and shooting!
What do you mean by range selected though? They hand selected a barrett out for you?? |
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Posted: 1/17/2015 9:30:08 PM EDT
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What do you mean by range selected though? They hand selected a barrett out for you?? I did it a few times for customers. Got me in trouble a few times too. I didn't care. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 8:56:46 PM EDT
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Beautiful gun and shooting! What do you mean by range selected though? They hand selected a barrett out for you?? Thanks. I had a 82A1 that had major problems and they decided to give me a new gun and Tony made sure I got a good shooter. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 8:57:24 PM EDT
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What do you mean by range selected though? They hand selected a barrett out for you?? I did it a few times for customers. Got me in trouble a few times too. I didn't care. Tony, Thanks so much for picking a good shooter for me. I have not fired the 82A1 since 2010 and will most likely sell it when I have time. My retinologist found a hole and a tear in my left eye back in 2011 and I have been hesitant to shoot it. I am getting up there in years and it is not uncommon for the vitreous to tear the retina as it liquefies. I don’t think shooting the 82A1 caused it, but it might not be smart to shoot it now. I did have a M3 tripod and soft mount for the 82A1, but I sold the tripod and all my 50 BMG ammo in crates to a NFA dealer this past weekend. A Barrette shooter in Texas bought the soft mount. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 9:22:53 PM EDT
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240grains of H50 powder with an M33 projectile is a stout load!
Good shooting!
TZZ brass is some of it he best you can get. Every piece I've got (bought a bunch of virgin back in the day) is perfect, beautiful brass. Thanks. 240 gr is the max loading for 645 gr ball bullets. I started with 230 gr and the 645 gr ball was going subsonic and key holing the target at 1,000 yards. The same thing happened at 233 gr and 235 gr. With the 238gr load the bullets stayed supersonic and the first round hit about 10 o’clock at the edge of the outer black ring. My friend gave me the windage and elevation corrections and I was able to put the third shot in the x-ring. I am only using 240 gr with the 645 gr IMI Ball and Lehigh Solid Ball. I did not find the 645 gr IMI Ball unpleasant to shoot at 240 gr and there were no excessive pressure signs. Dave from Lehigh recommended 240 gr for his 645 gr Solid Ball and I suspect this is to keep them stable at 1,000 yards. The BC for Ball is not great. |
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Posted: 1/20/2015 1:23:46 PM EDT
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Tony, Thanks so much for picking a good shooter for me. I have not fired the 82A1 since 2010 and will most likely sell it when I have time. My retinologist found a hole and a tear in my left eye back in 2011 and I have been hesitant to shoot it. I am getting up there in years and it is not uncommon for the vitreous to tear the retina as it liquefies. I don’t think shooting the 82A1 caused it, but it might not be smart to shoot it now. I did have a M3 tripod and soft mount for the 82A1, but I sold the tripod and all my 50 BMG ammo in crates to a NFA dealer this past weekend. A Barrette shooter in Texas bought the soft mount. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What do you mean by range selected though? They hand selected a barrett out for you?? I did it a few times for customers. Got me in trouble a few times too. I didn't care. Tony, Thanks so much for picking a good shooter for me. I have not fired the 82A1 since 2010 and will most likely sell it when I have time. My retinologist found a hole and a tear in my left eye back in 2011 and I have been hesitant to shoot it. I am getting up there in years and it is not uncommon for the vitreous to tear the retina as it liquefies. I don’t think shooting the 82A1 caused it, but it might not be smart to shoot it now. I did have a M3 tripod and soft mount for the 82A1, but I sold the tripod and all my 50 BMG ammo in crates to a NFA dealer this past weekend. A Barrette shooter in Texas bought the soft mount. Glad you liked you it. Sorry to hear about your eye problems. With your furnished target, you should have no problem getting your money back on it. |
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